CORRECTION: Sorry, I overlooked the fact that I had a birthdate (this from Dayton Birdwell) for WILLIAM'S daughter, LUCINDA C. TURNER (m. ROBERT SMITH): April 3, 1816. This fits perfectly with the 1820 Buckingham and 1830 Monroe Censuses evidence, placing WILLIAM & FRANCES in Buckingham County, VA, before coming to KY. The 1850 and 1860 Monroe transcriptions I've seen are both off for Lucinda's age--first understated then overstated, respectively. MARY A. TURNER'S (m. ____ ENGLAND) birthdate remains approximate, 1817-1819, based roughly on her age range (10-14) from 1830 Monroe and the age (12) of her apparently oldest surviving child, in 1850. There still remains an unaccounted for female (0-4) in their household in 1830 Monroe. Could have been their child that did not survive, the infant son (Toliver Turner) of JOHN A., or possibly someone else. -------------- More About WILLIAM & FRANCES' Burial Site: Another possibility could be BETHLEHEM CEMETERY, although it wasn't donated as a burying ground to the church until 1870. There are a few earlier burials there, but may have only been a family cemetery before. There is no reason I know of to doubt that WILLIAM & FRANCES were still active members of Bethlehem Church, during 1860-64, but family cemeteries and home burials predominated at the time, and seems most likely for them, especially if TURNER GRAVEYARD was on TURNER or ENGLAND land back then. [One of WYATT'S descendants, I know, currently lives on a farm adjacent.] Perhaps other local descendants on this list may know more about the history of NEW SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH--which, I believe, wasn't founded until after 1900--and the history of TURNER GRAVEYARD. I don't know the earliest inscribed surnames and dates found there. MARY A. TURNER ENGLAND and WILLIAM T. TURNER both pre-deceased their father. I don't know whether either might have legible markers in this cemetery--I don't have a cemetery book readily at hand. Can anyone help here? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com