This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2950.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My husband is a descendant of Basil Cooper's son Jesse Hamilton Cooper, and I have also been trying to untangle all of these Cooper and Wallingford connections in Kentucky, and in Dearborn and Ohio County Indiana, trying to find proof of Jesse Cooper's marriage to Mary Applegate, and Basil Cooper's marriage to Mary Wallingford. If Jesse Cooper was married to Mary Applegate, then their son Basil Cooper married his second cousin, since Mary Applegate was a first cousin to Joseph Wallingford, the father of Basil's (probable wife) Mary Wallingford. Another piece of circumstantial evidence that ties these families together come from the records of the Hartford United Methodist Church in the tiny village of Hartford, Ohio County, Indiana. Both Basil Cooper and Robert Cofield are listed as founding members of this church. They are likely brothers-in-law, married to Wallingford sisters Mary and Amanda (daughters of Joseph and Jane Thornton Wallingford). The church is still in operation, and they have a website: http://www.gbgm-umc.org/hartford/about_us.html A few more tangles from my notes: Cooper researchers theorize that Jesse Sr. Cooper (who may have married Mary Applegate), was the brother of Thomas Cooper (born 1793), whose (probable) daughter, Mary Jane Cooper married Samuel Wallingford (son of Joseph and Jane Thornton Wallingford), and whose son Jesse Cooper (born 19 Dec 1827, not to be confused with Basil's son Jesse born 12 Feb 1835) married Margaret Cofield (daughter of Robert and Amanda Wallingford Cofield). In the census records, all these families are neighbors, so it's not hard to figure they are cousins as well, probably a couple times over.... I'm delighted that other people are working on (or at least near) these lines.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/912.1 Message Board Post: note new address jamarcu@tctwest.net

That's correct, Toni. Bracken County was formed in 1796 from portions of Mason County and Campbell County. After the county lines were redrawn, the 'new' Bracken countians still had relatives, got married, and owned property in the parent county (and vice versa). For researchers who may overlook that fact, the links to databases on other county websites can help them find records they would otherwise miss. Thanks for asking! Marla P.S.: Have you posted your query on the Bracken County message board? There may be a subscriber who has the published marriage bonds who will do a lookup for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: tonim89005@yahoo.com<mailto:tonim89005@yahoo.com> To: KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [KYMASON-L] Re: Elizabeth Henry, Marriage bond or? Look Up Please? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954.1.1.1.1<http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954.1.1.1.1> Message Board Post: Once again, Thank You-!!! I've a question, is/was Bracken Mason Co?? When I was in USGenWeb I noticed that records for early Bracken Co were listed in Mason Co. Why is this? I'm going to try to write Bracken Co Historical Soc today to see if they can locate marriage bond for my Elizabeth Henry Applegat. I'm somewhat confused right now as receiving quite a lot of John Todd Henry & fam info in Boone Co Mo 1850's, as Elizabeth was in Bracken Co Ky & living in the household of a Wm Henry, I'm really about to the conclusion the info I have on John Todd & Harriet Coleman Henry as parents to her is incorrect. Sorry, I'm just going insane with the Henry search, once again. Seems I get into this once a year, it makes me crazy then I forget it until the next year again. Anyway, Thank you so much for the info & links as know they will be so helpfull-!!! Toni Maize ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl<http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2204.1 Message Board Post: Mary Ann--hope you are still at this email address! You perhaps have already received an answer way before now--but it would be nice to make contact with you anyway.John Wesley & Mary Ann Brevard Daniel are my maternal gggrandparents. Their son, Issac Daniel was my ggrandfather; his daughter Della was my grandmother. According to their death certificates they are both buried in Dover, KY (Mason County). I believe they are probably buried in the Rosemont Cemetery, although I have walked the cemetery twice & did not find a headstone. Their son, Issac & Daughter-in-law are buried there, as well as other family members--so it would stand to reason this would be true. I have written a letter to the caretaker of Rosement asking if he could check any records he might have and advise a yes/no. I haven't yet heard back from him. Feel free to contact me--I have various items on this family and willing to share what I have. Looks like we are long lost cousins!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Toni, Your guess is correct. Bracken county was formed in 1796 from parts of Campbell & Mason counties.

Mason County was an original Kentucky county, i.e. formed prior to Kentucky statehood in 1792. Yes, Bracken County was formed from part of Mason County, or from a later county formed from part of Mason County. tonim89005@yahoo.com wrote:This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Once again, Thank You-!!! I've a question, is/was Bracken Mason Co?? When I was in USGenWeb I noticed that records for early Bracken Co were listed in Mason Co. Why is this? I'm going to try to write Bracken Co Historical Soc today to see if they can locate marriage bond for my Elizabeth Henry Applegat. I'm somewhat confused right now as receiving quite a lot of John Todd Henry & fam info in Boone Co Mo 1850's, as Elizabeth was in Bracken Co Ky & living in the household of a Wm Henry, I'm really about to the conclusion the info I have on John Todd & Harriet Coleman Henry as parents to her is incorrect. Sorry, I'm just going insane with the Henry search, once again. Seems I get into this once a year, it makes me crazy then I forget it until the next year again. Anyway, Thank you so much for the info & links as know they will be so helpfull-!!! Toni Maize ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Once again, Thank You-!!! I've a question, is/was Bracken Mason Co?? When I was in USGenWeb I noticed that records for early Bracken Co were listed in Mason Co. Why is this? I'm going to try to write Bracken Co Historical Soc today to see if they can locate marriage bond for my Elizabeth Henry Applegat. I'm somewhat confused right now as receiving quite a lot of John Todd Henry & fam info in Boone Co Mo 1850's, as Elizabeth was in Bracken Co Ky & living in the household of a Wm Henry, I'm really about to the conclusion the info I have on John Todd & Harriet Coleman Henry as parents to her is incorrect. Sorry, I'm just going insane with the Henry search, once again. Seems I get into this once a year, it makes me crazy then I forget it until the next year again. Anyway, Thank you so much for the info & links as know they will be so helpfull-!!! Toni Maize

One other important bit of info tonight... The early death records in Mason county, KY are terribly spotty. But sometimes you can get lucky. Mason County, KY Death Records 1852-1859, 1874, 1904 By: Frances T. Ingmire Page: 48 Jacob TROUTS, 56, male, married, laborer, resided Maysville, b. Germany, son of ______ TROUTS, d. Maysville, Dec. 24, 1855, (cause of death is illegible) Kathy sarah wrote: > > Hello. I am researching the following people. > Jacob Trautz (Trouts) b. ~ 1798 Bavaria > Susan Trouts b. ~ 1815 wife > Carl Trouts b. ~ 1837 > Jacobina b. ~ 1843 > William b. ~ 1840 > Michael b. 12 Oct. 1842 > All born in Bavaria. > I found Susan in 1870 census with 2 more sons: > George b. 1853 KY > Lewis b. 1855 Ky > > Is there someone who has access to a 1860 census or knows anything about this family? > > Also I have a decendant of Michael named Frank B. Trouts who married a Gussie Hart. b. ~ 1874 KY. Gussie is the daughter of a John Hart and Lousia_____. John born in 1847 Ireland. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sarah > > ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. E-mail List Mom at mailto:daisysroots@yahoo.com > Visit Daisy's Roots! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/1daisy.htm

Sorry. I should have added a little more to that URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymason/mason.htm Kathy Kathy Hines wrote: > > I'd suggest searching the data on http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymason > > I notice that there's a marriage for George Trouts in 1875, but I didn't > dig any further than that. > > Marriage Book 12, Page 46 > 29 March 1875 > George Trouts (22 yrs old) > Martha Ellen McNutt (16 yrs old) > Bondsman: James McNutt > > sarah wrote: > > > > Hello. I am researching the following people. > > Jacob Trautz (Trouts) b. ~ 1798 Bavaria > > Susan Trouts b. ~ 1815 wife > > Carl Trouts b. ~ 1837 > > Jacobina b. ~ 1843 > > William b. ~ 1840 > > Michael b. 12 Oct. 1842 > > All born in Bavaria. > > I found Susan in 1870 census with 2 more sons: > > George b. 1853 KY > > Lewis b. 1855 Ky > > > > Is there someone who has access to a 1860 census or knows anything about this family? > > > > Also I have a decendant of Michael named Frank B. Trouts who married a Gussie Hart. b. ~ 1874 KY. Gussie is the daughter of a John Hart and Lousia_____. John born in 1847 Ireland. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sarah > > > > ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > when you subscribed. E-mail List Mom at mailto:daisysroots@yahoo.com > > Visit Daisy's Roots! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/1daisy.htm > > ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== > Visit the Mason County Website! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymason/mason.htm > Be sure to bookmark it!

I'd suggest searching the data on http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymason I notice that there's a marriage for George Trouts in 1875, but I didn't dig any further than that. Marriage Book 12, Page 46 29 March 1875 George Trouts (22 yrs old) Martha Ellen McNutt (16 yrs old) Bondsman: James McNutt sarah wrote: > > Hello. I am researching the following people. > Jacob Trautz (Trouts) b. ~ 1798 Bavaria > Susan Trouts b. ~ 1815 wife > Carl Trouts b. ~ 1837 > Jacobina b. ~ 1843 > William b. ~ 1840 > Michael b. 12 Oct. 1842 > All born in Bavaria. > I found Susan in 1870 census with 2 more sons: > George b. 1853 KY > Lewis b. 1855 Ky > > Is there someone who has access to a 1860 census or knows anything about this family? > > Also I have a decendant of Michael named Frank B. Trouts who married a Gussie Hart. b. ~ 1874 KY. Gussie is the daughter of a John Hart and Lousia_____. John born in 1847 Ireland. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sarah > > ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. E-mail List Mom at mailto:daisysroots@yahoo.com > Visit Daisy's Roots! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~daisy/1daisy.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Toni, Thanks for thinking of me! I really appreciate the kind words. I haven't ever worked with Bracken county personally, but you might want to try them to see if they can help: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kybchs/bracken.html Bracken County Historical Society P.O. Box 307 Brooksville, Kentucky 41004 (606) 735-3337 Office hours are: Friday 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Saturday 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. If that fails for any reason, you could always try to find someone in Salt Lake City to look through the archives they have. Another thought is to check out the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness. People often volunteer to help others with a specific geographic area. http://www.raogk.org/ I think those volunteers deserve lots of kudos from the rest of us. I don't see anyone volunteering for Bracken county, but I do see one person volunteering for: Book: Kentucky Marriages 1797-1865 by G. Glenn Clift - From the Register of the Kentucky Historical Society. These records were originally published in the Lexington newspapers, 7 different papers. Kathy

Dear Listers: I contacted the UK/Young Library Reference Desk to see if they might have a roster of people who do newspaper lookups for a small fee. Their reply is below. For the complimentary lookup, they will need a specific date and the most likely newspaper. A list of the newspapers in their collection is provided at their website: <http://lib.uky.edu/repro/<about:blank>> Marla McCullough Mason County KyGenWeb Coordinator ////////// Dear Marla, Unfortunately, no such roster exists here at the University of Kentucky. However, please inform your researchers that the University of Kentucky will perform one complimentary obituary look-up and we will be happy to send a photocopy of the obituary to them at no charge. And as I'm sure you know, our microfilms are available for interlibrary loan--so researchers that do have access to microfilm readers can conduct their research that way. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance and thank you for your question. Sincerely, Young Library Reference/ss

Sorry I just sent a letter to you meant for someone else. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Corder Halvorson" <nancy@halvorson.us> To: <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [KYMASON-L] Elizabeth Henry, Marriage bond or? Look Up Please? > At 07-08-05 08:27, you wrote: >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Classification: Query >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954 >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>I'm in search of source & verification on info in my files for my 3rd >>GrGrandmother's parents and hope to gain some info from her marriage bond >>or lic info. Only prob is, can't locate anything on this. Elizabeth Henry, >>b. 1831/Mason Co, Ky, married Jacob Applegate (b.1829/Howard Co, Mo) 27 >>Jun 1852/Bracken Co, Ky. Could someone do a look up for me PLEASE???? >>Thanking you, Toni Maize > > Toni, > > I also do much of my research from my home. One way I can get original > documents is to pay a nominal fee to a local genealogical research > library. Many times, the reference librarian at the genealogy libraries > will do a little bit of research for a nomimal fee. I wrote to the Museum > Center is Maysville, KY for my ancestor's marriage record. > Here is the address - > Lynn David > The Museum Center > Mason County Museum > 215 Sutton Street > Maysville, KY 41056 > > They have the original marriage bonds for Mason County on microfilm and > can make you a copy. The cost of this service is $5.00. For more than > one document, the Reference Librarian will charge a research fee of $25 / > hour plus $0.50 / document. > > She does outstanding work. > > Good luck, > > Nancy Corder Halvorson > > > > > ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== > Visit the Mason County Website! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymason/mason.htm > Be sure to bookmark it! > >

The only thing I wish I could find right now, is Jacob and Susan Trouts in the 1850 and 1860 census. I know they were here but I can't find them. Other than that I am doing ok. I am not going to do the pond till friday. That way when I refill it on Saturday, my grand daughter plays in it. It is about 2 and half feet deep and measures about 10 ft. by 15 ft. I love it, but it is horrible to clean! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Corder Halvorson" <nancy@halvorson.us> To: <KYMASON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [KYMASON-L] Elizabeth Henry, Marriage bond or? Look Up Please? > At 07-08-05 08:27, you wrote: >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Classification: Query >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954 >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>I'm in search of source & verification on info in my files for my 3rd >>GrGrandmother's parents and hope to gain some info from her marriage bond >>or lic info. Only prob is, can't locate anything on this. Elizabeth Henry, >>b. 1831/Mason Co, Ky, married Jacob Applegate (b.1829/Howard Co, Mo) 27 >>Jun 1852/Bracken Co, Ky. Could someone do a look up for me PLEASE???? >>Thanking you, Toni Maize > > Toni, > > I also do much of my research from my home. One way I can get original > documents is to pay a nominal fee to a local genealogical research > library. Many times, the reference librarian at the genealogy libraries > will do a little bit of research for a nomimal fee. I wrote to the Museum > Center is Maysville, KY for my ancestor's marriage record. > Here is the address - > Lynn David > The Museum Center > Mason County Museum > 215 Sutton Street > Maysville, KY 41056 > > They have the original marriage bonds for Mason County on microfilm and > can make you a copy. The cost of this service is $5.00. For more than > one document, the Reference Librarian will charge a research fee of $25 / > hour plus $0.50 / document. > > She does outstanding work. > > Good luck, > > Nancy Corder Halvorson > > > > > ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== > Visit the Mason County Website! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymason/mason.htm > Be sure to bookmark it! > >

Hello. I am researching the following people. Jacob Trautz (Trouts) b. ~ 1798 Bavaria Susan Trouts b. ~ 1815 wife Carl Trouts b. ~ 1837 Jacobina b. ~ 1843 William b. ~ 1840 Michael b. 12 Oct. 1842 All born in Bavaria. I found Susan in 1870 census with 2 more sons: George b. 1853 KY Lewis b. 1855 Ky Is there someone who has access to a 1860 census or knows anything about this family? Also I have a decendant of Michael named Frank B. Trouts who married a Gussie Hart. b. ~ 1874 KY. Gussie is the daughter of a John Hart and Lousia_____. John born in 1847 Ireland. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sarah

At 07-08-05 08:27, you wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954 > >Message Board Post: > >I'm in search of source & verification on info in my files for my 3rd >GrGrandmother's parents and hope to gain some info from her marriage bond >or lic info. Only prob is, can't locate anything on this. Elizabeth Henry, >b. 1831/Mason Co, Ky, married Jacob Applegate (b.1829/Howard Co, Mo) 27 >Jun 1852/Bracken Co, Ky. Could someone do a look up for me PLEASE???? >Thanking you, Toni Maize Toni, I also do much of my research from my home. One way I can get original documents is to pay a nominal fee to a local genealogical research library. Many times, the reference librarian at the genealogy libraries will do a little bit of research for a nomimal fee. I wrote to the Museum Center is Maysville, KY for my ancestor's marriage record. Here is the address - Lynn David The Museum Center Mason County Museum 215 Sutton Street Maysville, KY 41056 They have the original marriage bonds for Mason County on microfilm and can make you a copy. The cost of this service is $5.00. For more than one document, the Reference Librarian will charge a research fee of $25 / hour plus $0.50 / document. She does outstanding work. Good luck, Nancy Corder Halvorson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Kathy. Thought about you all day yesterday as I came upon your name & contributions to USGenWeb/Ky and have got to say what a great job you do for them-!!! I was delighted to receive your ans to my posting this morning! Would it be possible to write for this info from Fam History center in Utah? Due to ill health I'm pretty much house bond these days. Most all of my genealogy searches are done on computer or via snail mail. Hope to hear back from you soon. You can email direct tonim89005@yahoo.com Toni Maize

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Applegate Henry Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954.1 Message Board Post: One handy source for finding marriage records is the microfilms that you can get from a Family History Center (FHC). This is the link for the Bracken, KY microfilms: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=195243&subject_disp=Kentucky%2C+Bracken&columns=*,0,0 Click on "Vital Records." Looks like the DAR transcribed the marriage records - Bracken Co., Kentucky, marriages, 1851-1876. And you can get film number 851644 Item 5. Also, film number 344098 has "Loose bonds 1798-1876" for Bracken county.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WBB.2ACI/2954 Message Board Post: I'm in search of source & verification on info in my files for my 3rd GrGrandmother's parents and hope to gain some info from her marriage bond or lic info. Only prob is, can't locate anything on this. Elizabeth Henry, b. 1831/Mason Co, Ky, married Jacob Applegate (b.1829/Howard Co, Mo) 27 Jun 1852/Bracken Co, Ky. Could someone do a look up for me PLEASE???? Thanking you, Toni Maize

Someone from Adams County would probably be a lot more helpful to you. Although there is a hospital in Adams County, at West Union, the two large regional hospitals nearby are Southern Ohio Medical Center in Portsmouth, Ohio, and Meadowview Regional Medical Center in Maysville, Ky. Hamilton County would probably be of no use to you unless Mr. McCarty's death was under unusual circumstances, in which case his body would have been sent to the Hamilton County Medical Examiner's office for an autopsy. By the way, McCarty, is a surname with a long association with Adams County. I have a cousin who married a McCarty from Adams County. Just as a side note, Billy the Kid, aka William H. Bonney, was actually born Henry McCarty in New York City. JCBrooks@aol.com wrote:In a message dated 8/5/2005 8:07:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, JGravdiger@aol.com writes: > Can anyone from Hamilton County, Ohio help me out trying to find out the > date that Harry Thomas McCarty died in 1992 ? There are two Harry McCarty's who died in Ohio in 1992...one must be yours. This is from the Social Security Death Index. Harry MCCARTY Birth Date: 15 Jan 1923 Death Date: 19 Jan 1992 Social Security Number: 294-12-5253 State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Ohio Harry MCCARTY Birth Date: 17 Jun 1911 Death Date: Nov 1992 Social Security Number: 292-32-0721 State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Ohio Death Residence Localities ZIP Code: 45693 Localities: Dunkinsville, Adams, Ohio Liberty, Adams, Ohio Panhandle, Adams, Ohio Unity, Adams, Ohio West Union, Adams, Ohio West Unity, Adams, Ohio Michele Brooks ==== KYMASON Mailing List ==== Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page