I know what you mean about data being put on cd's and offered for sale. I learned something from experience about a couple of people I think were doing just that....Tell your listers...be leery about giving out a lot of info first time round... and if the other person seems more interested in what YOU have to tell them, instead of helping you, be more leery. This has happened on one of the famly names I am trying to research...and the control of the "data" makes it very hard to find out anything from anyone because all of the ones who "know" anything are on that data list and they don't seem to want to help the lowly "researcher" like me. Altho they have a surname mail list, it's useless to ask for any help on it... I never see any replies much to anyone who does list for help....which leads me to believe that it is all controlled by the list owner, or who ever...administrator? Just my experience and observation. To me, it ruins the fun of genealogy and me with only a webtv and not a computer, cd's are of no value to me. Take care and GOD BLESS, Lou

Jessica, There is a will on the Muhlenberg Co. Archives, for Nancy or Ann Boggess, dated April 27th, 1819, that says, Thomas Bell's wife, Hannah Bell, formerly Hannah Boggess is her grandaughter. It also names her children. There might be something that would help you out, in the will. Also there are a lot of new wills, deeds, and other info there that someone might want to check out. Vera Burnham Address is below : http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/muhlenberg/toc.html [email protected] wrote: > Hello All. This is my line that I am researching. Actually, this is the > furtherest back relative that I have definates on. I have a lot of the > information on everyone down from Bryant, but I have hit the brickwall as far > as finding his parents. I found Hannah Boggess-Middleton in the 1850 Federal > Census living in Muhlenberg Co., KY (where my line settled), but she is > listed with only son Briant S. and daughter Nicipa D. (which I think is > actually supposed to be Narcissa?). So, I don't know if the father (I have > been told his name is Robert, but don't really have anything to prove it > except for LDS Marriage records that show a Robert Middleton marrying Hannah > Boggess) died or if him and Hannah separated. > > Does anyone know anything about this line? > > Bryant C. Middleton > Birth: May 1837, Illinois > Death: ? > Occ: Farmer > Father: Robert (?) Middleton > Mother: Hannah Boggess/Boggens (~1804-?) > Spouse: Elvira Boggess > Birth: 1832, Muhlenberg County, KY > Father: Henry R. Boggess > Mother: Mary C. Boggess > Marr: Apr 6, 1857, Muhlenberg County, KY > Children: Green C. (1857-1939) > Sammuel B. (1863-1926) > William T. (1865-?) > John W. (1867-?) > Richard A. (~1870-?) > > Jessica Middleton-McKinney > > My Lines Of Interest Are Below: > Middleton's IL>KY 1830's-2000 > Johnson's TN>KY Late 1800's-2000 > Boggess's VA>KY > Hatfield's AL>GA mid 1800's-2000 > Richardson's AL&GA 1800's-2000 > McBurnett's AL&GA 1800's-2000 > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

From:   Jan, [email protected] (j) It Takes a Heap of Living (from the "Sunday Afternoon Rocking" series) Today my daughter and I pitched in to "be family".  As surely as the barn raisings of the past, so it is when family begins a project, our traditional framework says it is time to "pitch in".  A step-daughter and her husband have built a new home, and we are helping with wallpaper.  They are excited, this young couple, and rightfully so.  Their new home will be lovely.  It sparkles and shines in its crisp newness.  It seems poignant with expectation of good times and family affairs, celebrations and events a future together promises.  And because this couple is young, and standing in the threshold of life, they stand "looking in" and "ahead", happy with expectations, but without the framework of one who has lived.  And so I doubt they see what I see, what my husband sees when we look around us at the sparkling interior. Somehow our gaze ventures beyond that which is "there", that which is lovely indeed, and what we "see" simply can only be seen by eyes that have seen before.  I think Edgar Guest said it best when he penned the lines, "It takes a heap o' living to make a house a home." A house simply isn't a home until it is inhabited not just by people, but by memories.  There have to be some walls echoing laughter, some floors paced with worries, a window one has stared out of in pain.  There have to be some worn spots and some scratches and some scars.  There have to be some things less than perfect to make a place "perfectly a home".  If "it takes a heap of living to make a house a home", it is because it "takes a heap of living to make a life a life".  Somehow a house, once it has become a home, is the badge of honor that proves a life has been lived and still stands proudly bearing the scars of having lived it.  The very fact that the house still stands is proof of the firm foundations upon which it was built, and that in as symbolic a way as a physical one. I peer at a door frame and see tiny pencil marks matching a yet unborn child's growth.  I glance at a place a patio might be poured and imagine a child's handprints in the concrete, preserved forever that an older child or adult will gaze one day and say, "Those were mine".  I peek into at a proposed nursery and see tiny finger smudges on a wall, a crayon mark or two that a mother finds it difficult to paint over, both in reality and in emotion.  I imagine a gang of noisy young folks merrily clamoring in a basement room.  I see bright eyes dancing as they peer over a counter top at freshly made cookies, and I imagine squeals of delight out on the lawn as a child holds up a brightly colored Easter egg.  I think that one day this young couple will be where my husband and I are now, and a young lady will bring a young man through that wide front door one day to meet her folks…and their lives will change forever…again.   Perhaps my step-daughter will one day hear tradition calling, "It is time to pitch in", and she too will be there for her young adult children, delighting in their youth, their expectations on the thresh hold of life.  And I suspect…she will see in the newness of their life together the portent of all the things to come that she will by that time have known.  She will smile at their delight in life, she will enjoy knowing the pleasures they will find as adults carving a place for a family, and she will sadly know in her life all the pain they will face as they begin theirs.  She will come armed with a paint brush or a roll of wall paper, and the hands that she puts to work helping this youthful couple will be a bit roughened, but adept.  The heart that she uses for eyes will be a bit weary, perhaps a bit toughened, and yet in some curious way, a bit more tender.  She will glance at a door frame of a new home, and see tiny pencil marks matching a yet unborn child's growth… "It takes a heap o' living to make a house a home."  And isn't that a large part of what life is all about?  We bear the scars and the scratches and the worn spots, and our "house becomes a home".  We stand as proof that foundations made it possible to survive the storms of life and our house is even more beautiful than the day it was shining in its newness.  How wonderful. 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Hello All. This is my line that I am researching. Actually, this is the furtherest back relative that I have definates on. I have a lot of the information on everyone down from Bryant, but I have hit the brickwall as far as finding his parents. I found Hannah Boggess-Middleton in the 1850 Federal Census living in Muhlenberg Co., KY (where my line settled), but she is listed with only son Briant S. and daughter Nicipa D. (which I think is actually supposed to be Narcissa?). So, I don't know if the father (I have been told his name is Robert, but don't really have anything to prove it except for LDS Marriage records that show a Robert Middleton marrying Hannah Boggess) died or if him and Hannah separated. Does anyone know anything about this line? Bryant C. Middleton Birth: May 1837, Illinois Death: ? Occ: Farmer Father: Robert (?) Middleton Mother: Hannah Boggess/Boggens (~1804-?) Spouse: Elvira Boggess Birth: 1832, Muhlenberg County, KY Father: Henry R. Boggess Mother: Mary C. Boggess Marr: Apr 6, 1857, Muhlenberg County, KY Children: Green C. (1857-1939) Sammuel B. (1863-1926) William T. (1865-?) John W. (1867-?) Richard A. (~1870-?) Jessica Middleton-McKinney My Lines Of Interest Are Below: Middleton's IL>KY 1830's-2000 Johnson's TN>KY Late 1800's-2000 Boggess's VA>KY Hatfield's AL>GA mid 1800's-2000 Richardson's AL&GA 1800's-2000 McBurnett's AL&GA 1800's-2000

In a message dated 3/23/2001 4:47:57 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Attention: Sherry Petersen >> You might also want to check Todd County. I have some Hurt's living prior to 1850 in Todd County. I don't have a Nathan. I have an Abraham Hurt born about 1800 in Virginia who had five children born in Elkton, Todd County Kentucky. Their names are Mary Jane Hurt b. 1821 d 1842 married to William Willis, Melinda Hurt b. 1835 d.unknown married Robert Kelly, Howard Finley Hurt b. 1831 d 1886 married Jane (Smith) Slaughter, Elijah Hurt b..about 1833 d. unknown married Alice McGehee, Margaret Hurt b. about 1837 d. unknown married Samuel F. Bryan. Good luck on your search. Tim Mitchell (Oklahoma City, OK)

Attention: Sherry Petersen I've check all my Muhlenberg County books and cannot find any reference to a Nathan Hurt. There were no Hurts in the 1840 and 1850 censuses (I understand your family moved before 1850). There were no Hurt wills, nor cemetery records for Hurts during the period of time you seek. There were very few later even. There were two Hurt grooms in the Marriage Records 1802-1904 06 Feb 1836 - Lewis Hurt m. Temperance Johnson 24 Oct 1850 Francis Asbury Hurt m. Irene Joines In an early Muhlenberg County deed I found: DB 1 & 2, p. 222. 07 Sep 1807 Deed where land was sold by Thomas Littlepage and Sally (Hurt) Littlepage. Land belonged to Moses Hurt, deceased. Moses' wife was Elizabeth Hurt, widow, and their children were all daughters: Jane, Nannie, Rhoda and Sallie who had married Thomas Littlepage. Still, understanding your family had left by 1850, I checked the 1850 censuses for Butler, Ohio and Logan counties just to see what Hurts I could find. No Hurts in Butler and Ohio counties. In Logan there was Sarah Hurt 65 and apparently her children: Thomas Minor 23; Rolinda 30; Charles P. 20; and Mary F. 10, perhaps a grandchild. Also in Logan was B.F. Hurt 27 and wife Lucy W. 33 with three small children. You (or perhaps someone would check for you) need to check the 1840 Kentucky Census Index to see if you can find Nathan listed. Also, there were a lot of Hunts in Muhlenberg County and we're all aware of how difficult old handwriting is to read. Hunt and Hurt could easily be mistaken for the other. Sorry I could not help. Dorann in KY

I have just learned that my George Washington HURT was b. 24 Jul 1846 in Greenville, Muhlenburg Co., KY. He was the fourth child of Nathan HURT. Is there anyone with more info or suggestions? Name: Nathan HURT Birth: 1810 KY Spouse: Lucinda WRIGHT Birth: 1819 KY Children: 1 M: Charles HURT Birth: 1839 KY 2 F: Susan HURT Birth: 1839 KY 3 F: Mary HURT Birth: 1845 KY 4 M: George Washington HURT Birth: 24 Jul 1846 Greenville, Muhlenberg Co., KY Death: 16 Feb 1928 Patoka, Marion Co, IL Spouse: Elizabeth A. (Lizzie) CAHILL Marriage: 28 Feb 1892 Marion Co. IL 5 F: Lydia HURT Birth: 1849 IL 6 F: Sarah HURT Birth: abt 1849 IL Notes for Nathan HURT Moved from KY to IL between 1845-1849 by children's birthdates.

This is all wonderful. We need to plan a trip there to see. I really appreciate your help. Sandy

Hi, Diane, On the Muhlenberg County List you wrote: "I am looking for information on a Kincheloe from Muhlenberg County. Peter Kincheloe died there around 1830. His name is on the Rev. War marker in front of the Muhlenberg County Courthouse. Do you have any information on Mary Kincheloe's family?" Here is what little info I have found from books I have in my personal library: 1800 Muhlenberg County Tax List - Lewis Kincheloe and Stephen 1810 Muhlenberg County KY Census p. 393 Kincheloe, Stephen 31001 - 01010 p. 393 Kincheloe, William 00110 41010 p. 398 Kincheloe, Peter 00001 00010 - (One Male 45 and over; One Female age 26-44) p. 404 Kincheloe, Lewis 1820 Muhlenberg County KY Census p. 134a - Peter Kincheloe - 1 male 45 and over; 1 female 45 and over p. 136a Kinchelo, William p.139a Kincheloe, Lewis B. p.140a Kincheloe, William 1830 Muhlenberg County KY Census p. 93 Kincheloe, William p. 101 Kincheloe, Lewis D. Muhlenberg County, KY Deed Books 1-5 Abstracts 1798-1823 by Brenda C. Doss Deed Book 3, p. 223. 10 Jul 1810 Frederick Unsell sold to James Unsell both of Muhlenberg County KY for $60, 100 acres of land, 4 milk cows and 3 calves, 2 yearlin heifer, 1 large kettle, 1 small pot and 1 dutch oven, all household furniture and farming utensils. Land adjoining Thomas Belle, line of Jesse Jackson, line of James Unsell, line of Henry Unsell. Signed Frederick Unsell. Witnesses Peter KINSHALO and Joseph McCown. DB 3.286. 10 Jul 1811 John McGilliard rec'd from Frederick Unsell 1 horse at $60, 1 saddle at $16 in part payment of the estate of Benjamin Chambers deceased of Hamilton County OH. Signed John McGilliard. Witness Peter KINSHALO. Also 1 note for %0 on John Sample and 1 note of $3 on Gerrald Sullivan and 1 order on Robert Brown for $22.50. DB 4.359. 25 Dec 1817. Henry Unsell, Jr., security for Ishmael Hughes on 4 notes. 1 paid this day, the other 3 payable to Peter KINCHELOE in 1, 2 & 3 years for $25 each. To Henry Unsell I sell: 1 feather bed & furniture, 1 mans saddle, 1 womans saddle, 1 large iron pot, 1 brown cow, 1 brown horse, 1 sorrel colt, 1 hand saw & drawing knife. Signed Ishael Hughes. Source: Heritage (Genealogical publication of Muhlenberg County Genealogy Society), "Abstracts of Early County Court Records" by Marian G. Hammers Book ___, p. 261, __ Nov 1824 To Peter Kincheloe and wife, poor persons, $50 - in hands of Jesse Jackson Book ___, p. 29, 29 Nov 1830 - To Peter Kincheloe & wife to be placed in hands of Henry Unsell, Jr. $50 Book ___, p 58, 28 Nov 1831 - Margaret Kinchloe, in hands of Henry Unsell, Jr. Book ___, pp. 127, 128 - 25 Nov 1833. The County made debtor to: Mrs. Kincheloe in hands of James Taggar (?Taggart) In the Genealogy and History Annex (library) in Greenville, there is a book which you might want to check out: Kincheloe, McPherson and Related Families by Lewin Dwinell McPherson, 1951. If you will email the library perhaps the staff would check to see if Peter Kincheloe is mentioned. Their address is <[email protected]> Kincheloe is not my line but I know the name goes back to the early history of the county. You might also want to check Nelson County, KY records and VA as you work your way back. Have you checked Virgil White's Abstracts of Rev. War Pension Files? Dorann Lam in KY

Looking for Bryan Cundiff and Jane Hutcheson - ok Sarah Jane Wickliffe and William Young Cundiff - ok Moses Wickliffe and Nancy Young - below Aaron Wickliffe and Mary Kincheloe Benjamin Wickliffe and Sarah David/Davis Robert Wickliffe and Dorcas Arrington Sarah Jane Wickliffe d/o Col. Moses Wickliffe and Nancy Young married 30 Jul 1840, Muhl. Co. William Young Cundiff. Muhlenberg County KY Abstracts of Wills and Administrations by Marian G. Hammers Will Book III, pp. 133-134 Moses Wickliffe Will of Muhlenberg County KY; dated 11 Apr 1849; p/Oct County Court 1853 To wife Nancy Wickliffe and at her death or remarriage property is to be divided between his two sons Charles and John, to son Aron, to son Benjamin, to son Robert, to daughter Sarah Jane Cundiff wife of William Cundiff, to sons William and Moses, to daughter Agness, to youngest daughter Mary Francis. The sons Aron and William were named Executors. Witnesses: J. Bodine and B.T. Casebier A History of Muhlenberg County by Otto A. Rothert. 1913, pp. 22-23 "Colonel Moses Wickliffe was born in VA in 1779 and settled in Muhlenberg about 1796. . . Colonel Wickliffe did much toward encouraging not only some of his kinsmen, but many others, to settle in Muhlenberg. His integrity and his interest in the development of the community soon placed him among the best-known men inf the county . . .In 1814 Colonel Wickliffe married Nancy Young of Muhlenberg. They were the parents of ten children, all of whom were well-known citizens of the county. He died in 1854 at his home near what is now known as Bevier. . . . (they) were the parents of (1) Aaron; (2) William Y.; (3) Mrs. Susan (sic) Jane (William Y.) Cundiff, whose husband was a son of pioneer Bryant Cundiff; (4 and 5) Benjamin Singleton and Robert McLean, twins, the two well-known bachelors; (6) Moses, a bachelor, who resigned as sheriff of the county to join the Confederate army and who later often served as a magistrate; (7) Mrs. Agnes Elizabeth (John F.) Davis; (8) Charles Bryant who served as sheriff and who represented the county in the Legislature in 1889-91; (9) John Kincheloe a Confederate soldier killed during the war; and (10) Miss Mary Frances Wickliffe." (I'd recommend this book to you. It has a picture of Pioneer Moses Wickliffe from Pen and Ink Sketch made in 1817. Muhlenberg County KY Marriages 1802-1904 by Hopkins County Genealogical Society. 14 Aug 1817 - Moses Wickliff to Nancy Young Muhlenberg County KY Cemetery Book III by Marian G. Hammers Crescent Cemetery Moses Wickliffe died Aug 30 1853, age 74 yrs 16ds Nancy wife of Moses Wickliffe - 01 Jul 1798 - 19 Jul 1863 (stone is down) 1850 Muhlenberg County KY Census extracted by Marian G. Hammers 445-445 - Wickliffe, Moses, 69, Farmer $6,000, b. VA Nancy 54 KY; R.F. (m) 25; Robert M. 25; Moses Young 23; Charles 19; Agness 20; John K. 15; Marg. F. 12 (Children b. KY) 1860 Muhlenberg County KY Census extracted by Marian G. Hammers 273-273 - Wickliffe, Mrs. A., 67, Domestic, $2,400;$11,500 b.KY (This is the only person who could be Nancy. The "A" could have been misread or could stand for Ann - interchangeable with the name Nancy.) When you put all this together and decide you want cemetery data on all the children of Moses and Nancy you can let me know. If you should decided you wish to purchase any of these books for your personal library I'd be glad to tell you how to secure them. I get NO commission!!

Looking for Bryan Cundiff and Jane Hutcheson - ok Sarah Jane Wickliffe and William Young Cundiff - ok Moses Wickliffe and Nancy Young -ok Aaron Wickliffe and Mary Kincheloe Benjamin Wickliffe and Sarah David/Davis Robert Wickliffe and Dorcas Arrington Col. Moses Wickliffe and Nancy Young married in Muhlenberg County 14 Aug 1817. Trying to determine father of Moses Wickliffe. History of the Wickliffe, Waters, Harden and Logan Families in Kentucky, an Unfinished Family History by John D. Wickliffe (1838-1923). Privately printed by Henry R. Turner III, PO Box 184, Route 9-D, Garrison, NY 10524. Oct. 1992, states "Aaron Wickliffe died in Virginia leaving several children, one of these a son Col. Moses Wickliffe. He came to Kentucky and located lands in Muhlenberg County where he died in the early 1850's. . . ." Turner offered no proof of this. Kentucky Ancestor, Vol. 25, No. 1, 1989: Moses Wickliffe. b. 14 Aug 1779, Prince William County, VA s/o Aaron Wickliffe (s/o Susan Davis and Benjamin Wickliffe; d. Prince William County, VA ca. 1785) and Mary Kincheloe (d/o Elizabeth Wickliffe and Daniel Kincheloe) Moses came to Muhlenberg County in 1799. He was a member of the Kentucky "Corn Stalk Militia," served in War of 1812, large Kentucky landowner and representative in Kentucky General Assembly 1816-1819. He died 30 Aug 1853, Muhlenberg County, and is buried in Crescent Cemetery. He married 14 Aug 1817, Muhlenberg County, Nancy Young, b. 01 Jul 1798, Prince William County, VA, d. 19 Jul 1863, Muhlenberg County; buried with husband. Nancy was d/o Sarah Singleton and William Young (b.1755, Faujquier County, VA, a Rev. War Vet., who came to Nelson County KY 1804 and later to Muhlenberg County where he died 04 Sep 1833). Moses and Nancy were the parents of Sarah Jane Wickliffe, b. 01 Nov 1822, Muhlenberg County; d. 09 Feb ;1894; m. 30 Jul 1840 to William Y. Cundiff (b. 29 Jul 1816, Muhlenberg County; d. 13 May 1833, Muhlenberg County and s/o Bryan Y. Cundiff (b. 08 May 1780, Muhlenberg County; d. 06 Nov 1841, Muhlenberg County) and Margaret Wickliffe (b. 22 Mar 1783; m. 07 Jun 1812; d. 10 Mar 1861, Muhlenberg County). Contributed by Descendant: Kathryn Cundiff Carter, f269 North Court Street, Irvine, KY 40336. (This material was the work of Ms. Carter. There was no proof offered.) Lastly, Muhlenberg County KY Genealogical Society's publication The Heritage has an article on Moses Wickliffe (Vol. 13, No. 4, 1991, p. 41.) "Col. Moss Wickliffe was born in Prince William Co VA, 14 Aug 1779. He was a son of Revolutionary War soldier Aaron Wickliffe and his wife Mary Kincheloe Wickliffe . . . ." This is back as far as I have resources. The above data do NOT prove that Aaron Wickliffe was the father of Moses. But, apparently three people did find some indication or proof enough to put it into print. Plus the data you have in your Bible record. So it's a good place to work. Incidentally, have you thought of posting your Bible record online for the benefit of others. Even though you may have questions about it ?? We all need "beginning places." If you have more questions concerning Muhlenberg County people/events, I'll be glad to try to answer. Good luck in your search. Dorann A very important PS - The death of Moses Wickliffe is recorded in the very old Muhlenberg County Vital Statistics (from a filmstrip of the Kentucky Historical Society listing deaths by county) Death of Moses Wickliffe, age 75, b. VA. FATHER AARON WICKLIFFE. That is the proof we need as to who his father was.

[email protected] wrote: > Sandy, > > I'm interested in where you got your information as to the generations of > Cundiffs, Youngs, Wickliffes. Was this someone else's work? Figuring out > families is fairly easy back to 1850 where you have censuses listing all > members of families. Back of that, it's much harder. I'm willing to > continue, but it would seem that your request for information is based on > previous work? Bible records? Ours is a bible list, given us by our cousin. We are attempting to substantiate. Haven't found much, but I just began searching the census before moving back home. I haven't a clue where the nearest library is, except the LDS, which is next town over! > Genealogy? It would help a lot to know. I have not worked on the Wickliffes > but have seen the work of others. I've been interested in the Youngs for a long > time and I know there are a lot of unanswered questions at that point! Hope > what I've sent thus far will fill in gaps. I think someone else has been > sending you some censuses and I did not mean to intrude on her work. > > Dorann > Don't be concerned about "intruding" It's all about info, right? Sandy

No, but am looking. Have a feeling we'd need to look in the KY records. But.... sadly, I'm 2500- 3000 miles away! I'll check with the list! Sandy Diane Lehner wrote: Hello, I am looking for information on a Kincheloe from Muhlenberg County. Peter Kincheloe died there around 1830. His name is on the Rev. War marker in front of the Muhlenberg County Courthouse. > Do you have any information on Mary Kincheloe's > family? > Diane Lehner > [email protected] wrote:

John C. son May 1893 07 KY KY KY My grandfather! This is wonderful info and thank you so much! I'll file it! Sandy

Am researching the BATSEL family and allied families: MOORMAN, LOVETT, HENSON, from around Central City, and Greenville from the 1800s through the present day. Thomas Lee HENSON 26 Aug 1878 (in Benton KY)-22 Nov 1913 T. M. HENSON Sarah NORWOOD George Newton LOVETT Mary Anne ROSS Any information on the BATSELs, LOVETTS or HENSONs greatly appreciated. Thanks Lee Ann Steinmetz [email protected] What time do we leave for the future?

Merlon Jackson Dukes was son of William L. Dukes and Mariah______. He was born __, died in 1903 or 04. Flavia Stewart Mar.1879-1953...she was buried at Mt. Zion Cem. Ohio County,Ky with her Stewart parents, but MJD may have been buried in Muhlenberg County. They were married in Ohio County. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [KYMUHLEN] Dukes, Stewarts > Erma, > > Can you tell us approximately when these people lived? That always helps a > whole lot. > > Dorann > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Erma, Can you tell us approximately when these people lived? That always helps a whole lot. Dorann

In a message dated 3/12/2001 7:09:24 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYMUHLEN] Wickliffe's Date: 3/12/2001 7:09:24 PM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] (Sandy Morrison) To: [email protected] Looking for Bryan Cundiff and Jane Hutcheson Sarah Jane Wickliffe and William Young Cundiff Moses Wickliffe and Nancy Young Aaron Wickliffe and Mary Kincheloe Benjamin Wickliffe and Sarah David/Davis Robert Wickliffe and Dorcas Arrington Any help would be appreciated, I don't know where to begin, what census to look in, etc. Sandy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- Crescent Cemetery (Cemetery Book III by Marian G. Hammers) William Y. Cundiff - 29 Jul 1816 - 13 May 1883 Sarah J. wife - 01 Nov 1822 - 09 Feb 1894 1880 Muhlenberg County KY Census (Transcribed by Marian G. Hammers and typed by Brenda C. Doss and Kathy E. Kemp) Dwg. is two houses away from Hutcheston #140 - Cundiff, William 63 KY VA VA Sarah 55 wife KY VA VA Moses W. 38 son KY KY KY Mag. 35 dau KY KY KY Nancy 33 dau KY KY KY Bryant 30 son KY KY KY John 25 son KY KY KY Mary J. 22 dau KY KY KY Agness 20 dau KY KY KY Ben 18 son KY KY KY Bob 15 son KY KY KY 1870 Muhlenberg County KY Census (Transcribed by Marian G. Hammers) #32 - Cundiff, W.Y. 52 $2,000/$700 (Everyone born in KY) Sarah J. 42 Margaretta 25 Bryant 21 M.W. 27 Farmer Nancy 23 William Y. 18 John 16 Mary J. 13 Agness 11 Benjamin 09 Robert 05 1860 Muhlenberg County KY Census (Copied by Marian G. Hammers) #581-547 - Cundiff, William Y. 44 $4,000/$7,000 (All b. KY) Sarah J. 37 Moses W. 19 Margaret W. 17 Nancy Y. 13 Bryant 10 William Y. 08 John D. 06 Mary Jane 034 Agness D. 01 1850 Muhlenberg County KY Census (Copied, compiled and distributed by Marian G. Hammers) #411-411 - Cundiff, William 33 (all in family b. KY) Sarah J. 27 Moses W. 09 Margaret A. 07 Nancy Y. 04 Briant 02 1. Moses W. Cundiff did not marry. Crescent Cemetery Moses W. s/o WY & SJ Cundiff - 21 Mar 1841 - 03 Nov 1891 2. Margaret W. Cundiff did not marry Crescent Cemetery Margaret W. Cundiff - 10 Apr 1843 - 17 Jun 1908 3. Nancy Young Cundiff did not marry Wickliffe Cemetery or Crescent Cemetery (could not find) Obituary of Miss Nancy Cundiff. Miss Nancy Young Cundiff, 90 years old, died at her home near Cleaton at 5 am Sunday ... burial was in the Wickliffe Cemetery near Cleaton. Obit. undated. Death Certificate Muhlenberg County, Cleaton #8872 Nancy Young Cundiff died at home Female, White, Single, Apoplexy, b. Muhlenberg County b. 26 Aug ____; d. 22 Feb 1936, 90 years Parents William Y. Cundiff and Sarah Jane Wickliffe Informant Margaret Hendrie, Route 2, Greenville Buried Wickliffe Burying Ground, 24 Feb 1936 4. Bryant Y. Cundiff 5. William Young Cundiff Nelson Creek Cemetery (not in Cemetery books) 04 Aug 1851 - 24 Mar 1937 Death Certificate Muhlenberg County, Cleaton #9021 William Young Cundiff, carpenter, worked until 1924; Male, White, Widow Wife Luvina Cundiff b. 04 Aug 1851 - d. 24 Mar 1937; Euremia Parents William Young Cundiff b. KY; Mother Sarah Jane Wickliffe b. KY Informant Cecil Cundiff, Route 2, Greenville Buried Nelson Cemetery 25 March 1937 Death Certificate Muhlenberg County, Hillside, Central City KY #14546 Louvina Cundiff, housewife b. MO Female, White, Widow; wife of WW (?) Cundiff Parents J.B. Smith b. MO; Catherine Virginia Elmore b. MO Informant Mrs. J.E. Liley, Tulsa OK Buried Nelson, 12 Apr 1937 b. 09 Jun 1866; d. 11 Apr 1937; 70y 10m 2d (I'm assuming this is William Young's wife; have not found a marriage record in Muhl. Co. 6. John D. or J. Cundiff Nelson Creek Church Cemetery John K. Cundiff - 15 Feb 1854 - 28 Jan 1945 Mary K. Cundiff - 18 Dec 1865 - 05 Jan 1930 Married Mary K. Sharp, 30 Mar 1886, Muhlenberg County KY 7. Mary Jane Cundiff did not marry 23 Aug 1856 - 24 May 1927 (cannot find where I got b/d dates!) 8. Agness D. Cundiff did not marry Crescent Cemetery 07 Mar 1859 - 10 Mar 1897 9. Benjamin S. Cundiff did not marry Crescent Cemetery 08 Aug 1861 - 03 Jan 1892 10. Robert "Bob" Cundiff did not marry (cannot find where I got b/d dates) 08 Apr 1865 - 04 Nov 1936 ------------------------- Sandy, I'm interested in where you got your information as to the generations of Cundiffs, Youngs, Wickliffes. Was this someone else's work? Figuring out families is fairly easy back to 1850 where you have censuses listing all members of families. Back of that, it's much harder. I'm willing to continue, but it would seem that your request for information is based on previous work? Bible records? Genealogy? It would help a lot to know. I have not worked on the Wickliffes but have seen the work of others. I've been interested in the Youngs for a long time and I know there are a lot of unanswered questions at that point! Hope what I've sent thus far will fill in gaps. I think someone else has been sending you some censuses and I did not mean to intrude on her work. Dorann

I am doing research on some relatives from the Merlon Jackson Dukes and Flavia A. Stewart family, sure would appreciate any help I can get! Erma L. McKinley [email protected]

In a message dated 3/12/2001 7:09:24 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: [KYMUHLEN] Wickliffe's Date: 3/12/2001 7:09:24 PM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] (Sandy Morrison) To: [email protected] Looking for Bryan Cundiff and Jane Hutcheson Sarah Jane Wickliffe and William Young Cundiff Moses Wickliffe and Nancy Young Aaron Wickliffe and Mary Kincheloe Benjamin Wickliffe and Sarah David/Davis Robert Wickliffe and Dorcas Arrington ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Hi, Sandy, The Cundiffs, Wickliffes, and Youngs go back to the early days of Muhlenberg County. I have worked on some of the families but they are not mine. I'll be glad to share what I have but I'm not sure how much is correct. I'll document or explain where I got this so you can check it out. Bryant Cundiff died intestate. Death Certificate Muhlenberg County KY #5423 Bryant Cundiff, Carpenter Male, White, Widow, b. KY; Cause of death: Acute Pharengitis B. 24 Apr 1849; D. 28 Feb 1918; 68y, 10m, 4d Father B.Y. Cundiff b. KY; Mother S.J. Wickliffe b. KY Informant: Bell Cundiff, Cleaton Dr. T.B. Slaton, Greenville, KY Buried Wickliffe Graveyard, 01 Mar 1918 Undertaker J.L. Thomas, Cleaton Bryan (without the "t") is listed in Cemetery Book III (by Marian G. Hammers) in Crescent Cemetery. Crescent Cemetery (used to be Crescent Mines in area) is located near Cleaton, KY. Mrs. Hammers stated, "There are many, many unmarked graves in this cemetery which now seems completely abandoned. It is grown up with brush and briers. Copied Nov. 12 1972." Wickliffe Cemetery is located 3/4 mile northeast of Crescent Cemetery. There are two or three identifiable graves listed in the book. Buried next to Bryant Cundiff is Jennie H. Cundiff - 01 May 1858 - 15 Dec 1902 Death Certificates are available in KY beginning in 1911 so there would not be a DC for Jennie. Jennie was b. in Rutherford County, TN and the name was Jennie Lamb Hutchison. This name and place of birth were listed in the DAR application of Kathryn Cundiff Carter. I cannot verify. In Muhlenerg County, 13 Sep 1882 Bryant Cundiff m. Jennie Hutchison. In the 1880 Muhlenberg County census I found Jennie Hutchison, three houses away from the Cundiffs: 230-245 - Hutcherson, Richard 54 NC NC NC farmer Eliza 30 sister NC NC NC; Sallie 35 sister NC NC NC Jordan, Mariah 50 sister NC NC NC wd Hutcherson, Jane 22, niece TN NC NC Family of Bryant Y. Cundiff and Jennie Hutcheson 1910 Muhlenberg County Census Jane had died in 1902. Bryant should be there one last census but I cannot find him in the book I have. Perhaps he was omitted in the index; perhaps he had moved. 1900 Muhlenberg County Census (transcribed and typed by Brenda C. Doss) 333-341 - Cundiff, Bryant b. Apr 1849, age 51, m. 17 years KY KY KY Jennie May 1858, 42, 9 children; 7 alive, TN NC TN William R. son Oct 1884 15 KY KY TN Geneva J. dau Dec 1885 14 KY KY KY Winston H. son Oct 1887 12 KY KY KY Sarah J. dau Sep 1889 10 KY KY KY Tobitha E. dau Jul 1891 08 KY KY KY John C. son May 1893 07 KY KY KY Benjamin -. son Jul 1897 02 KY KY KY The 1900 census was the only census where they appeared together as a family since the 1890 census burned in DC. From the cemetery books (by Marion Hammers): Crescent Cemetry Annie R. Cundiff d/o B. & J.H. Cundiff - 03 Jul 1883 - 24 Aug 1886 Infant daughter of B. & J.H. Cundiff - d. 19 Jan 1900 (These would be the two deceased children named in the 1900 census.) Others: Evergreen Cemetery, Greenville, KY William Robert Cundiff - 05 Oct 1884 - 25 Aug 1996 Belle J. Cundiff - 114 Oct 1880 - 16 Feb 1973 Muhlenberg County, KY Marriages 05 Oct 1904 - William R. Cundiff m. Bell Johnston. 27 Jan 1907 - L.P. Johnson m. Geneva Cundiff. 14 Mar 1907 - John Dearing m. S.J. Cundiff. 24 Oct 1910 - W.H. Cundiff m. Elizabeth Holman 31 Jan 1920 - Forest Maiden m. Elizabeth Cundiff. 21 Sep 1912 - Clarence Cundiff m. Grace McClearn 16 Feb 1920 - Clarence Cundiff m. Hortense Allen Perhaps you would know if any of those marriages are correct. Hope this helps a little. I'll send more as I have time. Dorann Lam in KY