Hi Rose, What I found was that George All had a daughter, Winiford Minerva- MINVERVA "Winnifred" SIZEMORE3BEGLEY (George All Sizemore2); born probably in Virginia ca. 1772; died probably in Perry County, (now Leslie County) KY 20 Sep. 1855; married William Begley, son of Thomas Begley. Although I've only seen two ECA's filed by Winnie's descendants, Kentucky history articles cover this family very well. The 1820 census may have five grandchildren under age 10 as none of those children are known to be Winnie's. This is the onlly sizemore/begley marriage I have in my database. John in Las Vegas On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 7:29 PM, RMW <ancestorhunt@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Hi John, do you have any proof that Henry (old Henry married a Sizemore). > I > tried to prove that trhere was Maimie Sizemore, dtr of George All > Sizemore, > years ago, and ended up not proving it and locating a different wife. I > exchanged msgs with Sizemore researchers, and they also did not have a > Sizemore married to a Begley. > > I know that many authors have written this, and copied each other. But, > not > one had any proof. I hope you have something. > > Rosie in California > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RLTJPS@aol.com> > To: <njadams@cinci.rr.com>; <cgreaux@cisco.com>; <KYLESLIE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:58 AM > Subject: Re: [KYLESLIE] MYSTERY - HIRAM BEGLEY 1826 > > > > > > Happy New Year! I finally had the time to do a search in all my > databases > > of > > BEGLEY. > > > > *Thomas Begley, born in the 1730's, lived In PA, VA, NC & in Knox Co, KY > > His children: > >> I. Henry /Old Henry / Begley 1756 VA md (Daughter) Sizemore, a d/o > > George All Sizemore 1755 VA & Agnes / Aggie / Cornett / Shepherd. > >> II. William Begley 1779 TN-1852 md Winnie Sizemore , also a d/o George > > All Sizemore 1755 > >> > >> III. John Begley 1790 md 1st, in 1816, Rebecca Stewart, d/o John > Stewart > > Sr. & Mary Arthur > > > > There are no Hiram Begley born as descent in 1824 from either Old HENRY > > or > > his brother WILLIAM. > > > > What is unknown by myself, I do not have a complete database on JOHN > > 1790, > > nor do I know of any genealogist that may have this research. It is > > possible > > the Hiram 1924 might be found as a descent that was in the Mexican War > > and > > lived in Covelo, Mendocino County, CA. > > > > My inclination is that DNA tests may be the only possible source for > > FOOTPRINTS that may lead to a Hiram 1824 birth in KY. If Not, then he may > > not be a > > descent down from Thomas Begley, born in the 1730's. > > > >> > > > > > > > > JOHN in CA > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/29/2008 6:10:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > njadams@cinci.rr.com writes: > > > > Hi, > > I took another look at the 1850 census and it appears that Polly > > Anne/Mary > > Anne Norris had two brothers who also went to Ca. They were living > right > > next > > to Hiram and Polly. > > > > 1850 California - El Dorado- South Fork of the American River > > #4/4 > > Hiram Begley, 27, miner, Ky > > Polly Ann, 22, Mo. > > > > #5/5 > > Ann Moore, 30, Oh > > Elizabeth, 07, Mo. > > James Humphrey, 04, Mo > > Wm. Norris, 19, miner, MO<<<<<<<<<<< > > Elisha Ward, 19, Miner, Oh > > Jonathan Norris, 22, miner, Mo.<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > There were a couple of Begleys in Ky. in 1850 that could have been > > Hiram's > > father. I will look more as I get time. I'm trying to get the house in > > order > > for showing to a real estate salesperson next week. > > > > Norma > > At 05:37 PM 12/28/2008 -0800, Cynthia Greaux (cgreaux) wrote: > > > > This is what I have been able to pull together from my grandfathers hand > > written notes and searching the internet: > > > > Hiram Begley, born in 1824, was a farmer in Kentucky. He came to > > California > > on a wagon train in 1850 or 1852 to mine gold in Union Town (about 3 > > miles > > from Colma, California). In 1850 he married to Mary Anne Norris (born > > 1829). > > They had three children: Granville, Johnathan, and Sarah. In the 1860's, > > Granville and Johnathan, left Union Town and went to Covelo. The two > > brothers > > married two sisters, Irene and Marcella, making double cousins of all of > > their > > children. > > > > Johnathan Begley I and Marcella Rouse had a son by the name of Walter. > > Marcella died when Walter was 2 and John died when Walter was 10. Walter > > grew to > > be a talented musician and a very good farmer. He was known for his good > > sense > > of humor. Those that knew him described him as an honest, upright man > who > > always paid his debts. > > > > On March 17, 1912, Walter Begley married Artie Amelia Brush. They had > > five > > children, Lawrence, Johnny (John Seymour Begley II), Edna, Phillip, and > > Eugene. Walter Begley died in February 1978. > > > > John Seymour Begley II was my grandfather. > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > From: Cynthia Greaux (cgreaux) > > Subject: RE: [KYLESLIE] MYSTERY - HIRAM BEGLEY 1826 > > > > ____________________________________ > > At 05:05 PM 12/28/2008 -0800, Cynthia Greaux (cgreaux) wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > My maiden name is Cynthia Ann Begley. I am researching my family history > > and > > found some postings from back in August 2006. My grandfather is John > > Seymour > > Begley of Covelo, California. Hiram Begley 1824 KY and Mary Anne Norris > > are > > my grandfathers great-grandparents. That is as far back as he had > > documented. If you have any information on them or their family history, > I > > would be > > very interested. > > > > Thanks, > > Cynthia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KYLESLIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYLESLIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Thanks John, it's about what I have. Rosie in California. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Barnes" <jaybe44ster@gmail.com> To: <kyleslie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [KYLESLIE] MYSTERY - HIRAM BEGLEY 1826 > Hi Rose, > What I found was that George All had a daughter, Winiford Minerva- > MINVERVA "Winnifred" SIZEMORE3BEGLEY (George All Sizemore2); born probably > in Virginia ca. 1772; died probably in Perry County, (now Leslie County) > KY > 20 Sep. 1855; married William Begley, son of Thomas Begley. Although I've > only seen two ECA's filed by Winnie's descendants, Kentucky history > articles > cover this family very well. The 1820 census may have five grandchildren > under age 10 as none of those children are known to be Winnie's. > This is the onlly sizemore/begley marriage I have in my database. > John in Las Vegas > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 7:29 PM, RMW <ancestorhunt@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Hi John, do you have any proof that Henry (old Henry married a Sizemore). >> I >> tried to prove that trhere was Maimie Sizemore, dtr of George All >> Sizemore, >> years ago, and ended up not proving it and locating a different wife. I >> exchanged msgs with Sizemore researchers, and they also did not have a >> Sizemore married to a Begley. >> >> I know that many authors have written this, and copied each other. But, >> not >> one had any proof. I hope you have something. >> >> Rosie in California >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <RLTJPS@aol.com> >> To: <njadams@cinci.rr.com>; <cgreaux@cisco.com>; <KYLESLIE@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [KYLESLIE] MYSTERY - HIRAM BEGLEY 1826 >> >> >> > >> > Happy New Year! I finally had the time to do a search in all my >> databases >> > of >> > BEGLEY. >> > >> > *Thomas Begley, born in the 1730's, lived In PA, VA, NC & in Knox Co, >> > KY >> > His children: >> >> I. Henry /Old Henry / Begley 1756 VA md (Daughter) Sizemore, a d/o >> > George All Sizemore 1755 VA & Agnes / Aggie / Cornett / Shepherd. >> >> II. William Begley 1779 TN-1852 md Winnie Sizemore , also a d/o >> >> George >> > All Sizemore 1755 >> >> >> >> III. John Begley 1790 md 1st, in 1816, Rebecca Stewart, d/o John >> Stewart >> > Sr. & Mary Arthur >> > >> > There are no Hiram Begley born as descent in 1824 from either Old >> > HENRY >> > or >> > his brother WILLIAM. >> > >> > What is unknown by myself, I do not have a complete database on JOHN >> > 1790, >> > nor do I know of any genealogist that may have this research. It is >> > possible >> > the Hiram 1924 might be found as a descent that was in the Mexican War >> > and >> > lived in Covelo, Mendocino County, CA. >> > >> > My inclination is that DNA tests may be the only possible source for >> > FOOTPRINTS that may lead to a Hiram 1824 birth in KY. If Not, then he >> > may >> > not be a >> > descent down from Thomas Begley, born in the 1730's. >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > JOHN in CA >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> > In a message dated 12/29/2008 6:10:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> > njadams@cinci.rr.com writes: >> > >> > Hi, >> > I took another look at the 1850 census and it appears that Polly >> > Anne/Mary >> > Anne Norris had two brothers who also went to Ca. They were living >> right >> > next >> > to Hiram and Polly. >> > >> > 1850 California - El Dorado- South Fork of the American River >> > #4/4 >> > Hiram Begley, 27, miner, Ky >> > Polly Ann, 22, Mo. >> > >> > #5/5 >> > Ann Moore, 30, Oh >> > Elizabeth, 07, Mo. >> > James Humphrey, 04, Mo >> > Wm. Norris, 19, miner, MO<<<<<<<<<<< >> > Elisha Ward, 19, Miner, Oh >> > Jonathan Norris, 22, miner, Mo.<<<<<<<<<<<< >> > >> > There were a couple of Begleys in Ky. in 1850 that could have been >> > Hiram's >> > father. I will look more as I get time. I'm trying to get the house >> > in >> > order >> > for showing to a real estate salesperson next week. >> > >> > Norma >> > At 05:37 PM 12/28/2008 -0800, Cynthia Greaux (cgreaux) wrote: >> > >> > This is what I have been able to pull together from my grandfathers >> > hand >> > written notes and searching the internet: >> > >> > Hiram Begley, born in 1824, was a farmer in Kentucky. He came to >> > California >> > on a wagon train in 1850 or 1852 to mine gold in Union Town (about 3 >> > miles >> > from Colma, California). In 1850 he married to Mary Anne Norris (born >> > 1829). >> > They had three children: Granville, Johnathan, and Sarah. In the >> > 1860's, >> > Granville and Johnathan, left Union Town and went to Covelo. The two >> > brothers >> > married two sisters, Irene and Marcella, making double cousins of all >> > of >> > their >> > children. >> > >> > Johnathan Begley I and Marcella Rouse had a son by the name of Walter. >> > Marcella died when Walter was 2 and John died when Walter was 10. >> > Walter >> > grew to >> > be a talented musician and a very good farmer. He was known for his >> > good >> > sense >> > of humor. Those that knew him described him as an honest, upright man >> who >> > always paid his debts. >> > >> > On March 17, 1912, Walter Begley married Artie Amelia Brush. They had >> > five >> > children, Lawrence, Johnny (John Seymour Begley II), Edna, Phillip, and >> > Eugene. Walter Begley died in February 1978. >> > >> > John Seymour Begley II was my grandfather. >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > From: Cynthia Greaux (cgreaux) >> > Subject: RE: [KYLESLIE] MYSTERY - HIRAM BEGLEY 1826 >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > At 05:05 PM 12/28/2008 -0800, Cynthia Greaux (cgreaux) wrote: >> > >> > Hello. >> > >> > My maiden name is Cynthia Ann Begley. I am researching my family >> > history >> > and >> > found some postings from back in August 2006. My grandfather is John >> > Seymour >> > Begley of Covelo, California. Hiram Begley 1824 KY and Mary Anne Norris >> > are >> > my grandfathers great-grandparents. That is as far back as he had >> > documented. If you have any information on them or their family >> > history, >> I >> > would be >> > very interested. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Cynthia >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making >> > headlines. 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