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Sharon Johnson: I'd like pictures and any info you have to share. How much do you need? I'd like it for my Mom's cousin Jimmi Ayline Crabtree Stanley, d/o James Ab Crabtree, Sr. & Flora Jane Duncan & her sisters. Thanks for sharing the below. You helped me connect floating Crabtrees to a parent. I hope you all can see the green font. Thats what I added to what you supplied. Re the two males in red - I have no idea whom they belong too. As for the blue font that is for my future use. Again thanks, Kenna ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1850 Census - Crabtree, Jesse TN Scott County 18th District 895 360 [s/o Jesse & Elizabeth (Smith) Crabtree] 2 2 James Crabtree, 24, Male, Farmer, born in Tennessee (date of 1848 is listed in the married column) Elizabeth Crabtree, 23, Female, born in Tennessee [s/o Samuel Crabtree & Sarah Markam] 0 3 Jessee Crabtree, 50, male, Blacksmith, born in VA (date of 1820 listed in the Married column) Elizabeth [Smith] Crabtree, 48, Female, born in VA Nancy Smith, 64 Female, born in VA Margaret Crabtree, 12, Female, born in Tennessee [Privett Mt., Winfield, Scott Co., TN] William Crabtree, 9, Male, born in Tennessee Robert Smith, 70, Male, Carpenter, born in VA Margaret F, Smith, 28, Female, born in Tennessee [Would this be the 2nd wife of Robert with Nancy being his first and their children?] William Smith, 13, Male, born in Tennessee R.F. Smith, 11?, Male , born in Tennessee J.C. Smith, 4, Male, born in Tennessee F.M. Smith, 1, Male, born in Tennessee Eliza Smith, 3, Female, born in Tennessee Marriages of Claiborne/Campbell Co., TN 1838-53, Campbell County, Marriages, 1838-1853, Page 72 (Campbell County is directly across the border from Whitley County KY... eventually parts of this County turned into McCreary County.) - Absolom Crabtree to [Louisa] Jane Cooper, Nov 1, 1845. D/O Alvis Cooper & Mary Ann (Polly) Lowe. Census Microfilm Records: Kentucky, 1860 State: Kentucky, County: WAYNE, Locale: MONTICELLO P O Series: M653, Roll: 399 Part: 1 Page: 299 [s/o Jesse & Elizabeth (Smith) Crabtree] 457 452 Absolom Crabtree, 35, Male, Gunsmith, Born In Tennessee Jane, 30 Female, born in Tennessee Jesse, 10, Male, born in Tennessee [ma. Hannah Smith] William, 10, Male, born in Tennessee Absolom, 6, Male, born in Kentucky James, 4, Male, born in Kentucky Louisa, 2, Female, born in Kentucky Mary E., 1/12, born in Kentucky [s/o Jesse & Elizabeth (Smith) Crabtree] 458 453 William Crabstree, 40?, Male, born in Tennessee Emily, 39, Female, born in Tennessee Mary Ann, 18 Female, born in Tennessee Julia H.?, 16 Female, born in Tennessee John, 13 Male, born in Tennessee Abigail, 11 Female, , born in Tennessee Landon C.H., 5 Male, born in Tennessee 459 454 Jesse Crabtree, 60, Male, Gunsmith, born in Tennessee Betsy Crabtree, 58? Female, born in Tennessee William J. 19, Male, day laborer born in Tennessee Jackson, 21 Male, day Laborer, born in Tennessee In the "Scott County Tennessee and Its Families" - ..."Jesse Crabtree was born about 1800. He married Elizabeth about 1820. he is listed in the 1830 and 1840 census' of Campbell County. The 1850 Census lists him in Scott County. About 1855 he moved to Wayne County, KY., his occupation was as unsmith/blacksmith. His children were James, William, Margaret (according to census of 1830 1840 1850 he had four sons and two daughters). [Absolom & Bertha - but I also have Abner Crabtree, Frank Crabtree, Jackson Crabtree & Samuel Crabtree- any suggestions ?] In 1848 records show that Jesse gave 50 acres of land to his son James (Located in the 13th district of Campbell County on the Rock House fork of Buffalo and the East Fork of New River.) James Married 1.) Elizabeth Smith on April 26 1850. They are listed in the 1850 census of Scott County their children were: Mary m. Fredrick Trammel; William m Melvina Trammell (a sister to Fredrick Trammell [c/o Jarrett Trammell & Lavinia Marcum]; Margaret m Henry [Sheridan] Adkins; [s/o John (Jackie) Stanton Adkins & Mary [Polly] Saunders]; John m Nancy Macum, [Poss. d/o George Washington Marcum & Mary Ann Hanks. Does anyone know if she is?]; Richard m Amanda Emmaline Shelton, Absulam marred Sarah E. Freels. James Married 2.) Bethany Claxton in Campbell County on June 1 1865. They had no children." ...."Jesse Crabtree was rumored to have been a friend to the James Brothers, Frank and Jesse. He was a farmer, blacksmith and was said to have been a fine counterfeiter.... [The James Brothers were suppose to have stayed a short time in Scott Co., TN] ..."ancestors came to Scott County from England by way of VA., KY and the Fentress County and finally into Scott County..."

Connie, Hi. Here is the 1860 Wayne County entry for them. Since Jesse is 10 and born in Tennesse they were probably in Tennessee in the 1850 census BUT I checked for an Absolom Crabtree in Tenn. and none were indexed. In fact no Crabtrees came up for the 1850 census in Tennessee. Carolyn 1860 Wayne County, Kentucky MONTICELLO P O Series: M653 Roll: 399 Page: 299 CRABTREE ABSOLOM 35 M W TN gunsmith $200 KY WAYNE Jane 30 F W TN (Louisa Jane Cooper) Jesse 12??? 10 M W TN age hard to read - looks like 10 but might be 12. William 10 M W TN Absolom 6 M W KY James 4 M W KY Louisa 2 F W KY Mary E. 1/12 F W KY >From: "Connie Quigley" <iceman058@msn.com> >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] To Dee Miller >Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:08:35 +0000 > >Oops I meant Absolom Crabtree and Jane. I am trying to find them in the >1850 census records. Hi Dee. Didn't know you were on here. Do you have them >in the 1850 census? Do you know where they were living then? I'm filling >out my family tree maker and need info on where I find ancestors. >Connie > > >>From: "Dee Miller" <deektnge@bellsouth.net> >>Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >>To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:31:21 -0500 >> >>Connie, which Jesse are you looking for? The Jane, is she the one who >>married Abslom Sr., ot Jr? Dee >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: carolyn beard <carolynsbeard@hotmail.com> >>To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:36 PM >>Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >> >> >> > Connie, Hi They weren't listed in the index of the census service that >>I >> > have. There were other Jesse Crabtrees in Wayne, Whitley and McCreary >> > County in other Census years but none could have been this one. >> > Carolyn >> > >> > >> > >From: "Connie Quigley" <iceman058@msn.com> >> > >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >> > >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >> > >Subject: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >> > >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:09:49 -0700 >> > > >> > >Could someone please see if they can find a Jesse and Jane Crabtree in >>the >> > >1850 McCreary Co KY census? Thank you. >> > >Connie Q. >> > > >> > > >> > >==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== >> > >If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only >>the >> > >word >> > >UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are >> > >on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> > > >> > >============================== >> > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>records, >> > >go to: >> > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > >> > >> > >> > Carolyn S. Beard >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >> > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >> > >> > >> > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== >> > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain >> > letters, political announcements, current events, items for >> > sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) >> > is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration >> > for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett >> > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net >> > >> > ============================== >> > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >>records, >>go to: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >> > >> >> >>==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== >>If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the >>word >>UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are >>on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >>go to: >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== >If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the >word >UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are >on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > Carolyn S. Beard _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Thank you Sharon for the info on the Crabtrees. I wonder how come it doesn't show Absolom and Jane in 1850? Can't seem to find them anywhere. They were married in 1845 so they should be in the 1850 census. Thanks anyway. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Johnson To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: RE: [KYMCCREA] Jesse & Absolom Crabtree I found these Crabtree's and I believe they are who you are looking for. I am not directly related to this line. At best, I'm distantly related to someone who married your distant cousin. Enjoy! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1850 Census Crabtree, Jesse TN Scott County 18th District 895 360 2 2 James Crabtree, 24, Male, Farmer, born in Tennessee (date of 1848 is listed in the married column) Elizabeth Crabtree, 23, Female, born in Tennessee 0 3 Jessee Crabtree, 50, male, Blacksmith, born in VA (date of 1820 listed in the Married column) Elizabeth Crabtree, 48, Female, born in VA Nancy Smith, 64 Female, born in VA Margaret Crabtree, 12, Female, born in Tennessee William Crabtree, 9, Male, born in Tennessee Robert Smith, 70, Male, Carpenter, born in VA Margaret F, Smith, 28, Female, born in Tennessee William Smith, 13, Male, born in Tennessee R.F. Smith, 11?, Male , born in Tennessee J.C. Smith, 4, Male, born in Tennessee F.M. Smith, 1, Male, born in Tennessee Eliza Smith, 3, Female, born in Tennessee Marriages of Claiborne/Campbell Co., TN 1838-53, Campbell County, Marriages, 1838-1853, Page 72 (Campbell County is directly across the border from Whitley County KY... eventually parts of this County turned into McCreary County.) Absolom Crabtree to Jane Cooper, Nov 1, 1845. Census Microfilm Records: Kentucky, 1860 State: Kentucky, County: WAYNE, Locale: MONTICELLO P O Series: M653, Roll: 399 Part: 1 Page: 299 457 452 Absolom Crabtree, 35, Male, Gunsmith, Born In Tennessee Jane, 30 Female, born in Tennessee Jesse, 10, Male, born in Tennessee William, 10, Male, born in Tennessee Absolom, 6, Male, born in Kentucky James, 4, Male, born in Kentucky Louisa, 2, Female, born in Kentucky Mary E., 1/12, born in Kentucky Next door is: 458 453 William Crabstree, 40?, Male, born in Tennessee Emily, 39, Female, born in Tennessee Mary Ann, 18 Female, born in Tennessee Julia H.?, 16 Female, born in Tennessee John, 13 Male, born in Tennessee Abigail, 11 Female, , born in Tennessee Landon C.H., 5 Male, born in Tennessee Then, Next door to William: 459 454 Jesse Crabtree, 60, Male, Gunsmith, born in Tennessee Betsy Crabtree, 58? Female, born in Tennessee William J. 19, Male, day laborer born in Tennessee Jackson, 21 Male, day Laborer, born in Tennessee And then finally, in the "Scott County Tennessee and Its Families" I found the following: ..."Jesse Crabtree was born about 1800. He married Elizabeth about 1820. he is listed in the 1830 and 1840 census' of Campbell County. The 1850 Census lists him in Scott County. about 1855 he moved to Wayne County, KY., his occupation was as a gunsmith/blacksmith. His children were James, William, Margaret (according to census of 1830 1840 1850 he had four sons and two daughters). In 1848 records show that Jesse gave 50 acres of land to his son James (Located in the 13th district of Campbell County on the Rock House fork of Buffalo and the East For of New River.) James Married 1.) Elizabeth Smith on April 26 1850. They are listed in the 1850 census of Scott County their children were: Mary m. Fredrick Trammel; William m Melvina Trammell (a sister to Fredrick Trammell; Margaret m Henry Adkins; John m Nancy Macu, Richard m Amanda Emmaline Shelton, Absulam marred Sarah E. Freels. James Married 2.) Bethany Claxton in Campbell County on June 1 1865. They had no children." ...."Jesse Crabtree was rumored to have been a friend to the James Brothers, Frank and Jesse. He was a farmer, blacksmith and was said to have been a fine counterfeiter.... ..."ancestors came to Scott County from England by way of VA., KY and the Fentress County and finally into Scott County..." There is more on this line, including some pictures. If you are interested, let me know, and I will snail mail the information to you. -----Original Message----- From: Connie Quigley [mailto:iceman058@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:12 PM To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please I made a mistake. It was suppose to be Absolom Crabtree and Jane. ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thank you Carolyn for the 1860 census of Absolom and Jane Crabtree. I still need to find them in 1850. I'll try them in the IGI records if I can. Thanks. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: carolyn beard To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] To Dee Miller Connie, Hi. Here is the 1860 Wayne County entry for them. Since Jesse is 10 and born in Tennesse they were probably in Tennessee in the 1850 census BUT I checked for an Absolom Crabtree in Tenn. and none were indexed. In fact no Crabtrees came up for the 1850 census in Tennessee. Carolyn 1860 Wayne County, Kentucky MONTICELLO P O Series: M653 Roll: 399 Page: 299 CRABTREE ABSOLOM 35 M W TN gunsmith $200 KY WAYNE Jane 30 F W TN (Louisa Jane Cooper) Jesse 12??? 10 M W TN age hard to read - looks like 10 but might be 12. William 10 M W TN Absolom 6 M W KY James 4 M W KY Louisa 2 F W KY Mary E. 1/12 F W KY >From: "Connie Quigley" <iceman058@msn.com> >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] To Dee Miller >Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:08:35 +0000 > >Oops I meant Absolom Crabtree and Jane. I am trying to find them in the >1850 census records. Hi Dee. Didn't know you were on here. Do you have them >in the 1850 census? Do you know where they were living then? I'm filling >out my family tree maker and need info on where I find ancestors. >Connie > > >>From: "Dee Miller" <deektnge@bellsouth.net> >>Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >>To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:31:21 -0500 >> >>Connie, which Jesse are you looking for? The Jane, is she the one who >>married Abslom Sr., ot Jr? Dee >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: carolyn beard <carolynsbeard@hotmail.com> >>To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:36 PM >>Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >> >> >> > Connie, Hi They weren't listed in the index of the census service that >>I >> > have. There were other Jesse Crabtrees in Wayne, Whitley and McCreary >> > County in other Census years but none could have been this one. >> > Carolyn >> > >> > >> > >From: "Connie Quigley" <iceman058@msn.com> >> > >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >> > >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >> > >Subject: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >> > >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:09:49 -0700 >> > > >> > >Could someone please see if they can find a Jesse and Jane Crabtree in >>the >> > >1850 McCreary Co KY census? 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Sharon, thanks so much for this info., I would love to have the picture's you have spoken of. My line; James Ab Crabtree/Eldora Strunk Cordell, Absolom Crabtree Jr/Jane Gregory, Absolom Crabtree Sr/Jane Cooper. DeVonda Crabtree Miller 3100 Roberts Rd. J-11 Knoxville, TN 37924 Ph; 865-932-6115 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Johnson <sharon-johnson@shootingstarsolutions.com> To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: RE: [KYMCCREA] Jesse & Absolom Crabtree > I found these Crabtree's and I believe they are who you are looking for. I > am not directly related to this line. At best, I'm distantly related to > someone who married your distant cousin. > > Enjoy! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 1850 Census > Crabtree, Jesse TN Scott County 18th District 895 360 > 2 2 James Crabtree, 24, Male, Farmer, born in Tennessee (date of 1848 is > listed in the married column) > Elizabeth Crabtree, 23, Female, born in Tennessee > 0 3 Jessee Crabtree, 50, male, Blacksmith, born in VA (date of 1820 listed > in the Married column) > Elizabeth Crabtree, 48, Female, born in VA > Nancy Smith, 64 Female, born in VA > Margaret Crabtree, 12, Female, born in Tennessee > William Crabtree, 9, Male, born in Tennessee > Robert Smith, 70, Male, Carpenter, born in VA > Margaret F, Smith, 28, Female, born in Tennessee > William Smith, 13, Male, born in Tennessee > R.F. Smith, 11?, Male , born in Tennessee > J.C. Smith, 4, Male, born in Tennessee > F.M. Smith, 1, Male, born in Tennessee > Eliza Smith, 3, Female, born in Tennessee > > Marriages of Claiborne/Campbell Co., TN 1838-53, Campbell County, Marriages, > 1838-1853, Page 72 > (Campbell County is directly across the border from Whitley County KY... > eventually parts of this County turned into McCreary County.) > > Absolom Crabtree to Jane Cooper, Nov 1, 1845. > > Census Microfilm Records: Kentucky, 1860 > State: Kentucky, County: WAYNE, Locale: MONTICELLO P O > Series: M653, Roll: 399 Part: 1 Page: 299 > > 457 452 Absolom Crabtree, 35, Male, Gunsmith, Born In Tennessee > Jane, 30 Female, born in Tennessee > Jesse, 10, Male, born in Tennessee > William, 10, Male, born in Tennessee > Absolom, 6, Male, born in Kentucky > James, 4, Male, born in Kentucky > Louisa, 2, Female, born in Kentucky > Mary E., 1/12, born in Kentucky > > Next door is: > 458 453 William Crabstree, 40?, Male, born in Tennessee > Emily, 39, Female, born in Tennessee > Mary Ann, 18 Female, born in Tennessee > Julia H.?, 16 Female, born in Tennessee > John, 13 Male, born in Tennessee > Abigail, 11 Female, , born in Tennessee > Landon C.H., 5 Male, born in Tennessee > > Then, Next door to William: > 459 454 Jesse Crabtree, 60, Male, Gunsmith, born in Tennessee > Betsy Crabtree, 58? Female, born in Tennessee > William J. 19, Male, day laborer born in Tennessee > Jackson, 21 Male, day Laborer, born in Tennessee > > And then finally, in the "Scott County Tennessee and Its Families" I found > the following: > > ..."Jesse Crabtree was born about 1800. He married Elizabeth about 1820. he > is listed in the 1830 and 1840 census' of Campbell County. The 1850 Census > lists him in Scott County. about 1855 he moved to Wayne County, KY., his > occupation was as a gunsmith/blacksmith. His children were James, William, > Margaret (according to census of 1830 1840 1850 he had four sons and two > daughters). In 1848 records show that Jesse gave 50 acres of land to his > son James (Located in the 13th district of Campbell County on the Rock House > fork of Buffalo and the East For of New River.) > James Married 1.) Elizabeth Smith on April 26 1850. They are listed in the > 1850 census of Scott County their children were: Mary m. Fredrick Trammel; > William m Melvina Trammell (a sister to Fredrick Trammell; Margaret m Henry > Adkins; John m Nancy Macu, Richard m Amanda Emmaline Shelton, Absulam marred > Sarah E. Freels. > James Married 2.) Bethany Claxton in Campbell County on June 1 1865. They > had no children." > > ...."Jesse Crabtree was rumored to have been a friend to the James Brothers, > Frank and Jesse. He was a farmer, blacksmith and was said to have been a > fine counterfeiter.... > > ..."ancestors came to Scott County from England by way of VA., KY and the > Fentress County and finally into Scott County..." > > There is more on this line, including some pictures. If you are interested, > let me know, and I will snail mail the information to you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Connie Quigley [mailto:iceman058@msn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:12 PM > To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please > > > I made a mistake. It was suppose to be Absolom Crabtree and Jane. > > > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are > on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I found these Crabtree's and I believe they are who you are looking for. I am not directly related to this line. At best, I'm distantly related to someone who married your distant cousin. Enjoy! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1850 Census Crabtree, Jesse TN Scott County 18th District 895 360 2 2 James Crabtree, 24, Male, Farmer, born in Tennessee (date of 1848 is listed in the married column) Elizabeth Crabtree, 23, Female, born in Tennessee 0 3 Jessee Crabtree, 50, male, Blacksmith, born in VA (date of 1820 listed in the Married column) Elizabeth Crabtree, 48, Female, born in VA Nancy Smith, 64 Female, born in VA Margaret Crabtree, 12, Female, born in Tennessee William Crabtree, 9, Male, born in Tennessee Robert Smith, 70, Male, Carpenter, born in VA Margaret F, Smith, 28, Female, born in Tennessee William Smith, 13, Male, born in Tennessee R.F. Smith, 11?, Male , born in Tennessee J.C. Smith, 4, Male, born in Tennessee F.M. Smith, 1, Male, born in Tennessee Eliza Smith, 3, Female, born in Tennessee Marriages of Claiborne/Campbell Co., TN 1838-53, Campbell County, Marriages, 1838-1853, Page 72 (Campbell County is directly across the border from Whitley County KY... eventually parts of this County turned into McCreary County.) Absolom Crabtree to Jane Cooper, Nov 1, 1845. Census Microfilm Records: Kentucky, 1860 State: Kentucky, County: WAYNE, Locale: MONTICELLO P O Series: M653, Roll: 399 Part: 1 Page: 299 457 452 Absolom Crabtree, 35, Male, Gunsmith, Born In Tennessee Jane, 30 Female, born in Tennessee Jesse, 10, Male, born in Tennessee William, 10, Male, born in Tennessee Absolom, 6, Male, born in Kentucky James, 4, Male, born in Kentucky Louisa, 2, Female, born in Kentucky Mary E., 1/12, born in Kentucky Next door is: 458 453 William Crabstree, 40?, Male, born in Tennessee Emily, 39, Female, born in Tennessee Mary Ann, 18 Female, born in Tennessee Julia H.?, 16 Female, born in Tennessee John, 13 Male, born in Tennessee Abigail, 11 Female, , born in Tennessee Landon C.H., 5 Male, born in Tennessee Then, Next door to William: 459 454 Jesse Crabtree, 60, Male, Gunsmith, born in Tennessee Betsy Crabtree, 58? Female, born in Tennessee William J. 19, Male, day laborer born in Tennessee Jackson, 21 Male, day Laborer, born in Tennessee And then finally, in the "Scott County Tennessee and Its Families" I found the following: ..."Jesse Crabtree was born about 1800. He married Elizabeth about 1820. he is listed in the 1830 and 1840 census' of Campbell County. The 1850 Census lists him in Scott County. about 1855 he moved to Wayne County, KY., his occupation was as a gunsmith/blacksmith. His children were James, William, Margaret (according to census of 1830 1840 1850 he had four sons and two daughters). In 1848 records show that Jesse gave 50 acres of land to his son James (Located in the 13th district of Campbell County on the Rock House fork of Buffalo and the East For of New River.) James Married 1.) Elizabeth Smith on April 26 1850. They are listed in the 1850 census of Scott County their children were: Mary m. Fredrick Trammel; William m Melvina Trammell (a sister to Fredrick Trammell; Margaret m Henry Adkins; John m Nancy Macu, Richard m Amanda Emmaline Shelton, Absulam marred Sarah E. Freels. James Married 2.) Bethany Claxton in Campbell County on June 1 1865. They had no children." ...."Jesse Crabtree was rumored to have been a friend to the James Brothers, Frank and Jesse. He was a farmer, blacksmith and was said to have been a fine counterfeiter.... ..."ancestors came to Scott County from England by way of VA., KY and the Fentress County and finally into Scott County..." There is more on this line, including some pictures. If you are interested, let me know, and I will snail mail the information to you. -----Original Message----- From: Connie Quigley [mailto:iceman058@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:12 PM To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please I made a mistake. It was suppose to be Absolom Crabtree and Jane.

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I made a mistake. It was suppose to be Absolom Crabtree and Jane. I got my names mixed up. Sorry. I'm still looking for them. Thanks. Connie >From: "carolyn beard" <carolynsbeard@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:36:28 +0000 > >Connie, Hi They weren't listed in the index of the census service that I >have. There were other Jesse Crabtrees in Wayne, Whitley and McCreary >County in other Census years but none could have been this one. >Carolyn > > >>From: "Connie Quigley" <iceman058@msn.com> >>Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >>To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >>Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:09:49 -0700 >> >>Could someone please see if they can find a Jesse and Jane Crabtree in the >>1850 McCreary Co KY census? Thank you. >>Connie Q. >> >> >>==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== >>If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the >>word >>UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are >>on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >>go to: >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > >Carolyn S. Beard > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > >==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain >letters, political announcements, current events, items for >sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) >is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration >for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett >kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Oops I meant Absolom Crabtree and Jane. I am trying to find them in the 1850 census records. Hi Dee. Didn't know you were on here. Do you have them in the 1850 census? Do you know where they were living then? I'm filling out my family tree maker and need info on where I find ancestors. Connie >From: "Dee Miller" <deektnge@bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:31:21 -0500 > >Connie, which Jesse are you looking for? The Jane, is she the one who >married Abslom Sr., ot Jr? Dee > >----- Original Message ----- >From: carolyn beard <carolynsbeard@hotmail.com> >To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:36 PM >Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please > > > > Connie, Hi They weren't listed in the index of the census service that >I > > have. There were other Jesse Crabtrees in Wayne, Whitley and McCreary > > County in other Census years but none could have been this one. > > Carolyn > > > > > > >From: "Connie Quigley" <iceman058@msn.com> > > >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please > > >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:09:49 -0700 > > > > > >Could someone please see if they can find a Jesse and Jane Crabtree in >the > > >1850 McCreary Co KY census? Thank you. > > >Connie Q. > > > > > > > > >==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > > >If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only >the > > >word > > >UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are > > >on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > Carolyn S. Beard > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > > letters, political announcements, current events, items for > > sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) > > is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration > > for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== >If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the >word >UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are >on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Connie, which Jesse are you looking for? The Jane, is she the one who married Abslom Sr., ot Jr? Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: carolyn beard <carolynsbeard@hotmail.com> To: <KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please > Connie, Hi They weren't listed in the index of the census service that I > have. There were other Jesse Crabtrees in Wayne, Whitley and McCreary > County in other Census years but none could have been this one. > Carolyn > > > >From: "Connie Quigley" <iceman058@msn.com> > >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com > >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please > >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:09:49 -0700 > > > >Could someone please see if they can find a Jesse and Jane Crabtree in the > >1850 McCreary Co KY census? Thank you. > >Connie Q. > > > > > >==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > >If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the > >word > >UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are > >on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > Carolyn S. Beard > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political announcements, current events, items for > sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) > is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration > for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Connie, Hi They weren't listed in the index of the census service that I have. There were other Jesse Crabtrees in Wayne, Whitley and McCreary County in other Census years but none could have been this one. Carolyn >From: "Connie Quigley" <iceman058@msn.com> >Reply-To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please >Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:09:49 -0700 > >Could someone please see if they can find a Jesse and Jane Crabtree in the >1850 McCreary Co KY census? Thank you. >Connie Q. > > >==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== >If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the >word >UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are >on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > Carolyn S. Beard _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

May I ask a favor of someone with access to old obituary files? I would expect to pay in advance before the material is sent. I am looking for obituaries for my great-great-aunt Charlotte J. McClancy born March 8, 1860, died March 1, 1928 buried in Pleasant Run Cemetery next to her husband William G. McClancy, and her daughter Julie (Julia) Emma McClancy born Jan. 15, 1892, died Sept. 21, 1969 buried in Methodist Cemetery. Thank you in advance for the help. Fran Work

thank you Della. Connie Q. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bridget42653@yahoo.com To: KYMCCREA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [KYMCCREA] 1850 Census lookup please I'll be on the lookout for you too. Della Perez http://www.geocities.com/megansperky/index.html?1051947117110 GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ==== KYMCCREA Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the KYMCCREA Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to KYMCCREA-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM or if you are on the Digest List to KYMCCREA-D-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The McCreary County KyGenWeb has been updated again. We are still looking for contributions. Have any bibles entries, old pictures, or just plain documents you would like to contribute? Check out the link below! Della Perez http://www.geocities.com/megansperky/index.html?1051947117110 GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

I'll be on the lookout for you too. Della Perez http://www.geocities.com/megansperky/index.html?1051947117110 GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Jesse, there is no 1850 McCreary Co. census. The county didn't exist before 1912. You might try checking the Pulaski, Wayne, and Whitley Co. census. Della GOD BLESS YOU --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Could someone please see if they can find a Jesse and Jane Crabtree in the 1850 McCreary Co KY census? Thank you. Connie Q.

King Family Reunion Saturday July 26, 2003 The descendants of Francis and Anna (Alcorn) King. Families and friends are invited. The reunion will be in Winfield, TN on South U.S. 27 about 2 ½ miles after you cross the KY/TN state line at the municipal building also called the town hall on the right. The gathering will start at 12 noon and potluck dinner at 1 p.m. Please bring a covered dish and soft drinks. Remember to please contact and bring your family members. For more information, please call: Reba at 376-8667, Freida at 376-8074, email: hfstaley@yahoo.com Amy at www.clarkcombsclan.com, email: genealogy@clarkcombsclan.angelcities.com