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    1. [KYMARION-L] Re: Mary Alice Brady dau of Elizabeth Blair?
    2. Can't help you with Mary Alice Brady specifically, but, can give you the caveat that there was an Elizabeth Blair married to a Dant (James Robert Dant?) in Marion County that would match the same generation you are seeking. James & Eliza had several children and show up often in one of the church marriage/baptismal/death records. Good Luck, DJMurphy Louisville, KY DJMurphy79@aol.com

    03/15/1999 05:13:29
    1. [KYMARION-L] Leaving for a bit..
    2. Gallagher
    3. Hi, just letting yall know that ill be unsubscribing for a few weeks while out of country... hope to be back early april. Need anything, please contact me directly! Also, those in PA who asked for look-ups w/in recently, theyll be top priority when i return! Adrienne Gallagher Narberth, PA

    03/14/1999 02:22:00
  1. 03/14/1999 10:18:57
    1. [KYMARION-L] Brady-Blair
    2. Marie L. Medley
    3. Looking for information on Mary Alice Brady born About 1864 and died 1948 in Marion Co. I beleive her parents were James Brady and Elizabeth Blair. Her sibblings were Charles , Phillip, Ralf and Jefferson Brady. The only thing I'm certain is that she was married to George Valentine Downs. Any help would be appreciated. Marie L. Medley lmedley@ntr.net

    03/13/1999 02:11:00
    1. [KYMARION-L] Vitus Clements Farm
    2. Hello! I am new to this list, and was wondering if anyone could tell me where the VITUS CLEMENTS FARM is located in Marion County. I am told that my ancestor, Fleming Goode, is buried there. Thanks. --Christy

    03/11/1999 05:47:43
    1. [KYMARION-L] lost town
    2. Hello Can anyone help me locate Chicago, Ky.? My ancestor JAMES W. NALLY was born there in 1852. Thankyou Maggie

    03/11/1999 03:08:57
    1. [KYMARION-L] Fw: Medleys
    2. Marie L. Medley
    3. >>Richard Medley married Susannah Rhodes Feb. 6,1600/01 in England >>Their chidren: >>John; born March 25,1615, died 1660, married Elizabeth Thompson 1641, in >St. >>Mary's Co. Maryland. >>Samuel; born March 17, 1602/03 >>William; born Sept. 3,1605 >>Susannah; born May 5,1608 >>Maria; born July 8,1610 >>Michael; born July 23, 1620. >> >> >>John Medley and Elizabeth Thompson's children were: >>John ; born 1642, died Aug. 19,1676 and was married to Anne Warren. >>George; born 1644, died 1676 >>Thomas; born 1647, died 1683 >>William; born 1650, died 1695, married Ann Reynolds 1695. >> >> >>William Medley and Ann Reynolds' children were: >>John; born 1679, died 1748, married Ann Ford 1700. >>William; born 1681, died 1725 >>Barbara, born 1680, married John Hammon. >>Rebecca; born 1682, died 1743, married George Thompson abt. 1710. >> >> >>John Medley and Ann Ford's children were: >>Mary; born 1701, married Thomas Greenwell Abt. 1723 >>John; born 1702, died 1749, married Elizabeth Meaken in 1722 (MD) >>George; born 1704, married Ann Dant >>William; born 1706, died 1753, married Elionor Combs >>Thomas; born 1708, died 1764 >>James; born 1710 >>Ann; born 1712, married John Cole >>Clement; born Abt. 1722 >>Henrietta; born Abt 1737? >> >>John Medley and Elizabeth Meaken's children were: >>John ; born 1725, died 1749, married Frances Bacon 1748 >>Elizabeth; born Sept. 25,1730 >>Phillip; born dec. 19, 1732, died July 2, 1797, married to (1) Eleonor >Taney >>(2) Eleonor Neale >>Joseph; born march 19, 1737/38, married Anastasia Greenwell >>Anastasia; born Feb.2,1741/42, died 1775, married James Bailey Abt. 1760 >>Ignatius; born Oct. 14, 1745, died 1774, married Mary Fenwick. >> >>Hope I could help >>Marie L. Medley >>lmedley@ntr.net >> >> >> >> >

    03/10/1999 10:48:10
    1. [KYMARION-L] HOSKINS/MOLOHON/GREEN/WISE
    2. Hi all: Before I start with my query, I just want to warn you that I am posting this to several lists so please use your delete key if you get more than one <g> For some time I have been trying to untangle several families that seem to have all been part of the Catholic migration from the St. Marys Co MD area and I am still looking for definative answers. I'd be happy for opinions on my conclusions even if you don't relate to the specific families... at this point I am just trying to be sure I am on the right track. Here's what I have: Randle (aka Randolph) HOSKINS (frequently spelled HODSKINS): Conclusion #1 I think his full name was Joseph Randle Hoskins for the following reasons: 1. Tax and census lists - A Randle and a Joseph R. Hoskins show up in Washington Co Tax and census lists in different years, however they appear to be in the same location (1820 shows Randolph Hoskins, 1830 lists Joseph R. Hoskins with same neighbors - including Andrew Mudd and Gabriel Mattingly) 2. Too much coincidence - Joseph R. Hoskins lived next door to Vincent Hoskins in the Washington Co KY 1830 Census. Randle Hoskins provided surety for Vincent Hoskins' marriage. 3. Somewhere (Pioneer History of Washington Co??) I came up with a death date for Randle of June 21, 1834. A cemetary book lists the grave of Joseph Hoskins who died June 21, 1854 in the St Charles Cemetary in Marion Co. I suspect the year 1854 is a misreading of the stone. Does my conclusion that Joseph R. and Randle are the same person make sense?? Conclusion #2 Randle was the husband of Susanna (Lusansia) Mollihorne 1. Susanna's father, James Mollihorne, left one shilling to Susanna (Lusansia) Hoskins in his will 2. Randle served as guardian to Elizabeth Molohon (niece of Susanna Mollihorne) and gave permission for her to marry Michael Spencer in Washington Co KY on Jan 31, 1800. 3. In an affidated on behalf of the pension application of Bennett Dailey, Randolph Hoskins stated he lived 5-6 miles from where Dailey lived in Charles Co MD - making it possible that he met Susanna in MD (ok that's a stretch <G>) Does this marriage seem likely? ---- Vincent HOSKINS (HODSKINS) Conclusion 1: Closely related to Randle Hoskins (son or brother) 1. Randle provided surety for Vincent's marriage to Elizabeth MOLOHON (her second marriage) on June 25, 1812 2. They were next-door-neighbors in 1830 Conclusion 2 (a tough one): There were two men named Vincent Hoskins, both married to women named Elizabeth 1. The primary evidence here has to do with Elizabeth. The Elizabeth Hoskins who is buried with Vincent Hoskins at St. Lawrence Cemetary in Daviess Co was born on May 18, 1790 and died Nov 11, 1875 according to her tombstone. If this is actually Elizabeth MOLOHON then she would have married Michael Spencer at age 10 - pretty unlikely even back then. The Vincent Hoskins buried with her was listed as born June 17, 1787 and died June 6, 1868. An Elizabeth HOSKINS listed as a widow born in MD and age 70 died in July of 1854 in Marion Co KY. This Elizabeth Hoskins appears to be Elizabeth MOLOHON since her death at age 70 in 1854 would make her born about 1784 and around 16 when she married Michael Spencer - a much more likely scenario. Since Elizabeth Molohon Hoskins was still alive in the 1850's, and was listed as a widow at her death in 1854, it seems unlikely that the Vincent Hoskins buried in Daviess Co is the same as the Vincent Hoskins she married. Does this make sense?? Finally - I believe that John Benjamine HOSKINS (in Taylor Co KY by 1850 married to Sarah Margaret WISE) was the son of either Randle or Vincent. This is a combination of family lore, coincidence (John and his first wife Unknown GREEN, d/o Charles Green and Margaret MOLOHON, had a son named Charles Randall who was born in Marion Co.), and just plain gut feeling. I would really appreciate any comments on these conclusions as well as any "hard" info on these families. Thanks in advance!! Ann Hoskins-Brown Philadelphia, PA

    03/09/1999 11:22:43
    1. [KYMARION-L] Hamiltons-Odaniels
    2. Marie L. Medley
    3. DBrickey1@aol Dave, Thank you for the info. All fits. My internet service is on the outs with AOL, and I can"t you a personal message. I can only receive them. Marie L. Medley

    03/08/1999 05:04:40
    1. [KYMARION-L] Re: Convent in Marion Co.
    2. In a message dated 3/6/99 1:16:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, kyfamily@webtv.net writes: << Subj: Re: [KYMARION-L] Re: Sylvester book Date: 3/6/99 1:16:51 PM Eastern Standard Time From: kyfamily@webtv.net (Judith Fisk) To: DJMurphy79@aol.com I couldn't help but notice the word CONVENT.. I have been trying to decipher this word as a name of a town that Mary Jane Morris who mar at (Convent by a Priest...gives name of priest.unreadable) her husband James Tilford Goode in 1846. Marion Co says no record. Is CONVENT the name of a town? If so can you tell me how to get to it?Thanks, Judy >> Actually, from the best of my Catholic upbringing, CONVENT is typically a place for nuns to live together in community. Washington & Marion County (and a third I can't remember, sorry) was one of the meccas of sort (sorry again for the mix of religious metaphors) for early catholic pioneers. I believe there was two or three convents in the area, Sisters of Loretto is one that comes to mind. And there is at least one monastery (for monks) and one seminary (for priests). What happens is relationships are forged between nearby families and convents because of several reasons including family members joining the convents as sisters. This may be the reason the marriage took place at a convent or perhaps the proximity or availability of priests was another factor. I'm posting this query to the list in case anyone else can shed some light. Possibly the convent might have a list of the sacraments administered there and you could contact the convents in the area. Good Luck, DJMurphy Louisville, KY DJMurphy79@aol.com

    03/07/1999 04:20:52
    1. [KYMARION-L] Re: Sylvester book
    2. In a message dated 3/5/99 5:10:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, MBPKelly writes: << Subj: hello from Chicago Date: 3/5/99 5:10:02 PM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:MBPKelly">MBPKelly</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:DJMurphy79">DJMurphy79</A> you've probably heard from others on this Wimsatt information already, but thought I would share it with you.... I put a copy of "The Descendants of Sylvester Wimsatt and Eleanor Spalding, his Wife in the Kentucky Room of the Owensboro Library. This was compiled by Jessie lee Wimsatt and Martha Ellen Mitchell in March of 1972. This book reflects the research of W. Harold Randall, an attorney in Springfield, Missouri. Randall did this research in the 1930s....then went to WWII and resumed the research and then he either died or ?? but the gals mentioned above continued on. It has some interesting stories and so on. ..but of course it is dated back to1972 and your family is mentioned.. One of these descendants married a Schrecker and that's how I came across this information as I'm researching Schreckers..... There is some interest information about Sylvester Wimsatt who is buried at St. Alphonsus cemetery at St. Joseph, Daviess Co., KY...i'm sure you would find this old information interesting.. hope this helps.....and I'm also guessing that if you contact Jerry Long at the library he can give you all the information available on the Wimsatts.... good luck...... Amelia Kelly Chicago >> Thank you so much for your information regarding the book by W. Harold Randall. I am responding to you via the county mailing list so this information can be beneficial to any others that have contacted me and did not know this existed as well. I hadn't realized how close to Mt. St. Joseph Academy & Convent these Wimsatts had lived. Knowing they lived in Curdsville (as James Monroe Wimsatt's parents were) and buried at St. A's like Sylvester Wimsatt helps me see the connection to this boarding school and convent. Thanks so much for the information. I hope to spend some time at the Big O (Owensboro) soon and check out the book and walk the cemetaries. DJMurphy Louisville, KY DJMurphy79@aol.com

    03/06/1999 02:21:08
    1. [KYMARION-L] Hamiltons-O'Daniels
    2. Marie L. Medley
    3. I'm still looking for a connection on George Hamilton from Washington, Nelson or marion County. He was married to Mahala O'Daniel. I have their daughter's death certificate on which their names appear. She was Teresa Jane Hamilton. Born January 18,1853 She died May 24,1925. She was married to Joseph W. Medley.Does any one know who George's father and mother was? And Mahala's parents? Any help will be appreciated. Marie L. Medley lmedley@ntr.net

    03/05/1999 05:44:10
    1. [KYMARION-L] Re: Be Wary of 1850 - 1870 Census Children
    2. In a message dated 3/3/99 3:22:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, KyFoxFamily <rfox@mis.net> writes: << Actually, we need to be careful about making the assumption that children listed with a head of household in the 1870 census are biological children. That census was taken before relationships were given. The child could be a cousin or nephew or whatever. But the 1850-1870 censuses do give us a list of possibilities and some leads on children, for sure. >> A very wise heads-up. Thanks for containing me before I went hog-wild. BTW: I have had the pleasure of several private emails with a supreme amount of research on the BUCKLER, WIMSATTS, DANTS families already done. Luck like this never rained in such abundance on any of the MURPHY lines I'm investigating. Goes to show any throw into the pond is worth it. Thanks to everyone who has replied (and keep those letters coming, cousins!) DJMurphy Louisville, KY DJMurphy79@aol.com

    03/04/1999 10:38:56
    1. Fw: [KYMARION-L] Re: Bingo on Bucklers!
    2. Marie L. Medley
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Marie L. Medley <lmedley@ntr.net> To: DJMurphy79@aol.com <DJMurphy79@aol.com> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [KYMARION-L] Re: Bingo on Bucklers! >Re: George Washington Hayden Buckler >William Goodrum Buckler married to Mary Ann Mills was the daughter of John >Mills and Mary Hayden . Sally Hayden(1794-12/25/1870) was married to >Benedict Downs 4/29/1814(My line) >M.L.Medley >lmedley@ntr.net >-----Original Message----- >From: DJMurphy79@aol.com <DJMurphy79@aol.com> >To: KYMARION-L@rootsweb.com <KYMARION-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 5:13 PM >Subject: [KYMARION-L] Re: Bingo on Bucklers! > > >>In a message dated 2/28/99 8:48:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, BettyY5919 >>writes: >> >><< Subj: Re: [KYMARION-L] Seeking: Bucklers, Dants, Wimsatts >> Date: 2/28/99 8:48:23 PM Eastern Standard Time >> From: <A HREF="mailto:BettyY5919">BettyY5919</A> >> To: <A HREF="mailto:DJMurphy79">DJMurphy79</A> >> >> Hello Donna, my grandmother, Anna Belle Buckler Ryan was Jennie Buckler's >>half sister. >> Here is some of what I have on them: >> >> George Washington Hayden BUCKLER b. 11/2/1840, d. 7/25/1904 >> m/1 Catherine Elizabeth WARREN b. 7/27/1842, d. 12/7/1863 >> >> Children of GWH & Catherine Elizabeth: >> Anna Belle b. 11/1/1862, d. 2/27/1933, m. 1/9/1883 Timothy RYAN >> Mary Elizabeth "Molly" b. 11/30/1863, m 10/11/1881 John A Medley >> >> GWH m/2 1/31/1865, Lucinda "Lucy" CAMBRON b. 5/16/1842, d. 6/30/1898 >> Lucinda d/o Edward Cambron & Harriett Hamilton >> >> Children of GWH & Lucinda >> Genevieve b. 12/4/1865, m 9/23/1884 James M Wimsatt >> William b. 2/24/1867, d. 8/29/1899, m 11/7/1893 Mary Elizabeth Lancaster >> Maria Clara (Sr Mary Emmanuel, SL) b. 8/11/1869, d. 8/10/1941 >> Mariah Prudence, b. 2/13/1871, d. 3/20/1939, m 11/15/1887 Joseph Celestine >>Goodrum >> Mary Adalia b. 4/14/1874, m 4/6/1896 John A Medley (his 2nd wife) >> Harriet Theresa b. 4/17/1877, m 11/19/1902 Francis Lee Osborne >> Edward Fermont b. 9/16/1875, d. 2/20/1931, m Mary Etta Hardesty >> Sarah Victoria b. 2/10/1878, m 2/15/1898 Joseph W Blandford >> Mary Ethel b. 7/30/1880, d. 7/24/1961, m 4/20/1904 Walter Blandford >> Alice b. 2/26/1881, d. 8/16/1955, m 7/20/1904 Edward M Thompson >> Mary Ursula >> Damion Hayden b. 7/26/1887, d. 5/20/1954,m Emma Katherine DANT 11/27/1907 >> >> GWH m/3 10/5/1899 Rose Ann Mattingly Warren b. 1848, d. 4/23/1902 >> Rose Ann d/o Barton Mattingly & Rhoda Ann Jones >> Rose Ann was the widow of George H Warren who I believe was the brother of >>GWH's >> first wife Catherine Elizabeth >> >> GWH s/o William Goodrum Buckler & Mary Ann MILLS d/o John MIlls & Sally >>Hayden >> >> I don't have anything on the Wimsatt's, sorry to say. Hope this helps and >If >>I can be of further help, let me know. >> >> Betty >> >> >> >>Oh, my, oh, my. Thank you so very much! This information is going >straight >>into my Brother's Keeper. This is so incredible to get such a direct hit >with >>a simple query after months of watching the list and hoping to catch a >glimpse >>of one of my family names. >> >>Now I have tons of info. >> >>BTW: what's with this affection for names after long deceased presidents? >>>From two separate surnames I have a James Monroe WIMSATT and now a George >>Washington Hayden BUCKLER in my family tree. >> >>Thanks so much again! >> >>DJMurphy >>Louisville, KY >>DJMurphy79@aol.com >> >

    03/02/1999 06:01:55
    1. [KYMARION-L] Re: Bingo on Bucklers!
    2. In a message dated 2/28/99 8:48:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, BettyY5919 writes: << Subj: Re: [KYMARION-L] Seeking: Bucklers, Dants, Wimsatts Date: 2/28/99 8:48:23 PM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:BettyY5919">BettyY5919</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:DJMurphy79">DJMurphy79</A> Hello Donna, my grandmother, Anna Belle Buckler Ryan was Jennie Buckler's half sister. Here is some of what I have on them: George Washington Hayden BUCKLER b. 11/2/1840, d. 7/25/1904 m/1 Catherine Elizabeth WARREN b. 7/27/1842, d. 12/7/1863 Children of GWH & Catherine Elizabeth: Anna Belle b. 11/1/1862, d. 2/27/1933, m. 1/9/1883 Timothy RYAN Mary Elizabeth "Molly" b. 11/30/1863, m 10/11/1881 John A Medley GWH m/2 1/31/1865, Lucinda "Lucy" CAMBRON b. 5/16/1842, d. 6/30/1898 Lucinda d/o Edward Cambron & Harriett Hamilton Children of GWH & Lucinda Genevieve b. 12/4/1865, m 9/23/1884 James M Wimsatt William b. 2/24/1867, d. 8/29/1899, m 11/7/1893 Mary Elizabeth Lancaster Maria Clara (Sr Mary Emmanuel, SL) b. 8/11/1869, d. 8/10/1941 Mariah Prudence, b. 2/13/1871, d. 3/20/1939, m 11/15/1887 Joseph Celestine Goodrum Mary Adalia b. 4/14/1874, m 4/6/1896 John A Medley (his 2nd wife) Harriet Theresa b. 4/17/1877, m 11/19/1902 Francis Lee Osborne Edward Fermont b. 9/16/1875, d. 2/20/1931, m Mary Etta Hardesty Sarah Victoria b. 2/10/1878, m 2/15/1898 Joseph W Blandford Mary Ethel b. 7/30/1880, d. 7/24/1961, m 4/20/1904 Walter Blandford Alice b. 2/26/1881, d. 8/16/1955, m 7/20/1904 Edward M Thompson Mary Ursula Damion Hayden b. 7/26/1887, d. 5/20/1954,m Emma Katherine DANT 11/27/1907 GWH m/3 10/5/1899 Rose Ann Mattingly Warren b. 1848, d. 4/23/1902 Rose Ann d/o Barton Mattingly & Rhoda Ann Jones Rose Ann was the widow of George H Warren who I believe was the brother of GWH's first wife Catherine Elizabeth GWH s/o William Goodrum Buckler & Mary Ann MILLS d/o John MIlls & Sally Hayden I don't have anything on the Wimsatt's, sorry to say. Hope this helps and If I can be of further help, let me know. Betty >> Oh, my, oh, my. Thank you so very much! This information is going straight into my Brother's Keeper. This is so incredible to get such a direct hit with a simple query after months of watching the list and hoping to catch a glimpse of one of my family names. Now I have tons of info. BTW: what's with this affection for names after long deceased presidents? >From two separate surnames I have a James Monroe WIMSATT and now a George Washington Hayden BUCKLER in my family tree. Thanks so much again! DJMurphy Louisville, KY DJMurphy79@aol.com

    03/01/1999 12:54:49
    1. [KYMARION-L] LaRue County Researchers...
    2. I am working on a Giant File of LaRue County covering 8 census recordings, 1840-1850-1860-1870-1880-1900-1910-1920... The 1900-1910-1920, listings are for the Athertonville district only... My goal is to record any FULL names for these persons, (6,207), that you have in your family tree files....persons shown are "Head of House". Also send any middle initials if you know any. The purpose is to have a correct historical reference for the people listed. Thanks, Charlie Metcalf

    03/01/1999 02:41:51
    1. [KYMARION-L] Seeking: Bucklers, Dants, Wimsatts
    2. Greetings! My grandmother Mary Victoria Dant was born in Marion County in 1913. I have been very successful in tracing her paternal side thru the Dants and Blairs thru published records of Marion County churches at Louisville's Filson Club and finding headstones in the Marion County Catholic Church cemetaries. I haven't had much success with my grandmother's maternal side, though and that is why I am seeking help. Looking for info on James Monroe Wimsatt, b. 1859 d. 1930 in Jefferson Co, buried in Henderson/Daviess Co. and Genevieve "Jennie" Buckler b. 1865, d. 1922, also buried in Henderson/Daviess Co. (actually at Stanley's St. Peter Catholic Church -- not sure which county it is in). My g. grandmother attended Mary Victoria Wimsatt (married James Lancaster Dant) attended Mount St. Joe boarding school in Maple Mount, Daviess Co., KY at the turn of the century and census records showed her family was living in Daviess Co. at the time. Thanks for any help. DJMurphy Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY DJMurphy79@aol.com

    02/28/1999 09:03:51
    1. [KYMARION-L] 1850 census lookup
    2. Don & Melissa Alexander
    3. Can someone who has access to the 1850 Marion Co Web page do a lookup for me on the family of Edward Thompson, wife Mary J (Mattingly), et al. Looking for details on the family. Thanks. Melissa Thompson Alexander www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/ listowner: CECIL-L@rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L@rootsweb.com Edmonds, WA USA

    02/27/1999 01:45:37
    1. [KYMARION-L] Roll Call--MACKIN
    2. KyFoxFamily
    3. I'm seeking MACKINs and allied families (COSTELLO, JOYCE, WOODS, WALSH/WELSH, GANNON, McSHANE, DUNN, ADAMS). Rita Mackin Fox <rfox@mis.net> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4947/mackin.html

    02/26/1999 06:38:41
    1. [KYMARION-L] Marion County Pictorial History
    2. This, from the Marion County Historical Society Spring Newsletter. The Society members present at the January 1999, Marion County Historical Society meeting voted to consider publishing a pictorial history of Marion County. For this project to be successful, the help of every member of the historical society plus support from non-members as well, is needed. If anyone has old pictures pertaining to places and people of Marion County that could be used, please let us hear from you. Lets make this book something to be proud of. The mailing address of the Society is: Marion County Historical Society 201 East Main Street Lebanon Ky 40033

    02/25/1999 05:56:27