Looking for any info on one of John Harvey Gray and Margaret Hopkins daughter: Katty born AUG-1884 in Myers Nicholas County, KY Found here on sensus of Ohio County, KY She was living with a family John Bluckerburger list as a cousin. She was 16 years old. Port of Cromawall house 242 family 261. Thank for your time and trouble. Jim Gray

Researching my ancestors: I am still looking for the WOOLS family prior to the 1788 Tax List. Christopher WOOLS b: abt 1746 - where? d: Jan 1801 Montgomery Co., KY buried: ? Wife - Elizabeth ? b: abt 1750 d: 16 Aug 1814 Montgomery Co., KY buried? and children: Catherine - b Abt 1773 VA (Raised nephew John) d: Nov 1844 Montgomery Co., KY buried? Phillip - b Abt 1777 ?? m:Hannah Wagle(Weagle) d: 9 Mar 1819 Wayne Co, IN buried: ? Susanne b: Abt 1778 VA? m: John Smith d: Abt 1841 ? buried: ?? Daniel b: 4 Sept 1779 VA? (my line) m: Elizabeth V. Butt d: 8 Jun 1862 Posey Twp, Clay Co, Indiana buried: Summit Lawn Cem - Clay Co, Indiana Margaret "Peggy" b: 4 Sep 1779 VA ? had child John Nov 1814 d: 2 Dec 1816 Montgomery Co., Kentucky buried: ?? Nancy b: Abt 1781 d: Bef: 1835 Montgomery Co., Kentucky buried: ?? Thanks, Carol Wools Blacketer Surprise, AZ

Does anybody have access to - or a printed copy of - the tax lists for Montgomery Co. from 1813-1818? I found my Josiah Bryant on the tax list in 1803, 1810 and 1812 but the film I was looking at only went through 1812. In 1818 Josiah is in Floyd Co. I would like to know if he is on any of the other tax lists in Montgomery Co. I would also like to know if Gabriel Bryant appears on the tax lists during that time (1813-1818). Gabriel is Josiah's son and they are both on the 1820 census in Floyd Co. Josiah is on the 1810 census in Montgomery Co. but there are two children listed with him I cannot identify. On the 1810 tax list it shows two male adults living in Josiah's residence. I can't identify the other adult either. The tax list was made in April. Does anybody know what the enumeration date was for the census? Thanks, Marsha DeepRoots@sisna.com

Lee: I'll get the group sheets in the mail in the next day or two. I've never seen any evidence of a twin sister for Thamer or Tamer. I think both names refer to same person. I had contact with a Smith family member at one time, but no longer hear from him, but it was not Allen T Smith. Madison Stevens is the proper name as I saw it in several deeds in Walker Co, TX. Mary Zelo Zasco has had her name butchered all to pieces at one time or another. Family legend has it this was name of a Russian entertainer that they took a liking to and gave the name to their daughter. Andrew J Stevens did go by the name of Jack. I have seen the transcription of old William Calk's diary and would like to have a copy of your book. Thanks. Paul Dafft

You must have read some other persons submital. I don't know this person and don;t think I am related. Sorry, but thinks for the try. Paul

Hi Paul - You wrote on the Montgomery Co, KY List: >Lee - Elizabeth Stevens married Eward T Freeman 4 Oct 1809 in Madison Co, >KY and I do have the info on all 10 of their children. They moved to >Greene Co, AL, Noxubee Co, MS, Union Psh, La and then to Sevier (now >Little River) Co, AR, where they died. Their dau Sophia is my Great >Grandmother. Elizabeth Calk Stevens apparently died in Greene Co, AL and >old Thomas then came to Shelby Co, TN and from there went to Texas in >1834 where he died about 1842.Send me your snail mail address and I will >send you some group sheets. I use an old family tree program and can't >foward it. I could probably read your data, but maybe not. Anyway, my address is below. >Tamer Stevens, born 18 Jun 1798, Madison Co, KY, died 24 Sep 1853, Walker >Co, TX Tamer apparently had a twin sister. I have no further information on her although I suspect she may have died young since she is not noted on other lists of Thomas & Elizabeth's children. This is according to information I got from Allen T. Smith of El Paso, TX in July 1994. He is the G-GS of Tamer and was born in 1919. I have had no further contact with him, so I do not know if he is still living there. >Madison V Stevens, born c1808 KY, died c1845 Walker Co, TX I believe I have him as Matthew instead of Madison. This also according to Allen Smith. He show no other information than the name. >Mary Zelo Zasko Stevens, born 11 Aug 1811 Montg Co, KY, died 26 Apr 1894, >Walker Co, TX Allen Smith has her third name as Zarco instead of Zasko. Obviously one is wrong -- probably a mis-reading of a hand-written entry. The name appears to be of easter European origin and what little I know of those names leads me to think Zasko would be the correct spelling. >Joseph B Stevens, born 3 Apr 1813, died c1889 Little River Co., AR By process of elimination, I believe this is who Allen Smith has as Jack. Joseph is probably from the Steven's side as the name does not appear in Elizabeth's ancestry -- either Calk or Catlett. Again I suspect a misreading somewhere, and since his brother Andrew's middle name is Jackson, my guess is that Allen's data is in error here. >Andrew Jackson Stevens, born c1817 KY, died c1876 Grimes Co, TX Considering the above comments in relation to Joseph, would Andrew's nickname have been Jack? Thanks for the data, it fills in a lot of holes. I'll be glad to get anything further you may have. If I can help in any way, let me know. Incidentally, I just published for our local Montgomery County Historical Society a small book that contains various document about the county and has a transcription of William Calk's Journal of his travels in 1775 from Virginia to Montgomery County. The Society is using this as a part of its fund-raising for its museum project. If you like, I can get a copy for you. Regards - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lee H. Hoffman e-mail: lhoffman@acm.org 410 Nevada Ave Phone: (859) 498-3192 Mt. Sterling, KY 40353-1036 website: <http://www.tmgtips.com/lhoffman> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Mike, I'll do just that. Thanks for the lead! Bob In a message dated 8/27/2006 10:18:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Mmikedean1@aol.com writes: I'm almost certain that if you look into Harrison Co., In (Corydon) you will find more on the Strange family in the early 1800's

Bob, Thanks for your speedy response and family info. I find that I don't seem to have anything in my files on the Strange/Payne family at this time. I've researched many counties and branches over the years. I'm almost certain that if you look into Harrison Co., In (Corydon) you will find more on the Strange family in the early 1800's. Good luck in your research. Mike

----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Barringer To: Charles Buckles Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Payne/Turley Hi, My great grandfather was Willis Franklin Payne, son of William Whitehead Payne and Elizabeth Turley (daughter of David Turley) and sister of your Elizabeth Addison Payne. I do not know who William Whitehead Payne's father was. I know they moved to Kentucky from Viriginia when he was about 4 years old. My great grandfather (Willis Franklin) moved to Mt. Pulaski, IL area after the civil war, married and raised his family in that are. I have also been in contact with Francis Payne, whose great grandfather was Moses Payne (married Sarah Ann Buckles), another of the siblings of Louisa and Willis Franklin. Mary Payne Barringer

Hi Mike, I don't have much of anything on the Payne line, as yet, since it is a small branch of my Strange family line, but here is what I have: Stephen Strange, Sr. (b. Bet. 1760 - 1769 in Halifax Co., Virginia; d. 17 May 1817 in Montgomery Co., Kentucky) married Anna Crook (b. Abt. 1770 in Virginia Colony; d. 11 Aug 1830 in Hendricks Co., Indiana {where I live now} on 11 Jan 1791 in Madison Co.,Virginia (now Kentucky). They had nine children (Mary Polly Strange, William Strange, John Strange, Sr., Absolom Strange, Edward Strange, Hezekiah Strange, Elizabeth Crook Strange, Sarah "Sallie" Strange and Thomas Strange). Mary Polly Strange (b. 11 Oct 1791 in Montgomery Co., Kentucky; d. unknown in Hendricks Co., Indiana) married Thomas Hardwick, Jr. (b. Abt. 1775 in Virginia Colony; d. Bet. 1847 - 1848 in Hadley, Hendricks Co., Indiana) on Abt. 1808 in Montgomery Co., Kentucky. They had at least four children (Anne Hardwick, John Wesley Hardwick, James Hardwick and Lucinda Hardwick). Anne Hardwick (b. 03 Mar 1809; d. 28 Jun 1853) married Simeon Rice Payne. They had at least two children (Sarah Jane Payne and Mary Ann Payne). I'm afraid that is all I have on the Payne family. As you can see, they are way out on a small branch from my main Strange family line, so I haven't chased down their info as yet. I don't have any birth dates or places for any of them. Wish I could have been of more help. Bob in Indiana In a message dated 8/25/2006 8:29:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Mmikedean1@aol.com writes: To the two ladies recently discussing their Payne family connections and especially the lady talking about her Strange family connections; I am a Payne family researcher and would love to see any info you may have on the Paynes of PA, OH, KY, Harrison Co., In. I have collected quite a bit of info on the branch descending from Samuel Payne b. abt 1745 in PA and his wife Mary Stillwell. There son Jonathan b. 1770 m. Elizabeth Wright abt 1798 had a son William b. 1803 who married Amma Beem in Owen Co., Indiana in 1826. They then had seven daughters and one son. The best information I have is that this male line died out over the next 100 years. Fortunately my Dean line intermarried with them three times. If interested please write soon, as I am about to leave my computer for about a month. More than happy to exchange any info I have. Looking forward to hearing from you. Mike

To the two ladies recently discussing their Payne family connections and especially the lady talking about her Strange family connections; I am a Payne family researcher and would love to see any info you may have on the Paynes of PA, OH, KY, Harrison Co., In. I have collected quite a bit of info on the branch descending from Samuel Payne b. abt 1745 in PA and his wife Mary Stillwell. There son Jonathan b. 1770 m. Elizabeth Wright abt 1798 had a son William b. 1803 who married Amma Beem in Owen Co., Indiana in 1826. They then had seven daughters and one son. The best information I have is that this male line died out over the next 100 years. Fortunately my Dean line intermarried with them three times. If interested please write soon, as I am about to leave my computer for about a month. More than happy to exchange any info I have. Looking forward to hearing from you. Mike

Thank for your reply. It is always fun to add new info. Katy

In a message dated 8/24/2006 12:31:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, katy_mann@hotmail.com writes: Is your Anne Hardwick related to my gggg grandmother Anna HARDWICK Anderson, b 7 Oct 1785, married to Nimrod Anderson, living in Montgomery County, KY. Katy They are probably related, but I haven't searched that line since it was a distant branch to my main one that I have been tracing. I have gone as far as I can, it seems, with my main Strange family line, so I need to start working on the various branches.

I have a Simeon Rice Payne (b. early 1800s) and his daughters, Sarah Jane and Mary Ann. My connection is slight, by way of his wife, Anne Hardwick (b. March 3, 1809; d. June 28, 1853). I probably don't have much to help anyone with. My main connection is the Strange family.

Is your Anne Hardwick related to my gggg grandmother Anna HARDWICK Anderson, b 7 Oct 1785, married to Nimrod Anderson, living in Montgomery County, KY. Katy

I am looking for information on ancestors of: William Whitehead Payne All Paynes, Turley, Kelsey, Kirby families. Mary Payne Barriner e-mail: marpaybar

the Turley, Payne lines are mine as well. My connection is Louisa Addison Payne and her mother was Elizabeth Turley. Let's connect our info. Charlie(Charlotte) Buckles >From: "Mary Barringer" <marpaybar@springnet1.com> >Reply-To: KYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Payne, Turley, Kirby, Kelsey ancestors >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:21:10 -0500 > >I am looking for information on ancestors of: > >William Whitehead Payne > >All Paynes, Turley, Kelsey, Kirby families. > >Mary Payne Barriner >e-mail: marpaybar > > >==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== >Post the Bible records of your Montgomery County, Kentucky ancestors (and >surrounding areas). Our ancestors moved around the counties much like we >do today, only taking a slower method - covered wagons & horses. >

Lee - Elizabeth Stevens married Eward T Freeman 4 Oct 1809 in Madison Co, KY and I do have the info on all 10 of their children. They moved to Greene Co, AL, Noxubee Co, MS, Union Psh, La and then to Sevier (now Little River) Co, AR, where they died. Their dau Sophia is my Great Grandmother. Elizabeth Calk Stevens apparently died in Greene Co, AL and old Thomas then came to Shelby Co, TN and from there went to Texas in 1834 where he died about 1842.Send me your snail mail address and I will send you some group sheets. I use an old family tree program and can't foward it. Thomas Stevens, born c1762, Albemarle Co, VA, died c1842, San Jacinto Co, TX Elizabeth Calk Stevens, born c1770 Pr Wm Co, Va, died before 1830, Greene Co, AL Elizabeth Stevens, born c1787 in KY, died 19 Sep 1866, Sevier Co, AR Sarah Stevens, born c1788 in KY, died (Unknown) md Philip Williams Tamer Stevens, born 18 Jun 1798, Madison Co, KY, died 24 Sep 1853, Walker Co, TX William C Stevens, born 1 Jul 1800 Madison Co, died before 1880 Madison Co, AR Thomas C Stevens,. born c1802 in KY, died 9 Aug 1891, Wichita Co, TX Fidel;ia Stevens, born 12 May 1805, died 11 Feb 1875, Shelby Co, TN Madison V Stevens, born c1808 KY, died c1845 Walker Co, TX Mary Zelo Zasko Stevens, born 11 Aug 1811 Montg Co, KY, died 26 Apr 1894, Walker Co, TX Paarthena Stevens, born c1791 in KY, died c1858 in Montg Co, KY Joseph B Stevens, born 3 Apr 1813, died c1889 Little River Co., AR Andrew Jackson Stevens, born c1817 KY, died c1876 Grimes Co, TX Paul R. DAFFT (PDafft@Juno.Com) Carrollton (Dallas Co.),Texas, USA 75006-3856

Paul R Dafft wrote: >I am kin to old William Calk whose dau Elizabeth married old Thomas >Stevens about 1787. Thomas Stevens removed from Montgomery/Madison >Counties about 1815 & came to Greene Co, AL and from there he went to >Shelby Co, TN and from there to Spanish Texas in 1834. Thomas Steven's >daughter Elizabeth married Edward Freeman whose family was from Madison >Co, KY (Samuel) Freeman. Thomas & Elizabeth are my 3rd great >grandparents. I did a lot of research back in the pen & pencil days & >just signed up to see what was happening on the internet. How are you descended from Edward & Elizabeth? I have that they married in 1809, but that is all I have. Also, do you have birth dates for Elizabeth Stevens and her siblings. I have Tamer b. 18 Jun 1787 and Thamer b, 18 Jun 1798, but nothing for any of the other ten. Most of my interest in the Calk line is collateral due to intermarriages between the Calk, Catlett, and the Orear/O'Rear lines. I have quite a bit on the Orears and some on the Catletts. Lee Hoffman/KY TMG Tips: <http://www.tmgtips.com> My website: <http://www.tmgtips.com/lhoffman> A user of the best genealogy program, The Master Genealogist (TMG)

Robbintina: I am kin to old William Calk whose dau Elizabeth married old Thomas Stevens about 1787. Thomas Stevens removed from Montgomery/Madison Counties about 1815 & came to Greene Co, AL and from there he went to Shelby Co, TN and from there to Spanish Texas in 1834. Thomas Steven's daughter Elizabeth married Edward Freeman whose family was from Madison Co, KY (Samuel) Freeman. Thomas & Elizabeth are my 3rd great grandparents. I did a lot of research back in the pen & pencil days & just signed up to see what was happening on the internet. Paul Dafft On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:30:36 -0500 Robbintina <redbird@interaccess.com> writes: > Welcome to the Montgomery County KY list! Which families family are > you > researching in the Montgomery County area? It would be wonderful if > you > would post to the list the information you are seeking and the > family names > you are researching in the area. There are about 180 list members > on the > Montgomery County KY List, many are "lurkers" and email answers > privately, > but the list goes in cycles. Some weeks it is inactive, then the > pace > picks up and quite a few people post queries and responses. Looking > > forward to seeing your queries on the list! > Use KYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com to post to the list. > > Robbintina Kellum Harrison > 1500 63rd St., Downers Grove IL 60516 > Home: 630-434-9753 Cell: 630-207-8602 > Researching my ancestors: > Maternal: DENISON, MORROW, FULTON, ALLEN, STOKLEY, > YOCUM, WHEATLEY, RENICK, SPARKS, COLLINS, GASPER, > GLOVER, HARNESS, WILLOUGHBY, WELTON, LACEY > Paternal: KELLAM, GAMBRALL, WILLIAMS, ATKINS, HARGROVE, > CRAWFORD, CARR, TANDY, DIX, CAMPBELL, LAMBERT, FULLER > BUSH, PICKWORTH, GORBALL, GOODALE, CAVIN > List Admin for: Montgomery Co KY, Robertson Co KY, > Kellam, Stokely, Herringshaw, & Renick. > > > > Paul R. DAFFT (PDafft@Juno.Com) Carrollton (Dallas Co.),Texas, USA 75006-3856