In a message dated 1/4/00 10:58:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I remember when I was real young my Grandad telling about a madstone in his family. I didn't really understand what it was at the time, just knew it as an interesting story. When I was in high school in Lee County, TX in the 1950's, there was a story in the local paper about a man who had a madstone that had been passed down in his family to him. Then I realized what my Grandad was talking about. >> And a "madstone" is ... ? John