I am looking for information on the James Taylor Oldfield family. I know he married either a Mary Slimp or Slemp. They had at least 2 children: Jesse and Mabel. Mabel was still alive in the 1980's because my family attended her 90th birthday party. I know she is buried with her parents somewhere around Mt. Sterling. Would apprecite any information! Theresa

http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp go here and click on Rev. War Military Abstract Card file (but first read this page) then follow the directions... I have found some Ishmael paper work that was not in the Rev War records rec'd from the National Archives... jeannie <>< list mom

http://www.tarleton.edu/~kjones/confeds.html this looks like a fun place to play... jeannie <>< list mom

Soooo pfunny! Must have been written by someone whose genealogy is done.

Thank you for the interesting web site on Court Days

Thanks to those who answered the dates on court days, this should make my boss very happy. He has been after me for days to find out the dates. Carole

LOL!! Wonder if that could get one in shape as well as regular yoga and exercise. heheheheeee Priscilla ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeannie Dalrymple Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Phunnie for the week, thanks A. D. jd list mom.... Here are some simple yogealogy exercises (gen-kriyas) to get you started. All mantras are to be repeated for the duration of the exercise, except when noted otherwise. Rock Pose Posture: Sit in a silent, darkened room in front of a microfilm reader, peering intently at pale, blurry handwriting. (Your eyes may soon glaze over. Don't worry. This is normal.) Lean forward tensely at an uncomfortable angle. Hold this position for eight hours. Mudra/Action: While maintaining the posture, raise your right hand in front of you at a 45-degree angle from your body, and make slow, circular, cranking motions until you lose all feeling in your right arm. Mantra: (Repeat silently) "Please, please, please, please, please." Plow Pose Posture: Position a tall stack of index books on a library table. Crouch in front of the stack. Mudra/Action: Make a fist of your left hand, with the index finger extended. Slowly run the extended finger down page after page of the first book. Close book, set aside and repeat with next book. Plow through the whole stack, then drag the stack in front of you again and repeat. Continue plowing until library closes. Mantra: (Repeat in an urgent whisper): "Where? Where? Where? Where? Where?" Crow Pose Posture: Form two fists and thrust both arms upward. Throw back your head, grin maniacally, squeeze your eyes shut. This exercise can be performed either seated or standing; for maximum effect, begin in a seated position with the upward arm thrust, then leap suddenly to your feet, knocking over your chair behind you. Mudra/Action: From time to time, drop your head to your chest, bend your right arm and pump your fist vigorously. Variation: Perform clog dance around fallen chair. Mantra: (Shout exultantly) "Yesssss! Yessssss! Yessssss! Hahahahahahaha." Continue until ejected from the premises. Downward Dog Posture: (Must be done in a cemetery.) Place yourself squarely in front of a weathered tombstone, facing the stone. With your feet flat on the ground, lean forward until your hands are also resting on the ground. Your body will form an isosceles triangle, with your rear end at the apex. Raise your head and squint at the tombstone. Mudra/Action: Balancing carefully, raise your right arm and run your fingertips very lightly over the surface of the stone, attempting to decipher it. Hold breath, and continue for one minute. Mantra: (At end of the minute, exclaim once, explosively) Piffle! Move to next tombstone. Repeat until sunset. Tree Pose Posture: (Best done in the back of a crowded research seminar.) Obtain an eight-pound syllabus; two bulky notebooks; and three grocery sacks full of newly purchased, very thick, very heavy, hardcover books. Clutch these items to your chest with both arms. Simultaneously, dangle a heavy purse from your left shoulder and a heavy tote bag from your right shoulder. (Men: Instead of a purse, obtain a second tote bag and fill with rocks.) Stand erect, stretching neck as high as possible to see over people standing in front of you. Mudra/Action: Move head back and forth (imitate the branches of a tree on a windy day), to see around the standees who are shuffling and shifting position in front of you. Continue to end of lecture. Mantra: (Hiss through clenched teeth): "What'dhesay? What'dhesay?" Corpse Pose Posture: (Can be done anywhere, but is most frequently performed on a floor in the privacy of one's home.) To assume posture, collapse flat on your back, legs outstretched, arms at side, hands upturned helplessly. Roll your eyes up to focus on a point in the middle of your forehead. Mudra/Action: Alternately twitch your left eyelid and right shoulder. Repeat for five minutes, then slowly and rhythmically begin banging the back of your head against the floor. Bang for five minutes. Alternate twitching and banging until someone throws a bucket of cold water in your face. Mantra: (In a loud, plaintive wail during the banging phase) "Why didn't I ask Grandma when I had the chance?!? Why? WHY?!?" Mastering these few, simple yogealogy gen-kriyas, will mean that you, too, will soon be on the cutting edge of cool, the envy of hip-hop hype-meisters everywhere. ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to [email protected] or [email protected] with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe.

Here are some simple yogealogy exercises (gen-kriyas) to get you started. All mantras are to be repeated for the duration of the exercise, except when noted otherwise. Rock Pose Posture: Sit in a silent, darkened room in front of a microfilm reader, peering intently at pale, blurry handwriting. (Your eyes may soon glaze over. Don't worry. This is normal.) Lean forward tensely at an uncomfortable angle. Hold this position for eight hours. Mudra/Action: While maintaining the posture, raise your right hand in front of you at a 45-degree angle from your body, and make slow, circular, cranking motions until you lose all feeling in your right arm. Mantra: (Repeat silently) "Please, please, please, please, please." Plow Pose Posture: Position a tall stack of index books on a library table. Crouch in front of the stack. Mudra/Action: Make a fist of your left hand, with the index finger extended. Slowly run the extended finger down page after page of the first book. Close book, set aside and repeat with next book. Plow through the whole stack, then drag the stack in front of you again and repeat. Continue plowing until library closes. Mantra: (Repeat in an urgent whisper): "Where? Where? Where? Where? Where?" Crow Pose Posture: Form two fists and thrust both arms upward. Throw back your head, grin maniacally, squeeze your eyes shut. This exercise can be performed either seated or standing; for maximum effect, begin in a seated position with the upward arm thrust, then leap suddenly to your feet, knocking over your chair behind you. Mudra/Action: From time to time, drop your head to your chest, bend your right arm and pump your fist vigorously. Variation: Perform clog dance around fallen chair. Mantra: (Shout exultantly) "Yesssss! Yessssss! Yessssss! Hahahahahahaha." Continue until ejected from the premises. Downward Dog Posture: (Must be done in a cemetery.) Place yourself squarely in front of a weathered tombstone, facing the stone. With your feet flat on the ground, lean forward until your hands are also resting on the ground. Your body will form an isosceles triangle, with your rear end at the apex. Raise your head and squint at the tombstone. Mudra/Action: Balancing carefully, raise your right arm and run your fingertips very lightly over the surface of the stone, attempting to decipher it. Hold breath, and continue for one minute. Mantra: (At end of the minute, exclaim once, explosively) Piffle! Move to next tombstone. Repeat until sunset. Tree Pose Posture: (Best done in the back of a crowded research seminar.) Obtain an eight-pound syllabus; two bulky notebooks; and three grocery sacks full of newly purchased, very thick, very heavy, hardcover books. Clutch these items to your chest with both arms. Simultaneously, dangle a heavy purse from your left shoulder and a heavy tote bag from your right shoulder. (Men: Instead of a purse, obtain a second tote bag and fill with rocks.) Stand erect, stretching neck as high as possible to see over people standing in front of you. Mudra/Action: Move head back and forth (imitate the branches of a tree on a windy day), to see around the standees who are shuffling and shifting position in front of you. Continue to end of lecture. Mantra: (Hiss through clenched teeth): "What'dhesay? What'dhesay?" Corpse Pose Posture: (Can be done anywhere, but is most frequently performed on a floor in the privacy of one's home.) To assume posture, collapse flat on your back, legs outstretched, arms at side, hands upturned helplessly. Roll your eyes up to focus on a point in the middle of your forehead. Mudra/Action: Alternately twitch your left eyelid and right shoulder. Repeat for five minutes, then slowly and rhythmically begin banging the back of your head against the floor. Bang for five minutes. Alternate twitching and banging until someone throws a bucket of cold water in your face. Mantra: (In a loud, plaintive wail during the banging phase) "Why didn't I ask Grandma when I had the chance?!? Why? WHY?!?" Mastering these few, simple yogealogy gen-kriyas, will mean that you, too, will soon be on the cutting edge of cool, the envy of hip-hop hype-meisters everywhere.

This was sent to me by a friend that she got from a surname list she is on.> > > JOHN HUNT MORGAN DIDN'T DO IT ALL; COUNTY HOLDINGS - > GALLATIN THROUGH GREENUP > (c) 1997 by Sandi Gorin > > > I recently saw an article reprinted from the Paducah Sun- > Democrat-not dated. But thought it might be of interest to the > readers. This was reprinted in an Edmonson Co KY quarterly > entitled "Echoes From Edmonson > County" by by Kathie Rajewich: > > "Confederates Torched a Dozen .. 22 Courthouses Burned in Kentucky > During the Civil War." Written by Hall Allen. > > "Twenty-two Kentucky Courthouses were burned during the Civil War-19 > of them in the last 15 months of the conflict. > "The Kentucky Historical Highway Marker Program, under the direction > of W. A. Wentworth, Frankfort, has just finished placing markers of > the historic sites. > > "One side of the marker tells of the buring at at that paraticular > place, and the other contains a map of Kentucky, showing the > locations of all the burnings. > > "The greatest 'courthouse burning spree' was conducted by Gen. Hylan > B. Lyon, a native of Eddyville. He invaded Kentucky with 800 men in > December, 1864, to recruit Confederate soldiers, securing supplies and > divert forces from the defense of Nashville which was under attack. > > "With Confederate fortunes fading rapidly, Lyon found recruiting > slow, and he undertook to enforce the Confederate Draft Law. > In several towns he conscripted all able-bodied men and put them > under oath to join him on Jan. 20. Later he complained bitterly that > all failed to show up for induction. > > "Lyon's forces entered the state about Dec. 12th, and promptly burned > the Christian County courthouse at Hopkinsville. As in most cases, he > allowed officials to remove their records. After commandearing > clothing and other supplies, he moved tdo Cadiz on Dec. 13. > > "The Trigg County courthouse there was occupied by Union soldiers who > fled as the Confederate forces advanced. They left behind one soldier > who was too ill to travel. A member of Lyon's command promptly > decided the soldier was suffering from smallpox, shot him on the > spot, and burned the "contaminated" building. > > "The following day Lyon reached Eddyville, his home town. He routed > the Union troops but spared the courthouse because it was across the > street from his home and a member of his family was reported to be > ill in the home. > > "The other courthouses burned by Lyon and his men: > > CALDWELL COUNTY: Lyon and his forces arrived at Princeton on Dec. 15 > whre, as the general said in a report, "I burned the courthouse and > annoyed the people." > > HOPKINS COUNTY: At Madisonville, on Dec. 17, Lyon's men burned the > courthouse and conscripted a number of men who failed to join him > later. > > OHIO COUNTY: On Dec. 20, Lyon's forces captured and paroled a group > of Union soldiers quartered in the courthouse at Hartford. Then he > burned the courthouse. > > GRAYSON COUNTY: On Christmas Eve a contingent of Lyon's forces > burned the court house at Leitchfield. > > TAYLOR COUNTY: The courthouse at Campbellsville was burned Christmas > Day. By this time desertions had reduced his forces to about 250 men > and Lyon started moving out of the state to rejoin Gen. Nathan Bedford > Forrest's command. > > CUMBERLAND COUNTY: The Lyon raids ended at Burkesville on Jan. 3, > with the burning of the courthouse, robbery of stores and seizure of > the houses. Lyon then moved south to Alabama. > > "Other courthouses burned during the Civil War: > > BRECKINRIDGE COUNTY: On Dec, 28, 1864, guerillas burned the > courthouse at Hardinsburg but citizens saved the records and a part > of the building. > > MARION COUNTY:The County Clerk's office at Lebanon was burned July 5, > 1863, by Gen. John Hunt Morgan, to destroy treason indictments against > some of his men. > > MONTGOMERY COUNTY: Confederate cavalrymen burned the Mt. Sterling > courthouse Dec. 2, 1863, to prevent its use as a Union garrison. > > POWELL COUNTY: In the spring of 1863 guerrillas burned the courthouse > and other buildings at Stanton. > > HARLAN COUNTY: In October, 1863, the courthouse at Harlan was burned > for reprisal for the burning of the Lee County, Va. courthouse. > > DAVIESS COUNTY: Courthouse at Owensboro burned by guerrillas on Jan. > 4, 1865, while it was being occupied by Union troops. > > LARUE COUNTY: The courthouse at Hodgenville was burned by guerrillas > on Feg. 21, 1865. It had been used by Union soldiers as barracks. > > BATH COUNTY: On March 21, 1864, Union troops fled the courthouse at > Owingsville as a Confederate force approached. An overheated stove > started a fire, destroying the building. > > MONROE COUNTY: The courthousse and other buildings at Tompkinsville > were burned by Confederates on April 22, 1863, in reprisal for burning > in Celina, Tenn. by Union forces. > > CLINTON COUNTY: The courthouse at Albany was burned by guerrillas > late in 1864. > > CRITTENDEN COUNTY: The courthouse at Marion was burned by guerrillas > in January, 1865. > > ROWAN COUNTY: The courthouse at Morehead was burned by guerrillas > March 21, 1864." > --

The below site can explain Court Days http://www.mountsterling-ky.com/courtday/courtday.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jeannie Dalrymple [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: KYMONTGO-D Digest V01 #131 I am not sure but apparently something is going on in Montgomery Co. some sort of celebration I would assume... who can enlighten us on this. Jeannie <>< list mom -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: KYMONTGO-D Digest V01 #131 I am new to this. What are Court Days? ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to [email protected] or [email protected] with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe. ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== shh, be verrrry quiet.......I am hunting forebears.

I am new to this. What are Court Days?

Thank you.... I well may be in KY during this time and will attend.... Tho have no set time for my time in KY this fall... will be there but not sure when.. jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Ron Rowland [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Court Days The below site can explain Court Days http://www.mountsterling-ky.com/courtday/courtday.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jeannie Dalrymple [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: KYMONTGO-D Digest V01 #131 I am not sure but apparently something is going on in Montgomery Co. some sort of celebration I would assume... who can enlighten us on this. Jeannie <>< list mom -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: KYMONTGO-D Digest V01 #131 I am new to this. What are Court Days? ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to [email protected] or [email protected] with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe. ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== shh, be verrrry quiet.......I am hunting forebears. ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== shh, be verrrry quiet.......I am hunting forebears.

I am not sure but apparently something is going on in Montgomery Co. some sort of celebration I would assume... who can enlighten us on this. Jeannie <>< list mom -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYMONTGO-L] Re: KYMONTGO-D Digest V01 #131 I am new to this. What are Court Days? ==== KYMONTGO Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE send a new e-mail to [email protected] or [email protected] with nothing in the body of the e-mail except the word unsubscribe.

The official day is the 3rd Monday in October. It now starts the Sat. and Sun. before that 3rd Monday. This years is Oct. 13, 14, and 15. Faye Turner

This is most interesting and should be printed off so that you can study it.. the manuscripts are awesome. I have done some research in them and was struck with the amount of personal papers that are contained here. Jeannie <>< List Mom -----Original Message----- We dined on "steak and whiskey" An Overview of the Shane Manuscripts by Trevia Wooster Beverly,1 August 1997 At the end of the American Revolution, the "West" was defined as the land between the Appalachian Mountains and the Mississippi River. By 1828, however, westward expansion had reached the Mississippi River and, in the Missouri region, had pushed the frontier far beyond. Underlying the history of this expansion are the stories of thousands of pioneer families, many of whose lives can now only be glimpsed through the written record. If you are researching individuals or families who were part of the westward expansion during the years from about 1780 to 1860, you will find two special collections, the Draper Manuscripts and the Shane Manuscripts, both available at Clayton Library, to be of particular value in this area. Our primary focus here will be on the Shane Manuscripts. "We dined on steak and whiskey." This quote, from a diary found in the Shane Manuscripts, describes a favorite meal of one pioneer. Later, in an entry for 1825, we learn of another meal consisting of turkey, oysters, potatoes, turnips, beef, and Parmesan cheese. Although hardly the stuff of which history is made, such details are the life blood and valued treasure of the family historian. And thanks to the near obsessive drive of John Dabney Shane-for whom the Shane Manuscripts are named-much of this kind of material has been preserved. Shane, born in Cincinnati, Ohio in 1812 to Henry and Nancy (Williams) Shane,2 was educated at college and seminary in Virginia and returned to Ohio and Kentucky as a Presbyterian minister. Licensed by the Cincinnati Presbytery on May 31, 1842, he was shortly thereafter ordained by the West Lexington Presbytery and performed his pastoral duties at North Middleton, Kentucky until 1855. Following two years of service with several other churches in that region, he returned to Cincinnati in 1857, where he continued to work as the occasion presented itself within the bounds of the Cincinnati Presbytery. From his earliest years, he had a passion for collecting and hoarding everything that had any bearing upon the history of the Presbyterian Church in the Ohio River Valley. Possessing a remarkable zeal for his project, Rev. Shane declined pastoral office and set aside any intentions he may have had concerning the establishment of a family so that he could roam the land in his quest. He did, however, preach to many congregations as he visited among the people. He was to dedicate more than twenty years to historical research, using the oral history technique similar to his contemporary, Lyman Copeland Draper. Shane purposefully sought out those of age and experience to interview, writing down their reminiscences. He copied from family, church, and government records and clipped from newspapers and magazines. While Draper had a deep interest in the military (personal papers in his original collection are rare), Shane was just as interested in the domestic, business, educational, religious, and literary aspects of the time. His inquiries concerning old barrels, trunks, and chests-which he carefully searched-brought him many family letters, records, and other items. Shane was a frail man, with a very small and close handwriting, and no doubt his extensive traveling, sometimes under less than favorable circumstances, resulted in many periods of ill health. He died of what was then called "inflammation of the lungs." As evidenced by his name always appearing in annual reports, Rev. Shane was apparently held in high esteem as a faithful minister and "a man of God." Yet, only a small notice of his death appeared in the Cincinnati Commercial of February 8, 1864: "On Sabbath evening, February 7, at 9 o'clock, Rev. J. Dabney Shane, aged 52 years. Funeral services at the residence of his sister Mrs. A. J. Mulford, 359 John Street, between Clark and Chestnut, Tuesday afternoon, at 2 o'clock." As genealogists hone their research techniques and become familiar with library resources, they will eventually discover the "special collections" and the wealth of information that can be found in them. The Shane Manuscripts is one such hidden treasure. We are extremely fortunate to have, at Clayton Library, both the 32 reels of microfilm of these papers and the accompanying Genealogical Guide.3 Shane was quite the collector. No matter how insignificant, items that came into his hands were treasured and carefully attended to. And he would not part with any of them! As a result, the Shane Manuscripts are a fascinating source of genealogical information. After seeing Shane's collection, the Rev. Joseph M. Wilson made the following comment: "They [the papers in the collection] were on the upper floor of Moore, Wilstach & Co.'s large building on Fourth Street [Cincinnati], and an interesting place it was; the rooms, three in number, were shelved all around from floor to ceiling, divided and subdivided by partitions, pamphlets arranged by subjects and then by years, newspaper clippings carefully rolled up with a memorandum to each stating the name and date of paper and place of publication, magazines, reviews, and periodicals of all kinds having any reference to Presbyterianism, especially in the West; scrapbooks in which were collected what are known as 'broadsides,' being circulars, prospectuses, &c., printed on one side only. Being attracted by piles of papers and pamphlets in the middle of the floor, they, he said, were his unarranged material." Those familiar with the more famous Draper Manuscripts,4 and who recognize the name of Shane within them, may be surprised to find that not all of Shane's material is contained within that collection. In fact, fully half of Shane's material found its way into the possession of the Presbyterian Historical Society,5 collected and placed there by Philidelphian Samuel Agnew, Esquire. And it is this portion of Shane's original collection that one will find on the 32 reels of microfilm owned by Clayton Library. After Shane's death, his collection was sold at auction for about $3,000 total for books, notes, and manuscripts. Lyman Draper purchased most of the manuscript portion at a cost of approximately $300, and a portion of that was resold to the Presbyterian Historical Society for $30. Draper began in early manhood to gather material on all phases of pioneer history in the middle West, specializing in personal sketches of Boone, Clark, Kenton, and other well-known Western men. In 1853 he became associated with the State Historical Society of Wisconsin and thus acquired part of Shane's collection. In a letter that Draper wrote from Madison, Wisconsin on February 5, 1865, he credits his purchase of the Shane papers for the increase in his own collection. "I secured in Sept. at Cincinnati - that of the late Rev. John D. Shane, who was some 30 years collecting - has a good deal new Boone material obtained from old Kentucky pioneers whom I did not happen to come across. * As large as my MS. collection was when you [John A. Remsen, Draper's kinsman] saw it in 1852, I think I have quite doubled it since." In 1865, Draper, in the Society's 11th Annual Report, referred to Shane as "a singularly industrious collector of matters pertaining to Western history." Hall, in the preface to his Genealogical Guide, points out that the documents on the 32 reels of film are mostly handwritten and sometimes illegible. Many of the church subscribers names appear as original signatures and are very difficult to read. There is an index in the Guide; however, this is an index only to the Guide itself, not to the collection. This should not deter the serious researcher, however, as the Guide certainly helps. In fact, it makes for interesting and informative reading on its own! It is desirable-perhaps imperative-that both the Shane Manuscripts and the Draper Manuscripts be used together for any research project involving the scope of either. Most, but not all, of the interviews Rev. Shane had with old pioneers are included in the Draper Manuscripts, while the Philadelphia collection consists mostly of old letters, records, and other materials that were given to him-plus a few interviews. Shane's collection includes numerous documents with references to individual families throughout the then-West, including family papers, church minutes and membership lists, and newspaper abstracts (1794-1849) containing obituaries and other notices concerning prominent Kentucky and Tennessee pioneers. It is poignant to read the letter of a boy away at boarding school who wrote in 1826, "I hope, dear mother, when I come home[,] you won't make me come back to this place." Or those of 1812 between wife Judith and "My Dear Dr. [William H.] Richardson," who was away in the Army; Surgeon, 1st Regt., Payne's Brigade, K.V.M., under General Harrison. Among the Shane Manuscripts, one will find a memorial sermon given by the Rev. Robert Marshall on the occasion of the 90th anniversary of the Bethel Church, Fayette County, which had been organized in 1789. The Rev. Marshall noted that "there is no section of the Presbyterian Church on the American continent whose history has been more interesting or more eventful than that was planned in Kentucky by the early pioneers. Their elevated and indomitable spirit, their love of liberty, both civil and religious, is traced back through Pennsylvania and the Valley of Virginia, across the broad ocean to the North of Ireland and to the heath clad hills of Scotland, where the heroic few stood up against fearful odds and maintained with unflinching courage Christ's Crown and Covenant." While his message also included a word to the unconverted, it was a fitting sermon of encouragement to the early Presbyterians. The sermons and other related materials provide the researcher with not only historical perspective but many names, relationships, and personal data. This is a fertile field of research for those who had ancestors in this area. Those portions of Shane's collection that are part of the Draper Manuscripts were abstracted in the section called "Kentucky Papers" (volumes 11-19 of series CC). The abstracts appear on pages 470-539 of the Calendar of The Kentucky Papers of the Draper Collection of Manuscripts.6 Items that remained in "the Shane Collection" include births, marriages, and deaths of a number of families, giving much-sought-after genealogical information. In the papers, for instance, those of Robert Marshall of Georgetown, Scott County, Kentucky (1790-1808), one will find a list of 1810 scholars. And in the papers of Col. Robert Patterson, one will find a hand drawn map, undated, of Bourbon County, Kentucky, as well as land entries and surveys of Evan Shelby of Fincastle County, Virginia, 1775-1783. Examples of papers containing excellent genealogical accounts include those of the Cameron family of Scotland, Ireland, and America and the papers of Andrew Steele, who came from Ireland to Kentucky with two children, Robin and William. The latter set of papers is sprinkled with letters, petitions, and lists, several of which make mention of the Elkhorn area and to the Elkhorn Church. Those with an interest in this area now have valuable material to supplement that contained in the well-known work by Ermina Jett Darnell, Forks of Elkhorn Church With Genealogies of Early Members.7 Another example of items in the Shane Collection is the journal and marriage register (about 30 pages) kept by the Rev. Mr. Joseph P. Howe, minister in South Carolina and Clark County, Kentucky, from October 14, 1798, to April 7, 1816. And what a delight to find that, from the Library Company of Philadelphia, Rev. Shane saved the account book kept by John Todd, Jr., librarian, 1784-1785. A young lawyer, Todd died of yellow fever in 1793. His widow, Dolly, was to later marry James Madison, who became President of the United States. Dealing mostly with financial concerns, Todd's account book lists the names of those owing fines and includes a list of purchases: "1/2 gallon Madeira, 1 bushel oysters, 4 Loafs of bread, Limes," etc. While neither Shane nor Draper could have foreseen the great interest of genealogists yet to come, together these two pioneers in oral history have given us treasures of cultural history. From the Shane Manuscripts we find the price of Madeira wine was $2.00 a gallon in Paducah, Kentucky; butter was 18 cents a pound in Paris, Kentucky; and a slave, described as "a fine cook and a good boy," was priced at $1500. Christians, who on occasion tipped a glass or two, are recorded for censure. In one portion of the collection are found the names of Agnes Glaze, Osburn Tucker and wife, Nat'l Collins and wife, Walter Tucker and wife, and some 35 others who had been removed from the church roll. Researchers going through the Shane Manuscripts will find details of daily life and customs that really put "meat on the bones" of their ancestors. The material, like a good book, is hard to put down! Considering the sheer magnitude of Shane's collection, we can only imagine the awe with which Draper, himself a pioneer in oral history, must have approached the possibility of acquiring it. Shane's keen interest in the entire Ohio River Valley has left us not only a valuable history of frontier Presbyterianism but a cultural history of the first American West. Get out that map, and if your family was ever in the area where the Rev. Shane traveled, be sure to access his important collection. NOTES: A charter member of the Clayton Library Friends, Trevia Beverly is a professional genealogist who conducts genealogy classes and publishes The Tejas Gazette under her firm, Tejas Publications & Research. Otto A. Rothert, "Shane, The Western Collector," The Filson Club Quarterly 4:1:1930. William K. Hall, The Shane Manuscript Collection, A Genealogical Guide to the Kentucky and Ohio Papers (Galveston, Texas: The Frontier Press, 1990). GEN 972 H181 USA. See Josephine L. Harper, Guide to the Draper Manuscripts (Madison, Wisconsin: State Historical Society of Wisconsin, 1983). GEN 973 H294 USA. Address of the Presbyterian Historical Society is 425 Lombard Street, Philadelphia, PA 19147. Telephone (215) 627-1852. Madison Wisconsin: State Historical Society of Wisconsin, 1925. GEN 976.9 S797 KY. Louisville, Kentucky: Standard Printing Co., [c1946]. GEN 976.9 D223 KY. END

[email protected] wrote: >Does anyone know when the Court Days will be this year in Mt. Sterling? It is always the weekend of the 3rd Monday of October. So count the Mondays and back up to the weekend. This year, it is 13-15 October. ---------- Lee Hoffman/KY E-mail: [email protected] TMG Tips: <http://www.tmgtips.com> My website: <http://www.tmgtips.com/lhoffman> -------------- A user of the best genealogy program, The Master Genealogist (TMG)

Does anyone know when the Court Days will be this year in Mt. Sterling? Carole

I did NOT write this.. I subscribe to it... thanks, Jeannie <>< Sunday Afternoon Rocking The Hinges on Which Our Histories Open (from the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series) Fifty years ago or so, three young men, not much more than boys, were called from the rural community they had grown up in to report for the Army. Their families traveled from the farms to see them off at the Greyhound bus station. I imagine a strange mixture of pride and sadness and fear sat heavy on the hearts of the mothers and fathers at that bus station that day. I imagine more than a few pictures of the past were unfolding in their minds as they realized it was not so long ago they were sending these boys off to school, sitting beside them on a creek bank with a fishing pole, worrying about how to keep a pair of shoes on such quickly growing feet. A black and white picture forever captures in time the three youthful faces grinning broadly into the camera as they stand in front of the bus that will carry them away from all they have known into another destiny. Studying those faces, I imagine the young men are somewhat excited, and more than a little anxious. But knowing youth, I also suspect they are "chomping at the bits" to move into the world and see what it might hold for them. With hugs and kisses and quickly spoken words they will promise to keep in touch and try to stay safe. >From the day I discovered the picture as a child and asked, I have known the story that unfolded. One young man was denied by the service, after a health problem he was not even aware he had was discovered during his examination. The second young man was killed in an automobile accident one week before he was to be sent overseas. The third young man never returned from the war he was sent to. My father was the young man denied by the service. Had he not been, I suppose it likely I would never have been born. The doors of "down home" were nothing fancy. They did not feature brass trappings nor leaded glass windows. They were planed by hand, primarily their knobs were of china, and most were on "genuine hinges". But there were others with merely a piece of wood to turn as a latch, and a scrap of leather to hold as a hinge. In short, they were nondescript, practical and plain, typical of the time and place in which they existed...rather like other hinges on which the doors of our family histories open. Nothing one might look twice at. We do not often recognize those doors when they swing open on "what becomes", only to swing shut again on "what might have been". Only by looking back do we realize how small an occurrence it was that changed the pattern of a family's memories to come, the pattern of the opportunities or misfortunes in a family series of events, the very hinges on which the lives of so many to follow depend. What if...I often wonder...a thousand small happenings had never happened? What if a grandmother's family had never taken the notion to pack their "plunder" and move to Texas? Would she have felt such pressing need to marry immediately in order not to be separated from the one she had pinned her heart on? Would she have tired of her beau, my grandfather, and married another? What of the line that continued on in Texas? Her siblings married there, raised families there that would never have come to be had that move not been made. And the wonderings go back. What of the young man over a hundred and fifty years ago who began in Pennsylvania, traipsed his way through Ohio, Kentucky, landing finally in Tennessee...all because he was a "collier" and looking for work? Had he not, his name would not be documented in my family lineage as an ancestor...in fact, again, I suppose I would not be. And sometimes...the decisions are of such minute nature, that it is amazing what stories evolve from them. Early in the 1900's, my great grandmother decided to send the boy who was her brother-in-law (and incidentally, one of a household of her husband's siblings she was raising) to the store for a spool of thread. Dutifully Mack did as he was bid...and when a train passed by the house, he was standing in the open door of a freight train and tossed off the spool of thread to land in her open hands. The train roared out of sight, Mack waving goodbye, and I imagine the young woman stood with her mouth open in astonishment. Some fifty years later it was before Mack again turned up. He had "hoboed" his way to California, finished raising himself and made his own way. He had done well. The handsome elderly man was welcomed back to the family with open arms. But I imagine that throughout the years my great grandmother often asked herself the question..."What if I had not needed a spool of thread that day?" Well ...what if? A spool of thread changed the course of history. The impulsive decision made because of the need for a spool of thread was the deciding hinge that opened the door for a family to be born and raised in a faraway place. Looking back I can think of hundreds of tiny incidences (at the time) that forever changed the pattern of the family to follow...imagine that! A spool of thread! Are these tiny incidents that change entire histories flukes? Accidents? Oh, in my wondering...I think not. Just a thought, jan Copyright (c)2001janPhilpot ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be shared...simply share though e-mail as written without alterations...and in entirety. If planned for a publication, permission must be granted by the author. Please forward sufficient information concerning the nature and intent of the publication. Thanks, jan) Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to [email protected] Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ =========================================================== ARE YOU IN DEBT? Consolidate credit cards without a loan! Reduce interest and payments! Save Thousands of dollars and become debt free 70% sooner! Click here for a FREE QUOTE! http://click.topica.com/caaac15b1dissb2hQMpf/debtguru =========================================================== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (Note: Afternoon Rocking messages are meant to be passed on, meant to be shared...simply share as written without alterations...and in entirety. Thanks, jan) Sunday Afternoon Rocking columns are distributed weekly on the list Sunday Rocking. This is not a "reply to" list, and normally only one message per week will come across it, that being the column. To subscribe send email to [email protected] Comments about the content of these messages can be sent to [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________ ==^=============================================================== EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1diss.b2hQMp Or send an email To: [email protected] This email was sent to: [email protected] T O P I C A-Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^===============================================================

Hello All, Looking for any information on a Nathaniel DAVIS who left a will in 1814 in Montgomery Co. KY. Wife's name was a Margaret... children: Robert Polly (married IGO) Richard Solomon Elizabeth (married Thomas McCLAIN) This Davis family could be connected to Jefferson Davis CSA Thank you Debbie