Dear Les : For over 100 years, Mason County's leading florist was "C. P. Dieterich & Bro." The business began in 1965, and closed in the early 1970s, after C(arl) Perry Dieterich passed away. I believe that he was the third generation to operate the business. "Dieterich's" was not only a florist, but operated their own greenhouses and nurseries. His widow and children moved to Lexington following his death, and I think several of them worked for Hillenmeyer Nurseries, there, for a while. The eldest son, Carl Perry Dieterich Jr., was a career Army Reservist, I believe, but I don't know what he's doing, now. I'm not sure what happened to son, Charles Philip Dieterich, but I think son, William Dieterich II may still be involved in some kind of floral or nursery-related career in the Lexington/Nicholasville area. He and I went to school together as children. There were two or more daughters as well, but the only one whose name I remember is Johanna, who is a year younger than ! I. As far as I know, the reason for the business name of "C. P. Dieterich & Bro." was a family tradition of each generation giving 2 sons names with the initials, "C. P." (see above). I think the elder Mr. Dieterich belonged to Maysville's First Christian Church, while Mrs. Dieterich, an O'Neill, was a parishioner at Maysville 's St. Patrick's Church. I seem to remember Mr. Dieterich being active in the Ringgold Lodge I.O.O.F. (OddFellows), which owned the building where the florist shoppe was located. The greenhouses and nursery were located in the East End of Maysville, abutting the Cemetery and the railroad. Please note the family's spelling of their name, with the second "e", "Dieterich", as opposed to the much more prevalent "Dietrich". Not sure, but the Dieterichs, like the Hillenmeyers, may have been of Alsatian-French origin rather than German, hence the unusual spelling. Hope this is helpful, but, if not, I enjoyed the opportunity to reminisce. Sincerely, Ben Hawkins, captnemo1958@yahoo.com lescarp@aol.com wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carpenter Dietrich Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2941 Message Board Post: Hi folks, I'm trying to locate information on my Great Grandfather's 2 brothers who ended up in the Bracken/Mason County area of KY. There names were John and James Carpenter. John had at least 2 daughters. Their names were Ann(a) and Nan(nie) Carpenter. Ann married a Dietrich and had a son named Leroy and also a daughter. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Les ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== The Simon Kenton Festival and Kenton Kin Reunion is an annual event that is held in Old Washington, Mason County, KY, during the 3rd week-end in Sept. The Festival features Pioneer encampments and craft demonstrations, historical buildings and genealogy research. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carpenter Dietrich Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2941 Message Board Post: Hi folks, I'm trying to locate information on my Great Grandfather's 2 brothers who ended up in the Bracken/Mason County area of KY. There names were John and James Carpenter. John had at least 2 daughters. Their names were Ann(a) and Nan(nie) Carpenter. Ann married a Dietrich and had a son named Leroy and also a daughter. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Les

Amy, Do you happen to know John Cahill's wife's parents' surname? My gut feeling is that you are correct, John Cahill's parents may have been born in Ireland; and if he was, he probably emigrated from Ireland to Virginia with them when he was a small child. My early Virginia Irish ancestors included Butlers and Nickells(Nicholl, Nichol, Nickle, MacNiochaill, etc.) The Nickells, from Lower Bedoney, County Tyrone, settled in Augusta County, VA, which had a predominently Irish community . Also, Simon Kenton, the locally famous pioneer generally credited with founding the Mason County, Ky settlement was the son of Irish immigrants. Mary Ingles, also well-known in eastern Ky history, was Irish, too, her maiden name being Draper. Also, Fleming County, which was formed from part of Mason county, was founded by the half-brothers, George Stockton and John Fleming, whose parents were from Ireland. Anyway, the whole point of this is that a large number of the early Mason County (and ! its offspring) settlers were first and second generation Irish-Americans, and this is sometimes reflected in local geographical names. Good hunting, Ben "Amy\\John" <arnola@fidnet.com> wrote: Thank you Ben. I did know of the Irish heritage. I have not connected anyone with Ireland....yet. This John Cahill could well have been born in Ireland, I don't know. However, my gut tells me that it was his parents that were from Ireland (if anyone in my family was).. His wife, Eleanor, I think I read somewhere (and then lost it) had parents that were from Ireland. Her father was William and her mother was Eleanor. And...I forgot to mention, John CAhill was listed as John COhill on the marriage register in Culpepper, VA Thanks, AMY ben hawkins wrote: > > There is a road in Mason County, KY named Cahill Pike. Perhaps this may have been named for John Cahill. Hopefully, someone with more information can verify this one way or another. Although I do not know anything about John Cahill's parentage, I can tell you that the surname, Cahill, is of Irish origin. This isn't much to go on, but I hope this may be of some little help to you. > >Sincerely, > >Ben Hawkins, captnemo1958@yahoo.com >Search this list's archived messages! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

Clermont County is NOT right across the river from Mason County. Mason County KY borders only Brown and Adams Counties in Ohio. Clermont County is across the Ohio River from Bracken, Pendleton, and Campbell Counties in KY. Carolyn Kuczmarski <carolyn@nnex.net> wrote:Hello, I am searching for the parents of Lydia Smith, that m. in 1827 to Zedekiah Wood in Clermont Co. Ohio. Clermont is right across the Ohio River from Mason County. Thanks, Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian M." To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: [KYMASON-L] Hezekiah Smith My DAR ancestor, Hezekiah Smith, was born in Delaware 18 April 1763 and died 26 August 1824 and is buried in Crown Hill Cemetery, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana. At the age of 16 he enlisted in the Continental army at Granby MA in Col. Marshall's Regiment--4th Hampshire, and, as a private, was in nine battles. His eldest brother, Daniel, was killed in the Revolutionary War. His brother Simeon was also in the Revolutionary War and also served in the War of 1812. My Hezekiah Smith (there were several who fought in the Revolutionary War) married Mary Ann Rector, who was "raised by her uncle, Presley Neville" near Pittsburgh, after the death of her mother. This fact is, however, in dispute since her Rector family also has ties in Kentucky--which I will pursue later. Following the war, Hezekiah Smith did surveying along the Ohio River. After Hezekiah Smith and Mary Ann Rector married, they moved "to Mason County, Kentucky, near May's Lick, Bluelicks, Nicholas County, Kentucky, on a farm on Indian Creek." (This combination of counties is confusing to me.) In 1820, they sold the farm in Kentucky and moved to Marion County, Indiana and settled in the woods on 27 October 1820 where they became one of the earliest pioneers to settle in Marion County, Indiana. (As a result, I am a member of the Society of Indiana Pioneers.) Nowhere have I been able to discover information about Hezekiah Smith's family. (The National Archives has no record; New England Genealogical & Historical Society could find no record; Massachusetts and Delaware forums could find no information.) In the Latah County, Idaho, in a bio of his grandson, Marques L. Smith, "His grandfather, Hezekiah Smith, fought under George Washington, for six years in the Revolutionary War. The great-grandfather," (also named) "Hezekiah Smith, was murdered by Tories and Indiana while his son, Hezekiah, was fighting for the independence of the colonies." Several Hezekiah and Mary Ann's children were born in Mason County, Kentucky, including my great-great grandfather, Daniel Rector Smith. Can anyone assist me in finding what information might be gleaned from Kentucky records about my ancestor? Otherwise, he remains my family's brick wall in tracing our Smith ancestry. Marian P.S. Sorry about the length of this inquiry but I am trying to get all of my information into one request... ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Marian, At 18-07-05 21:15, you wrote: >My DAR ancestor, Hezekiah Smith, was born in Delaware 18 April 1763 and >died 26 August 1824 and is buried in Crown Hill Cemetery, Indianapolis, >Marion County, Indiana. At the age of 16 he enlisted in the Continental >army at Granby MA in Col. Marshall's Regiment--4th Hampshire, and, as a >private, was in nine battles. His eldest brother, Daniel, was killed in >the Revolutionary War. His brother Simeon was also in the Revolutionary >War and also served in the War of 1812. >My Hezekiah Smith (there were several who fought in the Revolutionary War) >married Mary Ann Rector, who was "raised by her uncle, Presley Neville" >near Pittsburgh, after the death of her mother. This fact is, however, in >dispute since her Rector family also has ties in Kentucky--which I will >pursue later. >Following the war, Hezekiah Smith did surveying along the Ohio River. >After Hezekiah Smith and Mary Ann Rector married, they moved "to Mason >County, Kentucky, near May's Lick, Bluelicks, Nicholas County, Kentucky, >on a farm on Indian Creek." (This combination of counties is confusing to me.) >In 1820, they sold the farm in Kentucky and moved to Marion County, >Indiana and settled in the woods on 27 October 1820 where they became one >of the earliest pioneers to settle in Marion County, Indiana. (As a >result, I am a member of the Society of Indiana Pioneers.) >Nowhere have I been able to discover information about Hezekiah Smith's >family. (The National Archives has no record; New England Genealogical & >Historical Society could find no record; Massachusetts and Delaware forums >could find no information.) >In the Latah County, Idaho, in a bio of his grandson, Marques L. Smith, >"His grandfather, Hezekiah Smith, fought under George Washington, for six >years in the Revolutionary War. The great-grandfather," (also named) >"Hezekiah Smith, was murdered by Tories and Indiana while his son, >Hezekiah, was fighting for the independence of the colonies." >Several Hezekiah and Mary Ann's children were born in Mason County, >Kentucky, including my great-great grandfather, Daniel Rector Smith. >Can anyone assist me in finding what information might be gleaned from >Kentucky records about my ancestor? Otherwise, he remains my family's >brick wall in tracing our Smith ancestry. I am also attempting to get past a very HUGE brick wall. As you pointed out, there were more than one Hezekiah Smith. I do see some parallels between your Hezekiah and one I found in a will for Champaign County, OH. There is a will for a Peter Smith who died in Champaign County, OH in 1817. Some one in this will may have been the benefactor for my ancestor Reuben Corder who m. Matilda Shockey in ChampCo in 1839. Peter S's wife was Catherine, son - Ira.. His other heirs were Samuel, Sarah, Hezekiah Smith, heirs of Elizabeth Faris, heirs of Nancy Johns, Abraham, Polly and Rhoda Smith. Another researcher just pointed out that Indian Creek runs just north of Cynthiana, KY. A John Corder was living nearby as early as 1820. His dau Cathrine m. a Mahoney (probably related to his wife Elizabeth Mahoney). An Austin Mahoney lived near them in Shenandoah County, VA. He m. a Smith. John and Elizabeth's son Thomas m. Sarah Lemon, dau of John Lemmon in Cynthiana. A John Lemon worked at Isabella Furnace in ShenCo, VA. A Peter Smith was living in Harrison and Henry Cos. in 1810. The Maho(r)neys moved to Henry Co. A James Criswell was in Harrison and a Robert Criswell was in Henry Co., VA. James Corder m. Rhoda Criswell in Shenandoah County, VA in 1801. Criswells have been in Washington Co., PA since 1790. 1850 Census for Amwell Twp. Washington Co., PA page 383 hh 229 James Reese 50 PA Rachel do 48 PA Robert Wilson 26 PA Lucinda do 23 PA Hh 230 James Corder 25 OH Phoebe Smith 52 PA Elizabeth do 16 Wm do 18 Sarah Reese 16 Many people migrated from Mason Co., KY to Champaign County, OH. There was also a migration from ChampCo OH to Grant and Marion Cos., IN. My gr-gr grandmother's parents were Abraham and Nancy (Rector) Shockey. They m. in Maysville, Mason Co. KY in 1801. Nancy's father Chas Rector migrated to Miami Co. IN. If you are interested, I'll send more. Smith is so hard to follow, I usually leave this surname alone. Nancy Halvorson

I descend from George Morford and Margaret Elizabeth Cahall. She was born 12 June 1814 in Pendleton County, KY. Her parents were Solomon Cahall and Elizabeth Parker. Any connection there???----- George Edmondson

Hello, I am searching for the parents of Lydia Smith, that m. in 1827 to Zedekiah Wood in Clermont Co. Ohio. Clermont is right across the Ohio River from Mason County. Thanks, Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian M." <MarianMM@cfl.rr.com> To: <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: [KYMASON-L] Hezekiah Smith My DAR ancestor, Hezekiah Smith, was born in Delaware 18 April 1763 and died 26 August 1824 and is buried in Crown Hill Cemetery, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana. At the age of 16 he enlisted in the Continental army at Granby MA in Col. Marshall's Regiment--4th Hampshire, and, as a private, was in nine battles. His eldest brother, Daniel, was killed in the Revolutionary War. His brother Simeon was also in the Revolutionary War and also served in the War of 1812. My Hezekiah Smith (there were several who fought in the Revolutionary War) married Mary Ann Rector, who was "raised by her uncle, Presley Neville" near Pittsburgh, after the death of her mother. This fact is, however, in dispute since her Rector family also has ties in Kentucky--which I will pursue later. Following the war, Hezekiah Smith did surveying along the Ohio River. After Hezekiah Smith and Mary Ann Rector married, they moved "to Mason County, Kentucky, near May's Lick, Bluelicks, Nicholas County, Kentucky, on a farm on Indian Creek." (This combination of counties is confusing to me.) In 1820, they sold the farm in Kentucky and moved to Marion County, Indiana and settled in the woods on 27 October 1820 where they became one of the earliest pioneers to settle in Marion County, Indiana. (As a result, I am a member of the Society of Indiana Pioneers.) Nowhere have I been able to discover information about Hezekiah Smith's family. (The National Archives has no record; New England Genealogical & Historical Society could find no record; Massachusetts and Delaware forums could find no information.) In the Latah County, Idaho, in a bio of his grandson, Marques L. Smith, "His grandfather, Hezekiah Smith, fought under George Washington, for six years in the Revolutionary War. The great-grandfather," (also named) "Hezekiah Smith, was murdered by Tories and Indiana while his son, Hezekiah, was fighting for the independence of the colonies." Several Hezekiah and Mary Ann's children were born in Mason County, Kentucky, including my great-great grandfather, Daniel Rector Smith. Can anyone assist me in finding what information might be gleaned from Kentucky records about my ancestor? Otherwise, he remains my family's brick wall in tracing our Smith ancestry. Marian P.S. Sorry about the length of this inquiry but I am trying to get all of my information into one request...

Thank you Ben. I did know of the Irish heritage. I have not connected anyone with Ireland....yet. This John Cahill could well have been born in Ireland, I don't know. However, my gut tells me that it was his parents that were from Ireland (if anyone in my family was).. His wife, Eleanor, I think I read somewhere (and then lost it) had parents that were from Ireland. Her father was William and her mother was Eleanor. And...I forgot to mention, John CAhill was listed as John COhill on the marriage register in Culpepper, VA Thanks, AMY ben hawkins wrote: > > There is a road in Mason County, KY named Cahill Pike. Perhaps this may have been named for John Cahill. Hopefully, someone with more information can verify this one way or another. Although I do not know anything about John Cahill's parentage, I can tell you that the surname, Cahill, is of Irish origin. This isn't much to go on, but I hope this may be of some little help to you. > >Sincerely, > >Ben Hawkins, captnemo1958@yahoo.com >Search this list's archived messages! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > >

Amy\\John : There is a road in Mason County, KY named Cahill Pike. Perhaps this may have been named for John Cahill. Hopefully, someone with more information can verify this one way or another. Although I do not know anything about John Cahill's parentage, I can tell you that the surname, Cahill, is of Irish origin. This isn't much to go on, but I hope this may be of some little help to you. Sincerely, Ben Hawkins, captnemo1958@yahoo.com "Amy\\John" <arnola@fidnet.com> wrote: Looking for information on John Cahill. Married Eleanor Butts in Cuplpepper, VA in 1795 and died 10-31-1812 in Mason, Co, KY in 1812. He was a mounted volunteer for KY in 1812 and mustered out of St. Marys (OH I presume). All I can find is that he served about a month with the Volunteers commanded by Capt. Charles Ward in the regiment commanded by Col. Richard M. Johnson. He enlisted in August for only a 1 month term. He died in October of the same year, 1812. This info I found in a copy of an application for bounty land in Franklin, Co. MO in 1851 signed by Eleanor. In this application, she had to state when her husband served and his death year. What I would really like to find is: John's cause of death, burial place and his parentage. I am most willing to pay someone for time and postage. Please constact me directly at arnola@fidnet.com ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== The Simon Kenton Festival and Kenton Kin Reunion is an annual event that is held in Old Washington, Mason County, KY, during the 3rd week-end in Sept. The Festival features Pioneer encampments and craft demonstrations, historical buildings and genealogy research. --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

That is a super bargain.

Actually, a very useful thing to do would be to link a master Mason County map off of a commonly-available page, such as maybe on the county USGenWeb site, with markers showing the locations of all known cemeteries, the historical museum, and maybe even local hotels for planning visits. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: <SusiCP@aol.com> To: <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [KYMASON-L] Google maps on genealogy site > What a great thing to do for everyone.. Thanks so very much. SusiCP >

That would be very helpful Doug. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Gordon" <doug@wdgordon.com> To: <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [KYMASON-L] Google maps on genealogy site > Actually, a very useful thing to do would be to link a master Mason County > map off of a commonly-available page, such as maybe on the county USGenWeb > site, with markers showing the locations of all known cemeteries, the > historical museum, and maybe even local hotels for planning visits. > > Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SusiCP@aol.com> > To: <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:04 PM > Subject: Re: [KYMASON-L] Google maps on genealogy site > > >> What a great thing to do for everyone.. Thanks so very much. SusiCP >> > > > > ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

I found it!!!! "That Dark and Bloody River" by Allan W. Eckert is available at alibris.com @ $7.95. I bought one of two copies--so there is one left to the first person who gets it. Marian

Looking for information on John Cahill. Married Eleanor Butts in Cuplpepper, VA in 1795 and died 10-31-1812 in Mason, Co, KY in 1812. He was a mounted volunteer for KY in 1812 and mustered out of St. Marys (OH I presume). All I can find is that he served about a month with the Volunteers commanded by Capt. Charles Ward in the regiment commanded by Col. Richard M. Johnson. He enlisted in August for only a 1 month term. He died in October of the same year, 1812. This info I found in a copy of an application for bounty land in Franklin, Co. MO in 1851 signed by Eleanor. In this application, she had to state when her husband served and his death year. What I would really like to find is: John's cause of death, burial place and his parentage. I am most willing to pay someone for time and postage. Please constact me directly at arnola@fidnet.com

When was that book written? I have The Frontiersman byAllen Eckert and the only Smith in it is Ebenezer Smith. It is an account of him being an Indian captive. Do any of these Smiths have a son Allen who went to Jackson Co., IN? Pat Morano ----- Original Message ----- From: <SusiCP@aol.com> To: <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [KYMASON-L] Hezekiah Smith > READ THAT DARK AND BLOODY RIVER by ALLEN ECKERT .. I BELEIVE > YOUR > MAN in in this book. Also a great map on inside of cover showing > areas. > This is a historical Fiction. He took the data from Lof C etc records > and did > up the book. references in back of book many many pages its a must for > all > early VA KY PA OH people to read .. Susi > > ______________________________

What a great thing to do for everyone.. Thanks so very much. SusiCP

There is now a way to generate your own Google maps from a personal website, so I applied this to some of the important sites in my genealogy and family history work. The link http://history.wdgordon.com/maps/index.htm takes you to the page from which three maps are currently available. On the maps, you can scroll them around by clicking and dragging with your mouse, and you can zoom in and out with the +/- buttons. Clicking on a marker brings up a description of that location, and clicking on a link within a description brings up the genealogy detail page for that person. One of the coolest features is being able to switch from Map to Satellite view. Unfortunately, the two Kentucky counties do not have hi-res pictures available, so the best example is Monmouth County. If you zoom in all the way, the detail is pretty impressive. The markers are also very accurately placed; the one at Old Tennent Church points pretty much right to the indicated gravesite, which is very close to the old church building. By the way, most of these locations were determined by me taking readings with my GPS when I was actually at the locations, but a few were just taken from various mapping programs. Anyway, it's a way to make location information easily available on the web. Doug Gordon

Susi, Would you happen to recall if William Dixson/Dixon, his wife Grizzy Ann Bell, and his brother John were mentioned in this book, would you? thanks. George C. Dixon SusiCP@aol.com wrote: >READ THAT DARK AND BLOODY RIVER by ALLEN ECKERT .. I BELEIVE YOUR >MAN in in this book. Also a great map on inside of cover showing areas. >This is a historical Fiction. He took the data from Lof C etc records and did >up the book. references in back of book many many pages its a must for all >early VA KY PA OH people to read .. Susi > > >==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== >List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received >when you subscribed. E-mail List Mom at mailto:daisysroots@yahoo.com >Visit Daisy's Roots! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/1daisy.htm > > > >

Thanks, Susi... Marian

Thanks, Kathy. I'm on it! Marian