I really can't beleive someone would put such a list of humorless things on a genealogy site. I'm from Northwestern Ohio and I have alot of great family their and I'm insulted at this posting. It goes to show you how desperate some people are for attention. Get a life!!!! Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: Frank I Elam <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 8:14 PM Subject: Kentuckians > > A Kentucky State trooper pulls over a pickup truck on I-75. > He says to the driver, "Got any ID?" > The driver says, "Bout what?" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: What's long and hard on a Kentucky football player? > A: First grade! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: Did you hear about the $3,000,000 Kentucky State Lottery? > A: The winner gets $3 a year for a million years. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: Why did O. J. Simpson want to move to Eastern Kentucky? > A: Everyone has the same DNA. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: Did you hear that the governor's mansion in Frankfort, > Kentucky burned down? > A: Yep. Pert' near took out the whole trailer park. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > A new law recently passed in Eastern Kentucky: When a couple gets > divorced, they're still brother and sister. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: What's the best thing to ever come out of Kentucky? > A: I-75. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Two Kentuckians are walking down different ends of a street > toward each other, and one is carrying a sack. When they meet, > one says, "Hey Tommy Ray, what'cha got in th' bag?" > "Jus' some chickens." > "If I guesses how many they are, can I have one?" > "Shoot, ya guesses right and I'll give you both of them." > "OK. Ummmmm . . . five?" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: What do a divorce in Eastern Kentucky, a tornado in Kansas, > and a hurricane in Florida have in common? > A: Somebody's fixin' to lose them a trailer. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > A Kentuckian came home and found his house on fire, rushed next > door, telephoned the fire department and shouted, "Hurry over > here. My house is on fire!" > "OK," replied the fireman, "how do we get there?" > "Say, don't you still have those big red trucks?" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: Why do folks in Eastern Kentucky go to the movie theater in > groups of 18 or more? > A: 'Cuz 17 and under not admitted. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: What do you get when you have 32 Eastern Kentuckians in the > same room? > A: A full set of teeth. > > > >

Frank I Elam wrote: > remember everyone he is talking about his kin people too. I was borned and raised and still live in eastern kentucky and proud of it. dwight

Bill; I agreed with you on your opinion. I live in Northwestern Ohio but the most of my father's line is from Elliott and Morgan Co. and I consider the family that I have their still to really great. Thanks for your comment on the humor Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: Bill & Thelma Rice <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 8:50 PM Subject: Re: Kentuckians - Boo ! > > >> Frank I Elam Wrote": >> Subject: Kentuckians > >> A Kentucky State trooper ....<Rest Snipped> > >Frank, most of us that live here, probably didn't >find this very humorous. While you may have >meant to share a light moment, in fact, it's an unfair >and unwarranted regional stereotyping. > >Of course, we Kentuckians do have a sense of humor, >but not when it unfairly demeans those living >and those we are researching. I apologize to >the list for reacting publicly, but I'm offended... > >Dr. Bill Rice >Wolfe County >

I agree with Dr. Rice , I am apalled that anyone would consider posting such derogatory ethnic and stereotypical insults , especially on a geneology site. I think it was a stupid action taken by a selfish ignorant person and that persons name and address should be removed and forever banned from any and all geneology mailing lists. ---------- > From: Bill & Thelma Rice <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Kentuckians - Boo ! > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 8:48 PM > > > > > Frank I Elam Wrote": > > Subject: Kentuckians > > > A Kentucky State trooper ....<Rest Snipped> > > Frank, most of us that live here, probably didn't > find this very humorous. While you may have > meant to share a light moment, in fact, it's an unfair > and unwarranted regional stereotyping. > > Of course, we Kentuckians do have a sense of humor, > but not when it unfairly demeans those living > and those we are researching. I apologize to > the list for reacting publicly, but I'm offended... > > Dr. Bill Rice > Wolfe County >

> Frank I Elam Wrote": > Subject: Kentuckians > A Kentucky State trooper ....<Rest Snipped> Frank, most of us that live here, probably didn't find this very humorous. While you may have meant to share a light moment, in fact, it's an unfair and unwarranted regional stereotyping. Of course, we Kentuckians do have a sense of humor, but not when it unfairly demeans those living and those we are researching. I apologize to the list for reacting publicly, but I'm offended... Dr. Bill Rice Wolfe County

At 5:08 PM -0700 4/20/99, Frank I Elam wrote: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Q: Why did O. J. Simpson want to move to Eastern Kentucky? > A: Everyone has the same DNA. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I laughed out loud at that one. (I'm allowed, 'cuz my great-grandfather's mother was a twin sister to his wife's grandmother.) But, you know these jokes must have been written by a Hoosier. Nobody in Kentucky says "Eastern". It's East Kentucky.

A Kentucky State trooper pulls over a pickup truck on I-75. He says to the driver, "Got any ID?" The driver says, "Bout what?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Q: What's long and hard on a Kentucky football player? A: First grade! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Q: Did you hear about the $3,000,000 Kentucky State Lottery? A: The winner gets $3 a year for a million years. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Q: Why did O. J. Simpson want to move to Eastern Kentucky? A: Everyone has the same DNA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Q: Did you hear that the governor's mansion in Frankfort, Kentucky burned down? A: Yep. Pert' near took out the whole trailer park. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A new law recently passed in Eastern Kentucky: When a couple gets divorced, they're still brother and sister. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Q: What's the best thing to ever come out of Kentucky? A: I-75. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Two Kentuckians are walking down different ends of a street toward each other, and one is carrying a sack. When they meet, one says, "Hey Tommy Ray, what'cha got in th' bag?" "Jus' some chickens." "If I guesses how many they are, can I have one?" "Shoot, ya guesses right and I'll give you both of them." "OK. Ummmmm . . . five?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Q: What do a divorce in Eastern Kentucky, a tornado in Kansas, and a hurricane in Florida have in common? A: Somebody's fixin' to lose them a trailer. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A Kentuckian came home and found his house on fire, rushed next door, telephoned the fire department and shouted, "Hurry over here. My house is on fire!" "OK," replied the fireman, "how do we get there?" "Say, don't you still have those big red trucks?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Q: Why do folks in Eastern Kentucky go to the movie theater in groups of 18 or more? A: 'Cuz 17 and under not admitted. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Q: What do you get when you have 32 Eastern Kentuckians in the same room? A: A full set of teeth.

What has this got to do with Genealogy. I resent things like this on a genealogy board and it is not funny to make fun of people in KY or from KY. Maybe you should take up another hobby. Carole Bays Dayton, OH

Hi to all, I am looking for info on the Salyers Cemetery located on Prestonburg Rd. in West Liberty. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you. Carolyn

Hey it's understandable that some people are serious minded, and fail to see the humor. Frankly I see the humor, and it was a good change, just been watching the kids out in Colorado, now that's not funny. Those that are upset, think of the intent, was it really to ridicule, or was humor attempted. Reminds me, as a kid, if someone called you a Son of b_t_ch, they had better be smiling, to insure their intent. I realize that jokes can't be the main items in this list. Intent is the way to judge in my humble opinion. To stay on topic, does anyone with a cemetery of Morgan Co. have a cemetery listed at Chapel KY, in Morgan Co.? Buck

Frank and Entire Morgan List, Good grief people, lighten up!! In a world with wars, school shootings, etc., you'd think a bit of humor would help us all get through the day. I am a born and bred West Virginian, BUT, ALL of my ancestors are from Kentucky and I am VERY proud of that. We Appalachians are a very unique group of people. We are proud, intelligent, hardworking and also have hardshells. If we didn't we would never have survived this long as a culture. My grandmother was born in Morgan County. I have very close ties to Bath County, Floyd County, Greenup County and several more. I am a mile, (as the crow flies) from the Kentucky border. I have friends AND family who are just across the Big Sandy River. God knows, if anyone gets the brunt of jokes, it's West Virginia. We're barefoot, pregnant, toothless, jobless and Lord, do we love those food stamps. But if that letter had been about West Virginians rather than Kentuckians, it would have not been any less humorous. I have listened to TV (yes, and we do love those big satellite dishes to sit beside our mobile homes, too) all day long about the horror in Colorado and I found Frank's jokes to be absolutely hilarious. I don't understand you people. Anything to take our minds off worldy matters. You can surely ban Frank from the list, but throw me out too. He made my day a little brighter. I have forwarded his letter to all my friends and family (some pure bred Kentuckians.) Paula Berry Hampton West Virginia

I am not researching the McGuires either, but took a peek in my ftm file and I have a couple of McGuires that married into the family. Such as Rebecca E. McGuire born 1865 and died 1951. She is the daughter of Margaret May and Jesse J. McGuire. Rebecca married Benjamin Franklin Hamilton on October 19, 1883 in Morgan Co. Ben and Rebecca are buried in the Hamilton Cemetery (at one time known as the Ben Franklin Hamilton Cemetery) in Silverhill. I have a picture of their tombstone if anyone is interested. (For a complete listing of everyone that is buried in the Hamilton Cemetery, here is a quick link off of the Morgan Co. website. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymorgan/HamiltonCem.html">Hamilton Cemetery </A> Deanna Levito Morgan CC Surnames: Burchett, Cantrell, Fyffe, Hamilton, Keeton, Lemaster, and Pennington

Forgive the cross posting. I hope someone can help me. Lewis is not a surname for me (yet <G>) but it is a surname allied to my Browns and Van Hooses. While looking for the Bryans/Rectors/Van Hooses I found a recrod in Farquier Co Va as follows: page 204-205 PETER HITT <HITE?> (Inventory) Date: 24 September 1772 (also dated 22 Sept.) App'd by: Max'm. Berryman, Zacharias Lewis, Tilman Wever <sic> No total. Ret. 23 November 1772 Is this Zacharias the one and same progenitor of Eastern KY Lewis's? Peter Hitt is quite involved with the Rector family of the area and all are involved in the Van Hoose family so any ideas would be very welcome. Thanks!

Hello, Thanks to everyone for information. Mary age 19 maybe who I'm looking for she married George W. Hall. Their daughter Mary was born 1877 in Old Town, Greenup County and married 1895 in Carter County, Kentucky. Thank again.

what HILLS are you searching for ?i have been looking for a WILBA AUREN STIERNS HILL . born somewhere in VIRGINIA about 1830. i need anything on him or his family . can anyone help ? [email protected] ---------- > From: Laura McKenzie <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: RAMEY - HAMILTON > Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 9:11 AM > > I would too. Now I don't think my information is set in stone > by any means. Most of it came from census info but some from my > aunt going door to door in Morgan County. If I haven't shared > it with you, please let me know. > Here is the interesting part, even if we don't find a Ramey > connection, some of the Rameys were in the same area as the > Hamiltons and Hills. > As I work on the Browns and the Van Hoose/Bryans I find a > little more about the others. I'll share everything when I'm > done but right now Washington Co Va, Farquier Co Va, Scott Co > Va, old Frederick Co Va, Bedford Co Va, Russell Co Va and the > surrounding areas (that almost covers VA doesn't it? <G>) are > where I'm looking at right now. > -----Original Message----- > From: Claudia Hamilton Meyer <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:08 AM > Subject: RAMEY - HAMILTON > > > >Seeing Laura's question about RAMEY reminded me to ask if > anyone researching > >RAMEY has run across a HAMILTON connection? My great-great > grandfather was > >Richard Ramey HAMILTON, born 06 Dec 1851, son of Samuel L. > HAMILTON and > >Cynthia HILL. He married 15 Dec 1881 to Miranda S. ELAM, > daughter of James > >S. ELAM and Mary HOWERTON. With the Ramey as a middle name, > figure there > >had to be a RAMEY-HAMILTON marriage somewhere. Anybody? > > > > > > >

--part1_5b5a2c28.244cfc0a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_5b5a2c28.244cfc0a_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:23:49 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA10696; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02780; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:31:18 EDT Subject: Re: Mcquire's Old-To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: [email protected] Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/664 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Nor am I researching the McGuires, however, looked in the 1870 Morgan County census. Notice in the 1870 census #51, William H. McGuire age 43 Ky., wife George Ann 35, children listed as Mary age 19, John 14, Lucinda age 11, William H. age 8, Bernard 5 and Boon W. 1. #52 in this census is Samuel and Sarah ages 4l and 36 with family; #532 is James H. McGuire 21 and Susan 22 born Va. Don't know if these are yours. Betty McKinney --part1_5b5a2c28.244cfc0a_boundary--

Nor am I researching the McGuires, however, looked in the 1870 Morgan County census. Notice in the 1870 census #51, William H. McGuire age 43 Ky., wife George Ann 35, children listed as Mary age 19, John 14, Lucinda age 11, William H. age 8, Bernard 5 and Boon W. 1. #52 in this census is Samuel and Sarah ages 4l and 36 with family; #532 is James H. McGuire 21 and Susan 22 born Va. Don't know if these are yours. Betty McKinney

I am not researching McGUIREs. I just checked the 1850 census for you and did not see a McGUIRE family with a young daughter named Margaret or Mary. Suggest you try the 1860 census of Morgan Co. kandice wrote: > Hello, > I've just received the marriage certificate for my ggreat grandmother which > states her mother Margaret "Mary" Mcguire was born in Morgan County abt. > 1850. Is anyone on the list researching the Mcguires of Morgan County?

I would too. Now I don't think my information is set in stone by any means. Most of it came from census info but some from my aunt going door to door in Morgan County. If I haven't shared it with you, please let me know. Here is the interesting part, even if we don't find a Ramey connection, some of the Rameys were in the same area as the Hamiltons and Hills. As I work on the Browns and the Van Hoose/Bryans I find a little more about the others. I'll share everything when I'm done but right now Washington Co Va, Farquier Co Va, Scott Co Va, old Frederick Co Va, Bedford Co Va, Russell Co Va and the surrounding areas (that almost covers VA doesn't it? <G>) are where I'm looking at right now. -----Original Message----- From: Claudia Hamilton Meyer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:08 AM Subject: RAMEY - HAMILTON >Seeing Laura's question about RAMEY reminded me to ask if anyone researching >RAMEY has run across a HAMILTON connection? My great-great grandfather was >Richard Ramey HAMILTON, born 06 Dec 1851, son of Samuel L. HAMILTON and >Cynthia HILL. He married 15 Dec 1881 to Miranda S. ELAM, daughter of James >S. ELAM and Mary HOWERTON. With the Ramey as a middle name, figure there >had to be a RAMEY-HAMILTON marriage somewhere. Anybody? > > >

Hello, I've just received the marriage certificate for my ggreat grandmother which states her mother Margaret "Mary" Mcguire was born in Morgan County abt. 1850. Is anyone on the list researching the Mcguires of Morgan County?