Hello Abell rooters. Does anyone have a Fabian. Would appreciate any data. 1. FABIAN1 ABELL was born 1869 in Kentucky, and died June 03, 1905 in St. Paul, Ks. Neosho County, Ks. St. Francis Catholic Cemetery. Randy Dunavan Longview, Texas

Christen, I'm sorry but do not find these names in this book. Jeanne > Jeanne; > Would you mind looking under Cartwright and McLain, in the "Early > Catholic Cemetery Listings of Washington, Nelson, and Marion ? > Thank You Much! > Christen >

Okay, folks, I have reposted my research to my web pages. Lots of new stuff. Take a look. Surnames to many to list. Most all immigrants from colonial Maryland and Virginia. Melissa Thompson Alexander listhost: CECIL-L@rootsweb.com; KRUTSTINGER-L@rootsweb.com www.familytreemaker.com/users/a/l/e/Melissa-T-Alexander/ mada@cmc.net Edmonds, WA USA

Jeanne; Would you mind looking under Cartwright and McLain, in the "Early Catholic Cemetery Listings of Washington, Nelson, and Marion ? Thank You Much! Christen

List, Here is an update on my Abell line. If anyone has information about any of these, or can help prove or disprove any of this, please advise! John Abell b. abt 1802 Washington Co. KY to Alathaire Abell. Believe John is a son of Joseph Abner Abell, and Alathaire may be Alathea Abell b. 1764 MD to Richard and Ann Abell. Alathaire also probably first wife of Joseph Abner. John Abell m. Dorothy Bowles 1/21/1825. Dorothy b. abt 1806 Washington Co.to Anthony and Alathaire Bowles, belive this is actually Alley Raley and Joseph Bowles, Alley recorded incorrectly as Alathaire inst of Aloysia, and Anthony a middle or baptismal name for Joseph, as it is a family name in his line. I find no evidence of an Anthony and Alathaire Bowles in Washington CO. Testees Joseph A. Abell, Enoch and Monica Bowles, surety Enoch Abell. Children of John and Dorothy(Bowles) Abell: 1) George Washington Abell, b. 6 Nov. 1828, baptized HNOM 21 Jan 1829, d. 16 Apr 1914, bur. HNOM, Calvary, Marion Co. KY. 1850 census shows George living with Louisa Bowles Murphy. May have served in Union 10th KY Infantry, Co. H. May have married Martha Ewing, dau. of John Ewing. 2) James Alexander Abell,baptized 18 Nov 1832 HNOM. GP: Louisa Bowles, J. Wathen. Not listed in 1850 Marion Co. census. 3)Rosella Abell, b. 1834. Living with Louisa Bowles Murphy in 1850 census. M. Alexander Tabler 1852 Marion Co. KY. Moved to Christian Co. IL, later to Andrew Co. MO. D. 1909 Andrew Co. MO. Children of Rosella Abell and Alexander Tabler: a. Madison Lawrence Tabler b. 1859, m. 29 Jun 1890 to Ella Fee b. 1873 MO, d.25 Jul 1958 b .Mary C. Tabler b. 1863, m. Mr. Thornton c. Benjamin L/orF. Tabler b. Apr 1868, m.abt 1892 to Sarah b. Sep 1875, d. 1950 MO d. Frances I Tabler b. 1873, m. Mr Wells 4) Enoch Abell b.28 Apr 1837. Living with Enoch and Elizabeth Pierceall Abell in 1850 census, is listed as Enoch Jr, but is NOT son of Enoch age 65 and Elizabeth age 64! May have served in Union 10th Kentucky Infantry, Co. H. 5) John Madison Abell, b. 26 Mar, 1839. Living with Elijah and Lucretia Abell Ewing in 1850 census. Moved to Christian Co. IL, m. Rebecca Hazlett Nelms abt 1858. Had 6 children. Left Rebecca and children, moved to TX, married Una Hammonds, had 4 children. Died bef 25 Dec 1900, Grimes Co TX. (My gg grandfather) 6) William David Abell , b.3 Mar 1843. Living w/ Henry and Elizabeth Abell Bland in 1850 census. Moved to Christian Co IL abt 1858? Then ? 7)Francis Lloyd Abell, b. 9 Jan 1843. Living with Enoch and Elizabeth Pierceall Abell in 1850 census. 8) Mary Jane Abell, b. 4 Feb 1845, baptized 1 Jun 1845 HNOM. Not listed in 1850 Marion Co.census. Married 1)James L. Brown abt 1863-65, he d. abt 1873-1880. Residedin Ohio Co. KY in 1880 census. Children of Mary Jane Abell and James Brown: a. Susan A. Brown, b. abt 1865 b. Eliza J. Brown b. abt 1867 c. Isaminta Brown b. abt 1871 Mary Jane married 2)Felix Napper 12 Jun 1880 Ohio Co KY; he resided Grayson Co KY. Apparently John and Dorothy were deceased by 1850, perhaps due to a cholera epidemic in KY in 1849. Would appreciate any responses! Beth Abel Jones

Anita, "Early Catholic Cemetery Listings of Washington, Nelson, and Marion Counties, Kentucky" c1984 by West Central Kentucky Family Research Association. I'm sorry but I do not find your Graves names in this book. Jeanne > I'm looking for the following: > > Charles Graves (died 1798) > Eleanor Graves (died c. 1815) > > Thanks for your time and effort. > > Anita Hoyer > buckeyegal1@msn.com

In a message dated 09/04/1999 7:42:05 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cogadh@concentric.net writes: << <KYMARION-L@rootsweb.com> >> I'm seeing double too.

Jeanne, I'm looking for the following: Charles Graves (died 1798) Eleanor Graves (died c. 1815) Thanks for your time and effort. Anita Hoyer buckeyegal1@msn.com

Yes, sometimes I even get 3; one from KYMARION-L, one from KYNELSON-L and the third from KYWASHIN-L. Is this happerning to you? Dick

Yes, getting two of every message! Pat Justice-Klusman -----Original Message----- From: PJS <pendon@execpc.com> To: KYMARION-L@rootsweb.com <KYMARION-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, September 03, 1999 9:49 PM Subject: [KYMARION-L] Double Messages >Getting two of of each message... Is anyone else getting double messages >on KYMARION list? >

Greetings All, Would any one have ancestry to William M Abell? Would apreciate any help. Descendants of William Madison Abell Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM MADISON1 ABELL was born Abt. 1811 in Kentucky, and died 1879 in Neosho Co., Kansas. He married MARY E. THOMAS October 14, 1833 in Washington Co., Ky. She was born Abt. 1806 in Kentucky, and died 1889 in Kansas. Notes for WILLIAM MADISON ABELL: Came to Kansas 1871 Children of WILLIAM ABELL and MARY THOMAS are: i. SUSAN ANN2 ABELL, b. Abt. 1838, Marion Co., Ky. 2. ii. ALBERT IGNATIUS ABELL, b. June 12, 1840, Marion Co., Ky; d. Bef. 1920, St Paul, Ks. iii. BENNETT THOMAS ABELL, b. Abt. 1841, Marion Co., Ky. iv. ELIZABETH ABELL, b. Abt. 1832, Marion Co., Ky. v. LUCINDA JANE ABELL, b. Abt. 1844, Marion Co., Ky. vi. WILLIAM ABELL, b. September 09, 1850, Marion Co., Ky; d. December 13, 1852, Marion Co., Ky. vii. SAMUEL L. ABELL, b. Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks. Generation No. 2 2. ALBERT IGNATIUS2 ABELL (WILLIAM MADISON1) was born June 12, 1840 in Marion Co., Ky, and died Bef. 1920 in St Paul, Ks. He married AMMADA E. LUCKETT November 1863, daughter of GEORGE W. LUCKETT. She was born 1843 in Kentucky, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1920. Children of ALBERT ABELL and AMMADA LUCKETT are: 3. i. MARY LILLIAN3 ABELL, b. March 1863, KY; d. St Paul, Ks. ii. KATIE ABELL, SR OF LORRATO. iii. WILLIAM F. ABELL, b. Neosho Co., Kansas; d. res Lake City, Colorado. iv. NORA ABELL, b. Neosho Co., Kansas; d. res Pueblo, NM. v. LOUISE ABELL, b. Neosho Co., Kansas. vi. OSWARLD ABELL, b. Neosho Co., Kansas. Generation No. 3 3. MARY LILLIAN3 ABELL (ALBERT IGNATIUS2, WILLIAM MADISON1) was born March 1863 in KY, and died in St Paul, Ks. She married JAMES J. OWENS October 25, 1887 in Osage Mission aka St. Paul, Ks, son of JOHN OWENS and ELLEN CUNNINGHAM. He was born March 1860 in KY, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1920. Notes for MARY LILLIAN ABELL: on 1910 St. Paul census Children of MARY ABELL and JAMES OWENS are: i. MARY ETHEL4 OWENS, b. September 1889, St Paul, Ks; d. res St Paul, Ks 1910. ii. JOHN OWENS, b. June 1891, St Paul, Ks; d. res St Paul, Ks 1910. 4. iii. ALBERT LEONARD 'AB' OWENS, b. July 22, 1893, St Paul, Ks; d. June 08, 1970, St Paul, Ks. iv. RAYMOND OWENS, b. July 1895, St Paul, Ks; d. res St Paul, Ks 1910. v. MARY ELEANOR OWENS, b. May 1899, St Paul, Ks; d. res St Paul, Ks 1910. vi. MARIE OWENS, b. 1902, St Paul, Ks; d. res St Paul, Ks 1910. vii. CARMEL OWENS, b. 1905, St Paul, Ks; d. res St Paul, Ks 1910. viii. JAMES G. 'BUD' OWENS, b. 1906, St Paul, Ks; d. St Paul, Ks. Generation No. 4 4. ALBERT LEONARD 'AB'4 OWENS (MARY LILLIAN3 ABELL, ALBERT IGNATIUS2, WILLIAM MADISON1) was born July 22, 1893 in St Paul, Ks, and died June 08, 1970 in St Paul, Ks. He married GENEVIEVE CRANDON May 23, 1922. She died in St Paul, Ks. Children of ALBERT OWENS and GENEVIEVE CRANDON are: 5. i. KENNETH EUGENE5 OWENS, b. St Paul, Ks; d. Of Wichita, Ks. ii. ALBERTA OWENS, d. January 04, 1950, Neosho Co., Ks; m. JOHN 'CASEY' O'BRYAN, June 14, 1949; b. October 25, 1927, St. Paul, Ks. 6. iii. JAMES R. 'DICK' OWENS, b. St Paul, Ks; d. res Parsons, Ks. iv. JOHN ALBAN OWENS, b. November 19, 1925, St. Paul, Ks; m. DELORES LEECH, 1951; b. Of Parsons, Ks. Generation No. 5 5. KENNETH EUGENE5 OWENS (ALBERT LEONARD 'AB'4, MARY LILLIAN3 ABELL, ALBERT IGNATIUS2, WILLIAM MADISON1) was born in St Paul, Ks, and died in Of Wichita, Ks. He married DORIS JEAN CASEY 1953 in St Paul, Ks, daughter of WILLIAM CASEY and OLIVE VOLMER. She was born January 26, 1931 in St. Paul, Ks. Children of KENNETH OWENS and DORIS CASEY are: i. PATRICIA6 OWENS, SR. ii. TERESA OWENS, m. COUTEE. iii. EMILY OWENS, m. BAALMAN. 6. JAMES R. 'DICK'5 OWENS (ALBERT LEONARD 'AB'4, MARY LILLIAN3 ABELL, ALBERT IGNATIUS2, WILLIAM MADISON1) was born in St Paul, Ks, and died in res Parsons, Ks. He married (1) RUTH HYDE 1947. She was born April 25, 1923 in Of Parsons, Ks, and died February 28, 1987. He married (2) BEULAH NEWTON 1995. Child of JAMES OWENS and RUTH HYDE is: i. JIM6 OWENS. Randy Dunavan Longview, Texas

Susan, I'm not sure how to rsearch orphanages in Indiana, but a starting point is to get the county in which Mitchell is located (probably near Daviess and Martin Co), then find out if there is a county historical society and inquire of them. Their local library is a good starting place. Just a suggestion. Shirley

Susan, "Early Catholic Cemetery Listings of Washington, Nelson, and Marion Counties, Kentucky" c1984 by West Central Kentucky Family Research Association. Sorry, but I don't find your Peter and Mary Thompson in this book. No, I don't know how you would go about searching orphanages in Mitchell. Jeanne > >Jeanne, Do you find anything in early Catholic cemeteries for a Peter or Mary Jane Brown(e) Thompson? They died in the late 1850's or early 60's. My great-grandmother was their daughter. She and several siblings were put in an orphanage (Catholic) when they died. She was only 4 at the time so I know very little about her family. She did have older brothers that fought in the Civil War but when they left for war she never saw them again. For some reason she and 2 sisters were sent to an orphanage in Mitchell Indiana. I don't know how to research any orphanages in Mitchell. If you have any suggestions please let me know. Thanks for doing this look-up. Susan

Martha, I do not find William Archie Ballard in this book. Thought this might be a daughter of James and Mary Regina? pg. 74 St. Francis Xavier Cemetery, Raywick, Marion Co, KY, on Hwy 84: Ballard, Mary Lillian d/o JE & MR b. 1903 d. 1917 There are some other Ballards. "Early Catholic Cemetery Listings of Washington, Nelson, and Marion Counties, Kentucky" c1984 by West Central Kentucky Family Research Association. Jeanne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Mar1210@aol.com> > To: <jcampise@prodigy.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:03 PM > Subject: Old Holy Name Cemetary & Other > > > > Hello, > > We have been trying to find proof of the existence of my great > uncle who > > was named William Archie Ballard. He would have been born circa 1889 > in > > Nelson County KY. He died in infancy, probably 1889 or 1890. His > parents > > were James and Mary Regina Cross Ballard. I was wondering if you > could look > > in your book to see if he is listed. > > Thank you, > > Martha Adkisson >

PJS, "Early Catholic Cemetery Listings of Washington, Nelson, and Marion Counties, Kentucky" c1984 by West Central Kentucky Family Research Association. pg. 42, St. Charles Cemetery, St. Mary, Marion Co, KY, on Hwy 327: Beaven, Charles s/o Edward b. Nov. 2, 1796 d. Feb. 8, 1869 Beaven, Cecily w/o Charles b. Jan. 14, 1800 d. Feb. 6, 1883 pg. 53, Holy Cross Cemetery, Marion Co, KY, on Hwy 49: Clark, Joseph b. Sept. 8, 1851 d. Aug. 4, 1900 Clark, Joseph b. Oct. 12, 1812 d, May 9, 1877 Clark, Joseph b. Aug. 8, 1834 d. 1902 pg. 56, Holy Cross: Smith, Thomas J. b. Aug. 20, 1872 d. Sept. 9, 1892 Jeanne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: PJS <pendon@execpc.com> > To: Jeanne Campise <jcampise@prodigy.net> > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: [KYMARION-L] Old Holy Name Cemetery (and other)! > > > > Jeanne... looking for these husband/wife buried Old Holy Name? > > (there are some without death dates)... thanks for any info: > > > > Charles A. BEAVEN d 8 Feb 1869 > > spouse: Cecelia (Luckett) BEAVEN d 26 Feb 1883 > > Francis Kendrick BEAVEN d 6 Feb 1910 > > spouse: Mary (Clark/Smith) BEAVEN d 21 June 1919 > > > > Joseph CLARK d 9 May 1878 > > spouse: Diellen (Ballard) CLARK d ???? > > > > William David DUGAN, Sr d ???? > > spouse: Catherine or Caroline Thomas > > William David DUGAN, Jr d 26 July 1914 > > 1st spouse: Celia "Cecelia" (Smith) DUGAN d Aug 1892 > > 2nd spouse: Jane (Smith) DUGAN d aft 1914 > > > > Thomas SMITH d ???? > > spouse: Delphine (Norris) SMITH d ???? > > > > >

Greetings All, Anyone working the Whalen Line? Looking to connect this family. Descendants of Lawrence E. Whalen Generation No. 1 1. LAWERENCE E.2 WHALEN (WHALEN1) was born 1881 in Kentucky, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1920. He married MARY E.. She was born 1883 in Kentucky. Children of LAWERENCE WHALEN and MARY E. are: i. JAMES H.3 WHALEN, b. Abt. 1914, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. ii. WALTER H. WHALEN, b. 1915, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 19. iii. JOSEPH WHALEN, b. 1918, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. Thanks Randy Dunavan Longview, Texas

----- Original Message ----- From: <AHoskinsbr@aol.com> To: <jcampise@prodigy.net> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 8:03 PM Subject: Re: WISE Sarah -- Which Wises are you looking for? My John Benjamin Hoskins married a Sarah Margaret WISE and I have some info on her family and am interested in what happened to their children. Ann Hoskins-Brown In a message dated 09/05/99 4:34:15 AM, you wrote: <<would you check for following names: WISE, WHITE, MORRISON,>>>

List, I know Marion County Courthouse was burned, but what records were lost? Were any saved? Any stored at other locations? Also, has anyone searched the records at Holy Name? Are you allowed full access to the records? Is it necessary to make an appointment? And is everything in Latin? Hoping to make a trip to the area soon, would appreciate any inside tips!! Beth

Another Shively? Can anyone connect this gentleman? Descendants of James R. Shively Generation No. 1 1. JAMES R.1 SHIVELY was born 1872 in Kentucky, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1910. Children of JAMES R. SHIVELY are: i. MARY M.2 SHIVELY, b. 1893, Kansas. ii. DAU. SHIVELY, b. 1894, Kansas. iii. JAMES R. SHIVELY, JR., b. 1895, Kansas. iv. JANIE M. SHIVELY, b. 1898, Kansas. v. WILLIAM H. SHIVELY, b. 1901, Kansas. vi. MARY SHIVELY, b. 1905, Kansas. Randy Dunavan Longview, Texas

Can anyone connect this hill family? Descendants of John W. Hill Generation No. 1 1. JOHN W.2 HILL (HILL1) was born 1860 in Kentucky, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1910. He married TRESA E.. She was born 1863 in Kentucky. Children of JOHN HILL and TRESA E. are: i. EARL3 HILL, b. 1889, Mo; d. res St Paul, Ks 1900. ii. MARY HILL, b. 1892, Mo; d. res St Paul, Ks 1910. iii. JOHN W. HILL, JR., b. 1897, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1900. iv. JAMES D. HILL, b. 1889, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1910. v. JOSEPH E. HILL, b. 1902, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1900. Randy Dunavan Longview, Texas