YOU'RE WELCOME!! Please feel free to pass the information along to where ever you think it might be useful. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Jeannie Dalrymple <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: RE: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: Service Records >THANK YOU!... Now if you don't mind I would love to pass this information >on to other lists. Jeannie <>< list mom > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nancy [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:39 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: Service Records > >Hello List > >My husband just returned from American Legion National Headquarters >and brought with him the following information. > >"The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is the >official depository for records of military personnel separated from >the U.S. Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and Navy. These >records are housed in two locations: The National Archives and Records >Administration, Military Archives Division, Washington, DC 20408, and >The National Personnel Records Center, St. Louis Missouri." > >The specific addresses are: > >Records relating to volunteer soldiers (1775-1902) >National Archives and Records Administration >Washington, DC > >After 1902, or 20th and 21st century: > >U. S. Navy, Coast Guard & Marine Corps >Navy Liaison >Room 5409 >9700 Page Ave. >St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 > >U. S. Army >APERCEN >9700 Page Ave. >St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5200 > >U. S. Air Force >Military Personnel Records >St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 > >For Merchant Marine: >Office of Maritime Labor & Training >Maritime Administration >Room 7302, MAR 250 >Department of Transportation >Washington, DC 20590 > >The information also states that you must be "next of kin" in order to >obtain records. I am sure in the case of historic or genealogical >documents they will let you know what that would involve. Help this >helps. > >Regards >Nancy English Heil >[email protected] > > > > >==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== >shh, be verrrry quiet.......I am hunting forebears. > > > >==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== >shh, be verrrry quiet.......I am hunting forebears. > >

http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/usa.html This is a GREAT place to play and to submit information... Jeannie <>< list mom

THANK YOU!... Now if you don't mind I would love to pass this information on to other lists. Jeannie <>< list mom -----Original Message----- From: Nancy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: Service Records Hello List My husband just returned from American Legion National Headquarters and brought with him the following information. "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is the official depository for records of military personnel separated from the U.S. Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and Navy. These records are housed in two locations: The National Archives and Records Administration, Military Archives Division, Washington, DC 20408, and The National Personnel Records Center, St. Louis Missouri." The specific addresses are: Records relating to volunteer soldiers (1775-1902) National Archives and Records Administration Washington, DC After 1902, or 20th and 21st century: U. S. Navy, Coast Guard & Marine Corps Navy Liaison Room 5409 9700 Page Ave. St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 U. S. Army APERCEN 9700 Page Ave. St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5200 U. S. Air Force Military Personnel Records St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 For Merchant Marine: Office of Maritime Labor & Training Maritime Administration Room 7302, MAR 250 Department of Transportation Washington, DC 20590 The information also states that you must be "next of kin" in order to obtain records. I am sure in the case of historic or genealogical documents they will let you know what that would involve. Help this helps. Regards Nancy English Heil [email protected] ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== shh, be verrrry quiet.......I am hunting forebears.

I went to Indiana yesterday and was taking pictures of graves. My grandpa's brother died in France in WW #1. They have a big memorial in the front of the cemetery to honor all the boys who died in that area but back where his family was buried was a Tombstone for him and on the Tombstone was his serial number. ~ Janeen Davis Proctor ~

Hello List My husband just returned from American Legion National Headquarters and brought with him the following information. "The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) is the official depository for records of military personnel separated from the U.S. Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marine Corps and Navy. These records are housed in two locations: The National Archives and Records Administration, Military Archives Division, Washington, DC 20408, and The National Personnel Records Center, St. Louis Missouri." The specific addresses are: Records relating to volunteer soldiers (1775-1902) National Archives and Records Administration Washington, DC After 1902, or 20th and 21st century: U. S. Navy, Coast Guard & Marine Corps Navy Liaison Room 5409 9700 Page Ave. St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 U. S. Army APERCEN 9700 Page Ave. St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5200 U. S. Air Force Military Personnel Records St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 For Merchant Marine: Office of Maritime Labor & Training Maritime Administration Room 7302, MAR 250 Department of Transportation Washington, DC 20590 The information also states that you must be "next of kin" in order to obtain records. I am sure in the case of historic or genealogical documents they will let you know what that would involve. Help this helps. Regards Nancy English Heil [email protected]

Genealogist's Dilemma While looking up my family tree, a horrid sight I there did see. This horse thief stared right down at me. I turned around and tried to flee. Please stop, he called, I'm Great-Gramp Bob and horses just my sideline job. Don't be too quick to be a snob, With the elite I did hobnob. Please do not hide this sad research. I was a pillar of the church. Until I did our name besmirch, and toppled from my lofty perch. For if my acts do you displease, Before you cheer my obsequies. Search your own life for errors please And any deeds that smell like cheese. The acts that you perform today, Will they look white or dapple-grey. And in the future will they say, Oh no, I have his DNA !

Jeannie, On the subject of Immigration and passenger lists, you may need to know this: The microfilm index file of passenger lists of vessels arriving in New York between 1820 and 1897, does not include all records available on the film of ship manifests. I was searching at NARA for my great grandfather's arrival in 1871 but his vessel (the Bark Gauss from Bremen, arr. NYC 30 Dec 1871) was not listed. Had he not been a Pollack from Prussia, listed in the "Germans to America" books, I would have had to go through the rolls one by one. My search included arrivals in Boston, Baltimore, Philadelphia as well as New York. These are the NARA numbers for the microfilms. Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels arriving at [Baltimore (1832-1866, City Lists), M326; (1832-1866, Federal Lists), M327], [Philadelphia (1808-1906), M360], [Boston (1848-1891), M265]. Passenger lists themselves: [New York (1820-1897 Unindexed), M237], [New York (Indexed) T275 & M1464] I think, [Baltimore, (1820-1891), M255]. Chuck

Hi there, your scorching welcome is well taken, at my age I just want to do what I can for my kids to understand the failings and success's of their forefathers. I grew up in a society that has had HOOF IN MOUTH problems for years, I'm as guilty as the next guy. I want see the Rush Limbaugh's of the world change or ship them all off to a Island to enjoy one another. I think most of my ancestors made a sojourn through Kentucky before coming to Butler County, Missouri. "The Gateway to the Ozarks". I'm hunting the Robert Montgomery's in my direct linage. My GGrandfather was Levi Montgomery his father was Robert Montgomery and his was Robert Montgomery, and his was Robert Montgomery ca. 1690 his father was b. in Ireland as James Montgomery. I have read many account of this line. A lot of secondary information has been produced on Robert no 2. I have some old booklets that indicate this guy Lived in Virginia, Kentucky and perhaps Orange County, Indiana His wife was Ester Montgomery of Botetout County ,Virginia, her father was John Montgomery. That's correct they were kissing cousins. I hope some of you kind folks have something of sound proof to help me get in good with my peers. Thanks loads on any account. Bill Beck.

A George Swope family was present in Montgomery county KY during the 1810 census. Need George's wife and children names. Thanks; James N. Swope

james maxwell and elizabeth payton married in mont. co. late 1840's. their children: roan,barbara, twins, uriah and hezakiah born there. james owned 400 acres of land. they left for mo. in late 1850's. looking for any reference to them. i have a copy of the 1850 census. kathleen

Thank you Nancy, this is sure interesting and I will pass this on to the other lists too... Jeannie <>< list mom -----Original Message----- From: Nancy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] RE: Veterans Service Records Hello List, I hope I can be of some help here. It is my understanding that the records that were burned were the originial records, but they had all been put on microfilm before the fire and that is what they have recently discovered. My husband and I are active in the American Legion and VFW and both organizations have a service officer who should be able to put you in touch with your local Veterans Admin. Service Officer. In order to join the Legion or VFW you are required to have a DD214 which is your separation papers from the service and these veterans officers are able to get them for us all of the time. These papers would contain the service number as well as other service related information. If you have, or can get, the social security number it would be helpful because that is a part of their records. If there is any thing else that we can do to be of help, please let me know. Nancy English Heil [email protected] ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to [email protected] or [email protected] with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe.

This was posted to one of my lists this am, there has been a discussion on how to obtain a service record from WW2 with out knowing the # etc... also we were discussing the files from the St. Louis Archives. It needs to be passed on.. thanks Jeannie <>< list mom Hello List, I hope I can be of some help here. It is my understanding that the records that were burned were the originial records, but they had all been put on microfilm before the fire and that is what they have recently discovered. My husband and I are active in the American Legion and VFW and both organizations have a service officer who should be able to put you in touch with your local Veterans Admin. Service Officer. In order to join the Legion or VFW you are required to have a DD214 which is your separation papers from the service and these veterans officers are able to get them for us all of the time. These papers would contain the service number as well as other service related information. If you have, or can get, the social security number it would be helpful because that is a part of their records. If there is any thing else that we can do to be of help, please let me know. Nancy English Heil

Hello List, I hope I can be of some help here. It is my understanding that the records that were burned were the originial records, but they had all been put on microfilm before the fire and that is what they have recently discovered. My husband and I are active in the American Legion and VFW and both organizations have a service officer who should be able to put you in touch with your local Veterans Admin. Service Officer. In order to join the Legion or VFW you are required to have a DD214 which is your separation papers from the service and these veterans officers are able to get them for us all of the time. These papers would contain the service number as well as other service related information. If you have, or can get, the social security number it would be helpful because that is a part of their records. If there is any thing else that we can do to be of help, please let me know. Nancy English Heil [email protected]

The New York City passenger lists have been filmed for these time periods: Soundex for alien passenger arrivals from 7/1/1902 to 6/30/1948 Soundex to passenger arrivals, 1944-1948 Contrary to what nearly all of us have been told, the passenger list information was not initiated at the port of entry, but was paper-work done at the port they sailed from in Europe. It's a myth, by and large, that officials at Ellis Island changed spellings and/or names. Seems it would be possible also to go for the naturalization records which would give tremendous information in this time period. I've pasted the following information from the Immigration and Naturalization Service web page: Naturalization Certificate Files (C-Files) INS naturalization certificate files, known as C-Files, include a duplicate copy of all naturalization records dated after September 26, 1906. All C-Files contain at least a copy of the Declaration of Intention (184k) to become a US Citizen (to 1952), Petition for Naturalization (279k), and Certificate of Naturalization (223k). Occasional files contain additional documents or correspondence. C-Files include all US naturalizations from all States and Territories, and from all courts (Federal, State, and local). INS maintains an index to the C-Files, and can retrieve individual records based on name, date of birth, and place of birth. C-Files from 1906 to 1956 have been microfilmed, and are available via Freedom of Information/Privacy Act request to INS Headquarters in Washington, D.C. For naturalization records after 1956, Freedom of Information requests should be sent to the appropriate INS District Office.

THAT'S the one I was trying to think of the other day and couldn't... thanks ... jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:38 AM To: KYMONTGO[email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: KYMONTGO-D Digest V01 #83 The person looking for a relative's service records might try www.nara.gov/ This site lists all kinds of records, including service records. Nola Thacker Austin, TX ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== shh, be verrrry quiet.......I am hunting forebears.

The person looking for a relative's service records might try www.nara.gov/ This site lists all kinds of records, including service records. Nola Thacker Austin, TX

http://www.ishaah.com/Wall.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sunday, May 27, 2001 WASHINGTON - President Bush urged Americans on Saturday to take a moment this Memorial Day weekend to "appreciate the price that was paid for our own lives" by those who serve in the nation's armed forces. In his weekly radio address, taped before he went to Camp David, Md., for the weekend, Bush said he would mark Memorial Day by holding a White House breakfast Monday for military veterans "who knew and remember the people who never came back from our nation's wars." "We are in their debt, more than a lifetime of Memorial Days could ever repay," Bush said. "In the end, all we can do is be thankful. All we can do is remember and always appreciate the price that was paid for our own lives and our own freedom." The president, who served in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, referred fleetingly to the military service of his father, a Navy aviator during World War II. "Most of us know war veterans; I had the privilege of being raised by one," Bush said. "Usually, they are reticent about their experiences. It is often difficult for them to think back on those names and faces, on the ones who never lived to be called veterans. But on Memorial Day, we accept our obligation to do just that." He called on Americans to "remember the heroism, the hardship, the national gain and personal loss" of war. Presidents, he said, have made the decisions in the White House, but the success - or failure - of those decisions rested on the shoulders of the men and women who fought those wars. "America has been given so much, but of all our assets, resources and strengths, none have counted for more than the courage of young soldiers in the face of battle," Bush said. "Victory has always come down to the people flying the planes, manning the ships, carrying the gun and the pack. ... They have defended us. They have died for us. They have never disappointed us." After Monday's breakfast, Bush plans to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery before flying to Mesa, Ariz., for another Memorial Day ceremony.

Hi, Looking for burial location or data about a Doc or Doctor Hicks (aka Richard). Doc or Doctor was his given name, not a title. He may have also been known as Richard. He was born ca. 1866/67 in Harrison Co., Ky., 5th known child of Andrew Jackson & Elizabeth (Craig) Hicks. He is only one of two brothers who was known to have left Harrison Co., Ky. before his mother's death. He was last known to be living July 6, 1916, the date of death of his half-brother, and he was said to have been living at Mt. Sterling, Ky. on that date. Brothers of Doctor/Richard were: Edward Wyatt(e), Alvin, Absalom, Hugh G., Jacob, and Clark B./P. Hicks. No known sisters. I look forward to hearing any tips, information, etc. Thanks. Philip Naff Indianapolis, Indiana

They just recently (within the last year or so) found thousands of records that they thought were lost in that fire in St. Louis....... Jd. <>< -----Original Message----- From: Mary Rigdon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 2:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Service records of WWI and WWII I don't really want to get in a big hassle about this, but you must write to St. Louis for Army Records, etc. They are at the National Personnel Records Center. You must be a direct and only descendent to get the information for WWII which is still not released because of the Privacy Act. MOst of the info for WWI can be released if there is any. In my case, both for my brother Straka and father Straka I got the following information: "The record needed to answer your inquiry is not in our files. If the record were here on July 12, 1973, it would have been in the area that suffered the most damage in the fire on that date and may have been destroyed." The inforation used for the attached NA FORM 13038, Certification of Military Service, was obtained from an alternate source. This will serve as verification of military service and may be used for any official purposes. However, complete records cannot be reconstructed. (I wanted such things as medals and battlefield commissions, etc. which they both had many of.) Apparently, I will never find out anything about them. The address in St. Louis , MO is 9700 Page Avenue, and it must be presented on the National Archived Form 13045. Mary Rigdon ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== shh, be verrrry quiet.......I am hunting forebears.

Hi, This many not help much but who knows might be worth a shot as they say they have records of Discharge? Heres the link <A HREF="www.state.ky.us/agencies/military/mrrb.htm">KY Military Records and Research Branch</A> I hope this helps someone looking for Military Records as they don't say they need any numbers of any kind. Best Wishes, Charlotte