This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5177.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I am not absolutely sure about all of this information, but here goes. Some I have in my database and some I do not. As far as Celia BAKER , this could be her: 1870 Knox Co. Dwelling 153-2-2 BAKER, Joseph, 69 farmer, VA . Jane, 69 ,b. KY . Margaret J., 26, KY . Amanda, 20 ,KY . .Celia A., 17, b. KY * * NOTE: This family does not appear to have yet arrived in Knox Co. as of the 1860. Don't know where they were. As far as Gorden/Gordon is concerned, by 1880, he appears as follows: Dwelling 201-208 MESSER, Gorden, 24, husband, b. KY; parents b. KY . Cealy, 24, wife, b. KY;parents .KY . Wesley, 4 , son, b. KY . Pallas, 2, son, b. KY . .Frank C., 2 mo's, son, KY NOTE: I could not locate their marriage in Knox or in Bell Co.;however. I have this Gordon as a child of Edward/Edmond MESSER, b. ABT.1816 in Knox Co. (s/o Moses MESSER and Winnie GOLDEN MESSER) and Annabelle DUNLAP/Anna/Anne PATTERSON b. abt. 1815 in Knox Co. Although Edward MESSER was in Knox co. the whole first part of his life, by the 1880 Fed. Census he was in Ray Co., MO where he supposedly died at some point aft. the 1880 Fed. Census. Edward was married to a Arin WALKER TAYLOR abt. which I have no additional information. Then in 1834 in Knox co. , he married to Anna PATTERSON who had married lst to John WALKER and was a widow when she married to Edward MESSER. They had a whole bunch of children and then later in life , he took up with a Mary SCALF less than half his age, and started having children with her. After a while, they married and continued having more children. What is a little confusing is that the 1860 Fed. Census for Knox does not list this Gordon and then the 1870 lists him but slightly out of order. Actually Edward MESSER this new wife, Mary SCALF MESSER , and his former wife, Anna and her dau. from her first marriage and granddau. are all listed as though they were in the same household but were probably living in another home on his property. 1870 Knox Co. Dwellinb 90-1-1 Flat Lick MESSER, Edward, 55, farmer, b. KY . Mary , 21, KY (nee SCALF) .l Elihew, 4, KY . Anthony, 1, KY . Richard, 20, KY . .Ellis, 13, KY . .Gorden, 16, KY * * . Anna, 60, KY (former wife, Anna PATTERSON WALKER MESSER) . Jane, 35, KY . .Martha, 2 mo's, KY 1860 Knox Co. Dwelling 597 MESSER, Edward, 44, KY . .Anora, 50, KY (Anna) . .Jane, 25, KY . .Asa J., 21, KY . .Dicia, 18, KY . .Allen, 16, KY . .Mary, 12, KY . .Richard, 10, KY His father is 3 dwellings removed: Dwelling 600 EDWARDS, Mosses, 65, b. SC . .Winna, 60 ,TN (nee GOLDEN) . Andrew, 21, KY By the time of the 1900 Knox Co. , this family is gone. Perhaps he left for Ray Co., MO as had his parents. Don't really know what happened to Gordon and Celia. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA