Pat, Jess Wilson is descended from a Paul (a twin) Pigg b 1785 VA married to an Elizabeth Davenport through their son Gabriel Pigg and their grandson George Harvey Pigg and their ggrandaughter Rebecca Pigg who married Pleasant C Wilson. Remember a Paul Pigg certified that Mrs 'Polly' Hines was a widow so she could marry Rev War Vet John Forbis on Feb 20, 1820 Clay Co KY ... it may very well be Paul Pigg b 1785 is a brother to Mary 'Polly' Pigg!!! Could you check/double-check your Pigg information. Thanks Pat for knowing so many people and being descended from some of them. We are going to be cousins yet, somehow. 'R.E.' -----Original Message----- From: Pat Saupe [mailto:psaupe@seidata.com] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 6:41 PM To: r.e. hinson Subject: Fw: do we know? I asked my sister about her Pigg records but she doesn't have anything on Mary Polly Pigg Hines either. Wonder if Jess Wilson would know - somebody mentioned him in one of your recent e-mails. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce Heiss To: Pat Saupe Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: do we know? I looked through my Pigg papers and a lot of what I have came from you. I have nothing for this Mary Polly. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Saupe To: joyce heiss Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 6:29 PM Subject: do we know? Do we know anything about a Mary Polly Pigg who was married to a Hines in Madison Co. KY and married #2, John Forbis 20 Feb 1820 Clay Co. KY? Paul Pigg certified that Polly was a widow at the time. I have probably asked you this before as it sounds familiar. Thanks, Pat

Roaten and Mary Ann Mary said that you had a Forbis in Randolph Co. NC. and he was in Rowan Co. NC. instead. I think that you Rev. John Forbis was b. in Va. and came to Randolph Co. NC this could be Rowan Co. NC. instead. Randolph Co. was made from Guilford Co. and Guilford was made from Rowan Co. NC. Do you know when he came NC. ? John would have been with in 30 miles from George E. Forbis and George owned about 28,000 acres in Rowan Co. Just trying to tie John in closer to the George E. Clan. Pat --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004

Hi again, Yes, there were a lot of PINGs in Pulaski county and also some other rather interesting surname too. I think there were a few PIGGs, but I'd have to recheck that. The one HINES/HINDS marriage that always makes me stop and do a double take is the one to the lady named Ohio Ham. I bet she was glad to change her last name! ;o) Kathy "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." wrote: > > Kathy, are you sure Nancy Hinds b abt 1816 married a Lewis 'Ping' ... maybe > his name was Lewis Pigg? Warrants a closer look-see I would say. Thanks > for sharing. 'R.E.' >

I noticed many people from Laurel Co KY buried in this cemetery in Grundy Co MO. -----Original Message----- From: I Do Genealogy [mailto:idogenealogy@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 6:07 PM To: roaten@prodigy.net Subject: Belitha Gentry cemetery info I presume you have seen this on-line source: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mogrundy/cemetery/peeryg.html GENTRY Belitha 31 Aug 1877 74y 5m 11d; husband of Martha (SANDLIN) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

'Polly' is a common nickname for Mary, as 'Sally' is a common nickname for Sarah, as 'Betsy' is a common nickname for Elizabeth , etc. I think there is a website that contains a list of the major 'nicknames' ... maybe you could do a search using <www.Google.com> as the search engine for the subject search 'nicknames'. 'R.E.' -----Original Message----- From: NEWSCAT@aol.com [mailto:NEWSCAT@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 2:59 AM To: KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] Mary aka Polly In a message dated 10/9/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KYLAUREL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: OK, *that* got my curiosity. Any clues as to who Mrs. Mary 'Polly' Hines/Hinds was originally married to? My Aunt "Polly" from Corbin was also really a Mary. Anybody got a clue where they got Polly as nickname for the Marys? Or is it something very simple that I've never learned? Donna ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

Charlotte, I can't seem to find the family Frances Black ties into. What Census year are you referring to in the 1st sentence? I do have a Norris Black married to Eliza Jane Cathers on Dec 29, 1851 Laurel Co KY ... a Sarah A. 'Sally' Black married John H. Casteel on Aug 07, 1837 Laurel Co KY ... I am showing a Mary Ann 'Polly' Black married to James Metcalf in Clay? Co KY abt 1816 (see James Black in 1827 Laurel Co KY Tax List), both James and 'Polly' lived out their lives in Laurel Co KY ... A Leander Black married Mary McHargue on April 13, 1854 Laurel Co KY ... also there was apparently a John Titus Black b abt 1825 of Laurel Co KY married to Martha Frances Mullins ... An Arnold 'Alexander' Black JR married Elizabeth Harris on Jan 07, 1841 Laurel Co KY ... Albert Redford Black married Cornelia V McCammon, daughter of William A. McCammon (a Baptist Preacher) and Rosanna Oxford who married March 13, 1834 Laurel Co KY and shortly moved to Livingston/Grundy Co MO as did many Laurel Co KY families abt 1837. Albert and Cornelia married Sept 05, 1867 Grundy Co MO ... many Black lived early 1800 in the Clay Co KY area and it was probably an area of Clay/Rockcastle Co's that became Laurel/Jackson Co was the home of many Black family names. If anyone reading this information can add information on these families it would be appreciated, and is much needed to be complete and accurate. Thanks for sharing. 'R.E.' -----Original Message----- From: ronnie son [mailto:dadamiro@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:34 AM To: roaten@prodigy.net Subject: Luther Black s/o Frances Black and ? hi RE! wanted to let u know that i found "a" Luther Black on the Pittsburg (Laurel Co.) KY census. HH 211 Frances Black b KY, age 63? W, (mother born KY, line thru father's birthplace). Jane listed as dtr, her age looks like 44 S Charles son age 26 S Thomas son age 23 S and Luther son age 19 b 1880 KY S--all 3 sons listed as miners. Jane's occupation isn't listed... also in this HH is boarder George Dunn age 34 S whose occup is clerk gen store... (not sure of anything except the clerk part). 2 houses away another miner in HH 209 John Black, 39 b KY as are his parents, wife Mary, age 37 b KY, married 7 yrs. dtrs Nellie age 6, Matha E. age 5 and son Andrew C. age 2, all born KY. can't find any info on Frances. her maiden name may be Evans, but there's nothing to prove this. i have searched for info on Luther and his brothers... no hits! looking forward to hearing what u think about this Frances etc... God bless, charlotte clark

Roaten and Mary Margret Adams has John Forbis last wife Mary Hinds as Mary Piggs. She has her parents as William and Unknown for the wife Pigs. William Piggs children Mary Piggs Elizabeth Piggs Paul Piggs Francis Piggs Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." <roaten@prodigy.net> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY > Kathy, are you sure Nancy Hinds b abt 1816 married a Lewis 'Ping' ... > maybe > his name was Lewis Pigg? Warrants a closer look-see I would say. Thanks > for sharing. 'R.E.' > > -----Original Message----- > From: ROATEN E HINSON, JR. [mailto:roaten@prodigy.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:13 PM > To: KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY > > > Kathy, could you confirm Stephen Hines/Hinds b abt 1791 married Sarah > Reece > on Oct 29, 1813 Wayne Co Kentucky? ... I may have a mistake, I am showing > Wayne Co INDIANA. Could you or anybody on this site please let me know if > they married in KY or IN? 'R.E.' > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathy Hines [mailto:khines1@qwest.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:50 AM > To: KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY > > > Hi R.E. and listers, > > Maxine gives good advice of always looking for Hine/Hind without the s > too. I see it more often *with* the 's,' but it's not terribly unusual > to see it left off as well. > > I can talk best about the HINDS line that R.E. mentions by starting with > my husband's direct line of Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines who married Jane > Waddle in Pulaski co., KY on November 14, 1849. From there I can work > my way back fairly well. I do have copies of some records for Pulaski > county, but I have never (personally) researched Wayne county yet. I > can add to what I know on the HINDS/HINES line by referring to a book I > have: "HINDS of Kentucky and Tennessee" by David B. Trimble. It was > published in 1994 and is a conglomeration of many researchers' work. As > always, it is advisable to verify the records named in the research. > > Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines m. Jane Waddle in Pulaski co., KY on November > 14, 1849. They had 11 known children, one of whom was Benjamin P. Hines > - my husband's great-grandfather. > > Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines was born on January 13, 1823 in Madison (or > Knox Co.), KY. I think I have a photo of his grave here somewhere, > which verifies his birthdate. But I have not proven he was born in > Madison (or Knox Co.), KY as yet. His parents were Stephen Hinds and > Sarah Reece. I have a marriage date for them of October 29, 1813. I > believe that they married in Wayne county, KY, but I do not have a copy > of that record as yet. > > From the HINDS book that I have: > Stephen HINDS was born about 1791 in Knox county, Tennessee, and moved > to Wayne county, Kentucky, in childhood. He served as a fifer in Capt. > Micah Taul's Infantry Company of the 7th Regiment of Kentucky militia > from August 23, 1812, to March 23, 1813; his children later received > bounty land for his service. On October 29, 1813, he married Sarah Reece > and then moved to Madison County, Kentucky. ON October 14, 1826, they > sold their 83 acres on Silver Creek to John Richardson and moved to > Pulaski County, Kentucky, where both died about 1844. > > References: Bounty Land Warrant #24421-8055, National Archives, > Washinton D.C. > Wayne county, KY marriages > Madison county, KY Deed Book R. pg 313 > census 1820 > Pulaski county, KY marriages > census 1830-1860 > records belonging to Charles A. Hines > records belonging to Larry R. Herrin > > This is what I have on the descendants of Stephen Hinds so far: > > Stephen Hinds b: 1791 in Knox Co., TN d: September 28, 1850 in Pulaski > Co. KY > +Sarah Reece m: October 29, 1813 in Wayne Co., KY? d: Abt. 1844 in > Pulaski Co. KY > Children: > [1] Cynthia Hinds b: Abt. 1814 in Madison Co., KY d: Abt. 1835 in > Pulaski Co. KY +Washington Reece Gragg m: January 09, 1829 in > Pulaski Co., KY > *2nd Husband of [1] Cynthia Hinds: +Washington Reece Gragg > b: Abt. 1805 in KY d: June 25, 1847 in Pulaski Co., KY > > [2] Nancy Hinds b: Abt. 1816 in Madison Co., KY d: Abt. 1840 in > Pulaski Co. KY > +Lewis Ping b: October 09, 1809 m: February 05, 1835 in Pulaski > Co. KY d: July 17, 1900 > > [3] Margaret Hinds b: Abt. 1818 > +William McKinney m: October 11, 1865 > > [4] daughter Hinds b: Abt. 1820 > > [5] Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines b: January 13, 1823 in Madison (or > Knox Co.), KY d: February 23, 1880 in Pulaski Co., KY Fact 1: 1850 > Census PCo. KY - School teacher (household 828) > +Jane Waddle b: October 11, 1830 in Pulaski Co., KY m: November > 14, 1849 in Pulaski Co., KY d: October 11, 1905 in Pulaski Co., KY > > [6] Joel Hinds b: Abt. 1826 d: January 16, 1860 in Pulaski Co. KY > +Nancy Jane Ashley m: February 03, 1851 > > [7] son Hinds b: Abt. 1828 > > [8] John R. Hinds b: Abt. 1832 in Pulaski Co. KY Burial: > Keeney Cemetery, KY > +Elizabeth Ann Waddle b: October 10, 1834 m: November 07, 1853 > in Pulaski Co., KY > > [9] Stephen Hinds b: May 18, 1834 > +Ohio Ham m: February 04, 1857 d: Abt. 1859 > > [10] James Hinds b: July 24, 1836 d: December 12, 1863 in Stanford, > KY > +Mariah Jane Gregory b: March 04, 1842 d: June 07, 1902 > > [11] Benjamin Hinds b: June 14, 1839 > > This is probably enough for one e-mail. ;o) > > Kathy Hines in MN > > "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." wrote: >> >> Well, my Henson line also appears to have come out of Randoph Co NC via >> Wayne Co KY. Kathy, the big question that a lot of people would like to >> know is the one you just asked. I don't know who Mrs. Mary 'Polly' >> Hines/Hinds was married to before she married Rev War Vet John Forbis of >> Laurel Co KY. A 'Paul Pigg' certified that 'Polly' was a widow so she >> was >> free to marry John. Paul Pigg should be a good lead to check out ... is > he >> her father/brother? After John Forbis died 1854, 'Polly' applied and >> was >> approved to receive a pension based on John's military service and she > lived >> out her life in Laurel Co KY. The only Hines/Hinds that I have in my >> data-base in Madison Co KY is a John Hines/Hinds married to Rebecca > Robinson >> on August 06, 1789 Madison Co KY. John and Rebecca had a daughter >> Margaret >> 'Peggy' Hines/Hinds who married Thomas Harris/Harrison (son of Sherrod) >> on >> August 09, 1811 Clay Co KY. I am showing a Stephen Hines/Hinds b abt >> 1792 >> married to a Sarah Reece. I also have a Samuel Hines/Hinds who showed up > in >> the 1805 Garrard Co KY Tax List. Also, Jackson Co KY came out of Laurel > Co >> KY and in Jackson Co KY there was an Eliza Hines/Hinds living there as of >> August 11, 1862. Please share any Hines/Hinds family information that >> may >> help determine who Mrs. 'Polly' Hines/Hinds was married to prior to her >> marriage to Rev War Vet John Forbis of Laurel Co KY. Thanks for sharing. >> 'R.E.' >> > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... 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It was just a standard thing for people to name a dau. Mary and call her Polly. Just as they did with Martha and call them Patsy. Elizabeth was called Lizzie, Betsy and Bettie. A lot of boys named John were called Jake. > [Original Message] > From: <NEWSCAT@aol.com> > To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/10/04 5:59:14 AM > Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] Mary aka Polly > > > In a message dated 10/9/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > KYLAUREL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > OK, *that* got my curiosity. Any clues as to who Mrs. Mary 'Polly' > Hines/Hinds was originally married to? > > > My Aunt "Polly" from Corbin was also really a Mary. Anybody got a clue where > they got Polly as nickname for the Marys? Or is it something very simple > that I've never learned? > > Donna > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith, Mosley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EBB.2ACE/2542 Message Board Post: Would like any info on these families who lived in the little town of Dorthea. William and Jemima Mosley and their daughter Sarah Jane Smith who was married to Isaac Judson Smith. There children were Don Ray, Gertie May, Jay Taft, and Roy Lee. Kathy Grant

In a message dated 10/9/04 12:01:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KYLAUREL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: OK, *that* got my curiosity. Any clues as to who Mrs. Mary 'Polly' Hines/Hinds was originally married to? My Aunt "Polly" from Corbin was also really a Mary. Anybody got a clue where they got Polly as nickname for the Marys? Or is it something very simple that I've never learned? Donna

Hi Roaten, I saw your George Henson made this list, but I didn't see any of my families. Household Hint: If you go to (www.tinyurl.com) and copy and paste a long address in, it automatically makes a tiny url so you don't get broken up/split addresses. Regards, Mary Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." <roaten@prodigy.net> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 12:45 PM Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] families who moved from Laurel Co KY to Livingston/Grundy Co MO abt 1837 > Hopefully this will get you to the website listing all of the names; > Maybe > you will have to copy and type out this address > exactly as shown ... > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.usa.states.m > issouri.counties.grundy/650 if it arrives broken without complete > underlining of the full address length. Good luck in finding your family > that moved from Laurel Co KY to Livingson/Grundy Co MO abt 1837. 'R.E.' > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > >

Kathy, are you sure Nancy Hinds b abt 1816 married a Lewis 'Ping' ... maybe his name was Lewis Pigg? Warrants a closer look-see I would say. Thanks for sharing. 'R.E.' -----Original Message----- From: ROATEN E HINSON, JR. [mailto:roaten@prodigy.net] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:13 PM To: KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY Kathy, could you confirm Stephen Hines/Hinds b abt 1791 married Sarah Reece on Oct 29, 1813 Wayne Co Kentucky? ... I may have a mistake, I am showing Wayne Co INDIANA. Could you or anybody on this site please let me know if they married in KY or IN? 'R.E.' -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Hines [mailto:khines1@qwest.net] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:50 AM To: KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY Hi R.E. and listers, Maxine gives good advice of always looking for Hine/Hind without the s too. I see it more often *with* the 's,' but it's not terribly unusual to see it left off as well. I can talk best about the HINDS line that R.E. mentions by starting with my husband's direct line of Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines who married Jane Waddle in Pulaski co., KY on November 14, 1849. From there I can work my way back fairly well. I do have copies of some records for Pulaski county, but I have never (personally) researched Wayne county yet. I can add to what I know on the HINDS/HINES line by referring to a book I have: "HINDS of Kentucky and Tennessee" by David B. Trimble. It was published in 1994 and is a conglomeration of many researchers' work. As always, it is advisable to verify the records named in the research. Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines m. Jane Waddle in Pulaski co., KY on November 14, 1849. They had 11 known children, one of whom was Benjamin P. Hines - my husband's great-grandfather. Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines was born on January 13, 1823 in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY. I think I have a photo of his grave here somewhere, which verifies his birthdate. But I have not proven he was born in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY as yet. His parents were Stephen Hinds and Sarah Reece. I have a marriage date for them of October 29, 1813. I believe that they married in Wayne county, KY, but I do not have a copy of that record as yet. From the HINDS book that I have: Stephen HINDS was born about 1791 in Knox county, Tennessee, and moved to Wayne county, Kentucky, in childhood. He served as a fifer in Capt. Micah Taul's Infantry Company of the 7th Regiment of Kentucky militia from August 23, 1812, to March 23, 1813; his children later received bounty land for his service. On October 29, 1813, he married Sarah Reece and then moved to Madison County, Kentucky. ON October 14, 1826, they sold their 83 acres on Silver Creek to John Richardson and moved to Pulaski County, Kentucky, where both died about 1844. References: Bounty Land Warrant #24421-8055, National Archives, Washinton D.C. Wayne county, KY marriages Madison county, KY Deed Book R. pg 313 census 1820 Pulaski county, KY marriages census 1830-1860 records belonging to Charles A. Hines records belonging to Larry R. Herrin This is what I have on the descendants of Stephen Hinds so far: Stephen Hinds b: 1791 in Knox Co., TN d: September 28, 1850 in Pulaski Co. KY +Sarah Reece m: October 29, 1813 in Wayne Co., KY? d: Abt. 1844 in Pulaski Co. KY Children: [1] Cynthia Hinds b: Abt. 1814 in Madison Co., KY d: Abt. 1835 in Pulaski Co. KY +Washington Reece Gragg m: January 09, 1829 in Pulaski Co., KY *2nd Husband of [1] Cynthia Hinds: +Washington Reece Gragg b: Abt. 1805 in KY d: June 25, 1847 in Pulaski Co., KY [2] Nancy Hinds b: Abt. 1816 in Madison Co., KY d: Abt. 1840 in Pulaski Co. KY +Lewis Ping b: October 09, 1809 m: February 05, 1835 in Pulaski Co. KY d: July 17, 1900 [3] Margaret Hinds b: Abt. 1818 +William McKinney m: October 11, 1865 [4] daughter Hinds b: Abt. 1820 [5] Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines b: January 13, 1823 in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY d: February 23, 1880 in Pulaski Co., KY Fact 1: 1850 Census PCo. KY - School teacher (household 828) +Jane Waddle b: October 11, 1830 in Pulaski Co., KY m: November 14, 1849 in Pulaski Co., KY d: October 11, 1905 in Pulaski Co., KY [6] Joel Hinds b: Abt. 1826 d: January 16, 1860 in Pulaski Co. KY +Nancy Jane Ashley m: February 03, 1851 [7] son Hinds b: Abt. 1828 [8] John R. Hinds b: Abt. 1832 in Pulaski Co. KY Burial: Keeney Cemetery, KY +Elizabeth Ann Waddle b: October 10, 1834 m: November 07, 1853 in Pulaski Co., KY [9] Stephen Hinds b: May 18, 1834 +Ohio Ham m: February 04, 1857 d: Abt. 1859 [10] James Hinds b: July 24, 1836 d: December 12, 1863 in Stanford, KY +Mariah Jane Gregory b: March 04, 1842 d: June 07, 1902 [11] Benjamin Hinds b: June 14, 1839 This is probably enough for one e-mail. ;o) Kathy Hines in MN "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." wrote: > > Well, my Henson line also appears to have come out of Randoph Co NC via > Wayne Co KY. Kathy, the big question that a lot of people would like to > know is the one you just asked. I don't know who Mrs. Mary 'Polly' > Hines/Hinds was married to before she married Rev War Vet John Forbis of > Laurel Co KY. A 'Paul Pigg' certified that 'Polly' was a widow so she was > free to marry John. Paul Pigg should be a good lead to check out ... is he > her father/brother? After John Forbis died 1854, 'Polly' applied and was > approved to receive a pension based on John's military service and she lived > out her life in Laurel Co KY. The only Hines/Hinds that I have in my > data-base in Madison Co KY is a John Hines/Hinds married to Rebecca Robinson > on August 06, 1789 Madison Co KY. John and Rebecca had a daughter Margaret > 'Peggy' Hines/Hinds who married Thomas Harris/Harrison (son of Sherrod) on > August 09, 1811 Clay Co KY. I am showing a Stephen Hines/Hinds b abt 1792 > married to a Sarah Reece. I also have a Samuel Hines/Hinds who showed up in > the 1805 Garrard Co KY Tax List. Also, Jackson Co KY came out of Laurel Co > KY and in Jackson Co KY there was an Eliza Hines/Hinds living there as of > August 11, 1862. Please share any Hines/Hinds family information that may > help determine who Mrs. 'Polly' Hines/Hinds was married to prior to her > marriage to Rev War Vet John Forbis of Laurel Co KY. Thanks for sharing. > 'R.E.' > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

Kathy, could you confirm Stephen Hines/Hinds b abt 1791 married Sarah Reece on Oct 29, 1813 Wayne Co Kentucky? ... I may have a mistake, I am showing Wayne Co INDIANA. Could you or anybody on this site please let me know if they married in KY or IN? 'R.E.' -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Hines [mailto:khines1@qwest.net] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:50 AM To: KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY Hi R.E. and listers, Maxine gives good advice of always looking for Hine/Hind without the s too. I see it more often *with* the 's,' but it's not terribly unusual to see it left off as well. I can talk best about the HINDS line that R.E. mentions by starting with my husband's direct line of Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines who married Jane Waddle in Pulaski co., KY on November 14, 1849. From there I can work my way back fairly well. I do have copies of some records for Pulaski county, but I have never (personally) researched Wayne county yet. I can add to what I know on the HINDS/HINES line by referring to a book I have: "HINDS of Kentucky and Tennessee" by David B. Trimble. It was published in 1994 and is a conglomeration of many researchers' work. As always, it is advisable to verify the records named in the research. Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines m. Jane Waddle in Pulaski co., KY on November 14, 1849. They had 11 known children, one of whom was Benjamin P. Hines - my husband's great-grandfather. Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines was born on January 13, 1823 in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY. I think I have a photo of his grave here somewhere, which verifies his birthdate. But I have not proven he was born in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY as yet. His parents were Stephen Hinds and Sarah Reece. I have a marriage date for them of October 29, 1813. I believe that they married in Wayne county, KY, but I do not have a copy of that record as yet. From the HINDS book that I have: Stephen HINDS was born about 1791 in Knox county, Tennessee, and moved to Wayne county, Kentucky, in childhood. He served as a fifer in Capt. Micah Taul's Infantry Company of the 7th Regiment of Kentucky militia from August 23, 1812, to March 23, 1813; his children later received bounty land for his service. On October 29, 1813, he married Sarah Reece and then moved to Madison County, Kentucky. ON October 14, 1826, they sold their 83 acres on Silver Creek to John Richardson and moved to Pulaski County, Kentucky, where both died about 1844. References: Bounty Land Warrant #24421-8055, National Archives, Washinton D.C. Wayne county, KY marriages Madison county, KY Deed Book R. pg 313 census 1820 Pulaski county, KY marriages census 1830-1860 records belonging to Charles A. Hines records belonging to Larry R. Herrin This is what I have on the descendants of Stephen Hinds so far: Stephen Hinds b: 1791 in Knox Co., TN d: September 28, 1850 in Pulaski Co. KY +Sarah Reece m: October 29, 1813 in Wayne Co., KY? d: Abt. 1844 in Pulaski Co. KY Children: [1] Cynthia Hinds b: Abt. 1814 in Madison Co., KY d: Abt. 1835 in Pulaski Co. KY +Washington Reece Gragg m: January 09, 1829 in Pulaski Co., KY *2nd Husband of [1] Cynthia Hinds: +Washington Reece Gragg b: Abt. 1805 in KY d: June 25, 1847 in Pulaski Co., KY [2] Nancy Hinds b: Abt. 1816 in Madison Co., KY d: Abt. 1840 in Pulaski Co. KY +Lewis Ping b: October 09, 1809 m: February 05, 1835 in Pulaski Co. KY d: July 17, 1900 [3] Margaret Hinds b: Abt. 1818 +William McKinney m: October 11, 1865 [4] daughter Hinds b: Abt. 1820 [5] Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines b: January 13, 1823 in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY d: February 23, 1880 in Pulaski Co., KY Fact 1: 1850 Census PCo. KY - School teacher (household 828) +Jane Waddle b: October 11, 1830 in Pulaski Co., KY m: November 14, 1849 in Pulaski Co., KY d: October 11, 1905 in Pulaski Co., KY [6] Joel Hinds b: Abt. 1826 d: January 16, 1860 in Pulaski Co. KY +Nancy Jane Ashley m: February 03, 1851 [7] son Hinds b: Abt. 1828 [8] John R. Hinds b: Abt. 1832 in Pulaski Co. KY Burial: Keeney Cemetery, KY +Elizabeth Ann Waddle b: October 10, 1834 m: November 07, 1853 in Pulaski Co., KY [9] Stephen Hinds b: May 18, 1834 +Ohio Ham m: February 04, 1857 d: Abt. 1859 [10] James Hinds b: July 24, 1836 d: December 12, 1863 in Stanford, KY +Mariah Jane Gregory b: March 04, 1842 d: June 07, 1902 [11] Benjamin Hinds b: June 14, 1839 This is probably enough for one e-mail. ;o) Kathy Hines in MN "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." wrote: > > Well, my Henson line also appears to have come out of Randoph Co NC via > Wayne Co KY. Kathy, the big question that a lot of people would like to > know is the one you just asked. I don't know who Mrs. Mary 'Polly' > Hines/Hinds was married to before she married Rev War Vet John Forbis of > Laurel Co KY. A 'Paul Pigg' certified that 'Polly' was a widow so she was > free to marry John. Paul Pigg should be a good lead to check out ... is he > her father/brother? After John Forbis died 1854, 'Polly' applied and was > approved to receive a pension based on John's military service and she lived > out her life in Laurel Co KY. The only Hines/Hinds that I have in my > data-base in Madison Co KY is a John Hines/Hinds married to Rebecca Robinson > on August 06, 1789 Madison Co KY. John and Rebecca had a daughter Margaret > 'Peggy' Hines/Hinds who married Thomas Harris/Harrison (son of Sherrod) on > August 09, 1811 Clay Co KY. I am showing a Stephen Hines/Hinds b abt 1792 > married to a Sarah Reece. I also have a Samuel Hines/Hinds who showed up in > the 1805 Garrard Co KY Tax List. Also, Jackson Co KY came out of Laurel Co > KY and in Jackson Co KY there was an Eliza Hines/Hinds living there as of > August 11, 1862. Please share any Hines/Hinds family information that may > help determine who Mrs. 'Polly' Hines/Hinds was married to prior to her > marriage to Rev War Vet John Forbis of Laurel Co KY. Thanks for sharing. > 'R.E.' > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

Hopefully this will get you to the website listing all of the names; Maybe you will have to copy and type out this address exactly as shown ... http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.usa.states.m issouri.counties.grundy/650 if it arrives broken without complete underlining of the full address length. Good luck in finding your family that moved from Laurel Co KY to Livingson/Grundy Co MO abt 1837. 'R.E.'

Hopefully you can go this webaddress and see a list of people living in Grundy Co MO shortly after it was created from Livingston Co MO ... many of these people had moved from Laurel Co KY including my George W Henson. http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=printmessage&r=an&p=localities.northam .usa.states.missouri.counties.grundy&m=650&onok=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.ancestry .com%2Fmbexec%3Fhtx%3Dmessage%26r%3Dan%26p%3Dlocalities.northam.usa.states.m issouri.counties.grundy Good Luck in finding someone you know from Laurel Co KY 'R.E.' -----Original Message----- From: Mary Hart [mailto:mfhart@grm.net] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:16 AM To: roaten@prodigy.net Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY Mr. Henson, do you have additional information about the people who moved as a group to the Livingston/Grundy County area of Missouri prior to 1840? Some of my family lines came from the Laurel/Knox/Whitley area about the same time and I have alsways heard about a wagon train. Some of the names would have been Hart, Owen, Higgins, Loe, Lowe, and probably several others. I also believe that one of the Hart men returned to Kentucky, probably about the same time your George W returned. Would appreciate very much hearing from you about those who made the trip to north Missouri. Mary Hart ... a lot of these same people moveed as a group (wagon train) to > Missouri and were found in the 1840 Livingston/Grundy Co MO Census where > many Laurel Co residents settled. My George W and some others returned to > Laurel Co KY abt 1845. Thanks for all of your help and sharing. 'R.E.'

I'm finding that one of Joseph's brothers also moved to Wayne Co., KY. I probably shouldn't post all of that info as the rest of the folks on this list would probably keel over from the onslaught of Hinds information. ;o) Just a synopsis: Joseph Hinds' brother Samuel married at least twice; Sarah ___ abt 1788 and Mrs. Martha Carrigan on Aug 20, 1820. Samuel moved to (now) Wayne Co, KY where he surveyed a grant on the Cumberland river on Dec. 20, 1798, and a grant of 50 acres there on June 3, 1800. Another brother, Levi, moved from Hawkins (now Knox Co.), TN to Madison county, Alabama. Another brother, Simeon, moved to Overton Co., TN and lived out his life there. In addition to the brothers (Joseph, Samuel, Levi, and Simeon) there were also 7 sisters: Charity, Hannah, Ruth, Mary, Phoebe, Sarah and Abagail. Kathy Hines in MN

Moving one generation back from the family described in my last e-mail: From the book "HINDS of KY and TN" by Trimble - pg. 2 Joseph Hinds was born about 1759 in Morris County, New Jersey, and moved to Rowan (now Randolph) County, North Carolina, where in 1779 he paid taxes on 200 acres, 30 of which were improved, three cattle and 5 pounds cash, all valued at 335 pounds. About 1780 he married Margaret _____; they moved to Hawkins (now Knox) County, Tennessee, and then to Green (now Wayne) County, Kentucky, where on April 7, 1799, he surveyed a grant of 100 acres on the waters of Cumberland River; on May 20, 1799 , he sruveyed another 100 acres grant there. On August 22, 1808, he sold 300 acres of his father's 5,000 acre grant on Duck River in Maury County, Tennessee, to Joseph Woods for $40.00; on April 1, 1811, he received a grant of 100 acres on Meadows' Mill Creek. He died about 1813, leaving the following children: [1] Joseph Hinds, b. c1781; m. March 30, 1801, Amy Meece - lived in Madison county, KY in 1815. [2] George Hinds, b. c1783; m. Nov. 28, 1811, Mary Hinkle - many of his children moved to Cole county, MO and perhaps he moved there about 1840 as well. [3] Benjamin Hinds, b. c1785; private in Barbee's 7th Regiment of KY militia in the War of 1812; m. Dec. 20, 1819, Nancy Fox - they moved to Miller county, MO where he died about 1856. [4] Jane Hinds, born Nov. 20, 1787; m. Nov. 12, 1805, Joel Bond - they moved to Breckenridge county, KY and then to Miller county, MO [5] Charity Hinds, b. Aug 9, 1789; m. Nay 26, 1808, William Bond - they moved to Cole county, MO [6] Stephen Hinds (described in my last e-mail) [7] Margaret Hinds, b. c1793; m. Feb. 26, 1814, John McHenry - they lived in Bates county, MO. John died in Jefferson City, MO, while serving in the state legislature.

Hi R.E. and listers, Maxine gives good advice of always looking for Hine/Hind without the s too. I see it more often *with* the 's,' but it's not terribly unusual to see it left off as well. I can talk best about the HINDS line that R.E. mentions by starting with my husband's direct line of Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines who married Jane Waddle in Pulaski co., KY on November 14, 1849. From there I can work my way back fairly well. I do have copies of some records for Pulaski county, but I have never (personally) researched Wayne county yet. I can add to what I know on the HINDS/HINES line by referring to a book I have: "HINDS of Kentucky and Tennessee" by David B. Trimble. It was published in 1994 and is a conglomeration of many researchers' work. As always, it is advisable to verify the records named in the research. Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines m. Jane Waddle in Pulaski co., KY on November 14, 1849. They had 11 known children, one of whom was Benjamin P. Hines - my husband's great-grandfather. Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines was born on January 13, 1823 in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY. I think I have a photo of his grave here somewhere, which verifies his birthdate. But I have not proven he was born in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY as yet. His parents were Stephen Hinds and Sarah Reece. I have a marriage date for them of October 29, 1813. I believe that they married in Wayne county, KY, but I do not have a copy of that record as yet. From the HINDS book that I have: Stephen HINDS was born about 1791 in Knox county, Tennessee, and moved to Wayne county, Kentucky, in childhood. He served as a fifer in Capt. Micah Taul's Infantry Company of the 7th Regiment of Kentucky militia from August 23, 1812, to March 23, 1813; his children later received bounty land for his service. On October 29, 1813, he married Sarah Reece and then moved to Madison County, Kentucky. ON October 14, 1826, they sold their 83 acres on Silver Creek to John Richardson and moved to Pulaski County, Kentucky, where both died about 1844. References: Bounty Land Warrant #24421-8055, National Archives, Washinton D.C. Wayne county, KY marriages Madison county, KY Deed Book R. pg 313 census 1820 Pulaski county, KY marriages census 1830-1860 records belonging to Charles A. Hines records belonging to Larry R. Herrin This is what I have on the descendants of Stephen Hinds so far: Stephen Hinds b: 1791 in Knox Co., TN d: September 28, 1850 in Pulaski Co. KY +Sarah Reece m: October 29, 1813 in Wayne Co., KY? d: Abt. 1844 in Pulaski Co. KY Children: [1] Cynthia Hinds b: Abt. 1814 in Madison Co., KY d: Abt. 1835 in Pulaski Co. KY +Washington Reece Gragg m: January 09, 1829 in Pulaski Co., KY *2nd Husband of [1] Cynthia Hinds: +Washington Reece Gragg b: Abt. 1805 in KY d: June 25, 1847 in Pulaski Co., KY [2] Nancy Hinds b: Abt. 1816 in Madison Co., KY d: Abt. 1840 in Pulaski Co. KY +Lewis Ping b: October 09, 1809 m: February 05, 1835 in Pulaski Co. KY d: July 17, 1900 [3] Margaret Hinds b: Abt. 1818 +William McKinney m: October 11, 1865 [4] daughter Hinds b: Abt. 1820 [5] Samuel Stephen Hinds/Hines b: January 13, 1823 in Madison (or Knox Co.), KY d: February 23, 1880 in Pulaski Co., KY Fact 1: 1850 Census PCo. KY - School teacher (household 828) +Jane Waddle b: October 11, 1830 in Pulaski Co., KY m: November 14, 1849 in Pulaski Co., KY d: October 11, 1905 in Pulaski Co., KY [6] Joel Hinds b: Abt. 1826 d: January 16, 1860 in Pulaski Co. KY +Nancy Jane Ashley m: February 03, 1851 [7] son Hinds b: Abt. 1828 [8] John R. Hinds b: Abt. 1832 in Pulaski Co. KY Burial: Keeney Cemetery, KY +Elizabeth Ann Waddle b: October 10, 1834 m: November 07, 1853 in Pulaski Co., KY [9] Stephen Hinds b: May 18, 1834 +Ohio Ham m: February 04, 1857 d: Abt. 1859 [10] James Hinds b: July 24, 1836 d: December 12, 1863 in Stanford, KY +Mariah Jane Gregory b: March 04, 1842 d: June 07, 1902 [11] Benjamin Hinds b: June 14, 1839 This is probably enough for one e-mail. ;o) Kathy Hines in MN "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." wrote: > > Well, my Henson line also appears to have come out of Randoph Co NC via > Wayne Co KY. Kathy, the big question that a lot of people would like to > know is the one you just asked. I don't know who Mrs. Mary 'Polly' > Hines/Hinds was married to before she married Rev War Vet John Forbis of > Laurel Co KY. A 'Paul Pigg' certified that 'Polly' was a widow so she was > free to marry John. Paul Pigg should be a good lead to check out ... is he > her father/brother? After John Forbis died 1854, 'Polly' applied and was > approved to receive a pension based on John's military service and she lived > out her life in Laurel Co KY. The only Hines/Hinds that I have in my > data-base in Madison Co KY is a John Hines/Hinds married to Rebecca Robinson > on August 06, 1789 Madison Co KY. John and Rebecca had a daughter Margaret > 'Peggy' Hines/Hinds who married Thomas Harris/Harrison (son of Sherrod) on > August 09, 1811 Clay Co KY. I am showing a Stephen Hines/Hinds b abt 1792 > married to a Sarah Reece. I also have a Samuel Hines/Hinds who showed up in > the 1805 Garrard Co KY Tax List. Also, Jackson Co KY came out of Laurel Co > KY and in Jackson Co KY there was an Eliza Hines/Hinds living there as of > August 11, 1862. Please share any Hines/Hinds family information that may > help determine who Mrs. 'Polly' Hines/Hinds was married to prior to her > marriage to Rev War Vet John Forbis of Laurel Co KY. Thanks for sharing. > 'R.E.' >

It may be well to try the names Hine/Hind without the s. I know there was a family who spelled their name like that in Laurel County, KY. Perhaps Polly was married to one of them. Maxine > "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." wrote: >> >> Mary Ann, I noticed Wyat Hazlewood listed. He is listed in the 1820 Clay > Co >> KY Census b bef 1775. Wyatt was married to Martha PIGG. Remember our >> Rev >> War Vet John Forbis/etc married Mrs. Mary 'Polly' Hines/Hinds on Feb 20, >> 1820 Clay Co KY and they lived out their lives in Laurel Co KY. 'Polly' > is >> thought to have a maiden name of Pigg. A Paul Pigg certified that >> 'Polly' >> was a widow so she could marry John. Curious if Martha Pigg is a >> sister/related to 'Polly' Pigg ... or is this just coincidence that all >> of >> these people are living so close together ... I don't think so. 'R.E.' --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004

OK, *that* got my curiosity. Any clues as to who Mrs. Mary 'Polly' Hines/Hinds was originally married to? I know around 1779 the Joseph Hinds family lived in Rowan (now Randolph) county, NC. My hubby's line in the son named Stephen Hinds/Hines. Stephen was born in Knox county, NT, then move to Wayne county, KY in childhood. In adulthood he lived in Madison county, KY before finally settling in Pulaski county, KY. Kathy "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." wrote: > > Mary Ann, I noticed Wyat Hazlewood listed. He is listed in the 1820 Clay Co > KY Census b bef 1775. Wyatt was married to Martha PIGG. Remember our Rev > War Vet John Forbis/etc married Mrs. Mary 'Polly' Hines/Hinds on Feb 20, > 1820 Clay Co KY and they lived out their lives in Laurel Co KY. 'Polly' is > thought to have a maiden name of Pigg. A Paul Pigg certified that 'Polly' > was a widow so she could marry John. Curious if Martha Pigg is a > sister/related to 'Polly' Pigg ... or is this just coincidence that all of > these people are living so close together ... I don't think so. 'R.E.' > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Ann Bolton" <hipurplepassion@msn.com> > To: "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." <roaten@prodigy.net> > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:41 AM > Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY > > > Roaten, VERY interesting that your George is living near Fanbush, Hirum > and > > Fanbush, William, eh? Then Fanbush,Isaac is on 267 and old Fanbush,John > is > > on 258. > > Aloha, Mary Ann PS Do you want to see a pdf of this page 266 to count > the > > people? > > > > Page 266 of 1830 Laurel County Census > > Johnson Aaron 266 > > Seaburn Thos 266 > > Wyat James 266 > > Dotton Vollentine 266 > > Fielder William 266 > > Morris James 266 > > Hays Tabner? 266 > > Hays Alexander 266 > > Derek? (or Duck?) Mary 266 > > Westerfield John 266 > > Morris Mark 266 > > Cornelius Eli 266 > > Cornelius William 266 > > Paris Elijah 266 > > Paris Moses 266 > > Paris Ezekiel 266 > > Paris Joshua 266 > > Paris Wm. Senor. 266 > > Paris Wm. 266 > > Hillard Henry 266 > > Caststeel John 266 > > Fanbush Hirum 266 > > Enman Elijah 266 > > Fanbush William 266 > > Baker Wensley 266 > > Henson George 266 > > Hazlewood Wyat 266 > > Benge John 266 > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ROATEN E HINSON, JR." <roaten@prodigy.net> > > To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:29 PM > > Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] George W Henson b abt 1799 NC of Laurel Co KY > > > > > > > Would anyone with access to the '1830' Laurel Co KY Census please let me > > > know if my gg-grandfather George W Henson abt 1799 NC is listed? I have > > > been told George is listed in the 1828 Laurel Co KY Tax List. George > > > lived > > > in an area of Laurel Co KY that came out of Rockcastle Co KY. Later, > his > > > area of Laurel Co became Jackson Co KY. Thanks very much for any > > > help/infomation you can give me on my George W. 'R.E.' > > > > > > > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > > > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > > > > > > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)