Jimmy, Are you Jimmy Isenberg from Summer Shade? Mike is the genealogist in our family. I saw your name and thought "small world". Margaret Bartley Fraser Jimmy T. Isenberg wrote: > Guys: > > I have lost the web site listed by Sherry Turner Trosper regarding the > Turner and other families. Would someone please resend... > > Thanks > > Jimmy Isenberg > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Charles R. Arterburn > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 1:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KYMONROE] Monroe County--William Turner Will > > Last Will & Testament of WILLIAM TURNER (1788-1864), > from Will Book "C" of Monroe County. Some of the > handwriting is very difficult to read (punctuation > supplied): > > > "I, William Turner of Monroe County Kentucky, being > weak in body but of sound mind and disposing memory, > do make this my last will and testament, hereby > revoking all previous wills made by me. > > 1st Pt. It is my will that after my death my beloved > wife, Frances Turner, shall of my effects pay all my > just debts and funeral expenses, and have and control > and use all my property of every description during > her natural life, and at her death it is my will that > all my property be equally divided amongst my children > and heirs, to wit: John A. Turner, Wyatt Turner > heirs, Jefferson Turner, Lucinda Smith, James M.O. > Turner, Robert J. Turner, and the heirs of William > Turner, and the heirs of Mary A. England, except my > land, which at my wife['s] death, I will to Mary A. > England heirs and William Turner heirs, to be equally > divided between them, that is equally between each set > of said heirs, having heretofore given the other > children all the land I design[ed] for them. > > And lastly, I appoint my son, Robert J. Turner, to > execute this my last will and testament, in witness > whereof I here set my name. > William x Turner" > > ["x" is surrounded by notation, "his mark."] > > "This day personally appeared before me, R. J. Maxey, > County Court Clerk, Monroe County, Kentucky, > Marmaduk[e] N. Jeffreys, of lawful age and resident of > Monroe County, Kentucky, and made oath in due form of > law that the above is copy in substance of a will > signed by William Turner, in his lifetime and > acknowledged in his presence, signed and sworn to.... > > ... this 13th day of Sept. 1864" > > "This day personally appeared before me, R.J. Maxey, > County Court Commissioner Samuel Ray, and of lawful > age and a resident of the County of Monroe and State > of Kentucky, and made oath in due form of law that the > [illegible] as foregoing contains the substance of a > will which he drafted for William Turner and in his > lifetime, which [illegible] he agreed by making his > mark and acknowledged it to be his will, that the same > such person in open court and [illegible] the said > will and record of the same [illegible] has been > destroyed by fire. > Samuel Ray > > ...this 14th day of September, 1864" > > ----------------------------- > > This difficult to decipher reference to a fire might > refer to the court house fire of 1863. This seems to > open up the possibility that WILLIAM TURNER might have > died before the court house fire, and his Will was > here being re-recorded. Anyone have any comments or > ideas about this? > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Carol: Just read your request for information on the Bugg line. One of my American Revolutionary ancestors, 5th great grandfather, was John Bugg of Virginia; he had several sons, one of which was named Jessie. This Jessie Bugg married Mary Andrews, 27 Jan. 1811. Don't know anything more about Jessie since I descend from John Bugg's daughter Lucy Bugg who married James Gee. Lucy Bugg Gee and John Gee both migrated to KY and are buried in Monroe Co. KY. Looks like to me your Bugg and Andrews go back to 1811. They may have all moved to KY after the American Revolution. Some of my line of the Lamb and Gee names moved from KY to Sherman, TX also. Paula Lamb Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:09 AM Subject: [KYMONROE] Jesse Bugg? My ancestors from Monroe County are Jesse Baxter and Martha Andrews, who were born and married in the county and later moved to Sherman, Texas. It seems to me that back when I was actively researching them (receiving a lot of help from other researchers!) that I ran across a Jesse Bugg somewhere in the county. Now, both my ancestors appear to have Bugg as a middle name, and they named their youngest son Jesse Bugg Baxter, Jr. I have always wondered whether Jesse Bugg had some connection to the family, or was a good friend of all their parents, or was a local hero. There must have been SOME reason they both got the name. I would be thankful if anybody has a clue for me. Carol Saint-Clair née Baxter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Right. I should have mentioned the dates. Jesse Baxter was born 1817 and Martha Andrews was born 1820. They married around 1840. Jesse was probably born in Henry County, but they lived in Monroe as a married couple. Thanks. Carol

What times are you speaking of here? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:09 AM Subject: [KYMONROE] Jesse Bugg? My ancestors from Monroe County are Jesse Baxter and Martha Andrews, who were born and married in the county and later moved to Sherman, Texas. It seems to me that back when I was actively researching them (receiving a lot of help from other researchers!) that I ran across a Jesse Bugg somewhere in the county. Now, both my ancestors appear to have Bugg as a middle name, and they named their youngest son Jesse Bugg Baxter, Jr. I have always wondered whether Jesse Bugg had some connection to the family, or was a good friend of all their parents, or was a local hero. There must have been SOME reason they both got the name. I would be thankful if anybody has a clue for me. Carol Saint-Clair née Baxter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestors from Monroe County are Jesse Baxter and Martha Andrews, who were born and married in the county and later moved to Sherman, Texas. It seems to me that back when I was actively researching them (receiving a lot of help from other researchers!) that I ran across a Jesse Bugg somewhere in the county. Now, both my ancestors appear to have Bugg as a middle name, and they named their youngest son Jesse Bugg Baxter, Jr. I have always wondered whether Jesse Bugg had some connection to the family, or was a good friend of all their parents, or was a local hero. There must have been SOME reason they both got the name. I would be thankful if anybody has a clue for me. Carol Saint-Clair née Baxter

Does anyone on the list know someone in the Tompskinville area that does genealogy research? My family is in need of someone who is familiar with Monroe county records, what is left of them and what is available, to do research prior to 1846. We are looking for a Grace McMillin that married a William Bailey b. 1794. They lived in Bailey Hollow along Bailey Creek. That is close to the Cumberland River in the South eastern part of Monroe County. William left without Grace about 1846 and came to Platte Co. Mo. WE assume she died in Monroe Co., But we can find no record of her grave. We suspect she came from the Daniel McMillin clan since they were the only McMillins in the area in 1815, but have no proof. We have proof that John P. Bailey married Ellen McMillin prior to 1838, but again no burial record or parents. These are proven on death certificates. Would be willing to hire someone to do the diggin. Thank you Jeanette in Independence Jeanette Bailey-Lopez [email protected] Families are like fudge......Mostly sweet but with a few nuts.

I heard first of year NARA data will be 99. dollars or near that. So order for self for Xmas and Thanksgiving gifts. LOL YUP what ever but do it now. I think the increase way to high. Susi

TALIAFERRO/TOLIVER connection: WILLIAM (ca 1788 VA-1864 KY) and FRANCES ____ TURNER named their youngest son, WILLIAM T. TURNER (1824-before 1864), presumably for his father. WILLIAM'S first-born son, JOHN A. TURNER, named his first-born WILLIAM T. "Toll" TURNER (1830-1914), also, probably for his grandfather. Since the 1850 Census gives the latter's name as "TOLIVER TURNER," it seems likely that both WILLIAM T.'s shared this middle name, especially since there were no other TOLIVERS about. It may even be the case that progenitor WILLIAM TURNER'S middle name was the same, although there is no definitive evidence for it that I've seen. TOLIVER was probably an ancestral name for this TURNER family--a later form of early TALIAFERRO, from VA. In fact, the TALIAFERRO/TOLIVER DNA Project and published family trees indicate the name change. There was a link between a TURNER family and the TALIAFERROs in early VA, and this may eventually prove helpful in tracking down the roots of the Buckingham TURNERS who came to Monroe County. I've included some excerpts from a family publication. It's no longer published, but back issues can be viewed online: http://www.spingola.com/TaliaferroTimes/TT.htm --------------------- TALIAFERRO TIMES Volume I, December 11, 1996 Issue 6 Richard Talliferro's mother-in-law Martha Wingfield came for a visit in 1709 and traveled on to Boston, with many large trunks, to die there on 23 Jul 1709. Her Will left all her property, located in the Bermudas, Bahamas, Boston and Virginia to her daughter Sarah Taliaferro. Richard died in 1715, his wife in 1718, and his only son in 1721, leaving all the property to their remaining 3 daughters, the oldest being married in 1714 to THOMAS TURNER SR. c1690-1758. She (Martha) died in 1726 and he remarried to her sister Sarah Taliaferro as his second wife. TURNER became one of the wealthiest people on either side of the Rapphannock in a very short time, buying up land in Richmond, King George, Caroline, Spotsylvania, etc. He had a descendant in the 1960s still living there, descended from TOM TURNER SR and both his Taliaferro wives. ------------------ TALIAFERRO TIMES Volume I, January 28, 1998 Issue No. 36 The best account of the Taliaferro family is by Henry G. Taliaferro of New York and found in The Virginia Genealogist v. 38, pp 163-189. It is entitled "Who was Catherine, the wife of Col. Cadwallader Jones of Virginia" and is meticulously documented. Robert Taliaferro and Catherine Debnam were parents of six children: Francis, John, Robert, Richard, Charles and Catherine. Charles Taliaferro was born about 1670 and died before 13 Jun 1735. His will may be found in the Grinnan Papers, Virginia Historical Society under "Caroline Co Wills derived from Court Records". The will mentions his wife Mary and his grand-daughters Mary, Sarah and Catherine. His only child, Charles Taliaferro Jr., predeceased his father. He married his cousin, Sarah Thornton, daughter of Col. Francis Thornton and Mary Taliaferro, daughter of John the Ranger d. 1719 and Sarah Smith. Sarah Thornton Taliaferro married, second, to Thomas Slaughter. Granddaughter Mary Taliaferro (ca 1725-after 1781) married her cousin THOMAS TURNER JR., a grandson of Richard Taliaferro (see following) and, second, to a Thornton. Granddaughter Sarah Taliaferro (1727-1784) married Francis Conway (1722-1761). Granddaughter Catherine left no records except the possible mention of her death in the Caroline County Court Order Books in 1776. See Nugent's "Cavaliers & Pioneers" for a record of Charles Taliaferro's land transactions. Richard Taliaferro died intestate in 1715 in Richmond County VA. He married about 1694 to Sarah Wingfield who died in 1718, the only child was Martha Wingfield who died testate in Boston MA in 1710 while a transient. Richard and Sarah were parents of four children: Richard Jr born about 1700 and died without issue in 1721; Martha Taliaferro married THOMAS TURNER SR. about 1714; Sarah Taliaferro married THOMAS TURNER SR. about 1728 after her sister Martha died; Catherine Taliaferro 1706-1731 married Col. Rice Hooe and they had one child who died without issue. See George H S King's "Marriages of Richmond County" p 203 and the chart on page 266 for descendants of this line down to 1960. best wishes, Charles R. Arterburn ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com)

TURNER DNA ANALYSIS: A descendant of the progenitor JOSEPH TURNER (b. 1790 VA), by way of his son JOSEPH EDWARD TURNER [see Sherry Trosper's website http://www2.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=trosper&view=0&pid=355&rand=60241], has already been tested for 12-markers, and the results appear at the TURNER DNA PROJECT website. Search/Find on "27650:" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~turnerdna/ancestorchart10-17-06.html This DNA profile has been assigned to no specific group or line of TURNERS among all of those who have been tested, thus far. There is one perfect match, though, with a descendant of FRANKLIN TURNER (b. 1806, VA)--kit #51229 [look just below JOSEPH EDWARD'S listing on TURNER DNA PROJECT page], sponsored by Barbara Ralston. According to Barbara, FRANKLIN may have been born in Culpeper County, and may have been a descendant of FIELDING TURNER. Barbara is still working on sorting out her VA line, too. If this proves true, it may eventually help solve the Buckingham TURNER line, since JOSEPH (b. 1790, VA) named one of his sons, FIELDING NICHOLAS, according to Sherry Trosper's website. It may also prove useful to test a male descendant of WILLIAM TURNER (b. 1788, VA), using 25 or 37 markers, to help narrow the focus, especially since Barbara's test was for 25-markers and given the apparent branching of TURNER families. best wishes, Charles R. Arterburn ____________________________________________________________________________________ Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com)

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Seems like the link didn't work, so let me know the names, and I'll look them up for you. -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected] > http://www.civilwar.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.cfm > I got mine from a guy in Washington D. C. and the money was not as much to get > them from the National Archives charges. Contact me privitely for the address. > > -- > Teddy > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Colleen Lill > > > Hello, > > > > Can anyone please give me any links to websites that have rosters for CSA > > soldiers that came from Monroe Co? I know there were over 800 Union > > soldiers from Monroe Co, I just want to find names of CSA soldiers. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Colleen Lill > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

http://www.civilwar.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.cfm I got mine from a guy in Washington D. C. and the money was not as much to get them from the National Archives charges. Contact me privitely for the address. -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html -------------- Original message -------------- From: Colleen Lill <[email protected]> > Hello, > > Can anyone please give me any links to websites that have rosters for CSA > soldiers that came from Monroe Co? I know there were over 800 Union > soldiers from Monroe Co, I just want to find names of CSA soldiers. > > Thanks, > > Colleen Lill > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Can anyone please give me any links to websites that have rosters for CSA soldiers that came from Monroe Co? I know there were over 800 Union soldiers from Monroe Co, I just want to find names of CSA soldiers. Thanks, Colleen Lill

Hi Charles, Can't remember if I already asked you, (or not).....but does your TURNER line by chance have any connection to the, STOVALL / DICKERSON / OLIVER, lines of Halifax Co., VA from the 1700's into the 1800's, prior to their migration and eventual home in Kentucky after the Rev War.? Thanks, Mimi Alexander [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles R. Arterburn<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: [KYMONROE] Monroe County--William & Joseph Turner Thanks to all for the positive feedback off-list about recent postings here on WILLIAM & JOSEPH TURNER'S Buckingham County, VA roots. When I first discovered this about 12 years ago, there were fewer resources available and less interest then than now. Now there seems to be far more interest in these Monroe County TURNER families, and many competent and determined researchers out there. The hardest part may yet lie ahead: Tracing and sorting out NICHOLAS TURNER'S line in VA and beyond. The many apparent branches of VA TURNERS probably do share some common ancestors. Early paper trails in VA are sometimes hard to find, though, and DNA analysis may ultimately prove helpful. If anyone is interested in helping out with a DNA analysis, email me off-list, please, and we can discuss it further. Thanks, Charles R. Arterburn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to all for the positive feedback off-list about recent postings here on WILLIAM & JOSEPH TURNER'S Buckingham County, VA roots. When I first discovered this about 12 years ago, there were fewer resources available and less interest then than now. Now there seems to be far more interest in these Monroe County TURNER families, and many competent and determined researchers out there. The hardest part may yet lie ahead: Tracing and sorting out NICHOLAS TURNER'S line in VA and beyond. The many apparent branches of VA TURNERS probably do share some common ancestors. Early paper trails in VA are sometimes hard to find, though, and DNA analysis may ultimately prove helpful. If anyone is interested in helping out with a DNA analysis, email me off-list, please, and we can discuss it further. Thanks, Charles R. Arterburn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I am looking for a cemetery described to me as being located in Bailey Hollow. This is located between Bailey Creek and Merediths Branch. Suppose to located behind the Dickens place, and was cleaned up some years back, marked mostly with field stones. We have proof now, that those field stones mark the graves of two Revolutionary War soldiers William and Martin Bailey and their wives, Susannah and Elizabeth Bailey. WE live in Missouri, so if any there around Heastand. here is the directions we have:Now to the map. If you look on the map, take highway 163S from Tompkinsville to Hestand then 216 and the Bailey Cemetery is marked as a cemetery on the right before you get to Locust Hill. After Locust Hill there is a road called Meredith Cr. Road on down is Blythe if you look to the left you will see Bailey Branch. I just talked to a lady who was raised down there and she said the hollow near where she was raised was called Bailey hollow. So I asume it was named after our Baileys. She said there is a cemetery down in that area but she wasn't sure where it was. She thought someone had gone in and cleaned it up some time ago. WE have been doing some interviews with older family members who remember visits to this grave yard and it being refered to as where the "old ones" were buried, prior to James P. Bailey donating the Bailey Cemetery in Hestand. So this is circa 1826, 1836, 1849,last burial abt 1852? Any help greatly appreciated, it is hard with us being in Mo., but we do want to preserve the resting places of our ancestors and Revolutionary War Soldiers, we are willing to do what ever it takes to help. Thanks Jeanette Bailey-Lopez, Karen Price Myer, Mary Bailey [email protected] Families are like fudge......Mostly sweet but with a few nuts. Jeanette Bailey-Lopez [email protected] Families are like fudge......Mostly sweet but with a few nuts.

F B--"Both of these entries appear to be for free born black families, perhaps former slaves." I misstated this--should have been "free Black families," not free born. "F B" in the census stands for "Free Black." Thanks to the subscriber who pointed this out. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

27-08-1836 ENGLAND JESSE m. TURNER POLLY ANN [From Doug Moore's online transcription of early Monroe County marriages, taken from: The History of Monroe County, Kentucky 1820-1988 / Compiled by Dayton Birdwell.] This may be a record of marriage for WILLIAM TURNER'S daughter, MARY A. TURNER ENGLAND. It seems to fit with an estimated birthdate of 1816-1819. JESSE and MARY ANN "POLLY" TURNER ENGLAND could be the "Jesse England" with one female (both 20-29) appearing in 1840 Monroe, and one child (0-4). They both seem to have disappeared by 1850. The ages of MARY'S children--living with WILLIAM & FRANCES, 1850, would also fit this marriage date. If these were her only children, she must have died between 1843-50: 427 England..... James........ 12 M ................... KY 010 427 England..... William...... 10 M ................... KY 010 427 England..... Sarah........ 7 F ................... KY 000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

SOME IDEAS FOR FUTURE RESEARCH ON WILLIAM & JOSEPH TURNER: If JUDITH TURNER was 91 in 1850, this pushes her birth back to about 1759. Assuming she was NICHOLAS' first and only spouse, and if NICHOLAS was near her age, their first child might have been born as early as 1779, or earlier. However, JUDITH'S age in 1810 doesn't seem to match her age (91) as reported from 1850 Appomattox County. NICHOLAS TURNER, in 1810 BKM VA Census: Males: 4 (0-10) 1 (10-16) 1 (26-45) Females: 2 (0-10) 1 (10-16) 1 (26-45) In 1820 BKM VA Census: Males: 1 (10-16) 1 (45-) Females: 1 (10-16) 3 (16-26) 1 (45-) In 1830 BKM VA Census (EST of NICHOLAS TURNER): Males: 2 (20-30) Females: 2 (20-30) 1 (45-) ------------------- Known children of NICHOLAS TURNER: WILLIAM (m. FRANCES ____) b. ca 1788 VA--w.p. 1864 KY NANCY (m. WILLIAM PHELPS) b. ca 1807 VA--d. unknown VA) Possible children of NICHOLAS TURNER: JOSEPH TURNER (m. LYDIA ____) b. ca 1790* VA--d. unknown (1850: age 60] LUCINDA _____ (m. THOMAS HOOD) b. ca 1784 VA--d. unknown [1850: age 66] SOPHIA TURNER (m. JESSE HOOD) b. ca 1790* VA--d. unknown [1850: age 60] SARAH _____ (m. CHARLES HOOD) b. ca 1798 VA--d. unknown [1850: age 52] --------------------- James Rogers, a descendant of NANCY TURNER PHELPS--NICHOLAS' daughter, lives in Appomattox County, VA, and attends the same Red Oak Baptist Church that NICHOLAS and JUDITH attended. He says he hasn't yet done much on his TURNER line, but is interested. He can be reached at: [email protected] James believes that NICHOLAS might have been the son of ANDREW TURNER, an early landholder (deceased by 1800) in old Buckingham, in the vicinity of Wreck Island Creek. Here's a recent email from James: >>>>> "The Turners, Hoods, Phelps, Rogers and Hamners lived on Wreck Island Creek and attended Red Oak Baptist Church. That is my home church and I have the old records but they only list Nicholas and Judith with no dates. Nicholas' wife was Judith who I believe but have no proof to date was a Phelps. I think the Turners, Hoods and Hamners intermarried and I know one Hamner who was named Wyatt and he was an early clerk of Red Oak Church. I dont know who Nicholas' father was for sure but I believe him to be Andrew Turner. Andrew is found in the 1787 tax list for Buckingham Co. VA. Andrew is listed in the 1782 tax list and a John Turner is listed in Buckingham in that year also so he could be a potential father to Nicholas but I doubt it as he was from another area of the county. In 1780 Andrew patented 424 acres on the south branches of Wreck Island Creek. This is near where I live and it was on the Albemarle/Bedford (later Buckingham/Campbell co.) border where one of my Phelps ancestors lived. It is now present Appomattox Co. This is the same area where Nicholas lived. >From Campbell Co. Va. deedbook. 1784-179 deedbook.... p.189 Jan. 1 1787 Andrew Turner of Buckingham to John Hunter of Campbell 320a on Wreck Island Creek bounded by James Phelps. Andrew made his mark p. 191 Jan. 1 1787 Andrew to Charles Hall 100a in Campbell on head branches of Wreck Island Creek." >>>>> -------------------- NICHOLAS TURNER of PRINCESS ANNE COUNTY: NICHOLAS TURNER appears not to have been a very common name in 18/19th c. VA--nothing in the census or tax lists that I've seen before 1810. In 1810, there are only two, and the second listing appears in Princess Anne County, as "NICHOLAS TURNER, F B." No household is listed--all blanks, except for 3 people in the end column for "other free persons in that family." The only other Turner found in 1810 Princess Anne County is a "SAMPSON TURNER, F B" with a similar listing. Both of these entries appear to be for free born black families, perhaps former slaves. Whether this Nicholas Turner bears any relation to our NICHOLAS in Buckingham isn't known. ----------------- Possible NICHOLAS HAMNER connection: [Taken from the Internet: http://members.fortunecity.com/phamner/41.htm] http://www.angelfire.com/biz6/dciris/hamner.html http://members.fortunecity.com/phamner/2612.htm] NICHOLAS HAMNER SR. Birth: Abt 1640, New Poquoson Parish, York County, Virginia Married (1): Bef 1675 Death: November 1703, York County or Bruton Parish, James City County, Virginia JOAN TURNER She is thought to be Joan Hamner who came to the colonies in 1635. Though no record is known to exist to substantiate her name, some credence can be given to support this theory, by the fact that at least 3 later generations of Hamner men were named "Turner." Even before the union with the James Turner family. NICHOLAS HAMNER, JR. He and three of his sons-Robert, Henry, and William moved to Albemarle County and established their homes on the Hardware River. Note: First record of a family member moving west to Albemarle. Signed Oath of Allegiance of Albemarle County. "Virginia Public Claims-Albemarle County", pg 55. -END- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com