RootsWeb.com Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: j520-001.txt) DRAPER MSS: Jones, Robert - Interview events 1788 - Bourbon County, Kentucky From: Bob Francis [BOB has a great Bourbon Co Ky web site at [?] www.shawhan.com I'm going to edit,and abstract the following shorter for computer Email regulation purposes. HB Fagley Date: 04/11/2000 11:09 am Interview with Robert Jones from Draper Manuscripts "Pioneer History of Kentucky" appearing in "The Kentuckian-Citizen" May 1935 Courtesy Mrs. William B. Ardery The articles appeared in six installments. The first one is missing from the collection of newspapers. SECOND INSTALLMENT Bardstown,Nelson Co,Ky got Col Isaac Cox,of the WV panhandle,1780 HBF Ben Cox afterwards lived up by Bairdstown. Peter Cox was killed out back of Cincinnati. David Cox, in the upper part of the state of Ohio, above Wheeling.[Jefferson Co,OH HBF] George McCoy, and Peggy (Cox that was) his wife, were also killed up there. George McCoy was wounded, carried out, and tomahawked, out in the back of the fields. The wife was shot standing in the door. Their child, John McCoy, was taken prisoner, This was below Beaver, Pa., on the waters of Short Creek,, and after the time we are speaking of. These were Cox's boats. Joe Cox's wife, popping up her head, unduly anxious to see, was shot by the Indians, who now pursued along the shore. The shot only grazed her neck without hurting. Ben's hat, through the rim, on the back part. I got it as we went up, [Ohio-Brooke Co,WV HBF] Old Capt. Van Bevar (Bibber?), was captain at the mouth of the Kenhawa, at the time of Lewis' battle. [1774] While we were there, Jacob Van Bevar, his bro. and a negro man named Daniel, (Van Bevar lived about a hundred or 150 steps above the Fort) were out with a little boy, out hobbling their horses, the evening before. The little boy came and told them he saw In...............us: Evan [Maysville,Mason Co,Ky hbf] Shelby, who had kept a store at Limestone, and traded some of his goods for furs and peltries, a There were two roads leading from Lexington, [KY-RUDDLE RD] the Riddle road, and the Limestone road., In 1790, while I was at Limestone, I visited my father's by Lexington., (1793 ?). Returning I Timothy Downing had just passed on down the road, leading a horse, and if I.........o cook any, which I did and got to Blue Licks without ever meeting or hearing anything of Downing, and when I got to the Blue Licks, he had not passed. After waiting a while, I passed on down to Washington, and [Mason,Ky] related the circumstances. Soon after which Neill Washburn, also came[Cornelius] i The wagons were between Mayslick and Johnson's Fork. I spent the night at Limestone. 60 of us went down under Kenton and 3 captains., Joshua Baker, [1774,at Baker's WV cabin,Logan's family was massacred,but this is years later,and Mason Co,Ky HBF] redheaded Alexander McIntyre, and one Davis. The boats were carried round and hid upon White Oak, and 7 joined us there. [BROWN CO,OH]............een. Both were blue-eyed. Bill Frame and Archibald Frame, some said they were., That day, an hour, before sun down, we got back. And that day Downing, also, got back down the river. 7 McIntyre was afterwards taken by the Indians, and or lost among them. THIRD INSTALLMENT Jan. 18, 1788-At the mouth of Ohio Eagle Creek, [Brown Co,Oh] Robt. Walker and myself plundered an Indian camp We were now on our way to MISSOURI,SPAINISH, 20th. of May got back to Louisville, 24th of June, got back to Pa. I was out and in 14 times. Twice I was in company with 8 men, who had left from my own neighborhood, and all within the hollow of me, and all both times lost. [WV panhandle to Ky 8 times HBF] Jack Dial was Captain of my company, Ben Whiteman Lieutenant, and myself ensign, In the company under Scott, that campaign. He also commanded the Mason company of spies. [Mason Co,Ky] Inashington, till Jan. 18, 1789. I there met with the 2 Walkers, who were known to many of Col.George Morgan's Co., which he added to in Pa., after leaving New Jersey. And they being led to join by their acquaintance. I was led to join them by my acquaintance. I then went on with that company to the Spanish settlement on the Mississippi. Col. George, Morgan of [Philadelphia ]and New Jersey, had gotten a grant of land at New Madrid,Mo Every man was to have 300 acres of land who would go. The company met with these Walkers and got them, & they got me. Walker and- I went down ahead in that canoe,success, & I . The Indians killed one son of old James Campbell (brother of Mathew .Campbell that lived at Limestone. He was killed just over the river from there in the spring, and just before I returned from over the Mississippi. Perhaps was hunting. Col. G. Morgan's company amounted to 75, about, in 2 keels, & 5 or 6 flats. We loaned our spare money at Louisville, to buy bells?, Pickled pork, etc. Among the surveyors, about 6, were John Walker, "Pete Light," old Mr. Rankins, and" John Ward". When we got to Missouri, we wouldn't take the land. He wanted us to give 9d an acre, and we didn't want it. We came back and he went on down and back by way of New Orleans. We never got one half our money. It took half of it to get the rest, which The Indians were far more dreadfully worse about Wheeling than ever in Ky. [Jousha McQueen said the oppisite HBF] We were not troubled in Missouri. They were with us every day, and every night, in perfect friendship. It was a Spanish country, and they had only to leave to live there. They were not to trouble the Spaniards, or anybody they sent there. As soon as we entered the Ohio, though, we had to stand guard, 2 hours at a time, all night. One woman, called Molly Morgan, that went on to wash for them, staid in that country, and several others; right at the mouth of the creek where New Madrid now is. We surveyed from there, out back. The Indians had a town close by where we landed, Cherokees, Chickasaws, Delawares, Shawnees, etc. Here they brought in scalps and prisoners, frequently: They had a young woman for one of their prisoners. One Jacob Markle, My father came down in the spring of 1790. It was the coldest spring I ever knew. He staid a season at the Irish, Station, near Millersburgh. [Bourbon Co,Ky] Fall 1792. John Edgington (&w. old Mrs. Nelson), Bill Williams, Joe Wells (&w. Archibald McDonald) and myself, had a boat coming down the Ohio; when we got down opposite the mouth of the Scioto, [Portsmouth,Oh]the Indians raised the hollow. ........... General Scott, he told me. In one of our scouting parties, had come within 2 miles of where he lay, spring 1792. Jacob & Daniel Light's came on back with us. That Daniel Light that was with us in Missouri. The Indians attacked the boat, and killed & wounded all that were in it but 2. Yet the boat was saved. Their boat was 15 or 20 miles behind ours. That, Daniel Light they wounded in 7 places. [Peter,Daniel,Jacob AND John LIGHT in Clermont Co,Oh-My dad was raised on the old Peter Light farm-HBF] FOURTH INSTALLMENT Bill Lynn was the Captain at the Grove Creek defeat, in the time of the old revolution. He was killed at his station in Kentucky, near Middletown. There, was never as much death from the Indians in Pennsylvania, as lower down in Virginia, where that narrow strip and those short creeks, made it all a frontier. WV panhandle Ohio ,Brooke,Hancock Co,WV [Va] [Bourbon Co,KY'S] Millersburgh. 1790.. Irish station. Came, landed at Limestone, 3rd May. Las not picketed. One John Cahie, of the Irish station killed a Mr. McCutchen of Millers station, a widower this fall. McCutchen had pursued turkeys over to the neighborhood of Irish station, where Cahie was Jimmy Barbour, Andrew Caldwell, old Mr. Frazier, John Cahie, his sons, Geo., Wm., and Jim, (and a son John also?) were at the Irish station. It Landed at Louisville spring of 1789, May 20th, went up by Owen's Station, near where Shelbyville now is, and from there went on across to where Frankfort now is. There were only three little bush pole cabins at that place. And one Jerry Gullion set us, Johnny & Bob Walker, & myself, over the river. Staid that night at old Wm. Haydon.'s, about a mile out. The fall of 1789, I returned from Pa., and down back of Marietta,. to hunt, Saw Col. Harrod there for the last time. He stopped about a month or more, at one Saml. McCullough's. Was there a hunting. He and I hunted a good deal there together. [Ross Co,Oh] Joseph Jones, my brother, was killed on Paint Creek, in the spring of 1792. Had gone out a scout under Kenton. The Indians came on the camp in t......t. John Jones, my brother, I was a boy then, was killed at the Beech Bottom [WV] Fort, on the Ohio, above Wheeling. The Indians were laying in ambush. New Robinson, & my brother, were coming from Ramsey's Fort, about 6 miles off. Ned was shot in this way, viz., etc.-My brother told Robinson to tell Capt. Jos. Ogle to come out that he was mortally wounded. After this my brother, Ignatius Jones, with this same gun that John had, was taken out of the head of the Muskingum, from Fort Tuscara--was, time [1778] Fort Laurens,at Bolivar,Oh was beseiged the 1778 winter HBF] of McIntosh's campaigns, carried out to Sandusky towns, got away, and was out 1he britch, & he brought it off. He died out on Mad River in Ohio. Charles Norris, and a woman named Bilderback, at the mouth of Short Creek above Wheeling,WV hadn't been married, it was said, and moved over to the other side to avoid the law. [Jefferson Co,Oh-she SWEDISH] This was the first man and woman that lived in Ohio. He was there & this woman with him, when I came, August 1779, in first block house ever built in Ohio. It was on the upper side of Short Creek, right at the point. That was a stopping place, & crossing place for those who went out and over land jobbing. "They then thought that preemptions could be made in Ohio, as well as in Ky. " [Ohio was Illinois Co,Va til 1784 HBF] Thd was killed. 'Twas said he and her were never married at all. But all the frontiers were settled with such kind of people. It is so now way out in the frontiers of Missouri. Tilton gave $70 for a cabin, as an improvement, but it fell into the hands of Congress & he had to give $3600 for 900 acres. Pennsylvania and Virginia were taken up by improvements. FIFTH INSTALLMENT I was 16 when I came down. 79 now. 63 years ago. 63-42 equals 19 1842-63 equals 1779. Wm. Green, afterwards in Bracken, was one of those in Missouri. Bob Walker was married to his sister. I came down, time of St. Claires defeat [1791], with another boatload, but it was as great a defeat to me, as it was to the army. I Ben Hewlin? was Lynne's interpreter when he first came down to Cincinnati. He was chased by the Indians out back of Point Pleasant. Was cun, & crept back to the mouth of the Kenhawa, where he hallooed o......... Brother-in-law was cabined there on Short Creek, long before it was congress' land. One Maj. Hamtrammock, passed down toward Louisville, and burned every cabin on that side. But they soon put them up again.[jEFFERSON CO OHIO squatters burnt out by US Army 1788 era-my colony then to Boonesboro,KY hbf] At the time that McBevar was taken, or killed, one Allen was sent up to the salt-works-are now on Elk Creek--to let them be warned. One Morris family lived on Elk up there. They went back afterwards. Dr. Thompson & Bill Owens, seeing them, was shooting a. welcome, and like to have killed themselves. Bbushel of corn was from a dollar to 10/s. My brother, Jonas Jones, now the other side of Owenton, was along, 9 miles on the Cincinnati road, 4 miles from Liberty. [KY] Bob Todd married a Jenny Lytle. Was killed coming down the, hill, to other side, opposite Frankfort. The killing of him was the making of old General WM Lytle. Todd had just gotten in as surveyor over in Ohio, and Lytle succeeded him. Ne. I went with Lytle his 1st trip to survey, spring 1791? in Ohio, as hunter. [Va Military District. Todd's Fork, Todd's Run,Williamsburg Oh founder] Surveyor Arthur FOX,of Washington and Dover,Mason Co,Ky HBF] Fox died, and Harry Lee married his widow. There was Peter Lee, too, a brother. It was out back of Manchester, Lytle & we were.[Adams Co,Oh ] SIXTH INSTALLMENT Crooked Creek emptied into the Kenhawa, where Lewis' battle was. 1774 The Indians crossed at Old Town Creek, and at the mouth, and then came down & hid in the banks of the gully that came into the Ohio, About 300 years or 400 yards above the mouth of the Kenhawa and headed nearly up to Crooked Creek, leaving only a little marshy place. The fort was about 50 yards from the top of the Kenhawa bank, mostly cabined, a little picketing, that was between. Then 150 yards to Van Bevars. Then 100 or 150 to the gully. Crooked Creek came in about a fourth of a mile of the point, and spoiled all the bottom along up the Ohio running so crooked, The Indians got in that gully, and passed over into Short Creek, and thought from behind to drive Lewis into the Ohio. He left 400 men with the baggage, and brought 700 into the engagement. DUNMORE'S WAR 1774 Tother side of Johnson's fork, and facing the creek hills, one lawyer Jones was killed, and thrown against the logs. This before I came out. Gabriel Jones,who had been to Williamsburg,Va for aid for Ky -HBF O Israel Donaldson was with us when we were out to the heads of the Little Miami, within 12 miles of the Indian towns, where were 200 warriors, & only 67 of us. We turned back where we crossed the prairie where Downing got away. We saw where they had spilled the bear's oil on the grass, it looked like it had been singed by fire. Lytle lived at that time 7 miles from Lexington, on the Bethel Meeting house road, within a mile of the meeting house. Nat. Mapie's town was up by the 3 islands. [Massie's Manchester,Oh] In the fall of 1773 I went down to Wheeling country, to a sister and sister-in-law's. Staid there the winter. Spring 1774, the Indians became so bad, we had to go back to the Monongahela. (We had at first moved from Virginia, before coming to Pa.) DUNMORE'S WAR -Logan's MASSACRE One Grant made an expedition to Pitt after Braddock, and the Indians ambushed and cut him off, They met Forbes way at Ligonier, & were defeated, and then he took Pitt. 1758 french and Indian war The first buffalo I ever saw, was on the last day of March 1786, 6 miles above Limestone, feeding on the Cabin Creek bottom.Mason-Lewis Co,Ky June 16, 1790, I went out from Millers station to kill a deer for my father ...... i. There were 2 stations Wm. Miller's and John's. (John Miller). That night the Indians came, June 17, 1790, and stole all the horses from Wm. Miller's station, and came right down the road, & rode right in the lane, through the Irish station. Suppose they hadn't known it was there yet. 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