Judy, I am interested in the Chism and Reid families of Muhlenburg. My gggrandfather was a Jacob Reid who married Mary Elizabeth Doss. Her daughter Cordelia Reid ( my ggrandmother) married a Wade Chism son of Napoleon and Hannah Pointer Chism. Jackie

Hi Judy, I saw the report you sent to Pat on the Yontzs and the mention of the marriage of two Yontz/Yonts/Younts daughters to my Helsley descendants. Would there be any further mention of the Helsleys in the Christian Co. history? I have no Christian Co. contacts but I know there are a number of Heltsley/Helsley people there. How can I get a copy of that Christian County history? The mention of Lawrence Younts having been born in the Netherlands could be important for us if : -- The Helsleys traveled with the Yontses from Rowan County, N.C. It looks like they may have. -- The Helsleys also came from the Netherlands. -- It could help better explain the origin of our name: German, Swiss, Dutch, etc.??? As you may know the closest absolute info. we have traces the Helsleys back to 1799 in Rowan Co., N.C. Whatever help you or anyone else can be will be appreciated or "much obliged" as my father, a native Muhlenberger, used to say. Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/native Muhlenberger

From:   Jan, unicorn@sun-spot.com And To This Land They Came (from the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series) For all of us whose lineage traces back long in this country, there are not one, but many stories of the reasons for the coming of our ancestors. Behind those stories are more than a few times pain, for pain it was that drove our ancestors more often than not from the places that were all they had known and all those who came before them had known. The stories are not the same. For some it was religion, for others escape from a debtor's prison, or a chance to have what a younger son could not have…for some it was as simple as an empty stomach. But almost all the stories have two common denominators: Pain brought them, and hope beckoned them. If there is a synonym for America…let it be "hope". Here is the story I think might have been told by one of those ancestors, if she could but speak… ****************************************************************************** *********************************** Yes, a stor, I will tell you the story of how it is your gram came to be in this country, and why it is you call yourself an American… Da swore it came from the very pits of hell, and perhaps he was right. In wafts of sickening hellish odor it came, creeping its way in stealthy strides from one field to the next, the black evil splotches claiming the potatoes and turning them to a sickening gooey mush that turned our hearts to stones in the pits of our stomach. The potatoes that were all that stood between ourselves and the gnawing hunger. And without the potatoes, without a livelihood, how then were we to pay the English lord for rent on the land that ought by rights to have been our own? The hovels we called homes turned to piles of straw and wood and stone before our eyes and naught for it but the open road and no destination. The open road it was, or debtor's prison, as we were driven away from all we had and cast upon a world that opened not its arms, for none there were to open. Not in the world that was ours. Around us, the hunger made desperate people of our neighbors, until it made them kinder or it made them strangers turning their backs upon those they called neighbors and family and friends. For how can one offer what one does not have to put in one's own belly? And to survive a heart must turn to a stone, and a back must turn. Times it was I thought the blight had claimed more than potatoes, and touched our hearts with its evil black splotches as will. And in all cases it made us leaner…or left us in unmarked graves beneath the sod., unmourned and no time for the things we had always done to tell our own goodbye. For myself, the day I saw Gram die, twas relief I felt, yes and when Da was gone as well. They had gone where hunger was not. And what was there to eat? The animals we had called pets? The seaweed? The grass? When hunger gnawed bitter, times there were we boiled water to pretend that it was soup. And the wind whistled a devilish tune promising the leaness of these times nothing compared to the winter that would come. And the times made gaunt skeletons of living people, and carved lines in young men's faces. Dancing Irish eyes dulled and glazed some more until they were little more than vacant windows in a condemned house. For there was naught to see but worse to come wherever one looked. When there is naught to find but a dark tunnel, no hope, no way around or out, a heart turns to a cold stone that lies in the pit of an empty belly, a head goes numb, there is not energy to summon a tear, nor to scream the cry that lies hovering on a lip. So it was when one tiny glimmer of light flickered we dared, in a secret place inside, to dream a tiny dream… America…the dream on many a lip, but where the coins to pay the passage? And yet if one could find a way…food there was, a way of growing one's own, freedom from the lord that waited on blights and troubles to take what little livelihood we had. America…. a light when the fire of the hearth had been smothered. It was a hope…the only hope…and when we found a way, it mattered not how long one must work on the other side to repay… America…where hunger did not live. And so it was I came. For for all the pain that still was before me on a ship no better than the land I came from…for all the pain that awaited on another side where my people numbered so thick I wondered were there any left in Ireland, I am glad. Still twas a place to be carved in a city filled with too many and all too often they not wanted, still were not streets paved with gold. Still there was the wondering over those left behind, and the pain of knowing one could only hope to bring loved ones too, in time…and perhaps that would never be. We dare not let our hearts thaw from stone to human ones just yet. Still there were battles to fight and naught but those left with a spirit to do so would find the hope they came sailing for. But hope there was, and I see my grandchildren not knowing what it is to be hungry and more than a few with a spot to call their own.   Yes, twas hope brought me here, and I am yet left with it. Who knows, in this land that stretches so wide and so far, what may yet be? There it is, a story, do what you will with this story. But be glad it is I came. Just a thought, jan Copyright ©2000JanPhilpot ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello Betty, to post a message all you need to do is compose what ever it is that you are wanting to post and e-mail it to KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com and that is about it in a nutshell Timothy

Jean- That would be me! What book is it? Donna Crockett Mowery You wrote: I have a book that deals with the CROCKETT family who came from Ireland, moved to Pennsylvania, and lived in Virginia. They are my ancestors too. Anybody interested? Jean jrcamas@liii.com

Don- The marriage record does sound right for Ann Pannell. Her mother gave deposition at daughter's (Mary) divorce in 1882 saying she lived in Central City. I think she must have been living there with another child and family then because James had died. He wasn't listed in census after 1860. Thank you. Donna

1850 census: #183 James Gossett, 31 Frances, 7 John, 5 Nancy, 2 Frances Gish, 40, KY Nancy J. Gish, 10 Marriages: Benjamin Coffman Jr. to Elizabeth Gossett, 4 Sep 1828 In 1843 William Scott, son of Nathan Scott, was bound to John Gossett to learn the art and trade of wagonmaker until 21, then to be given a set of tools. Wedding ceremony performed by W. Henderson: Nancy Wilkins to James Arnett, 1815 Sarah Gish to David Plain, 30 Mar 1817 Wedding ceremy performed by Micajah Wells: Lemuel Boggess to Rachel Oates, 11 Oct 1821 Joseph Grace to Patsey Wells, 24 Feb 1820 List of older persons in 1850 census: Micajah Wells and Ann Wells, 78-82, NC Men who had tobacco in warehouse 28 Sep 1810: Micajah Wells, Francis Wells Prof. Wayland Alexander opened a school in Sacramento in 1858 and soon it was well patronized. He was born 26 Jun 1839, near Louisville, the son of Joseph W. Alexander of King and Queen Co., VA. His mother was Caroline E. (Wells) Alexander, native of Jefferson Co., KY. She was the daughter of Gen. Y. P. Wells who distinguished himself in the early Indian wars of Ky. Jul 1812 Court Records: Francis Wills/Wells Sr. died and his estate and slaves were to be appraised.

To Rick Griffith: Not sure these actually are your folks, but they are the closest in the articles. List of older persons in 1850 census: Richard and Mary Wall, 62-63, VA Mary Wilcox, daughter of George and Tabitha (Hughes) Wilcox, married William C. Adkins in Dec 1866

To Pat: Older persons mentioned in 1850 census: Rudolph Yonts, 62, born NC Philip and Mary Yonts, 69-64, born NC Merchant clerks in 1870 census: J. D. Yonts, 28 A whole column regarding the Yonts family: "Yonts Families in County in the 1850 Census", by Edward M. Manley The Yonts of Muhlenberg came from North Carolina. Rothers mentions five members of the Yonts family settled near Paradise about 1812. They were Rudolph, Phillip, Lawrence, Elizabeth and Susannah. Elizabeth married William Heltsley and her sister, Susannah, married Michael Heltsley in 1825. The Christian County history states that Lawrence Yonts was born in the Netherlands and settled first in North Carolina in colonial days. This history mentions Lawrence, three brothers and two sisters traveling the Boone Trail in covered wagons, down through Shelbyville, Louisville and on to Muhlenberg. When the 1850 census was taken, brothers Phillip and Rudolph were censused in Muhlenberg. Phillip was 69 and his wife, Mary, 64, both born in NC. They were censused alone. Rudolph Yonts was 62, and his wife's name appears some such name as Sabra, and one son, Abington, 40 , listed at home with the. One Mary Appling, 78, born in MD also lived with them. Seven other Yonts families were censused in 1850, during September. Family 353--William Yonts, 25; wife, Julia; and two children, Robert W. and Joseph. Family 365--Jonathon Yonts, 32; wife, Abagail. The three children were Lucretia, Thomas L. S., and Leonard S. Family 376--Lauvina Yonts, 35; Susan, 36, both born in NC; and with them Catherine, 27, and Phillip, 17, both KY born. Family 375--Henry Yonts, 30; wife, Elizabeth; a son Alfred J. Family 378--John Yonts, 42, born in NC; wife Lucinda, born in KY. their five children were namely, James V., Mary E., Martha F., John M., and Catherine. With them lived the widowed mother, Catherine Yonts, 62, born in NC. Family 382--J. W. Yonts, 31, born in NC; wife, Nancy, born in KY. The two children were Archibald C., and Eliza F. Family 401--Phillip Yonts, Jr., 39, born in NC; wife, F. A., 28, born in KY. Their first daughter was listed as S. A. (perhaps Sallie Ann), and the other children were Mary K., Joseph D., Edward L., Laura F., and a name like Adriana. Oct 1810 court records: Lawrence Yonce listed his taxation

Found an "Eaves" that might actually be an "Eades": Nov. 1810 county court records: John S. Eaves, jailer, was paid $7.34 for keeping the Courthouse for a year.

To Betty: There are no Stuarts or Snodgrasses. List of older persons in the 1850 census: Samuel and Nancy Eades Gaines (63-40) [this looks like it may be a misprint] William and Sussanah Eaves (62-62, born VA) Barnett and Elizabeth Eads, 62-58 Lawyers in 1870 census: E. W. Eaves, 21 Dry goods merchants in 1870 census: G. B. Eades, 40, wife Sophia J., and five children Families in Greenville, 1870, included J. R. Eades Unusual names in 1860 census: Elenthera Eads, daughter of Robert Eads

Warrick Co., IN Will of Phillip Miller dated 16 Oct 1834 In the name of God Amen. I, Phillip Henry Miller of Campbell Township, Warrick Co., and State of IN, being porly in helth but of a sound mind and memory, thanks be to the all mighty God for His mercies, do make and declare this to be my last will and testament revoking all other wills that may have bin by me made at any time previous to this date. Item. I bequeath my soul to God who gave it and my body to the dust in the hope of joyful resurrection at the last day. Item. My will and desire is that all my personal property except such as is hereafter otherwise bequeathed be sold at publick auction amediately after my decease and the proceeds therof be applyed to the payment of all my just debts, funeral expences and after these expences are duly paid the balance of any together with the amount of all notes and book accounts due me be equally divided between my children, viz: John Miller, Benjamin H. Miller, Issac C. Miller, Hiram Miller and William M. Miller each to receive his part at the age of 21 years. Item. I give and bequeath to my beloved wife, Anna Miller, one feather bed, bedstead, and the necessary bedding to be taking at her own choise from the beds in my possession, also I bequeath to her one dining table, six chairs, one dinner pot, one oven, one skillet and a teakettle, one set of plates, one set Tcups and saucers, one set of knives and forks, half of the erthen bowls and half of the glassware now in my possession, one bit spinning wheel and two water pails and one trunk, also two milch cows to be chosen by her, also I bequeath her my sorrell mare by the name of Philles provided that my said wife give to Sally Sketo the first colt the mare shall have after my decease. Item. I give and bequeath to my son Isaac C. Miller a sorrell filly with a blaze face and glass eyes. Item. I give and bequeath to my son Banjamin H. Miller my rifle gun. Item. My will and desire is that the farm on which I now live together with the water grist mill be rented out and the rent applyed to the support and education of my three youngest children, namely, Isaac, Hiram and William H. Miller, and to support of my wife Anna Miller and to kepp the said farm and mill in repair until my son Isaac shall attain the age of 21 years at that if the _____________ mill and land to be sold and the proceeds thereof be equally divided between the said named Isaac, Hiram, and William H. Miller my wife however reserving to herself her right of dowry on said premises during her naturil life and at her desease to revert to the said Isaac, Hiram and William H. Miller but should either die before that time the whole to desend to the survivors and should there be any overplus remaining out of the rent it should be put on annuel interst for the benefit of the children. Item. I give and bequeath to my two sons Benjamin H. and Isaac C. Miller my farm on the west side of Big Pidgeon Creek it being the west half of the southwest quarter of Section No. 10 Township 5 South of range No. 9 west containin 80 acres the said farm to be rented untill my said son Benjamin shall attain the age of 18 years and the proceeds of the rent to be put on interst anuley for the equal benefit of my two sons namely to said Benjamin H. and Isaac C. Miller and when my said son Isaac shall attain the age of 18 years the said land to be equally divided between the said Benjamin and Isaac in any way they may agree on. Item. I give and bequeath to my son John Miller all my land lying and situated in Muhlenberg County, in the State of Kentucky with all singular appurtenances thereto belonging containing 200 acres more or less to be taken possession of by said son John immediately after my desease. Item. I hereby authorize, nominate and appoint William Luce and John G. Jukes executers and administrators of this my last will and testament. In witness wherof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this 16 day of October in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and thirty -four. Signed and sealed by the testatoor: Phillip Henry (X) Miller [his mark] in the presents of us witnesses: Larkin Bristow and John G. Jukes State of Indiana, Warrick County: Be it remembered that on this 8th day of November, 1834, the within will was proven before me by the subscribing witnesses thereunto. In testimony I have set my hand this 8th day of November, 1834. J. A. Graham [this will was also sent to the Warrick IN GenWeb administrator]

Donna, I have Anna A. Pannell, age 20, marrying John H. Riley, April 4, 1878. Anna' s age is right. This is from marriage book 11, pagw 399. John Riley was 28 years old, born in England, and a conductor on the railroad. The wedding was conducted that the wedding was conducted at the home of the bride's mother. This last implies that her father was dead by 1878. Hope this was a help. We found no reference to Joseph's marriage. Based on his birth in 1849, he may have served in the Civil War for one side or the other. Don Summers ----- Original Message ----- From: <DCMowery@aol.com> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] CROCKETT/PANNELL/ROSS/YONTS/CAPPS > This is some of the info I have on Pannells in Muhlenberg Co.: > > James and Eliza Crockett Pannell were listed in the 1860 Muhlenberg Co. > census living with my g.g.g.grandfather, William Crockett. I'd love to have > any information on William as well. > > Children of James and Eliza: > > Mary E. b. 1850 > Joseph C. b. 1849 > Martha C b. 1852 m. Jos. Ross > Ann E. b. 1858 > > Mary E. m. 1) Archibald Yonts, son of John Yonts and Nancy McConnell in 1867 > in Muhlenberg Co. and 2) Alanson (A.M.) Capps, son of Achilles Capps and > Margaret Dickerson. She used the name Molly E. Yonts on the marriage bond to > A.M. Capps. > > The Pannell family was in the funeral business in Greenville, KY. Before > moving to Muhlenberg Co., James and Eliza were listed in the Maury Co., TN > census of 1850. > > I don't have any information on Joseph C. or Ann E. Pannell. Does anyone know > who they married? > > Donna > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Have you used the Federal Census 1850 and 1860? -----Original Message----- From: DCMowery@aol.com [mailto:DCMowery@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 4:49 PM To: KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYMUHLEN] William Winters Does anyone on the list know anything about a William Winters in Muhlenberg Co. around 1859? Donna ============================== Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

For Bob Adams: No Bratchers or Ramseys Lizzie, daughter of Luculius M. Kirkpatrick, married a Mahon. Persons claiming vacant land, Nov-Dec 1803: Rolly Day, 150 acres Persons claiming vacant land, Jan-Feb 1804 Rolly Day, 150 acres

Oops, I missed one. Men exempt in the future for county levies included George Miller (1800)

To Linda Clements: Leonidas Miller married Virginia Vaught in Butler Co., 1866 1850 Census, District #1: #318 Alfred Miller, 39, TN Azaline, 38, KY Rebecca,15 Margaret, 12 Sarah J., 10 Isaac, 7 James, 6 Susan, 4 Elisha, 3/12 #333 Simon Miller, 68, TN Ann, 96, PA #357 Isaac Miller, 39, TN Elizabeth, 37, VA Alfred J., 19 Nancy, 17 Simon, 16 Jacob, 12 James, 9 Martha, 5 William, 4 Samuel, 1 William Hendrix, 23, KY David W. Eaves, who married Anna C. Weir, second daughter of Edward R. Weir and wife, Harriet Rumsey Miller, had the following children: Eliot, Lucian, Lucille, Harriet, Ruth and Belle Eaves. Levi Arendell had three wives.....Lucinda Miller (1st wife) married 13 Aug 1878 Mary Frances Jenkins (daughter of Joel) married Tompy Miller [no date given] Finis Gaines married Emma Miller [no dates given] Persons claiming vacant land, 23 Mar 1801: George Miller, 200 acres on Lick Creek Frederick Miller, 400 acres on Pond Creek The entire text of Phillip Miller's will (Warrick Co., IN, 1834) is contained in one LONG article. If you are interested in it, contact me at jpjones1@airmail.net

Does anyone on the list know anything about a William Winters in Muhlenberg Co. around 1859? Donna

This is some of the info I have on Pannells in Muhlenberg Co.: James and Eliza Crockett Pannell were listed in the 1860 Muhlenberg Co. census living with my g.g.g.grandfather, William Crockett. I'd love to have any information on William as well. Children of James and Eliza: Mary E. b. 1850 Joseph C. b. 1849 Martha C b. 1852 m. Jos. Ross Ann E. b. 1858 Mary E. m. 1) Archibald Yonts, son of John Yonts and Nancy McConnell in 1867 in Muhlenberg Co. and 2) Alanson (A.M.) Capps, son of Achilles Capps and Margaret Dickerson. She used the name Molly E. Yonts on the marriage bond to A.M. Capps. The Pannell family was in the funeral business in Greenville, KY. Before moving to Muhlenberg Co., James and Eliza were listed in the Maury Co., TN census of 1850. I don't have any information on Joseph C. or Ann E. Pannell. Does anyone know who they married? Donna

I have a book that deals with the CROCKETT family who came from Ireland, moved to Pennsylvania, and lived in Virginia. They are my ancestors too. Anybody interested? Jean jrcamas@liii.com At 07:48 PM 01/18/2001 EST, DCMowery@aol.com wrote: >This is some of the info I have on Pannells in Muhlenberg Co.: > >James and Eliza Crockett Pannell were listed in the 1860 Muhlenberg Co. >census living with my g.g.g.grandfather, William Crockett. I'd love to have >any information on William as well. > >Children of James and Eliza: > >Mary E. b. 1850 >Joseph C. b. 1849 >Martha C b. 1852 m. Jos. Ross >Ann E. b. 1858 > >Mary E. m. 1) Archibald Yonts, son of John Yonts and Nancy McConnell in 1867 >in Muhlenberg Co. and 2) Alanson (A.M.) Capps, son of Achilles Capps and >Margaret Dickerson. She used the name Molly E. Yonts on the marriage bond to >A.M. Capps. > >The Pannell family was in the funeral business in Greenville, KY. Before >moving to Muhlenberg Co., James and Eliza were listed in the Maury Co., TN >census of 1850. > >I don't have any information on Joseph C. or Ann E. Pannell. Does anyone know >who they married? > >Donna > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >