Carolyn Thanks much for the information. Rick Carson

This morning we made quite a few updates to the McCreary County KyGenWeb. We added some picture postcards, McCreary Record articles, deaths, and some other things. If you would like to check it out below is the link. http://www.geocities.com/megansperky/index.html?1051947117110 We are still looking for contributions. If you would like to contribute to this site send your contributions to: megansperky@yahoo.com GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

The Star Press, Muncie, Delaware County, Indiana, Friday, July 18, 2003, page 7A. Fred Dolen, 68 MUNCIE - Fred Dolen, 68, died Thursday morning at home after a long illness. Born in (Shoopman) Kentucky, he moved to Muncie in 1957. He worked at New Venture Gear (now Manual Transmissions of Muncie) for 28 years before his retirement in 1997. Surviving: two sons, Barry and Rodney Dolen; a daughter, Stacy Needler; eight grandchildren; two great-grandchildren; a sister, Flora Frady; and two brothers, Roger and Philip Dolen. Preceded in death: a daughter, (Tammy) a sister and four brothers. Services: 2:30 p.m. Monday, Meeks Mortuary. (Muncie, Indiana) Burial: Woodlawn Cemetery, Springport. (Henry County, Indiana) Calling: at the mortuary 2-6 p.m. Sunday or an hour before services Monday. Online condolences: meeksmortuary@iquest.net . Carolyn S. Beard _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Sorry to hear about Fred Dolen he was my husband Noble Ledbetter's Uncle he has two sisters passed on Edna Dolen Ledbetter and Georgia Dolen Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn beard" <carolynsbeard@hotmail.com> To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:17 PM Subject: [KYMCCREA] Fred Dolen Obit > The Star Press, Muncie, Delaware County, Indiana, Friday, July 18, 2003, > page 7A. > Fred Dolen, 68 > > MUNCIE - Fred Dolen, 68, died Thursday morning at home after a long illness. > > Born in (Shoopman) Kentucky, he moved to Muncie in 1957. He worked at New > Venture Gear (now Manual Transmissions of Muncie) for 28 years before his > retirement in 1997. > > Surviving: two sons, Barry and Rodney Dolen; a daughter, Stacy Needler; > eight grandchildren; two great-grandchildren; a sister, Flora Frady; and two > brothers, Roger and Philip Dolen. > > Preceded in death: a daughter, (Tammy) a sister and four brothers. > > Services: 2:30 p.m. Monday, Meeks Mortuary. (Muncie, Indiana) > > Burial: Woodlawn Cemetery, Springport. (Henry County, Indiana) > > Calling: at the mortuary 2-6 p.m. Sunday or an hour before services Monday. > > Online condolences: meeksmortuary@iquest.net . > > > > Carolyn S. Beard > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political announcements, current events, items for > sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) > is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration > for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi All! We have added quite a bit of new information at the McCreary County KyGenWeb site. Just to name some we have added new deaths for the last names beginning with D and E, new postcards of the Stearns area in the good old days, plus a postcard of Barthel Mining Camp. Come on in and check it out there is other stuff that is new too. Della Perez CC for McCreary County KyGenWeb GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

I would like to her about it also. I am related to a Coffey and a Sellars in that area. Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gina.Goodrich@mail.state.ky.us> To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: [KYMCCREA] John Coffey and William (Bill) Terry shootings > Has anyone ever heard of a shooting between John Coffey and Tinker Sellers > in the late 1800's? or William (Bill) Terry Bill was shot and killed in 1921 > in McCreary County KY. Thanks Gina > > > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are > on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Has anyone ever heard of a shooting between John Coffey and Tinker Sellers in the late 1800's? or William (Bill) Terry Bill was shot and killed in 1921 in McCreary County KY. Thanks Gina

Greetings Sue: No, I never did like my name. No one could pronounce it. I've been called everything from Kenners to Kim & even Kenya. My Mom while growing up here in McCreary Co., KY had a friend who's name was Kenna Laxton. Mom said she'd always liked the name. Mom was wanting a boy who was to be named after his father. My parents are Kenneth Austin & Mary Ayline Duncan. I was named Kenna Alyne and born in Feb of 1954. The only other Kenna I knew of was the d/o Mom's 2nd cousin Sue Privett Roberts. Her daughter's name is Kenna Sue & was born in the 60's. She was named after her dad & mom. While searching through Genforum I ran across a posting from a Kenna Austin. Naturally I wondered what I had posted since I didn't remember posting anything in this forum. This Kenna was also named after her father Kenneth but she married into the Austin family. She mentioned that she'd ran across another Kenna on the internet. I belive that Hoppy Herman Hamlin's son had an Aunt Kenna King. My Mom is wondering if you are from McCreary Co., KY. She also wonders what year your husband would of graduated in. I think she is trying to place a face if possible. I relocated here from Cinti over 20 years ago. Kay has been the librarian ever since I started going there. Our library is located in Whitley City KY but I believe Kay lives in Stearns. Well Sue it was nice talking to you, Kenna "Remember to the world you are just one person, but maybe to one person you are the world." ----- Original Message ----- From: <KDJ1933@aol.com> To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] Ernest Ramsey > Dear Kenna, (What a beautiful name!) > > In looking over the information we received from you, I was surprise and > pleased to see your name "Kenna." > > The name Kenna is not so common, I know, because our 1st daughter has your > name as well. When we named her Kenna our friends thought we should have named > her Kenna Sue, however, I chose to name her Kenna Ann. Ann, after her Aunt > Barbara Ann. Many times afterwards, I have wished that I had name her Kenna Sue. > The reason being, my middle name is Sue and I go by Sue. My husband's name is > Kenneth. > > I never realized that my Kenna did not like her name until one day in her > high school days, she mentioned she did not like her name because no one else had > her name. We lived in NC at the time and one day my sister-in-law Vienna, who > lived in CA, but actually is from Hill Top, KY, sent us a newspaper article > of a picture of a beautiful girl who had won some type of contest. She sent the > article for Kenna's benefit. Then one day I notice that one of the ladies at > our local bank had a last name of "McKenna." > > Well, college does make a difference and one day Kenna and I have the same > conversation again about her name. Only this time she was telling me how much > she loved her name, that she is the only one at Southern University, that has > that name and she loved that! > > I have always loved the name Kenna from the first time I heard of it in 1960. > We lived in CA when our Kenna was born. My husband worked with a lady whose > brother lived in OR and his wife had just had a baby girl and they names her > Kenna Sue. The little girls father was named Kenneth, just like my husband. I > though, what a neat idea! my baby will be name Kenna if she is a girl. > > My Kenna was born February 17, 1961, in Riverside, CA, making her 42 years > old. People have always commented how pretty her name is. Throughout the years, > I have only known of one other person name Kenna. This lady is a school > teacher here in CA and probably 15 or so years older than my daughter. > > I wonder, do you like your name Kenna? If you care to share, I would be > delighted to hear how you got your name. Are you originally from KY? My husband is > the son of the late Theo and Esther Jones of Hill Top. One of his cousins is > the librarian at the Stearnes Library. Her name is Kay Morrow. If you have the > time, I would love to hear from you. > > Best Regards, > Sue Jones - Riverside, CA > > > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political announcements, current events, items for > sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) > is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration > for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Kenna, (What a beautiful name!) In looking over the information we received from you, I was surprise and pleased to see your name "Kenna." The name Kenna is not so common, I know, because our 1st daughter has your name as well. When we named her Kenna our friends thought we should have named her Kenna Sue, however, I chose to name her Kenna Ann. Ann, after her Aunt Barbara Ann. Many times afterwards, I have wished that I had name her Kenna Sue. The reason being, my middle name is Sue and I go by Sue. My husband's name is Kenneth. I never realized that my Kenna did not like her name until one day in her high school days, she mentioned she did not like her name because no one else had her name. We lived in NC at the time and one day my sister-in-law Vienna, who lived in CA, but actually is from Hill Top, KY, sent us a newspaper article of a picture of a beautiful girl who had won some type of contest. She sent the article for Kenna's benefit. Then one day I notice that one of the ladies at our local bank had a last name of "McKenna." Well, college does make a difference and one day Kenna and I have the same conversation again about her name. Only this time she was telling me how much she loved her name, that she is the only one at Southern University, that has that name and she loved that! I have always loved the name Kenna from the first time I heard of it in 1960. We lived in CA when our Kenna was born. My husband worked with a lady whose brother lived in OR and his wife had just had a baby girl and they names her Kenna Sue. The little girls father was named Kenneth, just like my husband. I though, what a neat idea! my baby will be name Kenna if she is a girl. My Kenna was born February 17, 1961, in Riverside, CA, making her 42 years old. People have always commented how pretty her name is. Throughout the years, I have only known of one other person name Kenna. This lady is a school teacher here in CA and probably 15 or so years older than my daughter. I wonder, do you like your name Kenna? If you care to share, I would be delighted to hear how you got your name. Are you originally from KY? My husband is the son of the late Theo and Esther Jones of Hill Top. One of his cousins is the librarian at the Stearnes Library. Her name is Kay Morrow. If you have the time, I would love to hear from you. Best Regards, Sue Jones - Riverside, CA

I'm sorry for the confusion, I seen Richard Shuck's name on the Kentucky Hanging list on your site and he was hung in Henry County. He was hung separate from the Goodrich's but on the same date, the Goodrich's and Richard were connected in these murders infact one of them married Richards daughter. Anyway, thank you. Gina -----Original Message----- From: Bridget42653@yahoo.com [mailto:bridget42653@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:34 AM To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [KYMCCREA] 1877 hangings? Thanks Gina for clearing that up for us. I wasn't sure myself where Henry Co. was. I checked and the hangings I have on my page are just a link from somewhere else. What I will do is add your contribution of those three lynchings in another area. Thanks again for sending them in. della GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Gina for clearing that up for us. I wasn't sure myself where Henry Co. was. I checked and the hangings I have on my page are just a link from somewhere else. What I will do is add your contribution of those three lynchings in another area. Thanks again for sending them in. della GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

it was in 1877, in Henry County KY, Henry County is not to far from Frankfort KY, -----Original Message----- From: AnnBergelt@aol.com [mailto:AnnBergelt@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:41 PM To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYMCCREA] 1877 hangings? Hi, Did I misunderstand the message about the 3 persons hanged in McCreary County? I thought it said the event was in 1877, but wasn't McCreary County created about 1912? Thanks, Ann ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi! Isn't it a shame though about them even calling it just a hanging when it was actually a lynching. The paper should have said it that way shouldn't they have. Della GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Your right Ann about McCreary being created in 1912 but Gina doesn't say in her message that the hangings took place in McCreary County. It was reported in the Henry County Paper she said so I am assuming by that they were hung in that county. But I am not sure. On the McCreary county site the list of people that were hung, there are 3 names missing according to the Henry County KY newspaper and the Richard Shuck deposition Robert Goodrich, Samuel Goodrich and Joseph Goodrich were hung also White, for robbery-murder, 27 July 1877 it appears that the people of the town broke them out of jail and hung them from Drennon Bridge. Thanks Gina GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

It is not in McCreary Co, Ky, in Henry Co. Ky. where ever that is, which I have never heard of it before. How are you doing these days on the Morgan's? I was thinking about you the other day. You are not going to believe it, but I e-mailed the hangings of the 3 men in Henry Co. Ky. to a person in Frankfort, Ky. today. Boy! did I ever get something started. I just sent it for her to read it and would you believe she knows a neighbor down the street that they were just talking about the hangings, which I don't know her friend. But, her friend is a great niece of the Robert Shuck one of the hanging men in Henry Co. Now, the one that contribute the hangings on the site just might be a cousin to the one that is the neighbor to the one I have been e-mailing all winter. Can you bet this! I don't even know or have never seen this neighbor that my e-mailer knows. Gosh. ----- Original Message ----- From: <AnnBergelt@aol.com> To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: [KYMCCREA] 1877 hangings? > Hi, > > Did I misunderstand the message about the 3 persons hanged in McCreary > County? > > I thought it said the event was in 1877, but wasn't McCreary County created > about 1912? > > Thanks, > > Ann > > > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are > on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, Did I misunderstand the message about the 3 persons hanged in McCreary County? I thought it said the event was in 1877, but wasn't McCreary County created about 1912? Thanks, Ann

I would like to see the picture of Eskar Phillips. He is not related, but have been told that he preached my grandfather's funeral in 1933. Thanks, Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich & Teresa" <rtbrewer@earthlink.net> To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:27 PM Subject: [KYMCCREA] Photographs of Burl Turpin and Eskar Phillips > Hi List, > > We recently uncovered an old photo album with pictures of the men listed > above > with my grandparents, Rev. John William and Rebecca Worley. We have made > tentative identification. If there are any Turpin or Phillips families on > the > list I would be happy to e-mail you a copy of the photos and you can verify > their identities. Teresa > > > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are > on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Margy - a lovely, well articulated message, as always from you. I will be happy to accept any files you feel appropriate for the McCreary County Archives at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/mccreary/mccreary.html While the Archives in no way whatsoever can compare to the work you have done, the Archives would be proud to house the information you so diligently collected and made available to researchers for so long. Speaking of that very thing, I'm anxiously awaiting your printing of the 1930 Whitley County Census book!!!!! Bonnie

Hi Everyone ... As all of you who know me, know, I don't involve myself in these back and forth "competitions" (for lack of a better word) that inevitably appear in online genealogy.... but I feel you deserve an explanation about one thing so here it goes. Thank you for taking time to read it. When I left the GenWeb project, I *had* to remove my website. It was not hosted on a free site. I had to pay for it every month. All of you who have seen it knows how big it was - that was a problem for me and for my server ..... and not having loads of money, I could not just leave it there. After removing my files from the net, I contacted the new McCreary GenWeb CC and explained that I respect people's copyrights and ownership so I *could* not give her any major file that was contributed without the owner's permission (there was only one and the owner had already told me that she did not want it put back online). **BUT at the same time, I told her that I would give her all my files that were "user-contributed" by more than one person.** That meant all the death certificates. I started sending them to her and she emailed me not to send anymore because all my files are in HTML code and she couldn't use them. I figured that she would eventually learn HTML -- because I don't know how one maintains a website without it (my ignorance perhaps) -- and that she would THEN be able to post the death certificates. I never heard anything more about it so in order to keep them online for all of you, I have been trying to decide if they should go on the MPCPS (McCreary Pioneers Cemetery Preservation Society) website with the cemeteries (which I host). That decision has not been made yet for several reasons. I just thought you should know. Most of my McCreary site came about from just plain old dedication and downright gruesome hard work and any contributions (such as pictures, etc) were there more as a courtesy to the contributor than anything else - to help them make connections with other site users. When I took my site down, I did not feel that I had a right to pass anyone's pictures onto someone else. I figured anyone who had a picture or something posted on my site would want to decide for themselves if they wanted it posted to a different site. But something like the death certificates was different because it was a huge database of records from many different people. (I hope I am wording this so that it is clear and not confusing.) Please remember when you do online research that whatever website you go to involves lots of hard work by someone - and aside from the many "pay-per-view" sites that are popping up, all of it is done by volunteers. We do not get paid to do this. The only other files I had that would fit into the category of the death certificates was the marriage and birth databases. Those are large databases that involve some very technical setups - they cannot be hosted on free sites. Those databases were never McCreary GenWeb databases - they were on my "Down Home" site AND they are all STILL there. <http://www.pastseeker.com/crr> Some may have been confused by that because I linked to them from the McCreary site. But I started the "Down Home" site way way back in 1997 (I think it was) when I started the CRR (Down Home) List and it is still online but has NEVER been a part of the GenWeb project or Rootsweb in ANY way.... it is just something I did and still maintain completely on my own. It has nothing to do with ANY project in any way. It is just my private site. I hope this helps to clear things up. I am not the kind of person who would take things from anyone and not give back and it is hurtful for anyone to insinuate that I would. During my time with GenWeb (or any other time) I held and still hold the utmost respect for all of you who love family history as I do. I *LOVE* McCreary County and it was very hard to give up the website - I know that it meant a lot to a lot of people. But I know I made the right decision to leave the Rootsweb organization for my own conscience and I do not regret that at all. I thought you all should know. I am sure that the new McCreary CC will do a great job for you and I hope that everyone who plans to benefit from her work will give her the support that she is asking for. It is not an easy task that she has taken on. Sincerely, Margy

Margy, thanks for the kind words at the end of your message. Hopefully some people will feel inclined to contribute. But, we must have got our wires crossed somewhere. You have already sent me one or two death certificates some time back and I do have them listed on the new McCreary County KyGenWeb site. I have been waiting for you to send the rest. Now I see why you haven't done that lol. We had our wires crossed evidently. I can use them and am using the ones you sent. Sorry about the misunderstanding with the deaths. I just don't know how that happened but I am glad that we now have it straightened out. Thanks again for your kind words. Della GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!