Lexington Hearld-Leader Lexington, Kentucky Tuesday, August 12, 2003 Section B, Page 5 Funeral Notices/Memorials STURGILL Christine Steele Sturgill. Services 11:00 A.M. Tuesday at Christ Church Cathedral. Interment Lexington Cemetery. Survivors include her son and daughter-in-law, Thomas C and Candance H. Sturgill; two grandsons, Thomas C. "Neil" Sturgill, Jr. and Chadwick C. Sturgill; two great granddaughters, Katherine A and Hannach C Sturgill; daughter-in-law Ann D. Sturgill, all of Lexington; and two step-grandsons Stephen B. Bentley and P. Reid Hurley. Casket bearers will be Evan Adams, Clay Williams, Preston Madden, Jerry D. Truitt, P.J. Baugh, Paul Honeycutt. Honorary casket bearers will be Kent C. Moseley, D.D.S., James E. "Ted" Bassett, III, Herbert F. Geddes, Adolph F. Rupp, Jr., Hal Price Headley and Major Hugh McEwen. Memorials tro Hospice of the Bluegrass, Christ Church Cathedral Garden, Cardinal Hill Hospital or the Don Sturgill Scholarship Fund at the University of Kentucky College of Law. www.milwardfuneral.com

Jess you proved that to me with my gg grandfather John Simpson's Revolutionary War stone. It is what is on top of the ground, not what is beneath it, that keeps the memory alive. Glenda Simpson Hughes ----- Original Message ----- From: Jess Wilson To: KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] Reedy burial Geri, I think you can get a memorial stone and place it in any cemetery that will accept it. I think that you have to explain why you do not know where he is buried.After all a stone is something that says "Remember me. " more than it says, "Here is buried some musty bones." JESS WILSON ----- Original Message ----- From: <gfessel@otherside.com> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] Reedy burial > Jess, > It was me Geri Delph Fessel , that wrote you & came to your home , trying > to > find any information on my ggggrandfather Benjamin Franklin Delph,You sent > me > papers to get his pension papers, I got them & it said on one of his > checks , > that he had died & the check was sent back, The checks were sent to > Livington > ,Ky. I sent some Quaries to Rockcastle Co. Was told there was no listing > of any > cemeteries that had his name nor his wife Dorcas name.I then went up there > & ask > at the libary, we check all their papers & books . I wanted to get him a > civil > war grave stone, But can't find out where he is buried at. > > > Quoting Jess Wilson <jswlsn@prtcnet.org>: > >> Olan, I have found the pension file of Benjamil F. Delph in my files. >> Many >> years ago someone wrote me about him. As my lette rs have been sent to >> the >> Special Collecti ons of the Berea College Library, I can`t tell who wrote >> me. He was in Company E, 7 th Kentucky Infanry. enrolled Aug 19, 1861 >> Mustered out October, 5, 1864, As he lved and died at Livingston he was , >> most likely, buried in the Red Hill Cemetery. I have been there a few >> times. >> My grand uncle, Theophilus Pigg is buried there.ome back to these parts, >> contact me and I will take you to the cemetery.. >> Jess Wilson >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <gfessel@otherside.com> >> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] Reedy burial >> >> >> > Please send me his email too,I am trying to find out where my >> > gggrandfather is >> > buried, He was in the civil war, on his pension paper when they sent >> > his >> > last >> > check said he died in Livington, Ky.His name was Benjamin Franklin >> > Delph. >> > >> > Quoting Olan Watkins <OlanWatkins@compuserve.com>: >> > >> >> My son is the Graves Registration person for the local SUV Camp and >> >> has >> >> contact with the National SUV Graves Registration person, I will see >> >> if I >> >> can get his email address and send it to you. >> >> >> >> I am pretty sure that the 26th KY Inf was a Union Troop. >> >> >> >> Olan >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: >> >> KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >> In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: >> > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com >> > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== >> To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: >> KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com >> In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) >> >> > > > > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

Geri, I think you can get a memorial stone and place it in any cemetery that will accept it. I think that you have to explain why you do not know where he is buried.After all a stone is something that says "Remember me. " more than it says, "Here is buried some musty bones." JESS WILSON ----- Original Message ----- From: <gfessel@otherside.com> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] Reedy burial > Jess, > It was me Geri Delph Fessel , that wrote you & came to your home , trying > to > find any information on my ggggrandfather Benjamin Franklin Delph,You sent > me > papers to get his pension papers, I got them & it said on one of his > checks , > that he had died & the check was sent back, The checks were sent to > Livington > ,Ky. I sent some Quaries to Rockcastle Co. Was told there was no listing > of any > cemeteries that had his name nor his wife Dorcas name.I then went up there > & ask > at the libary, we check all their papers & books . I wanted to get him a > civil > war grave stone, But can't find out where he is buried at. > > > Quoting Jess Wilson <jswlsn@prtcnet.org>: > >> Olan, I have found the pension file of Benjamil F. Delph in my files. >> Many >> years ago someone wrote me about him. As my lette rs have been sent to >> the >> Special Collecti ons of the Berea College Library, I can`t tell who wrote >> me. He was in Company E, 7 th Kentucky Infanry. enrolled Aug 19, 1861 >> Mustered out October, 5, 1864, As he lved and died at Livingston he was , >> most likely, buried in the Red Hill Cemetery. I have been there a few >> times. >> My grand uncle, Theophilus Pigg is buried there.ome back to these parts, >> contact me and I will take you to the cemetery.. >> Jess Wilson >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <gfessel@otherside.com> >> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] Reedy burial >> >> >> > Please send me his email too,I am trying to find out where my >> > gggrandfather is >> > buried, He was in the civil war, on his pension paper when they sent >> > his >> > last >> > check said he died in Livington, Ky.His name was Benjamin Franklin >> > Delph. >> > >> > Quoting Olan Watkins <OlanWatkins@compuserve.com>: >> > >> >> My son is the Graves Registration person for the local SUV Camp and >> >> has >> >> contact with the National SUV Graves Registration person, I will see >> >> if I >> >> can get his email address and send it to you. >> >> >> >> I am pretty sure that the 26th KY Inf was a Union Troop. >> >> >> >> Olan >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: >> >> KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >> In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: >> > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com >> > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== >> To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: >> KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com >> In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) >> >> > > > > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > >

Jess, It was me Geri Delph Fessel , that wrote you & came to your home , trying to find any information on my ggggrandfather Benjamin Franklin Delph,You sent me papers to get his pension papers, I got them & it said on one of his checks , that he had died & the check was sent back, The checks were sent to Livington ,Ky. I sent some Quaries to Rockcastle Co. Was told there was no listing of any cemeteries that had his name nor his wife Dorcas name.I then went up there & ask at the libary, we check all their papers & books . I wanted to get him a civil war grave stone, But can't find out where he is buried at. Quoting Jess Wilson <jswlsn@prtcnet.org>: > Olan, I have found the pension file of Benjamil F. Delph in my files. Many > years ago someone wrote me about him. As my lette rs have been sent to the > Special Collecti ons of the Berea College Library, I can`t tell who wrote > me. He was in Company E, 7 th Kentucky Infanry. enrolled Aug 19, 1861 > Mustered out October, 5, 1864, As he lved and died at Livingston he was , > most likely, buried in the Red Hill Cemetery. I have been there a few times. > My grand uncle, Theophilus Pigg is buried there.ome back to these parts, > contact me and I will take you to the cemetery.. > Jess Wilson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gfessel@otherside.com> > To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [KYLAUREL-L] Reedy burial > > > > Please send me his email too,I am trying to find out where my > > gggrandfather is > > buried, He was in the civil war, on his pension paper when they sent his > > last > > check said he died in Livington, Ky.His name was Benjamin Franklin Delph. > > > > Quoting Olan Watkins <OlanWatkins@compuserve.com>: > > > >> My son is the Graves Registration person for the local SUV Camp and has > >> contact with the National SUV Graves Registration person, I will see if I > >> can get his email address and send it to you. > >> > >> I am pretty sure that the 26th KY Inf was a Union Troop. > >> > >> Olan > >> > >> > >> ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > >> KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > >> In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > > > > > > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > >

Jasper and Betty , the Wages in Clay County turned into Wagers, of which there are a few. You should be hearing from them soon.. Jess Wilson, sorry I am not kin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JASPER WAGES" <jasperwages@kih.net> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:43 PM Subject: RE: [KYLAUREL-L] HARVEY CLELL HENSON and Henson family Research of Henson's Clay/Knox Co and adjacent areas of KY > > My name is Wages> Did you know any of the Wages? Here is our Family > tree. My husband Jasper Wages direct line: > > Benjamin Wages born about 1742 > John Wages born about 1785 > Dutton Wages > Highy Wages > Jasper Wages > Elisha M. Wages born 11/11/1900 > Jasper S. Wages born 7?24/1926 > > Some use Wages/Wagers Who knows??? > > Thanks for your time. Jasper and Betty Wages We live in Ky. > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: ROATEN E HINSON, JR. <roaten@prodigy.net> >> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 1/27/2005 9:23:05 PM >> Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] HARVEY CLELL HENSON and Henson family Research of > Henson's Clay/Knox Co and adjacent areas of KY >> >> Hi and thanks for getting in touch with me regarding your ancestor Martha >> Jean Henson. In my Henson data-base, I am showing your mother Martha >> Jean >> Henson's parents as Harvey Clell Henson and Sarah 'Sally' Liford who > married >> Feb 19, 1913 Knox Co KY. I am showing Martha had at least 2 siblings > Amanda >> and Alfred Henson. Amanda married a Mr. Wynn ... I don't have anything >> on >> Alfred. To anyone reading this posing ... please give the children's >> names/info of Harvey and Sarah Henson if you have any. I am showing > Harvey >> Clell Henson as born Oct 25, 1877 at Big Creek, Clay Co KY. Harvey's >> parents are shown as Richard Henson and Margaret Milissa Finley who > married >> March 05, 1870 Clay Co KY. I am showing Harvey with a sibling Melvina >> Henson b Feb 10, 1876 Clay Co KY. Do you have any information on > additional >> siblings of Harvey as to the names/births/marriages etc? I am showing >> Richard Henson's parents as Peter 'Harvey' Henson married to Mary 'Polly' >> Wagers/Wages on Dec 29, 1846 Clay Co KY (father Paul Henson consenting). >> Mary's father John Wagers/Wages posted bond for the marriage. I am > showing >> Peter 'Harvey' Henson's parents as Paul Henson JR b abt 1788 NC married >> to >> Margaret Smith on Aug 20, 1808 Clay Co KY (bondsman John Henson). >> Showing >> Margaret Smiths parents as Thomas Smith and Eunice Nancy Lewis-Smith. >> Showing Paul Henson JR as the son of Rev War Vet Paul Henson and wife >> unknown. Rev War Vet Paul Henson applied for a Rev War Pension on July > 04, >> 1837 Clay Co KY. See Madison Co KY Tax List dated Aug 13, 1804 and see >> 1810/20/30 Clay Co KY Census. Please note that a Paul Henson SR and JR, > and >> a John Henson was listed in 1787 Wilkes Co NC Tax List taken by Nathaniel >> Vannoy. Showing Rev War Vet Paul Henson as a son of 'Old' Paul Henson b > abt >> 1710 of Wilkes/Ash Co NC ... see 1767 Pitsylvania Co VA and 1787-1790 > Wilkes >> Co NC for 'Old' Paul Henson. 'Old' Paul Henson's land deed (Deed of > Gift?) >> dated Oct 08, 1796 Wilkes Co NC named his children as; William, Martha, >> Winetrey/Winefred, Paul JR, James, John, and Richard. Please note that > most >> of the Henson family information in my data-base was received from other >> Henson family researchers sharing their research information so please >> double-check everything and consider all information as at least 'very > good >> leads' for continued Henson research/proof. Thanks for sharing as I > always >> do. 'R.E.' >> >> >> ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== >> To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: >> KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com >> In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > > > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > >

Jasper Wages Grandmother was Martha Belle Gregory. She had a Sister Name Elisabeth Gregory that married a Blevins Smith. Any help would be appreciated. Their was a Smithe Smith born 2/1800's She was from Ky. She married Highy Wages. I think that Shooting Iron Smith was Smithe Smith's Father. I love these names. Jasper and Betty Wages > [Original Message] > From: ROATEN E HINSON, JR. <roaten@prodigy.net> > To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/27/2005 9:23:05 PM > Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] HARVEY CLELL HENSON and Henson family Research of Henson's Clay/Knox Co and adjacent areas of KY > > Hi and thanks for getting in touch with me regarding your ancestor Martha > Jean Henson. In my Henson data-base, I am showing your mother Martha Jean > Henson's parents as Harvey Clell Henson and Sarah 'Sally' Liford who married > Feb 19, 1913 Knox Co KY. I am showing Martha had at least 2 siblings Amanda > and Alfred Henson. Amanda married a Mr. Wynn ... I don't have anything on > Alfred. To anyone reading this posing ... please give the children's > names/info of Harvey and Sarah Henson if you have any. I am showing Harvey > Clell Henson as born Oct 25, 1877 at Big Creek, Clay Co KY. Harvey's > parents are shown as Richard Henson and Margaret Milissa Finley who married > March 05, 1870 Clay Co KY. I am showing Harvey with a sibling Melvina > Henson b Feb 10, 1876 Clay Co KY. Do you have any information on additional > siblings of Harvey as to the names/births/marriages etc? I am showing > Richard Henson's parents as Peter 'Harvey' Henson married to Mary 'Polly' > Wagers/Wages on Dec 29, 1846 Clay Co KY (father Paul Henson consenting). > Mary's father John Wagers/Wages posted bond for the marriage. I am showing > Peter 'Harvey' Henson's parents as Paul Henson JR b abt 1788 NC married to > Margaret Smith on Aug 20, 1808 Clay Co KY (bondsman John Henson). Showing > Margaret Smiths parents as Thomas Smith and Eunice Nancy Lewis-Smith. > Showing Paul Henson JR as the son of Rev War Vet Paul Henson and wife > unknown. Rev War Vet Paul Henson applied for a Rev War Pension on July 04, > 1837 Clay Co KY. See Madison Co KY Tax List dated Aug 13, 1804 and see > 1810/20/30 Clay Co KY Census. Please note that a Paul Henson SR and JR, and > a John Henson was listed in 1787 Wilkes Co NC Tax List taken by Nathaniel > Vannoy. Showing Rev War Vet Paul Henson as a son of 'Old' Paul Henson b abt > 1710 of Wilkes/Ash Co NC ... see 1767 Pitsylvania Co VA and 1787-1790 Wilkes > Co NC for 'Old' Paul Henson. 'Old' Paul Henson's land deed (Deed of Gift?) > dated Oct 08, 1796 Wilkes Co NC named his children as; William, Martha, > Winetrey/Winefred, Paul JR, James, John, and Richard. Please note that most > of the Henson family information in my data-base was received from other > Henson family researchers sharing their research information so please > double-check everything and consider all information as at least 'very good > leads' for continued Henson research/proof. Thanks for sharing as I always > do. 'R.E.' > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

My name is Wages> Did you know any of the Wages? Here is our Family tree. My husband Jasper Wages direct line: Benjamin Wages born about 1742 John Wages born about 1785 Dutton Wages Highy Wages Jasper Wages Elisha M. Wages born 11/11/1900 Jasper S. Wages born 7?24/1926 Some use Wages/Wagers Who knows??? Thanks for your time. Jasper and Betty Wages We live in Ky. > [Original Message] > From: ROATEN E HINSON, JR. <roaten@prodigy.net> > To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/27/2005 9:23:05 PM > Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] HARVEY CLELL HENSON and Henson family Research of Henson's Clay/Knox Co and adjacent areas of KY > > Hi and thanks for getting in touch with me regarding your ancestor Martha > Jean Henson. In my Henson data-base, I am showing your mother Martha Jean > Henson's parents as Harvey Clell Henson and Sarah 'Sally' Liford who married > Feb 19, 1913 Knox Co KY. I am showing Martha had at least 2 siblings Amanda > and Alfred Henson. Amanda married a Mr. Wynn ... I don't have anything on > Alfred. To anyone reading this posing ... please give the children's > names/info of Harvey and Sarah Henson if you have any. I am showing Harvey > Clell Henson as born Oct 25, 1877 at Big Creek, Clay Co KY. Harvey's > parents are shown as Richard Henson and Margaret Milissa Finley who married > March 05, 1870 Clay Co KY. I am showing Harvey with a sibling Melvina > Henson b Feb 10, 1876 Clay Co KY. Do you have any information on additional > siblings of Harvey as to the names/births/marriages etc? I am showing > Richard Henson's parents as Peter 'Harvey' Henson married to Mary 'Polly' > Wagers/Wages on Dec 29, 1846 Clay Co KY (father Paul Henson consenting). > Mary's father John Wagers/Wages posted bond for the marriage. I am showing > Peter 'Harvey' Henson's parents as Paul Henson JR b abt 1788 NC married to > Margaret Smith on Aug 20, 1808 Clay Co KY (bondsman John Henson). Showing > Margaret Smiths parents as Thomas Smith and Eunice Nancy Lewis-Smith. > Showing Paul Henson JR as the son of Rev War Vet Paul Henson and wife > unknown. Rev War Vet Paul Henson applied for a Rev War Pension on July 04, > 1837 Clay Co KY. See Madison Co KY Tax List dated Aug 13, 1804 and see > 1810/20/30 Clay Co KY Census. Please note that a Paul Henson SR and JR, and > a John Henson was listed in 1787 Wilkes Co NC Tax List taken by Nathaniel > Vannoy. Showing Rev War Vet Paul Henson as a son of 'Old' Paul Henson b abt > 1710 of Wilkes/Ash Co NC ... see 1767 Pitsylvania Co VA and 1787-1790 Wilkes > Co NC for 'Old' Paul Henson. 'Old' Paul Henson's land deed (Deed of Gift?) > dated Oct 08, 1796 Wilkes Co NC named his children as; William, Martha, > Winetrey/Winefred, Paul JR, James, John, and Richard. Please note that most > of the Henson family information in my data-base was received from other > Henson family researchers sharing their research information so please > double-check everything and consider all information as at least 'very good > leads' for continued Henson research/proof. Thanks for sharing as I always > do. 'R.E.' > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

I'm indirectly related, through the Sturgills and Norvells. Kathy Shar748@aol.com wrote: > > We want to know how you buried Uncle Harve..........Is anyone reading this > kin to the McHargue families in Mount Vernon, London, Pine Hill, KY? > Sharyn McHargue > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

We want to know how you buried Uncle Harve..........Is anyone reading this kin to the McHargue families in Mount Vernon, London, Pine Hill, KY? Sharyn McHargue

Jess love your stories. Jesus is Lord and is coming again. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jess Wilson<mailto:jswlsn@prtcnet.org> To: KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:02 AM Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] HOW I BURIED UNCLE HARVE, HOW I BURIED UNCLE HARVE, Part 1. Of the condensed version. When I was a lad we seldom heard of a funeral home. When there was a death in the neighborhood, we didn't call a funeral home or a local flower shop while trying to figure out how much money we would be expected to spend. Instead, we began to wonder where the mattocks, shovels and the broad adz were and what carpenter we could get to make a coffin and who should lay out, wash and dress the corpse. Someone went into the woods and selected a long slim sapling to cut the exact length of the deceased's body. A notch was cut a distance from one end to show how wide. This was given to the carpenter who would cut another longer stick to show the grave diggers how long and wide the grave should be dug. Other men would gather at some barn or mill shed to help the carpenter build a coffin and a wooden vault box. The women and girls would gather at some home to cook and sew. As I grew up I was in turn a tool finder, a stick toter, a water boy and a helper to the rough carpenters who made the vault box from rough oak lumber. I eventually became a helper to the finish carpenter who made the coffin. The coffin was padded inside with quilted-cotton batts and lined with satin cloth. The outside of the coffin was covered with "grave cloth", an imprinted grey muslin that local merchants kept on the top shelf in their stores. We had a well defined and recognized knowledge as to what tasks were men's work and what was expected from the distaff side of the households. Digging the grave and the making of the lumber part of the coffins were indisputably recognized as being within the jurisdiction of the male members, cooking necessary for the burial gatherings and sewing of garments for the deceased or members of the bereaved family to wear to the funeral were well within the realm of the women. When it came to lining the coffin and covering it with cloth there was a definite territorial conflict. The women would do what cutting and sewing they could at the house. The cloth would then be sent to where the coffin was being made by some girl-child with a firm command to "hurry right back". The carpenter, all to often unfamiliar with working with cloth, was left to do the best he could. It was in this nitch that I was able to gain recognition as a useful young member of our society. When Uncle Harve died the family asked me to make his coffin. More next time. ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com> In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE)

"About a hundred and fifty years ago," Jess, I cackled and fell plumb out a my chair. jus to funny. thanks, Avery

I'm dying to hear the rest of this. ;o) Jess Wilson wrote: > > HOW I BURIED UNCLE HARVE, >

HOW I BURIED UNCLE HARVE, Part 1. Of the condensed version. When I was a lad we seldom heard of a funeral home. When there was a death in the neighborhood, we didn't call a funeral home or a local flower shop while trying to figure out how much money we would be expected to spend. Instead, we began to wonder where the mattocks, shovels and the broad adz were and what carpenter we could get to make a coffin and who should lay out, wash and dress the corpse. Someone went into the woods and selected a long slim sapling to cut the exact length of the deceased's body. A notch was cut a distance from one end to show how wide. This was given to the carpenter who would cut another longer stick to show the grave diggers how long and wide the grave should be dug. Other men would gather at some barn or mill shed to help the carpenter build a coffin and a wooden vault box. The women and girls would gather at some home to cook and sew. As I grew up I was in turn a tool finder, a stick toter, a water boy and a helper to the rough carpenters who made the vault box from rough oak lumber. I eventually became a helper to the finish carpenter who made the coffin. The coffin was padded inside with quilted-cotton batts and lined with satin cloth. The outside of the coffin was covered with "grave cloth", an imprinted grey muslin that local merchants kept on the top shelf in their stores. We had a well defined and recognized knowledge as to what tasks were men's work and what was expected from the distaff side of the households. Digging the grave and the making of the lumber part of the coffins were indisputably recognized as being within the jurisdiction of the male members, cooking necessary for the burial gatherings and sewing of garments for the deceased or members of the bereaved family to wear to the funeral were well within the realm of the women. When it came to lining the coffin and covering it with cloth there was a definite territorial conflict. The women would do what cutting and sewing they could at the house. The cloth would then be sent to where the coffin was being made by some girl-child with a firm command to "hurry right back". The carpenter, all to often unfamiliar with working with cloth, was left to do the best he could. It was in this nitch that I was able to gain recognition as a useful young member of our society. When Uncle Harve died the family asked me to make his coffin. More next time.

Is anyone living in or near Laurel Co Ky able to do a obit lookup at a library? I am hoping to find an obit for a Franklin Reed who died 5/16/1918. I believe his last residence was Lily or very nearby there. Any help or advice greatly appreciated. Kimberly Berkshire

In a message dated 1/27/2005 11:11:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Travelers3711@aol.com writes: don't think it's possible to get Clay Co. back up like it Was. I'm afraid my predictions of it's demise was correct. It died out quickly and may never be restored to it's old self as many including myself unsubscribe from the Clay List. Only time will tell if it will ever return as it was. Gene Stillings Manchester, Tennessee I agree that something important and precious has been lost. I hung in for several weeks & finally gave up. Perhaps, one of the things that Laurel County can do is to continue to give those us who endured the "Clay County War" a quiet sanctuary. Vietta Jones Richardson Hamilton, OH I totally agree, and it is so hearbreaking. We can be very thankful to this list. I am so thankful that Jess is able to post his stories here, and that we have the freedom to talk about things. Charlotte Miller _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html) _http://www.geocities.com/c81371/index.html_ (http://www.geocities.com/c81371/index.html) _http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/index.html_ (http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/index.html)

In a message dated 1/27/2005 9:53:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, g_stillings@charter.net writes: don't think it's possible to get Clay Co. back up like it Was. I'm afraid my predictions of it's demise was correct. It died out quickly and may never be restored to it's old self as many including myself unsubscribe from the Clay List. Only time will tell if it will ever return as it was. Gene Stillings Manchester, Tennessee I agree that something important and precious has been lost. I hung in for several weeks & finally gave up. Perhaps, one of the things that Laurel County can do is to continue to give those us who endured the "Clay County War" a quiet sanctuary. Vietta Jones Richardson Hamilton, OH

NIMROD, THE MIGHTY HUNTER Nimrod, the mighty hunter, is mentioned in the Old Bible. In my younger days I was no Nimrod but I did have a unique way of catching a young rabbit. My father had a field which he planted in soy beans to make fodder for our milk cows. The field was near the creek. Along the creek bank was a thicket of alder bushes and willows. There was a path between the thicket and a woven wire fence. Late in the afternoon, rabbits would come out of the thicket, crawl under the fence to eat the young soy bean plants. I would walk softly along the path until I spied a rabbit out in the bean field. I would whistle softly to attract the rabbits attention as I crossed the fence which put me between the rabbit and its safety in the thicket along the creek. It was a long way across the field to a hiding place.. Home and safety to the poor little rabbit was the thicket where he was born, not somewhere beyond the soy bean patch. As I would whistle softly the rabbit would run to one side or the other and start to run toward the thicket. I would step over. The rabbit would stop and start the other way and I would step that way and head him off. When the rabbit finally decided to make a run for the far side of the field I would give chase and scream at the top of my voice. This would confuse the rabbit and it would try to return to the thicket by the creek and again I would move over to remain between the rabbit and the safety of the thicket. Soon the rabbit would tire and I would be able to catch it. As to hunting with a gun, I claim 100% success, I shot at one rabbit with a shot gun and killed it. As to squirrel hunting, I once went hunting with my father-in-law. He had a shot gun and went directly up the hill. I had a .22 rifle and went into the woods and climbed a low ridge following a path. I saw a squirrel on a limb directly over head. It was gnawing on a nut and was facing away from me. I raised my gun and fired. The animal fell at my feet and I put it in my coat pocket and continued along the path. Evidently, my bullet had only knock it out for it began scrambling in my jacket pocket. I backed up to a tree and brained the poor animal with my gun butt and swore to never go hunting again.

I don't think it's possible to get Clay Co. back up like it Was. I'm afraid my predictions of it's demise was correct. It died out quickly and may never be restored to it's old self as many including myself unsubscribe from the Clay List. Only time will tell if it will ever return as it was. Gene Stillings Manchester, Tennessee ----- Original Message ----- From: <RKIEE011@wmconnect.com> To: <KYLAUREL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [KYLAUREL-L] troubling > > Is there nothing that can be done to get Clay Co. back up and going it is > bad to see a web page as popular as this one was to see it just go away. I could > not have took as much abuse as the lady had and run that page. I would have > said by folks and left > Arvle George > > > ==== KYLAUREL Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list send an email to: > KYLAUREL-L-request@rootsweb.com > In the MESSAGE type the one word .... SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) > >

Mr. Arvel George, The person you are referring to as a lady is boss of the Clay Co. list now. We are letting her run it her way. And since your message isn't of a genealogical nature she wouldn't have allowed you post it there. So be careful about your posts lest we also have problems here. A Laurel Countian by birth. Frances howard Hickey

Hi and thanks for getting in touch with me regarding your ancestor Martha Jean Henson. In my Henson data-base, I am showing your mother Martha Jean Henson's parents as Harvey Clell Henson and Sarah 'Sally' Liford who married Feb 19, 1913 Knox Co KY. I am showing Martha had at least 2 siblings Amanda and Alfred Henson. Amanda married a Mr. Wynn ... I don't have anything on Alfred. To anyone reading this posing ... please give the children's names/info of Harvey and Sarah Henson if you have any. I am showing Harvey Clell Henson as born Oct 25, 1877 at Big Creek, Clay Co KY. Harvey's parents are shown as Richard Henson and Margaret Milissa Finley who married March 05, 1870 Clay Co KY. I am showing Harvey with a sibling Melvina Henson b Feb 10, 1876 Clay Co KY. Do you have any information on additional siblings of Harvey as to the names/births/marriages etc? I am showing Richard Henson's parents as Peter 'Harvey' Henson married to Mary 'Polly' Wagers/Wages on Dec 29, 1846 Clay Co KY (father Paul Henson consenting). Mary's father John Wagers/Wages posted bond for the marriage. I am showing Peter 'Harvey' Henson's parents as Paul Henson JR b abt 1788 NC married to Margaret Smith on Aug 20, 1808 Clay Co KY (bondsman John Henson). Showing Margaret Smiths parents as Thomas Smith and Eunice Nancy Lewis-Smith. Showing Paul Henson JR as the son of Rev War Vet Paul Henson and wife unknown. Rev War Vet Paul Henson applied for a Rev War Pension on July 04, 1837 Clay Co KY. See Madison Co KY Tax List dated Aug 13, 1804 and see 1810/20/30 Clay Co KY Census. Please note that a Paul Henson SR and JR, and a John Henson was listed in 1787 Wilkes Co NC Tax List taken by Nathaniel Vannoy. Showing Rev War Vet Paul Henson as a son of 'Old' Paul Henson b abt 1710 of Wilkes/Ash Co NC ... see 1767 Pitsylvania Co VA and 1787-1790 Wilkes Co NC for 'Old' Paul Henson. 'Old' Paul Henson's land deed (Deed of Gift?) dated Oct 08, 1796 Wilkes Co NC named his children as; William, Martha, Winetrey/Winefred, Paul JR, James, John, and Richard. Please note that most of the Henson family information in my data-base was received from other Henson family researchers sharing their research information so please double-check everything and consider all information as at least 'very good leads' for continued Henson research/proof. Thanks for sharing as I always do. 'R.E.'