In a message dated 7/9/99 7:39:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Vital Stats online Date: 7/9/99 7:39:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (R. A. Powers) To: [email protected] Hi Vivian, I just read your Bath Co. List message and it was really touching and informative, thanks for sharing it with everyone. My question is, where are these vital statistics online? If you could send me the web address or post it to the Bath Co. list I'd appreciate it. Thank you in advance! Becky Powers >> Becky, Thanks to you I was forced to re-visit the Vital Statistics to be more specific about what to write down on your request and Voila!! I found my GGGrandmother's DC. The reason I couldn't find it before.....I was using hr name Permelia McKenzie. I found her under Amelia McKenzie Whee!!! This is the info I will use to get this one. Date: 190501 Name: Amelia McKenzie Age: 74 Place of Death: Breathitt Co. Volume # : 031 Certificate # : 15391 Death Volume: 19 There....isn't that easy? That alone with my $ 3.00 check will get me that Death Certificate. Might as well look for several at those prices huh? Blessings! Vivian<><

In a message dated 7/9/99 7:39:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Subj: Vital Stats online Date: 7/9/99 7:39:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (R. A. Powers) To: [email protected] Hi Vivian, I just read your Bath Co. List message and it was really touching and informative, thanks for sharing it with everyone. My question is, where are these vital statistics online? If you could send me the web address or post it to the Bath Co. list I'd appreciate it. Thank you in advance! Becky Powers >> Becky, There is a page with names of people who will get those Death certificates for you after you check out the Vital Stats. online. I had been paying $ 7.00 per DC and if they just didn't try hard enpough to do the search and found nothing I was still out the $ 7.00 per DC. This lady will do them for 3.00. It took awhile but I finally got it. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygenweb/sources/vitals.html">Kentucky Links and Research Help </A> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygenweb/sources/vitals.html All you have to do is find the person you are searching for on the list then write down all the information on the list such as the persons name where they died and all the numbers that are on the list. Send to which ever one of those ladies and wait. Good Luck! Vivian <><

This is just to re-affirm what all of us have been saying and it bears repeating again for all the people who are just starting their search and find something that has been printed and assume it is the truth.. I had been trying to find out where my GGGrandfather had died and was buried. I finally did the Vital Stats online and decided the William McKenzie who died in 1916 just might be mine. I knew the McKenzies were from Morgan County and had migrated but wasn't sure where. Today I got the Death certificate. It is a Bitter Sweet revelation. See, both my GGgrandparents were born out of wedlock. William Augustus "Gus" McKenzie was the illigitimate so of Rebecca McKenzie and Thomas Ditymus Perry who already had a wife and children....some of them born at or near the time Rebecca had hers (she had 4 for Thomas) On the Death Certificate it says Williams parents are Thomas McKenzie from IRELAND and Rebecca Perry. The information was given by an adult son of theirs who was either protecting their memory or had been given false information?? How ironic that the names are just opposite of what they are supposed to be. One other thing is....someone at the clerks office might have thought someone transposed the names and decided to FIX it.?? Anyway, Please ..when you see ages on the census or a grave marker, don't just assume this is the truth. Sometimes it is a mistake. This information was given by Oscar McKenzie a 35 year old son of William "Gus" McKenzie and Permelia A. Brown. I just spoke a couple of days ago to one of Oscars sons and he didn't know about the illigitimacy of his GGrandparents either. Thanks to everyone in Morgan County who have helped me as well as the Bath Countians. By the way, for those who might be researching the same person, William was born May 26, 1848 Morgan County KY and died July 27, 1916 Jackson KY. To add further insult to injury they didn't even bother to put his place of burial on the certificate. It did say he was married so I now know that Permelia McKenzie is in Breathitt Co., Jackson KY someplace. If I find her burial I will most likely find Gus's. Vivian

Greetings to all; I recieved this e-mail yesterday. I do not know the person that they are looking for, but I was hoping that someone out there will know more.I would really like to help , if possible. Diane Montgomery-Parsons I know my english is not the best. I am looking for Glenn (Edward). I dont know, if he is still alive. He is born 1930 in Mize, it is in the nearness of West Liberty, Kentucky. He was 1953 in Schweinfurt, Germany, by the co. d. 16.Inf. Regt. His brothers name was Everett Havens (1954 Tank Co. 1st. BN 20 A/C Regt., Bayreuth) and his parents name were Leonard and Martha Havens. Maybe someone could help me to find him and send me message. My adress: Elmar Ortloff, Konrad-Wagner-Straße 22, 97526 Sennfeld, Germany (E-Mail: [email protected]). Good friends from Germany missing him and like write him a letter for the 70. Birthday. Thanks and the best wishes from Germany. Elmar

At 3:43 PM -0700 7/6/99, someone whose email comes from David L. Tucker but who signed as Lin wrote: >Where is Day's Mill, Kentucky?? My ancestors were in Floyd Co., Morgan Co., >Carter Co., and Lewis Co., Kentucky. Does anyone know where this might be >located? Lin, Day's Mill was on the Licking River, in Fleming Co., across from Bath Co., between Sherbourne and the Nicholas Co. line. I don't think it exists anymore. I have an ancestor who according to family tradition supposedly drowned there, about 1811-1819, but I can't find any documentation of that event. See: http://www.best.com/~tpettit/family/pettit/FG01/FG01_124.htm Teri Pettit

Where is Day's Mill, Kentucky?? My ancestors were in Floyd Co., Morgan Co., Carter Co., and Lewis Co., Kentucky. Does anyone know where this might be located? Thanks, Lin

Hi, Since Flora Jane was my ggrandmother I am very interested in this. I didn't know she was raised by anyone other than her parents. I will call her gr daughter today...maybe she will know. Daisi Grossman At 05:28 AM 7/6/99 EDT, you wrote: >I read with interest your reply about Martha Hall. Issac and Lucinda >Ellington Cassitty raised my Grandmother Lucy Utterback Short. I have just >recently learned that Lucy's parents were probably William H.and Rachel >Ellington Utterback. Rachel died in childbirth and Issac and Lucinda >Cassitty raised her daughter Lucinda(Lucy). Rachel and Lucinda were sisters, >I am writing without my notes but I believe that was right. I have also just >learned of the other daughter of Rachel and Wm. Utterback named Flora Jane. >We did not know that Mom's Mother had a sister. Flora Jane would have been >very young when Rachel died also and I wonder who raised her. I was glad to >get the URL for the Rowan Co. web page that includes the Cassitty's. >Geraldine Dunn > >

I read with interest your reply about Martha Hall. Issac and Lucinda Ellington Cassitty raised my Grandmother Lucy Utterback Short. I have just recently learned that Lucy's parents were probably William H.and Rachel Ellington Utterback. Rachel died in childbirth and Issac and Lucinda Cassitty raised her daughter Lucinda(Lucy). Rachel and Lucinda were sisters, I am writing without my notes but I believe that was right. I have also just learned of the other daughter of Rachel and Wm. Utterback named Flora Jane. We did not know that Mom's Mother had a sister. Flora Jane would have been very young when Rachel died also and I wonder who raised her. I was glad to get the URL for the Rowan Co. web page that includes the Cassitty's. Geraldine Dunn

Re: >Is there anyone on this list researching the HALLs of Morgan County, KY? I >would like to identify the parents of Martha Jane Hall who was born Feb 1851 >and married John William CASSITY c.1870 in Morgan County, KY. Linda, It isn't an exact fit, but I show Adeline HALL, b. ca 1848 Morgan Co, dau of Jacob HALL & Nancy BROWN, married about 29 Dec 1868 John W. CASSITY, son of Isaac E. CASSITY & Lucinda ELLINGTON. Morgan Co. marriage book A records license issued on 29 Dec 1868 for J. W. Cassity and Adeline Hall, no return. Adeline apparently died in childbirth in late 1869 or early 1870, because her husband and a 6-month-old daughter are living with her parents in the 1870 census, but she is not. Adeline had a younger sister Martha born about 1849 whom I do not show any marriage information for. Since John W. Cassity was living with the Jacob HALL family in 1870, and Martha was still single at that time, it is quite possible that he married his late wife's sister shortly after the census was taken. If so, they were probably married in Rowan County, as no marriage record exists for either name in Morgan Co. in the 1870's. All Rowan Co. marriage records for the 1870's were destroyed by fire except for a few from 1878 and 1879. 1850 Census of Morgan Co., KY, records on p. 105, family #262: Jacob Hall, 44, farmer; Nancy, 39; Isaac, 19; Mary, 17; Lucinda, 15; Elizabeth, 10; John, 8; Sarah, 5; Adeline, 2; Martha, 1. All born in KY. 1860 census of Morgan Co., KY, lists family #46: Jacob Hall, 54; Nancy, 49; John, 18; Sarrah, 17; Adaline, 12; Martha, 11; Jesse, 7; Emily, 5. All born in Kentucky. 1870 Census of Rowan Co., Ky, Pine Grove Prec., p. 7/133, family #49: Jacob Hall, 62, farmer; Nancy, 58; Martha, 21; Jesse, 16; Emily, 14; Nancy Pettit, 8; Lucinda Coggswell, 30, domestic servant; Lucinda Coggswell, 10/12, b. Aug; Wm Cassidy, 25, farm laborer; Frances Cassidy, 6/12, b. Nov. All born in KY. (The older Lucinda Cogswell is Jacob & Nancy's daughter, who married Samuel Cogswell on 1 Sep 1852. Nancy Pettit is the daughter of Benjamin Pettit and Polly Ann Hall, which would make her a granddaughter of Jacob & Nancy. Judging by the birth dates of Benjamin's children, it is likely that Polly Ann died at Nancy's birth or shortly thereafter, and Benjamin did not remarry until about 1868/69, so Jacob & Nancy raised Polly's baby. Frances Cassidy is almost certainly the daughter of Jacob and Nancy's daughter Adeline, who married John William Cassity in Dec 1868.) Is this a possible fit? What is your source for the Feb 1851 birthdate? If it is the 1900 census, the birthdates on that one are very flaky. Incidentally, I've been updating the Rowan County web site this past week, and added a list of links to family pages. Your Cassity/Cassidy Family Association page is on the list. See: http://www.best.com/~tpettit/rowan/rowanref.html about 2/3 the way down the page. (I also stole the animated "New" sticker from your page, hope you don't mind. I figured it was probably clip art that you found somewhere.) // Teri Pettit

Is there anyone on this list researching the HALLs of Morgan County, KY? I would like to identify the parents of Martha Jane Hall who was born Feb 1851 and married John William CASSITY c.1870 in Morgan County, KY. Linda View my online genealogy database at: http://www.gendex.com/users/LCL4/madkat/ancestor.html Enter Ethereal's Realm at: http://www.in-motion.net/~oneofus Ethereal's Bookshop is open. Purchase books, music, movies from Amazon.com: http://www.in-motion.net/~oneofus/fbookshp.html

Hope each of you have a wonderful, safe, fun-filled Fourth of July!! HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!!!! Ann Morgan County Listowner

Same to you Thanks for the list -----Original Message----- From: Ann Lemaster- Applegate <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 3:08 PM Subject: Happy 4th >Hope each of you have a wonderful, safe, fun-filled Fourth of July!! >HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!!!!!! > >Ann >Morgan County Listowner >

And to you the same. thank you. Joye

Mary, I have John and Squire listed in the 1840 Census. I havent looked up Jacop or Peter. I dont live close by a Federal Bldg. any more to search the census. Our Lewis family first came from Tazwell Co. Va, before going to Kty. Harmon who is Squire's brother is my great-great grandfather, they moved to Morgan Co. and purchased land there. If you have anything that would help me, I would appreciate it. Thank You Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Lewis Family >Hi Kathleen, if you can give me some dates I will see if I have them on any >of my census. >Mary >[email protected] > >

Harmon Lewis who is a brother to Squire is my great grandfather. I've been looking for thier parents. Its been said in the family it was John Lewis. There was a John Lewis and Squire in Floyd Co. in the Daniel's Creek area. My mom remembers the family talking about a Jacop also. There was a Jacop in Daniel's Creek. I found a John, Squire and Pete owning land together in Daniel's Creek. I don't know who Peter is either, maybe another brother. I know who Squire married, Kathleen Sullivan and have that info. What info do you have on Squire? Thanks for your response Kathleen Noah -----Original Message----- From: Samone <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Lewis Family >I have a small amount of info on Squire Lewis and his family. Maybe I can >help. Samone > >---------- >> From: John and Kathy Noah <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Lewis Family >> Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 9:47 PM >> >> Does anyone know if any Lewis's live in Banner (Daniel's Creek)? I'm >searching a Jacop Lewis, Squire Lewis, Peter Lewis and John Lewis. If >anyone has any info I would appreciate feed back >> >> Thank You, >> Kathleen Noah >> oah > >

Thanks Teri! I was sure that someone would bail us out on this one. Being in Fairborn, I don't get down home as often as I should so I can only offer what is in front of me in the way of books and maps. Please let us know if that helps Diane. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Teri Pettit <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 7:53 PM Subject: Nickell Cemetery on Nickell Fork >In response to a query from Diane Parsons <[email protected]>: >>We went to Morgan County >>today, searching for the cemetery in the Grassy Creek Area. Unfortunately, >>after much searching, we were unable to locate the cemetery where John C. >>& Nancy are buried. We did find two cemeteries, but not the correct one. > >Jim Ferguson replied: >>The only information I have on the Nickell Cemetery says it is located on >>Nickell Fork of Grassy Creek about 1/2 mile east of Hwy 205. My Morgan >>County map seems to contradict those directions because it shows Nickell >>Fork to be west of Hwy 205. This map can be found at >> >>http://ukcc.uky.edu/~maps/ > >I bet the directions should be "1/2 mile east of Hwy 203". On the map that >Jim linked to, set the scrollbars to about 1/3 horizontal and about 5/8 >vertical. On state 203, at the Consolation Mission Church, you will see >a road called "Nickell Fork", running southeast along a waterway by the >same name. After about 1 mile, the road splits into Byrd Road and >Daysboro Road. On the Daysboro Road portion are two cemetery markers. > >Of course, those might be the two cemeteries that Diane found, in which >case maybe the stones for John C. and Nancy Ferguson are missing. But >this Nickell Fork is not real close to Grassy Creek (about 5 miles >southwest), so she may have not been looking in that area. > >

In response to a query from Diane Parsons <[email protected]>: >We went to Morgan County >today, searching for the cemetery in the Grassy Creek Area. Unfortunately, >after much searching, we were unable to locate the cemetery where John C. >& Nancy are buried. We did find two cemeteries, but not the correct one. Jim Ferguson replied: >The only information I have on the Nickell Cemetery says it is located on >Nickell Fork of Grassy Creek about 1/2 mile east of Hwy 205. My Morgan >County map seems to contradict those directions because it shows Nickell >Fork to be west of Hwy 205. This map can be found at > >http://ukcc.uky.edu/~maps/ I bet the directions should be "1/2 mile east of Hwy 203". On the map that Jim linked to, set the scrollbars to about 1/3 horizontal and about 5/8 vertical. On state 203, at the Consolation Mission Church, you will see a road called "Nickell Fork", running southeast along a waterway by the same name. After about 1 mile, the road splits into Byrd Road and Daysboro Road. On the Daysboro Road portion are two cemetery markers. Of course, those might be the two cemeteries that Diane found, in which case maybe the stones for John C. and Nancy Ferguson are missing. But this Nickell Fork is not real close to Grassy Creek (about 5 miles southwest), so she may have not been looking in that area.

Diane, The only information I have on the Nickell Cemetery says it is located on Nickell Fork of Grassy Creek about 1/2 mile east of Hwy 205. My Morgan County map seems to contradict those directions because it shows Nickell Fork to be west of Hwy 205. This map can be found at http://ukcc.uky.edu/~maps/ The map shows a lot of cemeteries as well as churches and other landmarks. Sorry I can't help you more than that but maybe some of the other folks out there have a more exact location. Good Luck, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Diane & Danny Parsons <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 9:26 PM Subject: Re: W. I. Ferguson Cemetery >Jim, > First off, thank you so much for responding ! We went to Morgan County >today, searching for the cemetery in the Grassy Creek Area. Unfortunely, >after much searching, we were unable to locate the cemetery where John C. >& Nancy are buried.We did find two cemeteries, but not the correct one. > Is it possible to give us more detailed directions?? We would really >appreciate it. > We are planning a return visit to Morgan County soon, to search >some more. ( We live in Lexington ) >Diane > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jim Ferguson <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 10:00 AM >Subject: Re: W. I. Ferguson Cemetery > > >Diane, > >Hope this helps. > >W. I. Ferguson b 1855 d 1937 husband of Mary is buried in Ferguson Cemetery >which is located on a point overlooking Pasture Branch near Crockett, KY. > >I also show John C. and Nancy Ferguson being buried in the Nickell Cemetery >on the Nickell Fork of Grassy Creek just east of Hwy 205. I don't have a >listing for your Lula, Willie or Sam nor do I show any Havens or Van Cleves >being buried in the W. I. Ferguson Cemetery but my data is not complete. > >Let me know if you need further directions to these cemeteries. > >Jim Ferguson > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Diane & Danny Parsons <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 8:20 PM >Subject: W. I. Ferguson Cemetery > > >>Hello >> >>We are looking for the W. I. Ferguson Cemetery in hopes of finding the >gravesites of my ggrandmother Lula F Ferguson. She was born March 1886 the >daughter of John C Ferguson and Nancy Carolina Nickels. She was married to >William B "Willie" Havens and Sam VanCleve. The tombstone probably states >"Lula Van Cleve". Any information about any of the above listed people >would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Thanks >> >>Diane >>[email protected] >>http://members.xoom.com/Diane_Dan >> >>iane_Dan >> >> > > > >

I have a small amount of info on Squire Lewis and his family. Maybe I can help. Samone ---------- > From: John and Kathy Noah <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Lewis Family > Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 9:47 PM > > Does anyone know if any Lewis's live in Banner (Daniel's Creek)? I'm searching a Jacop Lewis, Squire Lewis, Peter Lewis and John Lewis. If anyone has any info I would appreciate feed back > > Thank You, > Kathleen Noah > oah

Hi Kathleen, if you can give me some dates I will see if I have them on any of my census. Mary [email protected]