Thanks so much Sandy, I do believe that's the one I'm looking for, I know his wife was Catherine. Many many thanks. Are you a descendant of Alfred??? I have a diary of my great grandfather, John Collier that said he went to visit Alfred on one of his trips, near Portsmouth, OH. But no mention of how he was related or any children. Thanks again. I really appreciate your time in typing the information and looking it up for me. Donna