Dr. Wm Talley can discuss the Marshall's better than I. US SUPREME COURT JUSTICE,John Marshall might have been the John Marshall. His father, Col Thomas Marshall was the official surveyor for Fayette Co,Va, [Ky] and maybe later,Mason Co,Va [Ky.] Col Thomas Marshall's will mentions son,Lewis Marshall,among others, and his will,and 2 codicils are all witnessed by Thomas Keith. I'm trying to remember thru 15 years of cobwebs,about land lawyer, Martin Marshall,of Augusta,Bracken,and s Ohio courts. His father was kinsman of the above. A Baptist minister of Va and n Ky. I think he was Rev John Marshall. Faurquir sp? Co , Va was their homes. I've spent too many hours amid the hornets,and the rattlesnakes on the ridge 2-3 miles south of St Paul,Ky to think I'd like to farm those ridges. There were also quarries running just across the Ohio, at the Adams-Scioto Co ,Oh line. Sandstone for Cincinnati's bridge piers,and canal locks,I guess. Maybe for the iron furnaces of Scioto and Lawrence Co,Oh,and Greenup Co,Ky. Closer to Cincinnati, our limestone is in much narrower ledges. And much is weakened by being embedded by fossils.[sea shells,,coral,etc] I think another occupation was touched on. Boat building. But I think the quarried stone was floated down-river on rafts. Maybe that sold upstream required steamboats. Anyway,Col Thomas Marshall was the most landed man in n Ky. Other Ky official county surveyors also amassed much wealth,in land. Green Clay,of Madison Co,and JOHN MAY,of old Jefferson Co,Va [Ky ] claimed title to much more than Col Thomas Marshall. I read someplace 20+ years ago that Green Clay won 90 straight land suits. His son was "The Lion of White Hall,Ky" Ambassador Cassius Marcellius Clay. On Sun, 02 Sep 2001 17:31:25 -0400 Randal W Cooper <rwcooper@kellnet.com> writes: > Dear Subscribers to Rootsweb's Mailing List for Lewis County, > Kentucky, > > Greenup County, Kentucky Deed Book "L", page 257, has an intriguing > entry, that also mentions Lewis County. Can anyone help me > understand > several elements of this document? > Let us examine the text: > > In 1853, the Ohio River Land and Marble Company, organized under the > laws of Connecticut, sold 40,000 acres for $470,000 to the Ohio > River > Land and Marble Company, organized under the laws of the state of > New > York. > > The 40,000-acre tract was situated on the Ohio River in Greenup and > Lewis Counties, Kentucky. The tract was surveyed March 15, 1785 by > John > MARSHALL and was designated as Treasury Warrant 17721, patented by > the > Commonwealth of Virginia. > > On January 9, 1788, John MARSHALL acquired the tract, which followed > the > lines of Thomas KIETH's and Lewis MARSHALL's surveys. > > The two witnesses to this transaction were Henry WARNER and Thomas > S. > KETTELL. If I understand the record, the deed was conveyed to > Stephen > KNOP of New York City; Edward WARREN, President; H.G. SMITH, > Treasurer. > Certain bonds, $100,000 worth, were to be gathered up. John BISSELL > of > New York was Commissioner, acting for the Commonwealth of Kentucky, > June > 1, 1853. > > There are certain things that I do not understand about this > document. > It appears that the Ohio River Land and Marble Company reorganized > and > transferred its assets to the new corporation. > > Thank you for any help you can render, in analyzing this 1853 > conveyance. From what little I know of the Ohio River Land and > Marble > Company, the community of Quincy in Lewis County was contained > within > its bounds, and may have been the sole employer for men of Quincy, > in > quarrying operations. It does not appear that the Ohio River Land > and > Marble Company was in business very long. > > Sincerely, > > Randal W. Cooper > > > ==== KYLEWIS Mailing List ==== > > Messge Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa .states.kentucky.counties.lewis&o=1&maxrows=25&dir=next > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Sounds like a Rev. War. land patent. Generals were granted at least 10,000 acres for "back pay" (don't remember exactly, may have been more). There were other kinds of land patents too. It's a beginning. ----- Original Message ----- From: Randal W Cooper To: KYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:31 PM Subject: [ KYLEWIS] The Ohio River Land and Marble Company, 1853 Dear Subscribers to Rootsweb's Mailing List for Lewis County, Kentucky, Greenup County, Kentucky Deed Book "L", page 257, has an intriguing entry, that also mentions Lewis County. Can anyone help me understand several elements of this document? Let us examine the text: In 1853, the Ohio River Land and Marble Company, organized under the laws of Connecticut, sold 40,000 acres for $470,000 to the Ohio River Land and Marble Company, organized under the laws of the state of New York. The 40,000-acre tract was situated on the Ohio River in Greenup and Lewis Counties, Kentucky. The tract was surveyed March 15, 1785 by John MARSHALL and was designated as Treasury Warrant 17721, patented by the Commonwealth of Virginia. On January 9, 1788, John MARSHALL acquired the tract, which followed the lines of Thomas KIETH's and Lewis MARSHALL's surveys. The two witnesses to this transaction were Henry WARNER and Thomas S. KETTELL. If I understand the record, the deed was conveyed to Stephen KNOP of New York City; Edward WARREN, President; H.G. SMITH, Treasurer. Certain bonds, $100,000 worth, were to be gathered up. John BISSELL of New York was Commissioner, acting for the Commonwealth of Kentucky, June 1, 1853. There are certain things that I do not understand about this document. It appears that the Ohio River Land and Marble Company reorganized and transferred its assets to the new corporation. Thank you for any help you can render, in analyzing this 1853 conveyance. From what little I know of the Ohio River Land and Marble Company, the community of Quincy in Lewis County was contained within its bounds, and may have been the sole employer for men of Quincy, in quarrying operations. It does not appear that the Ohio River Land and Marble Company was in business very long. Sincerely, Randal W. Cooper ==== KYLEWIS Mailing List ==== Messge Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.lewis&o=1&maxrows=25&dir=next

Dear Subscribers to Rootsweb's Mailing List for Lewis County, Kentucky, Greenup County, Kentucky Deed Book "L", page 257, has an intriguing entry, that also mentions Lewis County. Can anyone help me understand several elements of this document? Let us examine the text: In 1853, the Ohio River Land and Marble Company, organized under the laws of Connecticut, sold 40,000 acres for $470,000 to the Ohio River Land and Marble Company, organized under the laws of the state of New York. The 40,000-acre tract was situated on the Ohio River in Greenup and Lewis Counties, Kentucky. The tract was surveyed March 15, 1785 by John MARSHALL and was designated as Treasury Warrant 17721, patented by the Commonwealth of Virginia. On January 9, 1788, John MARSHALL acquired the tract, which followed the lines of Thomas KIETH's and Lewis MARSHALL's surveys. The two witnesses to this transaction were Henry WARNER and Thomas S. KETTELL. If I understand the record, the deed was conveyed to Stephen KNOP of New York City; Edward WARREN, President; H.G. SMITH, Treasurer. Certain bonds, $100,000 worth, were to be gathered up. John BISSELL of New York was Commissioner, acting for the Commonwealth of Kentucky, June 1, 1853. There are certain things that I do not understand about this document. It appears that the Ohio River Land and Marble Company reorganized and transferred its assets to the new corporation. Thank you for any help you can render, in analyzing this 1853 conveyance. From what little I know of the Ohio River Land and Marble Company, the community of Quincy in Lewis County was contained within its bounds, and may have been the sole employer for men of Quincy, in quarrying operations. It does not appear that the Ohio River Land and Marble Company was in business very long. Sincerely, Randal W. Cooper

If anyone has the 1820 Lewis Co., KY, Census, would you look up JONATHAN HAYDON p. 96, no township listed, and give me the details? Thank you

Is there anyone who can do a census lookup on the 1830 Lewis Co., KY, Census? Would like to know the details about a "JONATHAN HAYDEN, p. 321, no township listed." Thank you. Jeannine

During the War of 1812, the men of the county were divided up into militia and so noted on the tax lists. My ancestors were under Colonel Powell. Could someone tell me about him? Katheryn Maddox Haddad

Dear Subscribers to the Lewis County, Kentucky Discussion Group, I would like to thank Hermon Brown Fagley and Derre S. Maybury for their helpful messages! I greatly appreciate their scholasticism. Let us further examine the Agreement. According to the Agreement recorded in Lewis County Deed Book "P", page 363, dated November 15, 1860, John BOYLE was the owner of a steam engine that was located at the "Young America" sawmill on Briery Creek in Lewis County, Kentucky. I wish I knew where that mill was situated! John BOYLE(S) sold the steam engine to S.S. SMITH for the sum of $284.45, which was to be paid on or before February 10, 1861, about three months from the drafting of the Agreement. S.S. SMITH was to saw and deliver a boat pattern to John BOYLE at the mill, by November 25, 1860. If Mr. SMITH fulfilled this stipulation, Captain BOYLE was to pay fifty dollars for the boat pattern. The pattern was to be sufficient for a boat one hundred feet long and twenty feet wide. The further sum of fifty dollars was to be given to S.S. SMITH on February 10, 1861, provided that Mr. SMITH had paid off and discharged his debt of $284.45, due John BOYLE for the steam engine. If SMITH failed to pay the $284.45 as required, he would lose the fifty dollars due for the boat pattern. In addition, S. SMITH would give up and deliver the steam engine to John BOYLE. The two witnesses to this Agreement were Henry MCKEE and O. WOOD (given name unklnown to me). The Lewis County Clerk wrote a date of January 7, 1861, which appears to have been the day the Clerk recorded the Agreement. I have no knowledge of how the arrangement worked out. However, Captain John BOYLE's steamboating days were near an end in February of 1861, because his obituary (1901, Ironton, Ohio) stated that John BOYLE was a steamboatman in antebellum days. My questions, in conclusion, are in two clusters: Question Cluster Number One: Could the steam engine that was at the sawmill have been an engine for a steamboat? Or, was it the kind of a steam engine that would be used to run a sawmill? Were steam engines for boats and steam engines for sawmills interchangeable? Question Cluster Number Two: Does anyone have more information regarding S.S. SMITH and O. WOOD? What were their given names? What were their occupations? Where did they live? I hope to find out more, concerning any connections to John BOYLE. Thanks! I am willing to share any information at my disposal. Sincerely, Randal W. Cooper

Hi, The boat pattern was exactly that .. Pre -cut boat. It could of been a flat bottom type barge or even steam .. Since he was a "Trader" .. I would think that is what he ordered. Many Barge type boats were pre-cut and shipped to the new owners and they would built themselves. Think of the dimensions , One Hundred feet long and Twenty feet wide .. Derre ----- Original Message ----- From: K. Haddad <khaddad@attcanada.ca> To: <KYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [ KYLEWIS] Sawmill on Briery Creek; "Boat Pattern" to be Delivered to John BOYLE by S.S. SMITH > I would think a boat pattern would be a miniature model. > > Katheryn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Randal W Cooper > To: KYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:01 PM > Subject: [ KYLEWIS] Sawmill on Briery Creek; "Boat Pattern" to be Delivered to John BOYLE by S.S. SMITH > > > Dear Members of the Lewis County, Kentucky Mailing List, > > S.S. SMITH (given name unknown to me)agreed to saw and deliver a "BOAT > PATTERN" to John BOYLE(S). > > The Agreement was dated November 15, 1860, and was recorded in Lewis > County Deed Book "P", page 363. > > According to the text of the Agreement, S.S. SMITH's "boat pattern" > (what is that?) was to be sufficient to build a boat one hundred feet > long and twenty feet wide, and was to be delivered to John BOYLE on or > before November 25, 1860. I presume that this boat was to be a > steamboat, although I have no evidence for that detail. > > The sawmill that was to be used in making this boat pattern was situated > on Briery Creek near (or in) the Ohio River community of Quincy. The > mill's name was the "Young America Mill". For this boat pattern, John > BOYLE agreed to pay S.S. SMITH fifty dollars, at the time of delivery. > > Please note that S.S. SMITH had TEN DAYS to saw and deliver the boat > pattern to John BOYLE. There is more to the Agreement, but I will stop > at that point and ask my "Burning Questions", with which I entreat your > help: > > Question Number One: What exactly WAS a "Boat Pattern" in 1860? Whatever > it was, it could be made in ten days. > > Question Number Two: Where on Briery Creek was the "Young America Mill" > located? At the mouth, on the Ohio River? Were steamboats built and > launched from the "Young America Mill"? > > Thank you for any feedback on the content of this posting! > > Sincerely, > > Randal W. Cooper > > P.S. John BOYLE was listed as a "Trader" by occupation, in the 1860 > Census of Lewis County, Kentucky, along with his business partner Henry > MCKEE. I suspect that their "trading" was on the Ohio River, with the > aid of a steamboat, but I have found no evidence for this assertion. I > do know that by the outbreak of the Civil War, John BOYLE's work on the > river as a steamboatman had ended. > > Second P.S. Iron Furnaces were given names (such as "Amanda", "Buffalo" > and "New Hampshire") so, naming sawmills is not too surprising. > > > ==== KYLEWIS Mailing List ==== > > Messge Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.kentucky.counties.lewis&o=1&maxrows=25&dir=next > > > > > ==== KYLEWIS Mailing List ==== > > Messge Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.kentucky.counties.lewis&o=1&maxrows=25&dir=next > >

I heard,on [?] C-SPAN, IN A SHOW ON MARK TWAIN, that the average life of a steamboat,on the rivers,was about a year. You read of them being built many places along the Ohio. You read of the same steam engine being salvaged,and used on more than 1 boat.. Regardless, it took many explosians before a steam preasure regulator valve was invented. S.S.Smith's sawmill,it'self.could have been steam powered,or creek water powered. There was,on the east side of old Cincinnati,in the FULTON area along Eastern Avenie,a steamboat building area. On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:01:20 -0400 Randal W Cooper <rwcooper@kellnet.com> writes: > Dear Members of the Lewis County, Kentucky Mailing List, > > S.S. SMITH (given name unknown to me)agreed to saw and deliver a > "BOAT > PATTERN" to John BOYLE(S). > > The Agreement was dated November 15, 1860, and was recorded in Lewis > County Deed Book "P", page 363. > > According to the text of the Agreement, S.S. SMITH's "boat pattern" > (what is that?) was to be sufficient to build a boat one hundred > feet > long and twenty feet wide, and was to be delivered to John BOYLE on > or > before November 25, 1860. I presume that this boat was to be a > steamboat, although I have no evidence for that detail. > > The sawmill that was to be used in making this boat pattern was > situated > on Briery Creek near (or in) the Ohio River community of Quincy. The > mill's name was the "Young America Mill". For this boat pattern, > John > BOYLE agreed to pay S.S. SMITH fifty dollars, at the time of > delivery. > > Please note that S.S. SMITH had TEN DAYS to saw and deliver the boat > pattern to John BOYLE. There is more to the Agreement, but I will > stop > at that point and ask my "Burning Questions", with which I entreat > your > help: > > Question Number One: What exactly WAS a "Boat Pattern" in 1860? > Whatever > it was, it could be made in ten days. > > Question Number Two: Where on Briery Creek was the "Young America > Mill" > located? At the mouth, on the Ohio River? Were steamboats built and > launched from the "Young America Mill"? > > Thank you for any feedback on the content of this posting! > > Sincerely, > > Randal W. Cooper > > P.S. John BOYLE was listed as a "Trader" by occupation, in the 1860 > Census of Lewis County, Kentucky, along with his business partner > Henry > MCKEE. I suspect that their "trading" was on the Ohio River, with > the > aid of a steamboat, but I have found no evidence for this assertion. > I > do know that by the outbreak of the Civil War, John BOYLE's work on > the > river as a steamboatman had ended. > > Second P.S. Iron Furnaces were given names (such as "Amanda", > "Buffalo" > and "New Hampshire") so, naming sawmills is not too surprising. > > > ==== KYLEWIS Mailing List ==== > > Messge Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa .states.kentucky.counties.lewis&o=1&maxrows=25&dir=next > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I would think a boat pattern would be a miniature model. Katheryn ----- Original Message ----- From: Randal W Cooper To: KYLEWIS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:01 PM Subject: [ KYLEWIS] Sawmill on Briery Creek; "Boat Pattern" to be Delivered to John BOYLE by S.S. SMITH Dear Members of the Lewis County, Kentucky Mailing List, S.S. SMITH (given name unknown to me)agreed to saw and deliver a "BOAT PATTERN" to John BOYLE(S). The Agreement was dated November 15, 1860, and was recorded in Lewis County Deed Book "P", page 363. According to the text of the Agreement, S.S. SMITH's "boat pattern" (what is that?) was to be sufficient to build a boat one hundred feet long and twenty feet wide, and was to be delivered to John BOYLE on or before November 25, 1860. I presume that this boat was to be a steamboat, although I have no evidence for that detail. The sawmill that was to be used in making this boat pattern was situated on Briery Creek near (or in) the Ohio River community of Quincy. The mill's name was the "Young America Mill". For this boat pattern, John BOYLE agreed to pay S.S. SMITH fifty dollars, at the time of delivery. Please note that S.S. SMITH had TEN DAYS to saw and deliver the boat pattern to John BOYLE. There is more to the Agreement, but I will stop at that point and ask my "Burning Questions", with which I entreat your help: Question Number One: What exactly WAS a "Boat Pattern" in 1860? Whatever it was, it could be made in ten days. Question Number Two: Where on Briery Creek was the "Young America Mill" located? At the mouth, on the Ohio River? Were steamboats built and launched from the "Young America Mill"? Thank you for any feedback on the content of this posting! Sincerely, Randal W. Cooper P.S. John BOYLE was listed as a "Trader" by occupation, in the 1860 Census of Lewis County, Kentucky, along with his business partner Henry MCKEE. I suspect that their "trading" was on the Ohio River, with the aid of a steamboat, but I have found no evidence for this assertion. I do know that by the outbreak of the Civil War, John BOYLE's work on the river as a steamboatman had ended. Second P.S. Iron Furnaces were given names (such as "Amanda", "Buffalo" and "New Hampshire") so, naming sawmills is not too surprising. ==== KYLEWIS Mailing List ==== Messge Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.lewis&o=1&maxrows=25&dir=next

Dear Members of the Lewis County, Kentucky Mailing List, S.S. SMITH (given name unknown to me)agreed to saw and deliver a "BOAT PATTERN" to John BOYLE(S). The Agreement was dated November 15, 1860, and was recorded in Lewis County Deed Book "P", page 363. According to the text of the Agreement, S.S. SMITH's "boat pattern" (what is that?) was to be sufficient to build a boat one hundred feet long and twenty feet wide, and was to be delivered to John BOYLE on or before November 25, 1860. I presume that this boat was to be a steamboat, although I have no evidence for that detail. The sawmill that was to be used in making this boat pattern was situated on Briery Creek near (or in) the Ohio River community of Quincy. The mill's name was the "Young America Mill". For this boat pattern, John BOYLE agreed to pay S.S. SMITH fifty dollars, at the time of delivery. Please note that S.S. SMITH had TEN DAYS to saw and deliver the boat pattern to John BOYLE. There is more to the Agreement, but I will stop at that point and ask my "Burning Questions", with which I entreat your help: Question Number One: What exactly WAS a "Boat Pattern" in 1860? Whatever it was, it could be made in ten days. Question Number Two: Where on Briery Creek was the "Young America Mill" located? At the mouth, on the Ohio River? Were steamboats built and launched from the "Young America Mill"? Thank you for any feedback on the content of this posting! Sincerely, Randal W. Cooper P.S. John BOYLE was listed as a "Trader" by occupation, in the 1860 Census of Lewis County, Kentucky, along with his business partner Henry MCKEE. I suspect that their "trading" was on the Ohio River, with the aid of a steamboat, but I have found no evidence for this assertion. I do know that by the outbreak of the Civil War, John BOYLE's work on the river as a steamboatman had ended. Second P.S. Iron Furnaces were given names (such as "Amanda", "Buffalo" and "New Hampshire") so, naming sawmills is not too surprising.

Dear Katheryn Maddox Haddad and the Balance of the Lewis County, Kentucky Mailing List, Zorobable MADDUX is included in the early Deed Books of Lewis County, Kentucky. I have just returned from a research trip to Lewis and Greenup Counties. While researching in the Lewis County Courthouse on Wednesday afternoon, I was startled by the announcement that there was to be an early closing that day, at 1:00 P.M. I had only a few minutes to frantically write what I could, regarding land records of Henry MCKEE of the community of Quincy. It was in that desparately short time that I cast my gaze upon the name of Zorobable MADDUX, at the head of the "M's" in the Deed Index. I was literally being hastened out of the County Clerk's office, so I did not have time to record the information. I am sorry that I did not run across the name earlier, but I did want to let you know that Zorobable MADDUX is indeed there. Sincerely, Randal W. Cooper Lorain, Ohio Researching Henry MCKEE, who lived in Quincy, Lewis County, Kentucky from before 1850 until after 1903. I would like to find his date of death. His wife was Susannah/Susan Ann HACKWORTH. Henry MCKEE was born in Virginia.

Has anyone researched Zorobable Maddux who was in Mason/Lewis/Fleming County in the late 1700s to about 1820? Katheryn Maddox Haddad

Paula Driver Smith says I posted the will of George Boone,Jr, nor George Sr ,the grandfather. Could well be. My own slight tie is to James Boone,another brother's,wife. Daniel 's dad,and brother,were named Squire. I've read you went thru a lane in a Boone farm in se Berks,Pa to reach Abe's Lincoln's. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Squire Boone had left,abour 1748,stopping near New Market,Va a season,then going to the Yadkin in NC. Andrew Sodowski [Sandusky]'s mother died on Patterson Creek,in Wv,but the French War caused him to retreat sw of New Market,Va also. BOONE, GEORGE, Exeter. November 18, 1753. December 24, 1753.To son, William, all that part of my land lying on south side of Tulpehocken Road and appertaining to the old plantation in Exeter; also 1/2 of the mills. To son, Hezekiah, all that part of old plantation lying on north side of said road, the other 1/2 of mills.To son Josiah, the sawmill in Robeson Township and lands belonging. To son Jeremiah, plantation called "Andrew Saduskies" in Amity Township.To 3 daus., viz., Mary, Deborah and Dina £50 each.To my grandchildren, George and Jane HUGHES, children of dear dau. Hannah, £25 each when of age.Provides for wife [not named]. Exr. sons, William, Josiah, Jeremiah and Hezekiah Wit: Joseph BOONE, John HUGHES, Edward DRURY, Edward HUGHES.

We dined on “steak and whiskey” An Overview of the Shane Manuscripts by Trevia Wooster Beverly,1 August 1997 At the end of the American Revolution, the “West” was defined as the land between the Appalachian Mountains and the Mississippi River. By 1828, however, westward expansion had reached the Mississippi River and, in the Missouri region, had pushed the frontier far beyond. Underlying the history of this expansion are the stories of thousands of pioneer families, many of whose lives can now only be glimpsed through the written record. If you are researching individuals or families who were part of the westward expansion during the years from about 1780 to 1860, you will find two special collections, the Draper Manuscripts and the Shane Manuscripts, both available at Clayton Library, to be of particular value in this area. Our primary focus here will be on the Shane Manuscripts. “We dined on steak and whiskey.” This quote, from a diary found in the Shane Manuscripts, describes a favorite meal of one pioneer. Later, in an entry for 1825, we learn of another meal consisting of turkey, oysters, potatoes, turnips, beef, and Parmesan cheese. Although hardly the stuff of which history is made, such details are the life blood and valued treasure of the family historian. And thanks to the near obsessive drive of John Dabney Shane—for whom the Shane Manuscripts are named—much of this kind of material has been preserved. Shane, born in Cincinnati, Ohio in 1812 to Henry and Nancy (Williams) Shane,2 was educated at college and seminary in Virginia and returned to Ohio and Kentucky as a Presbyterian minister. Licensed by the Cincinnati Presbytery on May 31, 1842, he was shortly thereafter ordained by the West Lexington Presbytery and performed his pastoral duties at North Middleton, Kentucky until 1855. Following two years of service with several other churches in that region, he returned to Cincinnati in 1857, where he continued to work as the occasion presented itself within the bounds of the Cincinnati Presbytery. From his earliest years, he had a passion for collecting and hoarding everything that had any bearing upon the history of the Presbyterian Church in the Ohio River Valley. Possessing a remarkable zeal for his project, Rev. Shane declined pastoral office and set aside any intentions he may have had concerning the establishment of a family so that he could roam the land in his quest. He did, however, preach to many congregations as he visited among the people. He was to dedicate more than twenty years to historical research, using the oral history technique similar to his contemporary, Lyman Copeland Draper. Shane purposefully sought out those of age and experience to interview, writing down their reminiscences. He copied from family, church, and government records and clipped from newspapers and magazines. While Draper had a deep interest in the military (personal papers in his original collection are rare), Shane was just as interested in the domestic, business, educational, religious, and literary aspects of the time. His inquiries concerning old barrels, trunks, and chests—which he carefully searched—brought him many family letters, records, and other items. Shane was a frail man, with a very small and close handwriting, and no doubt his extensive traveling, sometimes under less than favorable circumstances, resulted in many periods of ill health. He died of what was then called “inflammation of the lungs.” As evidenced by his name always appearing in annual reports, Rev. Shane was apparently held in high esteem as a faithful minister and “a man of God.” Yet, only a small notice of his death appeared in the Cincinnati Commercial of February 8, 1864: “On Sabbath evening, February 7, at 9 o’clock, Rev. J. Dabney Shane, aged 52 years. Funeral services at the residence of his sister Mrs. A. J. Mulford, 359 John Street, between Clark and Chestnut, Tuesday afternoon, at 2 o’clock.” As genealogists hone their research techniques and become familiar with library resources, they will eventually discover the “special collections” and the wealth of information that can be found in them. The Shane Manuscripts is one such hidden treasure. We are extremely fortunate to have, at Clayton Library, both the 32 reels of microfilm of these papers and the accompanying Genealogical Guide.3 Shane was quite the collector. No matter how insignificant, items that came into his hands were treasured and carefully attended to. And he would not part with any of them! As a result, the Shane Manuscripts are a fascinating source of genealogical information. After seeing Shane’s collection, the Rev. Joseph M. Wilson made the following comment: “They [the papers in the collection] were on the upper floor of Moore, Wilstach & Co.’s large building on Fourth Street [Cincinnati], and an interesting place it was; the rooms, three in number, were shelved all around from floor to ceiling, divided and subdivided by partitions, pamphlets arranged by subjects and then by years, newspaper clippings carefully rolled up with a memorandum to each stating the name and date of paper and place of publication, magazines, reviews, and periodicals of all kinds having any reference to Presbyterianism, especially in the West; scrapbooks in which were collected what are known as ‘broadsides,’ being circulars, prospectuses, &c., printed on one side only. Being attracted by piles of papers and pamphlets in the middle of the floor, they, he said, were his unarranged material.” Those familiar with the more famous Draper Manuscripts,4 and who recognize the name of Shane within them, may be surprised to find that not all of Shane’s material is contained within that collection. In fact, fully half of Shane’s material found its way into the possession of the Presbyterian Historical Society,5 collected and placed there by Philidelphian Samuel Agnew, Esquire. And it is this portion of Shane’s original collection that one will find on the 32 reels of microfilm owned by Clayton Library. After Shane’s death, his collection was sold at auction for about $3,000 total for books, notes, and manuscripts. Lyman Draper purchased most of the manuscript portion at a cost of approximately $300, and a portion of that was resold to the Presbyterian Historical Society for $30. Draper began in early manhood to gather material on all phases of pioneer history in the middle West, specializing in personal sketches of Boone, Clark, Kenton, and other well-known Western men. In 1853 he became associated with the State Historical Society of Wisconsin and thus acquired part of Shane’s collection. In a letter that Draper wrote from Madison, Wisconsin on February 5, 1865, he credits his purchase of the Shane papers for the increase in his own collection. “I secured in Sept. at Cincinnati - that of the late Rev. John D. Shane, who was some 30 years collecting - has a good deal new Boone material obtained from old Kentucky pioneers whom I did not happen to come across. -- As large as my MS. collection was when you [John A. Remsen, Draper’s kinsman] saw it in 1852, I think I have quite doubled it since.” In 1865, Draper, in the Society’s 11th Annual Report, referred to Shane as “a singularly industrious collector of matters pertaining to Western history.” Hall, in the preface to his Genealogical Guide, points out that the documents on the 32 reels of film are mostly handwritten and sometimes illegible. Many of the church subscribers names appear as original signatures and are very difficult to read. There is an index in the Guide; however, this is an index only to the Guide itself, not to the collection. This should not deter the serious researcher, however, as the Guide certainly helps. In fact, it makes for interesting and informative reading on its own! It is desirable—perhaps imperative—that both the Shane Manuscripts and the Draper Manuscripts be used together for any research project involving the scope of either. Most, but not all, of the interviews Rev. Shane had with old pioneers are included in the Draper Manuscripts, while the Philadelphia collection consists mostly of old letters, records, and other materials that were given to him—plus a few interviews. Shane’s collection includes numerous documents with references to individual families throughout the then-West, including family papers, church minutes and membership lists, and newspaper abstracts (1794-1849) containing obituaries and other notices concerning prominent Kentucky and Tennessee pioneers. It is poignant to read the letter of a boy away at boarding school who wrote in 1826, “I hope, dear mother, when I come home[,] you won’t make me come back to this place.” Or those of 1812 between wife Judith and “My Dear Dr. [William H.] Richardson,” who was away in the Army; Surgeon, 1st Regt., Payne’s Brigade, K.V.M., under General Harrison. Among the Shane Manuscripts, one will find a memorial sermon given by the Rev. Robert Marshall on the occasion of the 90th anniversary of the Bethel Church, Fayette County, which had been organized in 1789. The Rev. Marshall noted that “there is no section of the Presbyterian Church on the American continent whose history has been more interesting or more eventful than that was planned in Kentucky by the early pioneers. Their elevated and indomitable spirit, their love of liberty, both civil and religious, is traced back through Pennsylvania and the Valley of Virginia, across the broad ocean to the North of Ireland and to the heath clad hills of Scotland, where the heroic few stood up against fearful odds and maintained with unflinching courage Christ’s Crown and Covenant.” While his message also included a word to the unconverted, it was a fitting sermon of encouragement to the early Presbyterians. The sermons and other related materials provide the researcher with not only historical perspective but many names, relationships, and personal data. This is a fertile field of research for those who had ancestors in this area. Those portions of Shane’s collection that are part of the Draper Manuscripts were abstracted in the section called “Kentucky Papers” (volumes 11-19 of series CC). The abstracts appear on pages 470-539 of the Calendar of The Kentucky Papers of the Draper Collection of Manuscripts.6 Items that remained in “the Shane Collection” include births, marriages, and deaths of a number of families, giving much-sought-after genealogical information. In the papers, for instance, those of Robert Marshall of Georgetown, Scott County, Kentucky (1790-1808), one will find a list of 1810 scholars. And in the papers of Col. Robert Patterson, one will find a hand drawn map, undated, of Bourbon County, Kentucky, as well as land entries and surveys of Evan Shelby of Fincastle County, Virginia, 1775-1783. Examples of papers containing excellent genealogical accounts include those of the Cameron family of Scotland, Ireland, and America and the papers of Andrew Steele, who came from Ireland to Kentucky with two children, Robin and William. The latter set of papers is sprinkled with letters, petitions, and lists, several of which make mention of the Elkhorn area and to the Elkhorn Church. Those with an interest in this area now have valuable material to supplement that contained in the well-known work by Ermina Jett Darnell, Forks of Elkhorn Church With Genealogies of Early Members.7 Another example of items in the Shane Collection is the journal and marriage register (about 30 pages) kept by the Rev. Mr. Joseph P. Howe, minister in South Carolina and Clark County, Kentucky, from October 14, 1798, to April 7, 1816. And what a delight to find that, from the Library Company of Philadelphia, Rev. Shane saved the account book kept by John Todd, Jr., librarian, 1784-1785. A young lawyer, Todd died of yellow fever in 1793. His widow, Dolly, was to later marry James Madison, who became President of the United States. Dealing mostly with financial concerns, Todd’s account book lists the names of those owing fines and includes a list of purchases: “1/2 gallon Madeira, 1 bushel oysters, 4 Loafs of bread, Limes,” etc. While neither Shane nor Draper could have foreseen the great interest of genealogists yet to come, together these two pioneers in oral history have given us treasures of cultural history. From the Shane Manuscripts we find the price of Madeira wine was $2.00 a gallon in Paducah, Kentucky; butter was 18 cents a pound in Paris, Kentucky; and a slave, described as “a fine cook and a good boy,” was priced at $1500. Christians, who on occasion tipped a glass or two, are recorded for censure. In one portion of the collection are found the names of Agnes Glaze, Osburn Tucker and wife, Nat’l Collins and wife, Walter Tucker and wife, and some 35 others who had been removed from the church roll. Researchers going through the Shane Manuscripts will find details of daily life and customs that really put “meat on the bones” of their ancestors. The material, like a good book, is hard to put down! Considering the sheer magnitude of Shane’s collection, we can only imagine the awe with which Draper, himself a pioneer in oral history, must have approached the possibility of acquiring it. Shane’s keen interest in the entire Ohio River Valley has left us not only a valuable history of frontier Presbyterianism but a cultural history of the first American West. Get out that map, and if your family was ever in the area where the Rev. Shane traveled, be sure to access his important collection. NOTES: A charter member of the Clayton Library Friends, Trevia Beverly is a professional genealogist who conducts genealogy classes and publishes The Tejas Gazette under her firm, Tejas Publications & Research. Otto A. Rothert, “Shane, The Western Collector,” The Filson Club Quarterly 4:1:1930. William K. Hall, The Shane Manuscript Collection, A Genealogical Guide to the Kentucky and Ohio Papers (Galveston, Texas: The Frontier Press, 1990). GEN 972 H181 USA. See Josephine L. Harper, Guide to the Draper Manuscripts (Madison, Wisconsin: State Historical Society of Wisconsin, 1983). GEN 973 H294 USA. Address of the Presbyterian Historical Society is 425 Lombard Street, Philadelphia, PA 19147. Telephone (215) 627-1852. Madison Wisconsin: State Historical Society of Wisconsin, 1925. GEN 976.9 S797 KY. Louisville, Kentucky: Standard Printing Co., [c1946]. GEN 976.9 D223 KY. END

Dear Members of the Greenup County AND Lewis County, Kentucky Mailing Lists, This question deals with both Greenup County and Lewis County, so I am posting the query to both Mailing Lists at once. Thank in advance for any help on the following puzzle: Can a car be driven from the village of Lynn in Greenup County, Kentucky to the village of Quincy on the Ohio River in Lewis County, Kentucky? By studying a detailed map of these counties, I think that the road follows White Oak Creek, then Briery Creek, into the community of Quincy. BUT, perhaps the road follows Brushy Fork. My third-great grandfather William COOPER was once a resident of Liberty in the 1840's and then lived in Quincy, in the 1850's and 1870's. I have found in Court Order Book "H" of Greenup County, Kentucky that in February of 1847, a road was ordered to be planned and built from the Lewis County line at the head of Briery Creek to the village of Liberty in Greenup County, by way of the head of Brushy Fork. The four men who were ordered by Greenup County Court in February of 1847 to "view and mark out" the road were Moses F. DUPUY, James OSBURN/OSBORN, Edward STEVENSON and John SLOAN. Anyone researching these noteworthy men? I am hoping to hear from someone before I make my next research visit to Greenup and Lewis Counties. I would like to see this road firsthand, by driving from Lynn to Quincy, or vice versa. Or, I might have to cover the distance by shank's mare. Thank you! Sincerely, Randy Cooper Descendant of DOUGLASes, BARNEYs and COOPERs who Lived in Greenup County, Kentucky GOAL: To find the parents and birthplace of my third-great grandfather William COOPER, who married Martha Ann BARNEY in Liberty, Greenup County, Kentucky, May 6, 1846; and was born in Massachusetts or Connecticut between 1817 and 1825, most likely in 1821 or 1822. William COOPER died November 23, 1903, in Jackson County, West Virginia.

HELLO ALL, Once again I am requesting help! Is there someone who could give me a breakdown of all the Hardy's in Lewis County in the 1900 census. My ancestor Jane M. Gray born abt. 1852, married John Hardy in 1873 in Boyd Co, KY. They relocated to Lewis County and had at least four children and two (I think) by a previous marriage of John's. In the 1880 census they are in Elk Fork Pct. with children: Will age 14, Jos. age 11 (these are the two by John's previous marriage), Robert 5, Sarah 2, Charles 6 mos. In the Civil War pension papers, John Hardy died in 1883 and the following child is listed: Anie G. born Feb. 28, 1882. I think Robert may also be Franklin because these pension papers list a Franklin born Jan. 23, 1876. In the 1900 census possibly some of these children are still living in Lewis County. Or does anyone have the marriage records for this time frame and could tell me if they married and their spouses! Thanks for any help. Linda

Dear Derald, I have cried tears of joy for you; as you found another link .. I know you have been looking for a long time .. Thank You for sharing with us .. it gives us all hope! Derre ****************************************************888 I have looked for years for a link to tie my MORGAN family together. I > found a part of it recently: > > Mary MORGAN found in Mason Cnty, KY in 1850 and 1860 now found in Gallia > Cnty, OH in 1880 still missing in 1870. > In 1880 she is living with her son Jacob Morgan and daughter Lavina Morgan. > Now we have it Mary is Jacob's mother BUT WHO IS MARY'S HUSBAND AND JACOB'S > FATHER? > > Messge Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.kentucky.counties.lewis&o=1&maxrows=25&dir=next > >

Hi: I have looked for years for a link to tie my MORGAN family together. I found a part of it recently: Mary MORGAN found in Mason Cnty, KY in 1850 and 1860 now found in Gallia Cnty, OH in 1880 still missing in 1870. In 1880 she is living with her son Jacob Morgan and daughter Lavina Morgan. Now we have it Mary is Jacob's mother BUT WHO IS MARY'S HUSBAND AND JACOB'S FATHER? Andrew MORGAN is at Jacob MORGAN's home in Boyd Cnty, KY to witness the marriage of Nathan MORGAN. I find on the web a death notice for Andrew MORGAN in Ironton, OH. IS THIS THE ANDREW MORGAN I AM SEEKING? Cassie MORGAN is living with Mary MORGAN in Mason Cnty, KY in 1850 and 1860. A Cassy MORGAN married a Thomas LONG in Gallia Cnty, OH in 1870. Is this Cassy the Cassie MORGAN a daughter of Mary MORGAN? This family migrated right along the river between Gallipolis, OH and Cario, IL and is found in many of the KY, OH and WV counties along the river. If you have MORGAN/LONG/SARTAIN/CASEBOLT/WELLS/BENNET/WILLIAMS ties we need to talk. Derald Morgan