Thanks--I am trying to verify the if these are siblings. Hopefully, on my next research trip I will be able to find out more. I do appreciate you input. Beverly ----- Original Message ----- From: Jennie & Bob Cox<mailto:robert21003@cox.net> To: kymason@rootsweb.com<mailto:kymason@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [KYMASON] Clark/Pierce In my experience, when the race is not listed it does usually mean "white." Another caveat: just because they are living in the same household does not mean they are children of the head of the household -- they could be younger siblings of the head of the household or they could be nephews or other relatives who happen to live there because they are related and work there. So, I'd try to verify the relationship from other sources. But, your assumption is equally likely to be correct: I have seen adult sons living with their parents and listed as farmhands (when I KNOW that they are the sons). Good luck! Virginia Perry Cox ----- Original Message ----- From: "ben hawkins" <captnemo1958@yahoo.com<mailto:captnemo1958@yahoo.com>> To: <kymason@rootsweb.com<mailto:kymason@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [KYMASON] Clark/Pierce >I really don't know. Every antebellum Ky census > taker's report I've seen always listed each > individual's race, since it was absolutely necessary > to determine Congressional representation, a slave > counting as only 2/3 (or was it 3/4) of a white person > for representation purposes. Of course slaves (and > women) were not allowed to vote, but they were used in > determining population for representational purposes. > --- beverly graver <beverlygr@msn.com<mailto:beverlygr@msn.com>> wrote: > >> The ages of John and Charles are 20 and 24, >> respectively and no race is listed, which usually >> means they are white, doesn't it? >> The ages fit in that the could well be siblings of >> Rodney's. He is 29. >> >> Thank you for opening that possibility. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: ben hawkins<mailto:captnemo1958@yahoo.com<mailto:captnemo1958@yahoo.com>> >> To: >> kymason@rootsweb.com<mailto:kymason@rootsweb.com<mailto:kymason@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kymason@rootsweb.com>> >> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [KYMASON] Clark/Pierce >> >> >> If the 1850 census shows John and Charles Clark, >> farmhands, living in Rodney & Susan Clark's >> household, >> check the census for their ages and race... they >> may >> have been the Clarks' slaves. >> --- beverly graver >> <beverlygr@msn.com<mailto:beverlygr@msn.com<mailto:beverlygr@msn.com%3Cmailto:beverlygr@msn.com>>> wrote: >> >> > Lynn, >> > >> > I'm descended from their youngest child, Taylor >> > Clark. I have as Rodney's and Susan's children: >> > Mary Lydia, Caroline Matilda, John J (Jack)--is >> this >> > your John Joseph?--Frank M, Sarah Elizabeth >> (Betsy), >> > William Andrew (Buddy), Burk Pierce (Diner), Ida >> R >> > (who married George Weaver), Louis P, and then >> my >> > Taylor, who married Angie Bertha Cherry. >> > >> > Taylor and Bertha had 4 children: Clyde, >> Bertha, >> > Amy, & Anna (my grandmother.) >> > >> > The 1850 census for Mason Co., shows a John >> Clark >> > and a Charles Clark--both as farm hands and >> living >> > with Rodney and Susan--I think they must be more >> > brothers-- >> > >> > Another thing that makes think that Joseph and >> Polly >> > are indeed the parents of Rodney, is that their >> > first daughter was named Mary (& Polly is the >> > nickname of the time for Mary) and now that >> you've >> > told me that their 1st son was named John >> Joseph. >> > Of course, that's not proof, but it sure seems >> we >> > must be on the right track. >> > >> > I don't really have anything on the other >> children >> > other than the dates of the births & nicknames >> for >> > some of them >> > >> > I'd certainly appreciate any information that >> you'd >> > be willing to share. And I will certainly tell >> you >> > anything that I know. I have a picture of >> Susan-a >> > snapshot that I took at a cousin's house--she >> has >> > the original--if you don't have that, I can >> email it >> > to you. I'm sure you'd like to see her. There >> is >> > no picture of Rodney that I'm aware of--we >> haven't >> > even been able to find his burial site. >> > >> > I'm from Pendleton Co., KY and now live in >> > Florida--where are you from? >> > >> > Please email me at >> > >> > beverlygr@msn.com<mailto:beverlygr@msn.com<mailto:beverlygr@msn.com%3Cmailto:beverlygr@msn.com<mailto:beverlygr@msn.com%3Cmailto:beverlygr@msn.com%3Cmailto:beverlygr@msn.com%3Cmailto:beverlygr@msn.com>>> >> > >> > Beverly Graver >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Lynn >> > Koehler<mailto:lkoehler@sc.rr.com<mailto:lkoehler@sc.rr.com<mailto:lkoehler@sc.rr.com%3Cmailto:lkoehler@sc.rr.com>>> >> >> > To: >> > >> >> > gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>>> >> > ; >> > kymason@rootsweb.com<mailto:kymason@rootsweb.com<mailto:kymason@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kymason@rootsweb.com<mailto:kymason@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kymason@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kymason@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kymason@rootsweb.com>>> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:52 PM >> > Subject: Re: [KYMASON] Clark/Pierce >> > >> > >> > I am also descended from Rodney and Susan >> (Pierce) >> > Clark. They were my >> > 3-greats grandparents. Their son John Joseph >> was >> > my gg-grandfather. I too >> > have tried to find if Joseph was Rodney's >> father. >> > I have nothing on Susan's >> > parents. >> > I do have a lot on the family of Rodney and >> Susan. >> > If you need any >> > information, let me know and maybe I can help. >> > Which child of Rodney's are you descended >> from? >> > Lynn Koehler >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: >> > >> >> > <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootswebcom%3Cmailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>>>> >> > To: >> > >> >> > <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com>>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:05 PM >> > Subject: [KYMASON] Clark/Pierce >> > >> > >> > > This is a Message Board Post that is >> gatewayed >> > to this mailing list. >> > > >> > > Surnames: Clark Pierce/Pearce Moyer >> > > Classification: queries >> > > >> > > Message Board URL: >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.mason/4435/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.mason/4435/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.mason/4435/mb.ashx%3Chttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.mason/4435/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.mason/4435/mb.ashx%3Chttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localitiesnortham.usa.states.kentucky.counties.mason/4435/mb.ashx%3Chttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.mason/4435/mb.ashx%3Chttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.mason/4435/mb.ashx>>> >> > > >> > > Message Board Post: >> > > >> > > My g-g grandparents were Rodney Clark & >> Susan >> > Pierce Clark who lived in >> > > Mason Co. and married in Aberdeen, Brown >> Co., OH >> > on 26 Sep 1844. Rodney >> > > was born 20 Sep 1820 and died after 1900. >> Susan >> > was born 24 Dec 1825 and >> > > died 5 June 1893. They died in Campbell >> Co., >> > KY. >> > > I'm trying to find out if Joseph Clark & >> Polly >> > (maiden name unknown) were >> > > Rodney's parents. Also trying to find >> parents >> > of Susan. 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