I've been looking in Lawrence and Marion Counties in Ohio and just found the same names in Kentucky. I'm trying to locate: Charles Lundus Morris b.April 5,1871 Troy Houston Morris b.March 26,1894 Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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I came across the tombstones of the following Blairs, and wondered if anyone else had any information about them. The stones are located in St. Francis of Assisi cemetery in St. Francis (formerly Chicago), Marion Co., KY: (1) Treacy Blair, b. Maryland 1790, d. 5-3-1884, wife of George Nevitt Also, found the stone of a father and daughter that I cannot place: (2) Wm. R. Blair, b. 7-1825, d. 3-13-1882 (3) Sarah O. Blair, d/o W.R. and M. Blair, d. 6-6--1884, age 6 years Finally: (4) L. Bertrand (I imagine Louis Bertrand) Blair, b. 2-11-1904, d. 1-28-1951, wife Emma Hughes (no info on Emma's side of the stone) Emma Hughes is the d/o Joseph Stanislaus Hughes, Sr., and Margaret Elizabeth Dant. Mary McCauley

I was doing some cemetery research in KY today, and discovered that the large and still very quite readable tombstone of Elias RUSSELL, Sr., had fallen off its base at St. Francis Xavier cemetery in Raywick (Marion Co.), KY. If any of you are descendants of Elias Russell and still living in the area, I thought you might want to know about it so perhaps you can look into having it raised and re-mounted. The mounting base has a cracked corner and may need to be replaced, but the headstone itself is not visibly damaged. Elias Russell, Sr. is the s/o Charles Russell and Jane Mattingly (she d/o Leonard Mattingly, Sr., and Mary (Polly) Hayden). Mary McCauley

My grandfather Francis Marion GRIDER said to have been born in 1857 in Marion Ky. married Katie Odem in Tn. I am hoping that someone can help me prove that he was born in Marion Co. My nephew is the one that has Francis Marion GRIDER born in Ky. and has even submitted it to the LDS that way BUT I find who I think is my Francis Mairon in Blount Co., Tn. The only thing is that this Francis Marion would have been born in 1859 BUT there is another brother in this family that would have a different birth date if we go by the census. Can anyone help? Thanks so very much. Regina GRIDER Pipes vgmx05c@prodigy.com

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Hi All, I thought I would toss my line in here and see what I might catch... Edward A. (Alice??) DOWNS m. Betty ESSEX (??) ca mid to late 1800s. One daughter Mary Martha DOWNS was born 1905, in Marion County. A son Francis (Frank) was born in that decade too. Do these names ring a bell with anyone? Is there anyone who could/would do a lookup for me to see if a marriage record or vital record (any record!! LOL) could be found? I would pay for copies, and gas, and time. Cheers! Lori INGenWeb ASC - Ripley INGenWeb CC genweb.net/~inripley/

We have a John M. Russell family that we have not been able to connect with any of the other Russell's, because we do not know and can not find his parents name. John M. Russell b. 1825 KY d. 1888 St. Mary's, KY. m. Sarah Ann Mattingly b. 1-16-1826 m. 1850 Marion Cty Ky d. 4-17-1859 St Mary's Thomas Wallace" Russell b. about 1851 St. Mary's Ky Susan Ellen Russell b. 6-16-1852 St. Mary's Ky Alice Russell b. 3-07-1854 St. Mary's Ky Eliza Russell b. 4-14-1856 St. Mary's Ky m. Margaret McAtee b. 1835 m. 1860 d. 1892 St. Mary's Ky William "Frank" Francis Russell b. 11-23-1860 St. Mary's Ky Sarah "Mattie" Marshall Russell b. 3-03-1862 St. Mary's Ky John "Dell" D. Russell b. 9-28-1863 St. Mary's Ky James Russell b. 6-13-1865 St. Mary's ky Mary A. Russell b. 5-08-1867 St. Mary's Ky Louis George Russell b. 12-06-1868 St. Mary's Ky d. 3-30-1859 Louisville Ky Charles Russell b. 7-14-1870 St. Mary's Ky Elizabeth Anna Russell b. 8-25-1871 St. Mary's Ky John Edward Russell b. 8-25-1873 St. Mary's Ky Joseph L. Russell b. 9-05-1876 We have a lot of Russell family information, but none connect with this John M. Russell. Does anyone know anything about him?? Dolores & Danny Bohn

Looking for anyone interested and/or related to this BRIGHT & intermarrying families. Francine Conn Halter ===== Descendants of Charles Bright .1 Charles Bright b: May 05, 1809 in Washington Co., KY d: December 27, 1859 in Graves Co., KY .. +Mary Ann Margery Shanks b: September 20, 1813 in Nelson Co., KY m: April 16, 1833 in St. Vincent's, Union Co., KY d: February 10, 1902 in Graves Co., KY Father: Charles Shanks Mother: Lydia Wethington .. 2 Mary Jane Bright b: May 22, 1834 in Union Co., KY d: 1888 in Graves Co., KY ...... +William Proctor Ballard b: 1833 m: December 18, 1856 in Graves Co., KY d: September 09, 1902 in Graves Co., KY Father: Stephen Bland Ballard Mother: Lucinda Roberts .. 2 Scivilla Catherine Elizabeth Bright b: November 29, 1835 in Union Co., KY d: September 13, 1911 in Fancy Farm, Graves Co., KY .. 2 William Joseph Bright b: March 13, 1838 in Union Co., KY d: September 09, 1901 in Fancy Farm, Graves Co., KY ...... +Susan Frances Catherine Hobbs b: May 09, 1837 in Graves Co. or Union Co.,, KY m: March 17, 1859 in Graves Co., KY d: September 27, 1916 in St. Jerome, Fancy Farm, Graves Co., KY Father: Samuel W. Hobbs Mother: Rose Ann Mahala Willett .. 2 Teresa Elizabeth Bright b: February 10, 1840 in Union Co., KY d: September 1899 .. 2 Benjamin Franklin Bright b: December 23, 1841 in Union Co., KY d: July 08, 1903 in Graves Co., KY ...... +Julia Ann Margaret Riley b: 1850 m: August 11, 1873 Father: Martin Gregory Riley Mother: Ida Bridget Ballard .. 2 Susan Margaret Bright b: February 11, 1844 in Graves Co., KY d: September 27, 1917 in Graves Co., KY .. 2 [1] Valentine Elisha Bright b: February 02, 1846 in Graves Co., KY d: October 04, 1917 in Graves Co., KY ...... +Elizabeth Marshall m: February 17, 1871 in unproven marr. .. *2nd Wife of [1] Valentine Elisha Bright: ...... +Appolonia Hayden m: November 18, 1875 in St. Jerome, Fancy Farm, Graves Co., KY .. *3rd Wife of [1] Valentine Elisha Bright: ...... +Catherine (widow) Roberts m: November 18, 1891 in unprove marr. .. 2 Julia Emily Bright b: February 08, 1848 in Graves Co., KY .. 2 Charles Ambrose Bright b: January 11, 1850 in Graves Co., KY d: April 04, 1923 ...... +Elizabeth "Betty" Catherine Hayden m: January 19, 1875 in St. Jerome, Fancy Farm, Graves Co. KY .. 2 [2] Martha Rachel Bright b: July 18, 1852 in Graves Co., Kentucky ...... +John C. Hayden m: May 15, 1870 Father: John Joseph Hayden Mother: Eleanor Hobbs .. *2nd Husband of [2] Martha Rachel Bright: ...... +B. F. Shanks m: April 25, 1892 .. 2 Frances Luellen Bright b: June 24, 1854 in Fancy Farm, Graves Co., Kentucky .. 2 Samuel Bright b: August 10, 1856 in Fancy Farm, Graves Co., Kentucky d: August 10, 1856 in Fancy Farm, Graves Co., Kentucky .. 2 John James Buchanan Bright b: August 01, 1857 in Fancy Farm, Graves Co., Kentucky .. 2 George Thomas Bright b: July 02, 1858

This from Donna Mattingly regarding the Marion County History Publication >>The Marion County Historical Society has decided to move forward with publication of a long-overdue county history book. I'm sure that as families moved away, they took with them photographs and information connected to people and places in Marion County that would be of interest to many, and that might be suitable additions to the book. The book is tentatively scheduled for release sometime during the year 2000. I'm secretary of the local Historical Society, and we just recently made the decision to move forward with the project. We're currently checking on various publishing options. Naturally, we'd like a nice hard bound book (similar to Washington County's, for example), at the best price. There is a tremendous loss of information for certain periods of time in Marion County because of records destroyed by fire. I'm optimistic that with the help of all interested people with ties to Marion County, we can put together a publication that will be of great help to researchers. There is some debate in the Society whether to first produce a pictorial overview (which would be simpler and more quickly done) and then do a separate book containing families/genealogical lines/stories, or do one book combining both. At any rate, we are busy gathering and organizing information, and would certainly welcome any input from you. Please contact me if you have any old pictures, documents or information connected to Marion County that you would be willing to share. Thanks! Donna Mattingly Secretary, Marion County Historical Society Email to: snowbird@kih.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --

Hi Everybody! Some of you on this list may be interested in learning more about a fascinating group of people called Melungeons, especially if your family comes from northeast TN, southeast KY, northwest NC or southwest VA. If you have any questions about the article below, please write to me directly at suni@qni.com. Thanks! -Kay ****** Recent books and documentaries on Appalachia's mysterious Melungeons have led many people to search for their Melungeon roots. A genealogy workshop at Berea College may provide help for those who are seeking information about their families and possible Melungeon connections. "Melungeon Roots: A Family Heritage Workshop" will be held on the Berea College campus on Saturday, June 26. This event will feature sessions on beginning, intermediate, and Internet genealogy, as well as specific sessions to explore Native American and African-American connections. There will also be chat sessions for various family groups, a showing of a documentary film about the Melungeons, and a panel discussion featuring Brent Kennedy, Manuel Mira, and others.. The Melungeons are a multi-racial and multi-ethnic people who were first documented in the Appalachian mountains at the end of the 18th century. Since that time, they have become a part of Appalachian folklore - "sons and daughters of the legend." Prior to the Civil War, some were classified as "free persons of color." More recently, they have been identified by anthropologists and sociologists as "tri-racial isolates" - an amalgam of European, Native American, and African-American ancestry. They faced discrimination, both legal and social, and tended to settle in isolated communities such as Newman's Ridge in Hancock County, Tennessee, or Stone Mountain, Virginia. Over the years, Melungeons kept to themselves -- or moved to other areas where their heritage was not suspect. Oral history among Melungeon families was often not shared with succeeding generations. "Melungeon" had become an epithet, even if no one knew where the word originated. Jean Patterson Bible wrote in 1975 that generations of intermarriage has resulted in near racial dissolution: "They'll be gone in a generation or two, except for an occasional dark-complected [sic] child as a reminder of the past." Instead, many Melungeon descendants are coming to recognize and embrace the diverse heritage that is theirs. They've been encouraged and inspired by Dr. N. Brent Kennedy, author of the 1994 book The Melungeons: The Resurrection of A Proud People; An Untold Story of Ethnic Cleansing in America. Kennedy, in researching his own family background, concludes that the Melungeons were descended from groups of Spaniards, Portuguese, Turks, Berbers, Moors, Jews, and others who arrived on these shores between the arrival of Columbus and the establishment of Jamestown. Generations of intermarriage with Europeans, Native Americans, and African-Americans resulted in the people now known as Melungeons. Participants may pre-register before June 1, for "Melungeon Roots: A Family Heritage Workshop" by sending a check or money order to: Melungeon Roots, P.O. Box 4042, Wise, VA 24293. Admission to the event is $5 for each pre-registered participant (before June 1), and $10 for those who register after June 1 and for on-site registrants. On-site registration begins Friday, June 25, at 7:00 pm at the Alumni Building on the Berea campus. The Melungeon Heritage Association, Inc. will hold a mixer on Friday night at the Alumni Building from 7 to 9 pm. Workshops will begin on Saturday morning at 9:00 am at Phelps-Stokes Hall, with welcoming remarks by Audie Kennedy, president of the Melungeon Heritage Association, Inc., and Gordon McKinney of the Berea College Appalachian Center. Workshops will be held in the Frost Building and Phelps Stokes chapel. Chat groups will be running all day at various locations on campus. Throughout the day, "Melungeon Roots" will feature "how-to" genealogy sessions as well as sessions on Native American, African-American, and Portuguese-American genealogy. A panel discussion with a question-and-answer session will close the workshop. "Melungeon Roots: A Family Heritage Workshop" is sponsored by the Appalachian Center at Berea College, continuing the college's long tradition of commitment to Appalachia and to diversity. The event is organized by the Melungeon Heritage Association, Inc. (MHA), a non-profit organization formed in 1998. MHA was an outgrowth of the highly successful First Union: A Melungeon Gathering held in Wise in 1997. In 1998, MHA sponsored Second Union, an even larger gathering which featured sessions and lectures on history, social issues, and medical issues, as well as genealogy. The gatherings are only a part of the work of MHA. The organization is also dedicated to several other tasks, including continued research and writing, telling the story of the Melungeon people, and contributing to the mosaic of a past that has been hidden too long. At the same time, MHA plans to collect and preserve the research and artifacts of the past, forming the basis of a Melungeon Research Center to give these materials a permanent home. MHA’s mission is to document and preserve the heritage and cultural legacy of mixed- ancestry people of the Southern Appalachians. While the focus will be on those of Melungeon heritage, they do not restrict themselves to honoring only this group, but believe in the dignity of all such mixed ancestry groups. MHA is committed to preserving this rich heritage of racial diversity and harmony. MHA plans to hold Third Union in the summer of 2000. In the meantime, "Melungeon Roots" is the first of several planned smaller events which will focus on individual aspects of Melungeon heritage. PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: MELUNGEON ROOTS "Melungeon Roots: A Family Heritage Workshop" will be held on the Berea College campus in Berea, Kentucky, on Saturday, June 26. This event will feature sessions on beginning, intermediate, and Internet genealogy, as well as specific sessions on other aspects of Melungeon genealogy. To register, send five dollars per registrant to Melungeon Roots, P.O. Box 4042, Wise, VA 24293.

Have I asked you folk what happened to the Mattingly sibs of my Mary Jane Mattingly who married Edward Thompson? Some of them went with her and Edward to Clay Co, IL-but none of the Mattingly clan stayed around long. Where did they go to? Who did they marry? Thanks. Melissa Thompson Alexander 1 Ignatius George MATTINGLY b: 24-Sep-1802 in Kentucky d: 1886 in Kentucky religion: Catholic .. +Anna Nancy CISSELL aka: Nancy Anna Cissell b: 11-Oct-1801 in Washington Co, Kentucky d: 13-May-1872 in Flora, Clay Co, IL m: 26-Feb-1825 Washington Co, Kentucky Father: Jeremiah Cecil Mother: Mary Vessels 2 [1] James MATTINGLY b: Abt. 1825 in KY d: Apr-1858 .... +Elizabeth UNKNOWN b: Abt. 1828 in KY *2nd Wife of [1] James Mattingly: .... +Angelina MATTINGLY b: WFT Est. 1802-1830 d: WFT Est. 1856-1918 m: WFT Est. 1856-1858 2 Mary Jane MATTINGLY aka: Martha Mattingly b: 28-Mar-1828 in Raywick, Marion Co ,KY d: 26-Jul-1906 in Flora, Clay Co, IL .... +Edward THOMPSON b: 6-Mar-1827 in KY d: 15-Nov-1875 in Louisville, Clay County, IL m: 15-Apr-1848 Raywick, Marion Co, KY Father: Clement Thompson Mother: Catherine Cecil 2 John MATTINGLY b: 1832 in Raywick, Marion Co, KY d: Abt. 1923 .... +Catherine MCMANNIS b: 1834 in Pennsylvania d: WFT Est. 1870-1929 m: 19-Feb-1856 Clay Co, IL 2 Elizabeth MATTINGLY b: Abt. 1833 d: WFT Est. 1834-1927 2 Paul Ignatius MATTINGLY b: Abt. 1835 d: WFT Est. 1836-1925 2 Sebastian MATTINGLY b: Abt. 1837 d: WFT Est. 1838-1927 2 Nancy Jane MATTINGLY b: Abt. 1838 d: WFT Est. 1839-1932 2 Edmond MATTINGLY b: Abt. 1840 d: WFT Est. 1841-1930

Has someone figured out which John B. Thompson this was (i.e. who his parents were)? 1 John B. THOMPSON b: 1778 in MD d: 14-Jul-1833 in St. Mary's, Marion Co, KY .. +Susan Elizabeth MATTINGLY b: 17-Mar-1787 d: 9-Mar-1872 in Marion Co, KY m: 13-Jun-1807 Washington Co, KY Father: John Mattingly Mother: Polly Fenwick religion: Catholic 2 [1] Edmund THOMPSON b: 1824 in Marion Co, KY .... +Mary Jane CLARK b: Bet. 1824 - 1842 Marriage Fact: in 2nd marriage Father: Joseph Lee Clark Mother: Ann Miles Marriage Fact: in 2nd marriage *2nd Wife of [1] Edmund Thompson: .... +Mary Ellen RUSSELL b: Bet. 1820 - 1825 d: 17-Mar-1855 in Marion Co, KY m: 22-Sep-1846 SFX, Raywick, KY Marriage Fact: in 1st marriage Father: Elias Russell, Sr. Mother: Elizabeth Clark Marriage Fact: in 1st marriage 2 Peter THOMPSON b: Bet. 1807 - 1830 2 Leo THOMPSON b: Bet. 1807 - 1830 2 John THOMPSON b: Bet. 1807 - 1830 2 Raphael THOMPSON b: Bet. 1807 - 1830 2 Benjamin THOMPSON b: Bet. 1807 - 1830 2 Elizabeth THOMPSON b: Bet. 1807 - 1830 2 Margaret THOMPSON b: Bet. 1807 - 1830 thanks. Melissa Thompson Alexander www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/ listowner: CECIL-L@rootsweb.com; KRUTSINGER-L@rootsweb.com Edmonds, WA USA

I've begun a track on my famlies geneology. Although we know that we are descendents of Francis Swamp Fox Marion, we still have several gaps in our history. I'm hoping to find them here.

This is for Randy Dunavan I tried twice to send you a thank you letter, but it keeps returning. I never expected to get such a huge data on the McAtees. Thank you so much. If I have any information you need. please let me know. Thanks again Marie L. Medley lmedley@ntr.net

Looking for information on Henry Maurice McAtee father of Clotilda McAtee wife of Walter Ozbourn. Any help is appreciated Thank you, Marie L. Medley lmedley@ntr.net

Looking for information on Henry Maurice McAtee .Washington or Marion County. I don't have his wife's name. His daughter was Clotilda McAteem married to Walter Ozbourn

Looking for any information on Thomas J. Back or Elizabeth Phillips. They were on the 1880 census in the Loretto District of Marion County. Elizabeth left Kentucky with her children in 1892 and moved to Texas, but do not know what happened to Thomas. Also looking for parents of Thomas and Elizabeth. Thank you Tracy Back tracarbac@aol.com

Robert Scott had son JOHN SCOTT born 1818 KY Mercer CO> ? John Morrow b 1795 KY ? w Rebecca or Patience Tuttle KY Rebecca MORROW b 1821 Mercer Co KY Rebecca MORROW m JOHN SCOTT*** had Cornelius Franklin or Franklin Cornelius SCOTT b 1855*** Druscilla Frances SCOTT STOCKER b 1843 Henry CO IOWA Nathaniel b 1845 Dalles 1846 Harriet b 1848 m ALFRED MCKIM Patience Scott 1852 m J MARLER John M 1860 Olive 1862 PART OF THIS DATA was in LDS LIbrary.. I am not sure its correct. Have had serious trouble for ten years trying to find this JOHN SCOTT and father Robert SCOTT in KY. Family said they thought from VA>>>> Can any one clue me in. Franklin's daughter was my Grandmother.... Inez Mae Scott HOFFMAN.. dcd WYO b IA. Any help appreciated.. SusiCP@aol.com