Donna, Is there any chance that it is actually Cooley Branch? -----Original Message----- From: Donna McDermit <dmcdermit@insightbb.com> To: kyknox@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 1:29 pm Subject: [KYKNOX] Cole Branch (possibly around Fount) The death certificate I am looking at says the individual died at Fount, KY, so I would guess he was buried somewhere in that vicinity. It states the burial place as Cole Branch. Where was this branch located in 1947 and would anyone know the names of cemeteries on the branch? Thanks, Donna Brock McDermit Greencastle, IN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYKNOX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

The death certificate I am looking at says the individual died at Fount, KY, so I would guess he was buried somewhere in that vicinity. It states the burial place as Cole Branch. Where was this branch located in 1947 and would anyone know the names of cemeteries on the branch? Thanks, Donna Brock McDermit Greencastle, IN

RESPONSE: Hello, You have provided NO dates; therefore, I am unable to establish any sort of a timeline on these folks. This is just a guess on my part: Knox Co. Marriage Book BB and C dated: October 8, 1875 HART, John F. to PHIPPS, Perncia? By: Z. MITCHELL At: C. C. HART's Wit: John E. STEEL and C. C. HART 1870 Knox Co. Dwelling 204-1-1 - Brafford's Store PHIPPS, Delly, 50, farmer, b. KY . .James T., 25, b. kY . .Margaret, 22, b. KY . .William, 21, b. KY . .Permelia, 19, b. KY * * * . .Melvina, 14, b. KY . .Chariety, 13, b. KY . .John, 11, b. KY 1870 Knox Co. Dwelling 182-2-2 HART, Hiram, 29, b. TN . .Lidda E., 29, b. TN . .America E., 1, b. TN HART, William, 45, b. NC - farmer . .Jane, 44, b. NC . .John F., 19, b. TN * * . .Peter, 17, b. TN . .Christopher, 16, b. TN . .William B., 14, b. TN . .Elizabeth J., 12, b. TN . .Rachel An, 11, b. TN . .Harvey E., 6, b. kY . .James G., 3, b. KY 1880 Knox Co. Dwelling 283-296 HART, John F., 26, head, b. TN; parents b. TN . .Perneacey, 24, wife, b. KY; father b. NC; mother b. KY . .John, 3, son, b. KY . .Stephen, 1, son, b. KY 1860 Knox Co., KY Dwelling 58 PHIPPS, Delila, 38, b. KY . .Polly Ann, 18, b. kY . .Margrett, 15, b. KY . .William, 13, b. kY . .Permecca, 12, b. KY * * . . Chariety, 8, b. KY . .John, 6, b. KY . .Melvina, 3, b. KY Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 2/2/2008 3:23:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, mfhart@grm.net writes: > My husband is descended from William Morgan HART and Rebecca HART of Knox > County. William Morgan HART was a son of John HART and Permelia MORGAN. I > have a lot of Hart information but have never been able to find much on > Permelia > MORGAN'S family. > > Does anyone on the list have any information about the ancestors of Permelia > > MORGAN? >

My husband is descended from William Morgan HART and Rebecca HART of Knox County. William Morgan HART was a son of John HART and Permelia MORGAN. I have a lot of Hart information but have never been able to find much on Permelia MORGAN'S family. Does anyone on the list have any information about the ancestors of Permelia MORGAN? Thanks for your help, Mary Hart

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Can anyone tell me who Elizabeth Smith's parents? She married Joseph Hammons he is the son of Joseph Hammons and Mary Elizabeth Payne. I found Joseph's death certificate in Garrard County and have found a few of his childrens death certificates in Garrard County, but haven't been able to figure out who Elizabeth is. Joseph Hammons Married Elizabeth Smith Feb 22, 1891 Both born Knox County He was 19 She is 14 Marriage was at the brides father's house Geo Smith. Any help? Thanks, Cassy. -- Knox Co. site address: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyknox/Knox-County-Home.html "Show me your cemeteries, and I will tell you what kind of people you have." -Benjamin Franklin

Would like to see someone else from John Wesley Bays and Sophia Alford line researching, their Daughter Mary Bays is my Husband's Grandma. Mary md William Richard Casady in 1904 Trosper Knox Co KY Barbara in OK

Wanda, I emailed you privately. Mary Siler

RESPONSE: Adding to my earlier information, this family "appears" that it could be Andy DAVIS's family: 1880 Pulaski Co., KY Dwelling 140-141 DAVIS, Baxter, head, b. KY; father b. NC; mother b. KY . .Amy, wife, b. KY . .Rachel, 17, dau, b. KY . .John, 15, son, b. KY . .Rebecca L., 15, dau, b. KY . .Andy, 13, son, b. KY * * * . .Moses, 11, son, b. KY . .Joseph M., 11, son, b. KY (twins) . .Charity H., 7, dau, b. KY HINES, Wiley, 16, b. KY - servant 1870 Pulaski Co., KY - Point Dwelling 61-61 DAVIS, Baxter, b. KY . .Amy, 35, b. KY . .E. Robert, 15, son, b. KY . .Elizabeth, 13, dau, b. KY . .Rachel, 8, dau, b. KY . .John, 5, son, b. KY . .Andrew J., 2, b. KY * * * . .Mose???, 3 months (as of Mar) . .Joseph, 3 months, (as of Mar) 1860 Pulaski Co., KY Dwelling 1035-1022 DAVIS, Baxter, 26, b. KY . .Amy, 20, b. KY . .Robert, 5, b. KY . .Elisabeth, 3, b. KY . .Mary A., 1, b. KY NOTE: This appears that it is most probably Baxter's parents living next door: Dwelling 1034-1001 DAVIS, Robert, 56, b. NC . .Elisabeth, 56, b. KY . .Sarah, 19, b. KY Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA p.s. I see on marriage records I have for Pulaski up to 1850, there is this marriage: 18 Apr 1831 DAVIS, Robt. to MARTIN, Eliz. - - John MARTIN In a message dated 1/29/2008 2:22:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, Miki5445@aol.com writes: > I have been unable to find a marriage record for my great-grandparents. I > have searched all of the records that I know about. > Their names are Andrew or Andy DAVIS and Cordelia WALKER. The date was > approximately 1887-89. > My g-grandmother would have been listed as a mulatto. My g-grandfather was > white and Indian, but was probably also listed as mulatto. He was born in > Tennessee.

NOTE: I forgot to type in that all members of this family or these two families are listed as Black persons by the census enumerator. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 1/29/2008 5:13:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, Joycetcollins@cs.com writes: > MARLOW, H. B. head, 39, Black, mar. 14 yrs, b. MO; parents b. MO - day > laborer > . .Effie A.,Black, 38, mar. 14, yrs; 1 born; 1 living, b. KY; parents b. KY > . .Thomas A., Black,10, son, b. KY > DAVIS, Andrew, Black, 34, b. Dec 1865, mar. 14 yrs, b. TN; parents b. TN - > Engineer > . . Cordelia, 30, b. KY; parents b. KY ; 6 born; 6 living, mar. 14 yrs > . . Lillie, 11, dau, b. Nov 1888, b. KY - at school > . .Daisy, 8, dau, b. 7-1891, b. KY - at school (death cert indicates she > was b. in Pulaski Co.) > . .Domma?, 6, dau, b. Jul 1893, b. KY > . .Jessie, 4, son, b. Oct 1895, b. KY > . .Willie May, dau, 2, b. Dec 1897, b. KY > . . Baby, b. May 1900 , b. KY

RESPONSE: Hello, I looked in the marriage records I have for Knox Co., Bell Co. , Laurel Co. and a partial listing I have for Whitley Co., KY and did NOT locate a marriage for them. If I had to just guess, I would say they might well have married in Pulaski Co., KY which appears to be where they lived for most of their lives. I would suggest you place a marriage look up request on the Message Board for Pulaski Co., KY. You should also contact the court clerk of Pulaski Co. to see what they can do to help you to locate their marriage there. In case you don't have the census documentation, here is what I located: 1880 Knox Co., KY - Barbourville Dwelling 125-131 WALKER, Samuel, 30, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Elizabeth, 30, b. KY . .John H., 12, son, b. KY . . Cordelia, 9, dau, b. KY . .Richard, 8, son, b. KY NOTE: All family members are listed as "M" for Mulatto. 1900 Pulaski Co., KY - Point Dwelling 93-95 MARLOW, H. B. head, 39, Black, mar. 14 yrs, b. MO; parents b. MO - day laborer . .Effie A.,Black, 38, mar. 14, yrs; 1 born; 1 living, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Thomas A., Black,10, son, b. KY DAVIS, Andrew, Black, 34, b. Dec 1865, mar. 14 yrs, b. TN; parents b. TN - Engineer . . Cordelia, 30, b. KY; parents b. KY ; 6 born; 6 living, mar. 14 yrs . . Lillie, 11, dau, b. Nov 1888, b. KY - at school . .Daisy, 8, dau, b. 7-1891, b. KY - at school (death cert indicates she was b. in Pulaski Co.) . .Domma?, 6, dau, b. Jul 1893, b. KY . .Jessie, 4, son, b. Oct 1895, b. KY . .Willie May, dau, 2, b. Dec 1897, b. KY . . Baby, b. May 1900 , b. KY 1910 Pulaski Co. , KY Dwelling 53 DAVIS, Andy, 44, head, b. KY; parrents b. TN . .Cordelia, 36, wife, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Lillian, 21, dau, b. KY . .Daisy, 19, dau, b. KY . .Domie, 15, dau , b. KY . .Jessie, son, 13, b. KY . .May, 10, dau, b. KY . .Fannie, 8, dau, b. KY .Flora, 6, dau, b. KY . .Archie, 4, son, b. KY . .Myrtle, 2, dau, b. KY . .Florence, dau, 5 months, b. KY 1930 Pulaski Co., KY Dwelling 167-169 DAVIS, Andrew, 63, mar. at 24, b. GA; parents b. GA . .Cordelia, 52, mar. at 20, b. GA; parents b. GA . .Archie, 25, b. GA . .Mildred, 17, b. GA NOTE: Obviously someone got carried away and wrote down Georgia for everything on this family. Hope this helps. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA p.s. Be sure to download the death certs I sent to you ASAP because the download doesn't last very long. In a message dated 1/29/2008 2:22:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, Miki5445@aol.com writes: > I have been unable to find a marriage record for my great-grandparents. I > have searched all of the records that I know about. > Their names are Andrew or Andy DAVIS and Cordelia WALKER. The date was > approximately 1887-89. > My g-grandmother would have been listed as a mulatto. My g-grandfather was > white and Indian, but was probably also listed as mulatto. He was born in > Tennessee. > They were probably married in or around Barbourville, where Cordelia was > born. My great-grandmother was around 15 or 16 years old at the time of the > > marriage. Andrew was older. > If anyone can help, I would appreciate it.

Mary, My grandmother Mary Jane Lawson Bays is Sarah Elizabeth "Betty" Lawson Bays' sister. Uncle Charley Bays was my dad's cousin and uncle by marriage. We always called him Uncle Charley. I was at his wake in 1951. My dad Ishmael Bays and his brother, Robert Bays, helped make his coffin that night. The last time that I saw Aunt Betty Bays was at my grandmother's funeral. Aunt Betty died 31 DEC 1977. Her death date isn't on her tombstone. Do you know who took care of her in later years? Thanks, Wanda ----- Original Message ----- From: <siler44@wildblue.net> To: <kyknox@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:52 AM Subject: [KYKNOX] Bays >I am connected to the Bays/Lawsons. My cousin Nona Wynn married first to > James Walter "Si" Bays. Si was the son of Charles Harrison Bays and Sarah > Elezabeth "Betty" Lawson. Charles was the brother of Elbert Bays who > married Phoebe Karr. When I heard the name Phoebe Bays, it rung a > bell...I had heard my dear Mommy speak of her many times. We lived at > Swan Lake in Knox County. Mary Siler > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYKNOX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I have been unable to find a marriage record for my great-grandparents. I have searched all of the records that I know about. Their names are Andrew or Andy DAVIS and Cordelia WALKER. The date was approximately 1887-89. My g-grandmother would have been listed as a mulatto. My g-grandfather was white and Indian, but was probably also listed as mulatto. He was born in Tennessee. They were probably married in or around Barbourville, where Cordelia was born. My great-grandmother was around 15 or 16 years old at the time of the marriage. Andrew was older. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it. Thank you Rosanne Miller Cleveland **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I am connected to the Bays/Lawsons. My cousin Nona Wynn married first to James Walter "Si" Bays. Si was the son of Charles Harrison Bays and Sarah Elezabeth "Betty" Lawson. Charles was the brother of Elbert Bays who married Phoebe Karr. When I heard the name Phoebe Bays, it rung a bell...I had heard my dear Mommy speak of her many times. We lived at Swan Lake in Knox County. Mary Siler

Benttree: Thank you for finding this. Yes, this is my great-grandfather and his family. Anita Bingamon At 11:10 PM 1/27/2008, you wrote: >There is a Samuel Mosely, age 6 on the 1880 census in Bell County in the >home of Jerry Mosely and Nancy Mosely. > >Census Place: Pineville, Bell, Kentucky > Source: FHL Film 1254403 National Archives Film T9-0403 Page 419A > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace >Jerry MOSELY Self M M W 53 TN > Occ: Farmer Fa: --- Mo: --- >Nancy MOSELY Wife F M W 40 TN > Occ: Keeping House Fa: --- Mo: --- >Margaret MOSELY Dau F S W 17 TN > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN >Jane MOSELY Dau F S W 14 KY > Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN >Susan MOSELY Dau F S W 9 KY > Fa: TN Mo: TN >Samuel MOSELY Son M S W 6 KY > Fa: TN Mo: TN > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KYKNOX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: >1/26/2008 3:45 PM

RESPONSE: The birth record says Calaway MOORE and Nancy BENNETT. He from Whitley; she from TN. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 1/27/2008 11:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, bobbiejunemiller@hotmail.com writes: > Does that birth record you found of Mary L > Moore list the mother's actual name, as in "Nancy Bennett/Moore", or just > "Calaway Moore and wife", as you wrote.

RESPONSE: Hello, I really cannot help you with that birth record. Just even finding the ones I did was pretty much of a fluke. KY did not begin to record births and deaths until 1911 and even then it was far from perfect for many years. However, there were some few births that did get recorded in registry (one line) format. Several years ago you had to order the microfilm from the State of KY and then find a reader perhaps at LDS to look at the records. Now days, Ancestry.com has placed these few birth records on line. I think that must be where I located it. I just looked back and the birth of Mary L. is found in two places. It is in a Vital Stats book I have for Whitley Co. that was privately transcribed. The same information is also found when I look at the actual registry style record found placed on Ancestry. In both places the parents are named as: Calaway MOORE from Whitley Co. and Nancy BENNETT from TN. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 1/27/2008 11:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, bobbiejunemiller@hotmail.com writes: > In regards to the birth record of Mary L Moore b. Dec 29, 1874: She would > not be listed on the censuses (I've seen them also) with Calaway and Nancy > Moore for the story goes she was GIVEN AWAY to an uncle, we believe to be > Sterling Moore (died in logging mishap Bell co 1877), whose widow Sarah > (Peavely) Moore is listed 1880 Knox with a 5 yr-old Mary. Would you look for > > this 1874-75 birth to this couple. If the birth is there, then it must have > been another Uncle who raised Calaway Moore's child Mary.

Joyce, I'm also working on Bays , Rose families (Elbert & Phoebe Carr Bays.and James & Stella Bays Rose) And Miphra Mosley who married a Pearlie Bays in 1912, they has a son Edward Mosley b.1913, Also Miphra died Dec 1913. I was surprised to read that someone else was also working / related on Mosley, Bays. Than what i has found about Phoebe Carr (Kerr) Bays was true, she had married after her husband Elbert Bays died in 1914? Jo > From: Joycetcollins@cs.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:18:34 -0500> To: kyknox@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [KYKNOX] Marriage lookup please-> > RESPONSE:> Hello,> > I was just looking at a death certificate for Sarah MOSLEY dated 2-6-1917 in > Knox Co. She died from pneumonia. Buried in the Tinsely Cem. Says her > parents were: Daniel ALFORD and Armilda McCABE. However, . . . they have > totally miscalculated on her date of birth. On the death cert it states she was > born: 8-7-1893 which calculates out to 23 years. This is cert #11-5093. > I can send that to you if you like. Just write and give me your e-mail > address. Based upon the fact she shows up like this on the 1910, she was more > likely born around 1874:> > Dwelling 65-65 - 1910 Knox - Artemus> MOSLEY, Samuel, 36, mar. 1, mar. 17 yrs, b. KY; parents b. TN - farmer> . .Sarah, 36, mar. 1, mar. 17 yrs, 3 born; 3 living, b. KY; father b. NC; > mother b. KY> . .Mephra, 16, son, b. KY> . .Melda J., 12, dau, b. KY> . .Della, 8, dau, b. KY> ALFORD, Melda J., 75, widow, b. KY; parents b. KY (I guess Melda is short for > Armilda in this case)> > Joyce Taylor Collins> La Palma, CA > > In a message dated 1/27/2008 10:47:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Joycetcollins@cs.com writes: > > In a message dated 1/27/2008 8:26:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > anita@bingamon.com writes: > > >He > > >was born October 9, 1873 in KY, and had married a Sarah Elizabeth > > >Alford (my great-grandmother) in 1890-1914, a Febia/Phoebe Carr Bays > > >in 1918, and a Margaret Gibson Owens Collins during the 1920 Knox Co. > > >census. Then in the 1930 Knox Co. census, a Sam Mosley and his son > > >Mipha/Miphra has a household in Artemus with a Sarah that was born > > >around 1883. Would you have this marriage license located?> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYKNOX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008

Joyce, thank you so much--you always go the extra mile, and it has been so helpful. In regards to the birth record of Mary L Moore b. Dec 29, 1874: She would not be listed on the censuses (I've seen them also) with Calaway and Nancy Moore for the story goes she was GIVEN AWAY to an uncle, we believe to be Sterling Moore (died in logging mishap Bell co 1877), whose widow Sarah (Peavely) Moore is listed 1880 Knox with a 5 yr-old Mary. Would you look for this 1874-75 birth to this couple. If the birth is there, then it must have been another Uncle who raised Calaway Moore's child Mary. In trying to understand why our ggrandparents would give away this child, my sisster and I are wondering if she may actually be illigitimate dau. of Calaway Moore and--Unknown . Does that birth record you found of Mary L Moore list the mother's actual name, as in "Nancy Bennett/Moore", or just "Calaway Moore and wife", as you wrote. This Mary was unknown to us until recent years when an elderly relative revealed the story to another cousin. This Mary was never talked about. Now we know for sure. Thank you so much. I know I'm rambling a lot, but we are so interested in knowing the truth. Regarding my original request, Eliza Jane Moore MAY have married a Monhollen, and possibly had a child named Roscoe; would you look for his birth? His 2nd marriage to my g-aunt Maudie Moore is recorded Knox co 1921, gave his parents names as Robert and Liza. Thanks for anything, Bobbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joycetcollins@cs.com> To: <kyknox@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [KYKNOX] Marriage lookup please- > RESPONSE: > Hi, > > I see Calloway MOORE with his parents on the 1850 Grainger Co., TN Fed. > Census. > I see Caloway and Nancy BENNETT MOORE on the 1870 and the 1880 Whitley Co, > KY > Fed. Census. > > Although some of the researchers did not show this child, I saw on the > early > birth records that Calloway MOORE and his wife had a child: Mary L. MOORE > b. > Dec. 20, 1874. Her death record states she died at Fayette Co., KY in > the > Eastern State Hospital on 9-24-1944. > > Since there is no 1890 Fed. Census and one would assume she had already > been > murdered by the time of the 1900 Fed. census by whoever her husband was > long > before that. Unless you know the actual name or names of ANY of her > children > in order that a surname could be searched, I haven't the slightest idea > how > you might find out more either about the former husband and/or any > children. > I looked at the marriage records in Knox Co. and did not locate anything. > Also > looked in Laurel Co. And, I checked Grainger Co., TN > > Perhaps you should make a look up posting to the Campbell Co., TN Message > Board regarding this marriage. > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > In a message dated 1/26/2008 12:55:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > bobbiejunemiller@hotmail.com writes: >> Eliza Jane Moore b. 1868 Whitley co KY (parents Calaway and Nancy Bennett >> Moore) m. possibly a Monhollen, guessing 1885 - early 1890's, and was >> killed >> acidentally by her jealous husband not many years afterward, a shotgun >> blast >> to the back at close range. haven't been able to find a trace of her >> since >> the 1880 Whitley census. >> She may have married in Campbell Co TN or even Knox county. >> any efforts to find her record is hugely appreciated, >> >> Bobbie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYKNOX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >