For Phyllis, The information that I have, and I cannot document it, either, took it off the message board from Faith's account, is that Ephraim Moore was born about 1773, which would put him in about the right sequence of births in the family: 1. Jeremiah born about 1765 2. Elizabeth born about 1767 3. Deborah born about 1769 4. Mary born about 1771 5. Ephraim born about 1773 6. Zadoc born about 1775 7. Levi born about 1777 8. Joab born on May 17, 1780 (Faith says "this our line" so maybe you are in touch with her) 9. Jesse born Aug. 10, 1781 I am still struggling with Deborah's age - we show her as being born 1767 or 69 On 1850 census she is shown as being 81which would make her birth year 1769 On 1860 census she is shown as being 93 which would make her birth year 1767. I am more inclined to go with the 1850 number, as on it her husband Jesse is shown as being 82 and she 81, while on the 1860 schedule they are both shown to be 93 so perhaps someone else gave the information because of their advanced ages. Incidentally, Elijah Harris is shown next to them in the slave schedule in 1860. He has 13 slaves, Jesse Fowler has 4. jean in ok