Mr. MacTavish, As I said in the guestbook entry to Yontz Family Page, the Yonts family figured prominently in our Helsley family in the early 1800s in Muhlenberg County, Ky. The earliest one of reference is Eva Elizabeth Yonts born March 7, 1782 in Rowan County, N.C. to William Yonts (1752-1809) and Mary Magdalena ...(1752-1825). Eva Elizabeth Yonts married Jacob Helsley, my g-g-g-g-grandfather(too many gs maybe). They were the parents of another g-gr--father, William Helsley, who took a second wife, Catherine Yonts, Sept. 9, 1856 Muhlenberg. Jacob Helsley's brother, Michael, also married a Susannah Yonts Feb. 15, 1825. She also was a daughter of William Yonts, above. Susannah was born 1798 in N.C. Let me know if you have better ties with more details. I'm doing a book on Heltsley family history. I can be a little more specific. Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/native Muhlenberg Co., Ky/ex-Saline County, Ill.

My aunt's first husband (who died in 1979, in Muhlenberg County) was Rayburn Yonts, son of Alfred Yonts and Ida Rust. My aunt can be reached at: Mrs. Margie Wilcox 243 No. Cherry Street Greenville, KY 42345 She is not on the Internet. However, she undoubtedly knows more about Rayburn's family. Linda Clements Dayton, Nevada ----- Original Message ----- From: The Yonts Family Center To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:08 PM Subject: [KYMUHLEN] Yonts, Yonce, Jans surname and web site Does anyone have any families with the surname Yonts, Yontz, Yonce, Younce, Jans, in their family trees, from Muhlenburg and/or surrounding KY Counties? If so, please e-mail me. We may be able to exchange helpful information. Also, those who are Yonts family members or researchers may wish to visit my web site, the Yonts Family Center at: www.nii.net/~yonts Thanks! Dr. D. MacTavish E-mail: [email protected] ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

HI DONNA, Archibald Yontz is indeed a member of my Yonts family tree, though from a different branch. I don't have much on him and I have nothing on Mary Pannell. Below is a tree I have for Archie. It's incomplete. However, I believe there are a number of trees concerning Archie's line on my Yonts web site, with much more information. Just look for the trees pertaining to William Yonts, Sr., born 1752. Also, I'm quite sure that this same William Yonts, Sr. is the son of Wilhelm Jans, born 1714 in Oberalben, Germany. But I haven't been able to prove this yet. Cheers, Dr. D. MacTavish ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Descendants of William Yonts, Sr., Muhlenberg Yonts Line 1 William Yonts, Sr., Muhlenberg Yonts Line b: October 25, 1752 in NC or PA d: October 18, 1787 in Rowan Co., NC .. +Magdalena Spraker b: Abt. 1752 in Wayne County, NC d: in Rowan Co., NC 2 John William ("William") Yonts, Jr. b: 1784 ... +Catherine Alpin, Elbin b: Abt. 1785 3 John Lawrence Yonts b: August 15, 1810 d: 1868 2 Eva Elizabeth Yonts b: 1782 in NC d: 1859 in KY ... +William Heltsey b: Abt. 1780 2 Phillip Yonts, Sr. b: 1786 in NC d: 1858 in Muhlenberg?, KY ... +Mary Ann Warner b: 1791 in NC d: in Muhlenberg?, KY 3 John Warner Yonts b: Abt. 1820 .... +Nancy McConnell b: Abt. 1825 .. 4 Archibald C. Yonts b: Abt. 1845 ...... +Mary E. Pannell b: 1850 Father: James M. Pannell Mother: Eliza Ann Crockett ... 5 Joseph Yonts b: June 21, 1873 in KY ....... +Ella (Eleonor) Dean b: Abt. 1875 2 Rudolph Yonts b: 1788 in NC d: 1858 in Muhlenberg?, KY ... +Zabary ("Sabra") Reed b: Abt. 1790 3 Abington Yonts b: 1810 2 Lawrence Yonts, Lorenz Jans b: November 30, 1794 in The Netherlands or NC? d: 1866 in KY ... +Elizabeth Alpin, Eblin b: Abt. 1795 2 Suzanna Yonts b: 1798 in NC d: 1852 in KY ... +Michael Heltsey b: Abt. 1795 2 Peter Yonts, Sr. b: 1776 in NC d: 1819 in NC 2 Magdalena Yonts b: 1790 in NC 2 Sarah Yonts b: 1792 in NC ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mary Elizabeth Pannell b. 1850 m. Archibald Yontz 1867 in Muhlenberg Co. Mary was the d/o James M. Pannell and Eliza Ann Crockett. Eliza Ann was the d/o William Crockett, my g.g.g.grandfather. I would appreciate any information you have to offer. Thanks. Donna

Does anyone have any families with the surname Yonts, Yontz, Yonce, Younce, Jans, in their family trees, from Muhlenburg and/or surrounding KY Counties? If so, please e-mail me. We may be able to exchange helpful information. Also, those who are Yonts family members or researchers may wish to visit my web site, the Yonts Family Center at: www.nii.net/~yonts Thanks! Dr. D. MacTavish E-mail: [email protected]

Dear Billie, A day or two ago you wrote a few lines about Jeff Murphy. I believe that Jeff touched many of our lives and he certainly did a great deal to further genealogical research online. We will miss him. I corresponded with Jeff for many years, since I was particularly interested in Muhlenberg County KY as was Jeff. Not too long ago I wrote and asked him how he was doing. That is just about the time that things really started looking bad for him. I got a nice personal note back from him at that time, and at the same time he posted a message to several lists informing everyone of the bad situation with his health. Other people responded to him through the lists. Yesterday I got a private message from his widow, Debra, and I wrote back directly to her. She was so grateful to hear from me. She said it is helping her to cope. So, everybody, if you feel as sad as I do about Jeff's death, feel free to write a note to Debra. I think she will appreciate it. Her address is: Debra Murphy [email protected] Jean Rhoads Camas in Long Island

HI ERNIE, THANKS FOR THE ADDRESS, I WAS GOING TO VISIT BRENDA NEXT MONTH AND THOUGHT I WOULD COPY WHAT I NEEDED, BUT IF I CAN BUY IT, THAT WOULD BE BETTER. DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANYMORE AROUND, I DIDN'T KNOW SHE GAVE THE PRINTING RIGHTS AWAY. THANKS JOYCE ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [KYMUHLEN] Heltsey > Hi Joyce, > I'm not selling books but if the library doesn't have a copy of Brenda's > book you can buy it from A.B. Willhite, 4396 Coopertown Road, Russellville, > Ky. 42276. > Brenda turned over rights to print and sell the book. There's actually two > books for a total of $60 or so. > > Ernie > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Hi Joyce, I'm not selling books but if the library doesn't have a copy of Brenda's book you can buy it from A.B. Willhite, 4396 Coopertown Road, Russellville, Ky. 42276. Brenda turned over rights to print and sell the book. There's actually two books for a total of $60 or so. Ernie

Does anyone on the list have access to records that would show adoption of a William Winters by Susan or William Crockett around 1859 or inheritance of property by him from either of them? William Crockett would have died after 1860. Susan died around 1859. Also looking for any information on Eliza Pannell in Central City. She was living in S.Carrollton in 1860 but lived in Central City in the 1880's. She could have been living with her daughter Martha Pannell Ross and family. Donna

HI I CAN FIND OUT WHERE YOU CAN GET THE HELTSLEY/HELSLEY BOOK, BRENDA IS MY COUSIN, AND I AM GOING TO COPY THE BOOK, NEXT MONTH. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, I CAN SEND IT TO YOU BY E-MAIL, OR SEE IF SHE HAS IT IN THE LIBRARY. JOYCE ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [KYMUHLEN] Heltsey > Hi, > Who are you? Where are you from? I would like to know who I'm talking to. > But, my source on Nancy Jane Heltsley and Charles B. Rose is the > Heltsley/Helsley book of groupings by Brenda Collier Doss in western Ky. > Greenville library may have a copy. > I see Nancy Jane b Feb. 29, 1864 d Oct. 24, 1929 was a grandaughter of > Michael Heltsley, son of John (and Mary last name unknown), one of three sons > of Jacob, who pioneered to western Ky. around 1800. > As you say Nancy Jane married Charles B. Rose Sept. 26, 1883 in Muhlenberg > Co. > Charles b Feb. 5, 1859 in Muhlenberg to Zachariah Roes and Hannah Jones. > Nancy Jane was married a second time to Jess Rose, but no children (it said) > and no detail. > Charles and Nancy had 7 children from 1884 - 1901. They were Zella D., > Alice M., William Robert, George B., Annie B., Raymond, and Jesse. > > Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/native Muhlenberg/ > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

These were the only WOLCOTT in 1910 census WOLCOTT, NORMAN F 24 MARRIED 3 YRS KY KY KY PENNIE 21 WIFE KY KY KY JACK 2 SON JAMES F 21 MTHS SON ====== WOLCOTT, JAMES F 50 MARRIED 28 YRS KY KY KY ELIZABETH 51 WIFE KY KY KY WOLCOTT, RENA M 22 DAU WOLCOTT, FREDERICK W 16 SON NUNAN,NANNIE B 27 DAU DIVORCED KY JAMES W 6 PHILLIP W 4 WHEELDON,JAMES W 33 BROTHER IN LAW KY ======= Tamara

I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON A MALE WOLCOTT(UNSURE OF FIRST NAME) WHO MARRIED MARY ELLEN WOLFE ABOUT 1906/1907. THE HAD 4 CHILDREN I KNOW OF.. JAMES(1909-1969), CHARLES W(1910-1953) , WILLIAM JACKSON((1907-1947)AND MABEL MAE(1912-1971). MARY ELLEN WOLFE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF RHODA TAYLOR AND WILLIAM JACKSON WOLFE. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP I CAN GET. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE. MAGGIE RUSSO

Hi, Who are you? Where are you from? I would like to know who I'm talking to. But, my source on Nancy Jane Heltsley and Charles B. Rose is the Heltsley/Helsley book of groupings by Brenda Collier Doss in western Ky. Greenville library may have a copy. I see Nancy Jane b Feb. 29, 1864 d Oct. 24, 1929 was a grandaughter of Michael Heltsley, son of John (and Mary last name unknown), one of three sons of Jacob, who pioneered to western Ky. around 1800. As you say Nancy Jane married Charles B. Rose Sept. 26, 1883 in Muhlenberg Co. Charles b Feb. 5, 1859 in Muhlenberg to Zachariah Rose (typo in prev) and Hannah Jones. Nancy Jane was married a second time to Jess Rose, but no children (it said) and no detail. Charles and Nancy had 7 children from 1884 - 1901. They were Zella D., Alice M., William Robert, George B., Annie B., Raymond, and Jesse. Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/native Muhlenberg/

Hi, Who are you? Where are you from? I would like to know who I'm talking to. But, my source on Nancy Jane Heltsley and Charles B. Rose is the Heltsley/Helsley book of groupings by Brenda Collier Doss in western Ky. Greenville library may have a copy. I see Nancy Jane b Feb. 29, 1864 d Oct. 24, 1929 was a grandaughter of Michael Heltsley, son of John (and Mary last name unknown), one of three sons of Jacob, who pioneered to western Ky. around 1800. As you say Nancy Jane married Charles B. Rose Sept. 26, 1883 in Muhlenberg Co. Charles b Feb. 5, 1859 in Muhlenberg to Zachariah Roes and Hannah Jones. Nancy Jane was married a second time to Jess Rose, but no children (it said) and no detail. Charles and Nancy had 7 children from 1884 - 1901. They were Zella D., Alice M., William Robert, George B., Annie B., Raymond, and Jesse. Ernie Heltsley/Tucson/native Muhlenberg/

Searching for information on Mary Jane & Nancy Heltsey or Heltsley Married Charlie Rose (my line) Sept 1883. Any info helpful. thanks

Paulette: I don't have a book. I have Family Tree Maker's Family Archives Census Microfilm Records: Kentucky, 1850, CD #303. You either have to use Family Tree Maker and have it open when you view their CDs, or you have to buy a special CD they sell that allows you to view their CDs. I think it cost about $30.00. It's better than a book because you can view the actual census images and can decide for yourself, spellings, ages, etc. Details can be found on FTM's website, where you can also order the CD. I use mine weekly, plus other 1850 census I have purchased from them for Indiana, Illinois, and Pennsylvania. Can't wait for Missouri to be ready! Debbie [email protected] wrote: > Debbie, I saw that you have a book with detailed census information. Where > would I find this? thanks > > *paulette* in Sunny Florida > researching: Tanner-Wilkins-Newton-Glover > SC,NC,KY,MO,ILL > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Debbie, I saw that you have a book with detailed census information. Where would I find this? thanks *paulette* in Sunny Florida researching: Tanner-Wilkins-Newton-Glover SC,NC,KY,MO,ILL

Barry, here you go: District 1, page 199 Household/Family #358 Willis Harrison, 40, m, shoe maker, Tennessee Elizabeth, 35, NC, cannot read or write Andrew J., 12, m, Ky., Attended school within last year Susan C., 10, f, Ky., Attended school within last year Virgil A. S., 8, m, Ky., Attended school within last year John J., 6, m, Ky., Attended school within last year Nancy J., 3, f, Ky. Benjn F., 4/12, m. Ky. James M., 4/12, m, Ky. Hope this helps! Debbie McArdle Barry Fox wrote: > Does anyone have access to the 1850 Muhlenburg County census and not mind doing a lookup for me? I am interested in the following HARRISON household: > > Willis page 199 > > Thanks for your help. > > Barry Fox > Greenville, SC > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Does anyone have access to the 1850 Muhlenburg County census and not mind doing a lookup for me? I am interested in the following HARRISON household: Willis page 199 Thanks for your help. Barry Fox Greenville, SC

Listers...are there any others looking for information on the Tanners and Wilkins that lived (at least for a time) in Muhlenberg Co., KY? Specifically looking for information on Samuel Tanner (b. abt. 1744, Duplin Co., SC) and his children: James, Thomas, John, Nancy, Samuel Jr., Sally, Hannah, Wiley. I do have some info for this immediate family, Would like to compare notes etc. *paulette* in SunnyFlorida (steeeeamy)