Hi, all; In re-reading the message, I realized there was one more thing I needed to mention. There was a question about copying things from Internet sources. In approving a pioneer certification or other such situations, the online references are usually accepted IF THEY ARE (PRINTED OUT) COPIES OF DIGITIZED INFORMATION (land grants, actual marriage, baptism, census, etc.) Where most people fall down on the documentation is that an indexed entry which SAYS when and where people were married, for instance, is not considered primary evidence because it is NOT the actual record, just something that someone may have misread before entering it on the website. I have several instances where the actual document does not say what the transcriber thought it said. In the same light, many areas publish typewritten indexes for their historic records, giving names, dates, places, etc. A copy of that index page is not usually acceptable as primary evidence unless there is some kind of caveat that goes with it saying specifically that the original records have been lost and the indexes are all there is to go on. Another tough situation. Best wishes, Ann