My families are: Metheny, Watkins, Fortney, Eaves, Josey, Bennett, Schimmel. All help GREATLY appreciated. Amie

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Thank you for the info on Baxter Alma

Alma, I checked back through the Census's. I could not find a single Baxter that came from anywhere but Muhlenburg, Ky. All the way back into the 1830 Census. It all seems to have started with John Baxter. This is the earliest property purchase. It shows 4 separate purchases. I would order this record to see if it has any of the information about where they came from. Sorry I couldn't be of much help. Best wishes, Lettie Kentucky Land Grants Record Grantee: Baxter, John Acres: 18 Book: 8 Survey Date: 2-26-1841 County: Muhlenberg WaterCourse: Cypress Reference: THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1 Part 2 CHAPTER X. GRANTS IN THE COUNTY COURT ORDERS (1836-1924) THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY page 1004 More Info: Grantee: Baxter, John Acres: 18 Book: 8 Page: 306 Date Survey: 2-26-1841 County: Muhlenberg Watercourse: Cypress ----- Original Message ----- From: <MTravis929@aol.com> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:14 PM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Re: Baxter > Hello,Does anyone know where the Baxter's in Muhlenberg were from ? > Parents,siblings etc ? > Thank you > Alma > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hello,Does anyone know where the Baxter's in Muhlenberg were from ? Parents,siblings etc ? Thank you Alma

Most likely your line of thought is in the right direction. The probable cause was, free land. Most land grants were for a small number of acre's. However: people like Henry Rhoades and others who had fought in the Revolutionary War that were promoted to Officers from Lt. to General were granted several hundred acres of land, depending on their rank. Henry was a Capt. and his grant is said to have been about 1600 acres. At that time Muhlenberg County had not yet been established What is your comment on this subject?

I have a question: what was the attaction in the very early days to Muhlenberg Co??? Why did they come? I know that some had Rev War land grants but was there anything else that brought them all here.........to this tiny neck in the woods along the Green River? Just curious Cheryl Cessna ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank > in > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their > goods > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I > visited > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in > anything > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > Thank you > DeAnna > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Charlotte, Yes .. that is my John Randolph, son of John and Anne. My theory on Elizabeth Bland? is that if she is actually a Bland, she is a niece of John Bland of Nelson Co. He left a bequest to niece Nancy, an orphan of his brother. He does not name the brother. Nancy and Elizabeth could be sisters, both being nieces of John. He wouldn't have left anything to Elizabeth because she was already married to a fairly wealthy man. What is so confusing is that the Turkey Island Randolphs also married Blands, they just seem to fit together in some way. Who knows? I read somewhere that a William Randolph, b. 1670 in England, was the father of John Randolph Sr., and was brought here by William of Turkey Island. It implied that they were related in some way. Of course I have no proof that any of these theories have any validity. Thanks for the info. OH .. let me make one correction in your info below. Margaret Randolph, b. Oct. 20, 1784 m. James Nicholls (not Elizabeth) ... Prudence, who married Jesse Reno was Elizabeth Prudence. Nice to meet another Prince William Randolph Cousin ! DeAnna ----- Original Message ----- From: "H Johnson" <hjohnson80@comcast.net> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > DeAnna, > > Are you researching John Randolph, the son of John Randolph, who died in > 1789, Prince William Co. Virginia, and Ann Osborne? > > Their son, John Randolph, was born 1750-52, Prince William Co. Va. and died > Dec. 26, 1822, East Baton Rouge Parish, La. He married Elizabeth > .......(Family tradition says she was Elizabeth Bland, who may be related to > John Bland and Margaret Osborne, sister of Ann Osborne, who married John > Randolph, d. 1789. She is not named in John Bland's will, though, and the > reason for the question. There is no close relationship with this John > Bland/Margaret Osborne and Frances Bland, daughter of Theodorick Bland, who > married John Randolph, the son of Richard Randolph/Jane Bolling, and > grandson of William Randolph/Mary Isham. > > John Bland/Margaret Osborne migrated from Prince William Co. Virginia to > Nelson County, Ky. Their daughter Mary (Molly) Bland married Thomas Osborne > Randolph, a brother to John Randolph, Jr., b. 1750-52, in 1790, Nelson Co. > Ky. Thomas Osborne Randolph/Mary Molly Bland and family, eventually > migrated to White Co. Ill. > > John Randolph, Jr./Elizabeth Bland(?) had four children: > 1. John Randolph, III, b. abt. 1777, married 1.Polly McFarland 2. Mary > Catherine Kleinpeter. > 2. Prudence Randolph, b. abt. 1778, married Jesse Reno. > 3. Elizabeth Randolph, b. 1784, married James Nicholls. > 4. Robert Randolph, b. abt. 1782, married Polly Cross. > > Some of my information is from Blanche Randolph's book, "The Randolphs of > Prince William County, Virginia". > > I descend from William Randolph, b. about 1756, the brother of John > Randolph/Elizabeth Bland(?), his son, Robert Randolph, b. abt. 1786, Prince > Wm. Co. Va. Sometimes Robert Randolph, son of John Randolph, Jr., and > Robert Randolph, the son of William Randolph, have been confused in the > genealogies. They were first cousins, and grandsons of John Randolph, d. > 1789, Pr.Wm.Co Va./Ann Osborne. My Robert migrated eventually to Callaway > Co. Missouri and died there in 1860. > > Blanche Randolph does not have any more information about your brick wall, > "My brick wall has always been James Nichols ancestry, his father was James, > his mother was Sarah? and some say they came from Maryland." > > DNA has proven that the Prince William Randolph line is not related to the > Turkey Island Randolph line. (William Randolph I/Mary Isham) The earliest > ancestor with proof, of the Prince William Randolph line, is John Randolph, > died 1789, Prince William Co. Va. > > Charlotte Johnson > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> > To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:23 AM > Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > > > > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank > in > > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their > goods > > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I > visited > > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in > anything > > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > > > Thank you > > DeAnna > > > > > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi, Lettie John Randolph,1742- 1775, and known as John Randolph of Matoax, is the son of Richard Randolph (1690-1748) of Curles and Jane Bolling. Jane Bolling is a direct descendant of Pocahontas. John Randolph, b. 1742, married Frances Bland. John Randolph and Frances Bland had three sons: Richard Randolph, 1770-1796, Theodorick Randolph, 1771-1792, and John Randolph, 1773-1833. (This would be John Randolph of Roanoke, who died unmarried and without issue.) Richard Randolph was the only son to have married. He married Judith Randolph, the daughter of Thomas Mann Randolph, 1741-1793, and Anne Cary of Ampthill. They were cousins. Richard Randolph and Judith Randolph had two sons, St. George and Tudor, who both died unmarried and without issue. Theodorick Randolph, the second son of John Randolph, 1742-1775, and Frances Bland, also died unmarried and without issue. Frances Bland Randolph married St. George Tucker after the death of John Randolph in 1775. You have: "John R Randolph Ann Cary, Henrico, VA, 26 June 1742 VA. 28 October 1775" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Those are the dates of John Randolph, son of Richard Randolph and Jane Bolling. He did not marry Anne Cary. Thomas Mann Randolph married Anne Cary. (see above). "Then there is 1 Birth under Captain John: Randolph, Wood Leroy - Born: 11 February 1796 Father: Randolph , John Captain b: 16 NOV 1773 in Chesterfield Co., VA. - d. 4 FEB 1855 in Jackson Co., GA Mother: Hinton , Nancy Ann b. 15 DEC 1776 in Amelia Co., VA " ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is another Randolph line, known as the line of Joseph Randolph of Spotsylvania Co. Va. They are not related by DNA to the Turkey Island, Va. Randolph line or the Prince William Va. line, in addition to the records that we have. Joseph Randolph of Spotsylvania had a son John Randolph, known as "Capt. Jack" Randolph, and he married Nancy Hinton. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Margaret Randolph was the daughter of John Randolph Jr.(died 1822, Baton Rouge, Louisiana) and Elizabeth Bland (died 1804, Muhlenberg Co. Ky.), of the Prince William Randolph line. She is the grand-daughter of John Randolph, d. 1789, Prince William County, Virginia, and Ann Osborne. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I found a John Robert Randolph b. Abt. 1750 to1758 in Prince William County, Virginia d. 22 DEC 1822 in East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana born to John Randolph & Ann Osborne it shows a Margaret Randolph b. 20 OCT 1784 The mother of this Margaret is Elizabeth Bland. He too is called Captain." This is the correct information for Margaret Randolph who married James Nicholls!!!! The Randolph genealogy is very difficult and very easy to get confused; there are so many different lines, and there is a great duplication of names, even within the same family branch...plus so many of them kept marrying their cousins, etc. I belong to a private Randolph research site, which has helped me immensely in sorting them out. If you are interested in joining, please let me know and I will send you an invitation. Charlotte Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "LetMe121363" <LetMe121363@cox.net> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > DeAnna, > > I, too am confused! Here's more! > > Spouse: Birth: Death: > John Randolph, Frances Bland, Henrico, Curles, VA, 29 June 1742 Roanoke, Bdfrd, VA, 28 October 1775 > Frances Bland, John R Randolph, Amelia County, VA, 24 September 1752 Amelia County, Mattoax, VA, 18 January 1788 > > John R Randolph Ann Cary, Henrico, VA, 26 June 1742 VA. 28 October 1775 > > Looks very similar! > > > John R Randolph Ann Cary married 22 September 1761 VA. > > > However this death date would rule out this John as her father. > Even though the Birth Index shows them having children in 1780, 1782 & 1784. > So I can see the problem! > Then there is 1 Birth under Captain John: > Randolph, Wood Leroy - Born: 11 February 1796 > Father: Randolph , John Captain b: 16 NOV 1773 in Chesterfield Co., VA. - d. 4 FEB 1855 in Jackson Co., GA > Mother: Hinton , Nancy Ann b. 15 DEC 1776 in Amelia Co., VA > They had 12 children but no Margaret. > They married: Dec 18, 1793 (She cannot be the mother of Margaret.) I wonder how many wives the Captain had. (I found 2.) > The good captain may have been Margaret's brother instead of Father. > > > I found a John Robert Randolph b. Abt. 1750 to1758 in Prince William County, Virginia d. 22 DEC 1822 in East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana > born to John Randolph & Ann Osborne it shows a Margaret Randolph b. 20 OCT 1784 > The mother of this Margaret is Elizabeth Bland. He too is called Captain. > > Let me know when you tire of this! I'm still looking! Lettie > > This forum really scrambles the emails! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> > To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:23 AM > Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > > > > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank in > > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their goods > > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I visited > > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in anything > > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > > > Thank you > > DeAnna > > > > > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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DeAnna, Are you researching John Randolph, the son of John Randolph, who died in 1789, Prince William Co. Virginia, and Ann Osborne? Their son, John Randolph, was born 1750-52, Prince William Co. Va. and died Dec. 26, 1822, East Baton Rouge Parish, La. He married Elizabeth .......(Family tradition says she was Elizabeth Bland, who may be related to John Bland and Margaret Osborne, sister of Ann Osborne, who married John Randolph, d. 1789. She is not named in John Bland's will, though, and the reason for the question. There is no close relationship with this John Bland/Margaret Osborne and Frances Bland, daughter of Theodorick Bland, who married John Randolph, the son of Richard Randolph/Jane Bolling, and grandson of William Randolph/Mary Isham. John Bland/Margaret Osborne migrated from Prince William Co. Virginia to Nelson County, Ky. Their daughter Mary (Molly) Bland married Thomas Osborne Randolph, a brother to John Randolph, Jr., b. 1750-52, in 1790, Nelson Co. Ky. Thomas Osborne Randolph/Mary Molly Bland and family, eventually migrated to White Co. Ill. John Randolph, Jr./Elizabeth Bland(?) had four children: 1. John Randolph, III, b. abt. 1777, married 1.Polly McFarland 2. Mary Catherine Kleinpeter. 2. Prudence Randolph, b. abt. 1778, married Jesse Reno. 3. Elizabeth Randolph, b. 1784, married James Nicholls. 4. Robert Randolph, b. abt. 1782, married Polly Cross. Some of my information is from Blanche Randolph's book, "The Randolphs of Prince William County, Virginia". I descend from William Randolph, b. about 1756, the brother of John Randolph/Elizabeth Bland(?), his son, Robert Randolph, b. abt. 1786, Prince Wm. Co. Va. Sometimes Robert Randolph, son of John Randolph, Jr., and Robert Randolph, the son of William Randolph, have been confused in the genealogies. They were first cousins, and grandsons of John Randolph, d. 1789, Pr.Wm.Co Va./Ann Osborne. My Robert migrated eventually to Callaway Co. Missouri and died there in 1860. Blanche Randolph does not have any more information about your brick wall, "My brick wall has always been James Nichols ancestry, his father was James, his mother was Sarah? and some say they came from Maryland." DNA has proven that the Prince William Randolph line is not related to the Turkey Island Randolph line. (William Randolph I/Mary Isham) The earliest ancestor with proof, of the Prince William Randolph line, is John Randolph, died 1789, Prince William Co. Va. Charlotte Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank in > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their goods > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I visited > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in anything > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > Thank you > DeAnna > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Lettie, This is my guy ... I found a John Robert Randolph b. Abt. 1750 to1758 in Prince William County, Virginia d. 22 DEC 1822 in East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana born to John Randolph & Ann Osborne it shows a Margaret Randolph b. 20 OCT 1784 The mother of this Margaret is Elizabeth Bland. He too is called Captain. I sure never knew that he remarried !! Where are you getting this stuff ?? This is great !! I went to the Moorman Cemetery ... Someone had apparently replaced Margaret's stone and they put James Nicholls birth date on HER stone. They both have the same date. DeAnna

Lettie, Thank you for all your effort on my behalf !!! Otto Rothert's "History of Muhlenberg County" says that my John is a cousin to John of Roanoke (very famous man) but I have never been able to find that connection. Margaret's mother is Elizabeth ? Some say Bland .. good possibility but I question the fact that they did not have a child named Bland Randolph. This was a practice that I saw regularly with the other Blands in Va. The John Bland of Nelson Co. was married to Margaret Osborne, whose sister Anne was married to a John Randolph who may have been my John's parents. ... are you starting to see a pattern here? I never saw John listed in the DAR books except the Bicentennial Edition, it does list his wife as Elizabeth Bland ... who knows? They did come to Nelson Co. with the family of John Bland, who remained here. Seems to be some connection. James Nichols parents and brother, Henry Maynard Nicholls, remained in Nelson and the homestead which was built 1790s is still here. It is now a Bed and Breakfast. John and at least one son went to Baton Rouge after his wife died. She apparently was buried on the family property and seems to be no sign of any tombstone. I have been to Baton Rouge and I think I copied all available records for him until his death there. John was a "colorful" character. It seems that he got in trouble on a fairly regular basis ... for public profanity. He just paid his fine and went on about his business until he got caught again. Thanks for everything .. but don't get bogged down with those "Randolphs of Virginia" they have been researched forwards and backwards because they were so famous. I don't think they would claim my branch of that family!!! My brick wall has always been James Nichols ancestry, his father was James, his mother was Sarah? and some say they came from Maryland. DeAnna

DeAnna, It was nice of them to replace the stone but they should have made sure it was correct first! Most of it, I find on www.Ancestry.com , I like to make good use of my account. I may start doing this for a living in a few years. I just love it! I will send you an invitation into my Web Site. I collect Genealogy information. Bibles, Photo Albums and Cemetery Photos. Mostly from the 1800's. I started out trying to find my own Families. It was frustrating! You cannot find info that is not posted. So, I started buying & posting. Best Wishes, Lettie ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > Lettie, > This is my guy ... > I found a John Robert Randolph b. Abt. 1750 to1758 in Prince William > County, > Virginia d. 22 DEC 1822 in East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana > born to John Randolph & Ann Osborne it shows a Margaret Randolph b. 20 > OCT > 1784 > The mother of this Margaret is Elizabeth Bland. He too is called Captain. > > I sure never knew that he remarried !! Where are you getting this stuff ?? > This is great !! > > I went to the Moorman Cemetery ... Someone had apparently replaced > Margaret's stone and they put James Nicholls birth date on HER stone. They > both have the same date. > > DeAnna > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

DeAnna, Margaret died 10 Oct 1855 and James Nicholls died 26 Feb 1847 They are buried at Moorman Cemetery, Muhlenberg Co., KY. Maraget had 3 known siblings: Elizabeth, Robert & John Elizabeth d. 1804 in Muhlenberg Co., KY. Maybe that is why they never had a Bland Nicholls. John remarried to Repsy Lamb. This was fun! I wish I could find my families that easily! Best Wishes, Lettie ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > Lettie, > > Thank you for all your effort on my behalf !!! > > Otto Rothert's "History of Muhlenberg County" says that my John is a > cousin to John of Roanoke (very famous man) but I have never been able to > find that connection. > > Margaret's mother is Elizabeth ? Some say Bland .. good possibility but I > question the fact that they did not have a child named Bland Randolph. > This was a practice that I saw regularly with the other Blands in Va. The > John Bland of Nelson Co. was married to Margaret Osborne, whose sister > Anne was married to a John Randolph who may have been my John's parents. > ... are you starting to see a pattern here? > > I never saw John listed in the DAR books except the Bicentennial Edition, > it does list his wife as Elizabeth Bland ... who knows? They did come to > Nelson Co. with the family of John Bland, who remained here. Seems to be > some connection. > > James Nichols parents and brother, Henry Maynard Nicholls, remained in > Nelson and the homestead which was built 1790s is still here. It is now a > Bed and Breakfast. > > John and at least one son went to Baton Rouge after his wife died. She > apparently was buried on the family property and seems to be no sign of > any tombstone. I have been to Baton Rouge and I think I copied all > available records for him until his death there. > > John was a "colorful" character. It seems that he got in trouble on a > fairly regular basis ... for public profanity. He just paid his fine and > went on about his business until he got caught again. > > Thanks for everything .. but don't get bogged down with those "Randolphs > of Virginia" they have been researched forwards and backwards because they > were so famous. I don't think they would claim my branch of that family!!! > > My brick wall has always been James Nichols ancestry, his father was > James, his mother was Sarah? and some say they came from Maryland. > > DeAnna > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

DeAnna, I, too am confused! Here's more! Spouse: Birth: Death: John Randolph, Frances Bland, Henrico, Curles, VA, 29 June 1742 Roanoke, Bdfrd, VA, 28 October 1775 Frances Bland, John R Randolph, Amelia County, VA, 24 September 1752 Amelia County, Mattoax, VA, 18 January 1788 John R Randolph Ann Cary, Henrico, VA, 26 June 1742 VA. 28 October 1775 Looks very similar! John R Randolph Ann Cary married 22 September 1761 VA. However this death date would rule out this John as her father. Even though the Birth Index shows them having children in 1780, 1782 & 1784. So I can see the problem! Then there is 1 Birth under Captain John: Randolph, Wood Leroy - Born: 11 February 1796 Father: Randolph , John Captain b: 16 NOV 1773 in Chesterfield Co., VA. - d. 4 FEB 1855 in Jackson Co., GA Mother: Hinton , Nancy Ann b. 15 DEC 1776 in Amelia Co., VA They had 12 children but no Margaret. They married: Dec 18, 1793 (She cannot be the mother of Margaret.) I wonder how many wives the Captain had. (I found 2.) The good captain may have been Margaret's brother instead of Father. I found a John Robert Randolph b. Abt. 1750 to1758 in Prince William County, Virginia d. 22 DEC 1822 in East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana born to John Randolph & Ann Osborne it shows a Margaret Randolph b. 20 OCT 1784 The mother of this Margaret is Elizabeth Bland. He too is called Captain. Let me know when you tire of this! I'm still looking! Lettie This forum really scrambles the emails! ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank in > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their goods > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I visited > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in anything > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > Thank you > DeAnna > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

This is a great list .. very helpful people here. I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank in the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their goods to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I visited a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in anything that may have led to more records regarding them. Thank you DeAnna

DeAnna, In which case you may want these. Spouse: Birth: Death: John Randolph Frances Bland Henrico, Curles, VA 29 June 1742 Roanoke, Bdfrd, VA 28 October 1775 Frances Bland John R Randolph Amelia County, VA 24 September 1752 Amelia County, Mattoax, VA 18 January 1788 However this death date would rule out this John as her father. Even though the Birth Index shows them having children in 1782 & 1784. So I can see the problem! Then there is 1 Birth under Captain John: Randolph, Wood Leroy Randolph , John Captain Hinton , Nancy Ann 11 February 1796 I'm still looking! Lettie ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank > in > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their > goods > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I > visited > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in > anything > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > Thank you > DeAnna > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

I have an Orlinda GOSSETT but don't know much about her but she married a David SKINNER. Anyone have this couple? God Bless Pam

DeAnna, PS.Judging from Birth Records on www.Ancestry.com I would say her mother was likely Frances Bland. Child: Randolph, Margaret Father: Randolph , John Mother: , Birth: 20 October 1784 Best Wishes, Lettie Kirby (Searching for Dalton & Kirby) ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank > in > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their > goods > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I > visited > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in > anything > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > Thank you > DeAnna > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

DeAnna, On the contrary! James and Margaret were very busy parents! According to the 1850 Census which carries most of her family on 1 page Margaret Randolph was b. 1784 in VA. Here are their children: Nicholls, Araminta Jane Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 1 October 1814 Nicholls, Catherine Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 3 September 1829 Nicholls, Cordelia Ann Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 16 April 1811 Nicholls, Elizabeth Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 2 December 1801 Nicholls, Henry M Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 1 November 1803 Nicholls, James Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 26 January 1818 Nicholls, John Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 19 November 1820 Nicholls, Prudence Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 12 February 1809 Nicholls, Randolph Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 7 February 1816 Nicholls, Robert Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 2 December 1807 Nicholls, Sarah Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 2 November 1805 Nicholls, William Pinkney Nicholls , James Randolph , Margaret 23 February 1823 Marriage: Nicholls, Sarah Elijah Phipps Margaret Randolph James Nicholls 20 November 1800 Nelson County KY Spouse: Birth: Death: Nicholls, William Pinkney Lucy Ann Hall d. 30 July 1880 Nelson Co., KY Araminta Jane Nicholls Charles Fredrick Robertson Muhlenburg, KY b. 1 October 1814 d.20 April 1874 Catherine Nicholls James C Morman Muhlenberg, KY b.3 September 1829 Muhlenberg, KY d.10 July 1883 Cordelia Ann Nicholls Charles A Wickliffe Nelson, KY b.16 April 1811 Muhlenburg, KY d.20 January 1844 Elizabeth Nicholls John Wickliffe Israel Godman Muhlenberg, KY b.2 December 1801 d.6 February 1891 Henry M Nicholls Elizabeth M Nicholls Nelson, KY b.1 November 1803 d.1870 James Nicholls Margaret A Lee Muhlenberg, KY b.26 January 1818 Muhlenberg, KY d.27 January 1852 John Randolph Green River John Nicholls Parthena Board Nelson, KY b.19 November 1820 Muhlenberg, KY d.10 March 1907 Child: Father: Mother: Birth: Nicholls, Margaret E Nicholls , William Pinkney Hall , Lucy Ann 1855 Nicholls, Margaret Elizabeth Nicholls , James Lee , Margaret A 1847 Nicholls, Margaret E Nicholls , Henry M Nicholls , Elizabeth M 1840 From: "kyfisher" <kyfisher@BELLSOUTH.NET> To: <KYMUHLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Randolph / Nichols > This is a great list .. very helpful people here. > > I would like to connect with anyone researching John Randolph of Virginia > who went from Nelson County to South Carrollton (originally Randolph's > Landing) very early. John's brother Robert also was there early. > > His daughter, Margaret Randolph m. James Nicholls/Nichols in Nelson Co., > 1800. The two families went almost immediately to Muhlenberg. > > John Randolph may have been known as "Capt. Jack" not because of his rank in > the Rev. War but because he operated a boat landing and store on the Green > River where people stopped to rest and did business while taking their goods > to sell at Natchez & New Orleans. I found some records of him when I visited > a few years ago but James and Margaret Nichols must have led a quiet life, > rearing their large family on the farm and not getting involved in anything > that may have led to more records regarding them. > > Thank you > DeAnna > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >