Tim and All, So sorry for you Tim..Been there done that ! As some of you know, I just went a go-around with Virii myself and in the process I discovered some things I didnt know. You can sometimes remove of of those Nasty's using Safe Mode when you bootup. Because your PC has only loaded essential drivers in that mode, the Virii isnt running, and you can zap it from there ! Another trick is to check your MSConfig...type it into your "find" feature, click it when it comes up..look in the Start up tab for suspicious programs and uncheck it...be careful here ..you have to know the programs name so you dont screw things up. If you do get the wrong thing unchecked its reversable..just go back and recheck it. Reboot and the Nasty is isolated and cant run till you can figure out how to get rid of it. The one I got tangeled with was" Popmonster"...and a couple of Adwares at the same time..what a mess ! Running Spybot..a free download from Tucows...got rid of the adware..and Trendmicro's Housecall found the Trojan..but it took a Techy friend to rid my machine ! I wouldnt wish this problem on my worst enemy..so please be careful My Friends ! BJ _________________________________________________________________ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn