This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am not related so far as I know. However, this is what I see on the 1870 Knox Co.: Dwelling 65-5-5 TUCKER, J. W., 38, farmer, b. SC . .Sarah, 35, b. TN . .America, 16 (twin), b. TN * * * . .Samuel H., 16, (twin), b. TN . .William, 11, b. TN . .Thomas J., 7, b. TN Dwelling 168-9-9 FRY, Susan, 45, b. VA - farmer . .George, 17, b. KY * * . .Sarah A., 14, b. KY . .Elizabeth, 11, b. KY . .Henry G., 10, b. KY . .John C., 7, b. KY . .Matha J., 5, b. KY DICKEY, Richard, 13, b. KY 1880 Knox Co., KY Dwelling 430-450 FRY, George W., 27, head, b. KY; father b. TN; mother b. VA-shoemaker . .Susan A., 21, wife, b. TN; parents b. TN . . Nathaniel S., 5 months, son, b. KY; father b. KY; mother b. TN Dwelling 431-451 FRY, Susan, 54, head, widow, b. VA; parents b. VA . .Martha, 12, at home, dau, b. KY; father b. KY; mother b. VA Dwelling 432-432 FRY, Isaac C., 25, head, b. KY; father b. TN; mother b. Va . .Tennessee, 21, wife, b. KY; parents b. TN . .William H., 2, son, b. KY . .Mariah, 2 months, dau, b. KY Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnitaNC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Susan America Sprinkle was our great-grandmother. She married George W. Frye about 1878-1879. They raised their family in Knox County, Ky. However, our mother (1909-1989) told us that Susan Sprinkle's mother was a Tucker and also that her father was born in Virginia. I am having a hard time finding Susan's parents. I don't know her father's first name. Susan Sprinkle was born March 28, 1858 and died Nov. 18, 1915 in Grays township, Knox County, Kentucky. She is buried with her husband at Richland Cemetery, Knox Co. Kentucky. If you are also researching the Sprinkle I would be happy to share and compare notes. Thanks, Anita Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MLSopp Surnames: Collins, Frye, Johnson, Saylor, Brock, Sprinkle, Sprinkles, Blanton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anita's post included: "I'm tracing the Collins, Fryes, Johnson, Saylors, Brocks, Sprinkles & Blanton families" How are you connected to the Sprinkle(s)family? Margaret Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The History of Providence Baptist Church, Winston, Estill Co Ky 1856-1978 does mention Samuel Newman who operated a tannery and owned slaves. The 1850 census Estill County lists Samuel Newman as being age 50. He obtained a fifty acre land grant on Drowning Creek 12 Sep 1837. David and Samuel Newman bought 255 acres of land on Drowning Creek from William Burnett in the 1830's. **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

I have Rachel Newman, born Nov. 1874 Knox Co., KY who married Ephriam Jones. Her parents are Samuel & Charity Payne Newman and her grandparents are William & Jamima Payne. Is this the same family? Is it right that both father and son married Payne women. Mary Siler

Hey Gene! How have you been? I have been pretty busy here and have not been able to do much genealogy, but have cleared up some mysteries. We finally jacked up the front of the house and rebuilt the floor in the living room, tore down a wall and made a couple of closets. I am so tickled that I got two closets and am getting more as time and money allows. It will be nice to have things somewhat more organized, to say the least. My great grandmother Hall was Margaret M. Newman. She was my Gr-grandfather's second wife - she was only 17 - the age of her step daughter - when she married Thomas Richard Hall. One of the genealogists in my family says Margaret married a second time after Richard's death, but after a year, it didn't work out and she went back to the name of Hall. She was born in KY in 1861-1863 (depending on the source). My grandfather was her fourth or fifth child. Margaret's parents were John Henry Newman and Elizabeth Branstutter. I don't have very much on John Henry, except that he was born between 1828-1833, and that he was born in either KY or TN. I have only gotten as far as John Henry's father, William Newman, who was born between 1812 and 1817, in either Knox Co., KY or NC. I think at that time the state and county boundaries between SE KY and NC and the counties forming in Ky, Tn and NC probably made it a bit hard to tell where William came from. He married a Jemima Pain/Paine/Payne. I have went back pretty far back with her lineage all the way back to Oyster Bay, New York. If you want, I could send you what I have on the Paynes, Stewarts and Harrises. Anita B. At 02:02 PM 4/25/2008, you wrote: >Hi Anita, > >Which Newman's are yours? My Newman family is also from Knox County. My >line runs from William to Samuel to George to Lewis to me. > >Gene Newman > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >KYKNOX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1396 - Release Date: >4/24/2008 6:32 PM

Hi Anita, Which Newman's are yours? My Newman family is also from Knox County. My line runs from William to Samuel to George to Lewis to me. Gene Newman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WandaBHoward Surnames: Howard, Bays Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Karen, I agree with you about the book "Howards in Southeastern Kentucky". My husband's family is incorrect. His grandfather's name was listed as Charles Franklin Howard married to Lulu McHargue. His grandfather was John Franklin Howard married to Julia Ann Louthan. At least I know his parents. Karen my maiden name is Bays from Knox County, KY. Wanda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Beautiful pictures Charlotte. Thank you. Here are some pictures that I took at a cemetery at Flat Lick, Knox County, KY. We were told by a neighbor who lives nearby that it is called Williams Cemetery. _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~charlotteamiller/will iams_c emetery.htm_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~charlotteamiller/will iams_cemetery.htm) Thanks, Charlotte Miller **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYKNOX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: TAYLOR, HOWARD, CARMICAL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I really cannot positively answer your question. I have these folks in my data base. I would HIGHLY suggest you make some postings to the Harlan Co., KY Message Board. There are numerous HOWARD researchers on that Board. On the 1930 Harlan Co. Dwelling 158-160 HOWARD, Dewey, 32, mar. at 26, b. 1898, b. KY - coal mine laborer . .Mary, 22, mar. at 17, b. KY I don't see any children for this Mary FRYE having HOWARD children on the KBI. Sometimes that means nothing though. At the same time, here is what I do see: These are HOWARD children born to maiden name, Rosa/Rose MOWERY in Harlan Co., KY HOWARD, John D. b. 7-14-1927 HOWARD, Inez b. 7-17-1931 HOWARD, Delores b. 7-31-1936 HOWARD, Norma L. b. 8-29-1933 This is most probably that Rosa Lee MOWERY. She was born to Nancy HILL on 4-22-1915 in Whitley Co., KY Vol. 41, Cert 20447 There were a number of Dewey HOWARDS in Harlan Co. so perhaps this was a different one. Having said that, I do have another interesting connection to Cornelia CARMICAL (various spellings). SEE BELOW 1880 Harlan Co. Fed. Census Dwelling 113-113 NOTE: Not for sure but, this could be the family CARMICHAEL's Lucy married:???? CARMICHAEL, Isaac, 49, b. NC . . Elizabeth, 53, b. NC, wife . . Cornelia, 16, b. NC, dau . . Sanders L., 15, b. NC, son * * * STEWART, Isaac, 9, b. kY - no relationship given . . Did?, female, 7, b. KY " " " . . George, 3, b. KY " " " Lucy Howard Taylor Carmicheal is buried at the Pineville Cemetery, Pineville, Kentucky. Lucy's death certificate viewed at the Bell Co. Health Dept. shows that her parents were Daniel HOWARD and Clarinda CHAPPELL HOWARD. SEE CARMICAL , Sanders for the 1900 Harlan Co. Fed. Census 1920 Bell Co. Fed. Census Dwelling 109-110 - Cary Precinct #8 CARMICAL, Samuel L.?, 55, b NC; parents b. NC, occup: blacksmith and coal miner . . Lucy, wife, 46, b. KY; parents b. KY; occuP general farmer (this is Lucy HOWARD TAYLOR) . . Clay, son, 17, b. KY; father b. NC; mother b. VA, coal mine driver (S. L.'s son) LOCK, America, "stepdau", 20, b. KY (America TAYLOR LOCK) . . Walter "son-in-law", 24 IDOL, Dora, "sister-in-law", 37 (not sure who this is) The Cornelia CARMICAL b. NC who was married to Samuel HOWARD (who traces back to my James B. HOWARD and Nancy BALL, my ggg-grandparents) was the SISTER to Sanders CARMICAL who married Lucy HOWARD (dau. of Daniel HOWARD). Lucy HOWARD was married in the fall of 1895 to the much older Harrison TAYLOR who was my g-grandfather b. 1836; shot and killed in 1904. They had 3 children who were half siblings to my grandfather, Garrett TAYLOR b. 1872; d. 1954 in Bell Co., KY. It is a small world, is it not? Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnitaNC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joyce You mentioned the Howard family. I am also tied in to that one. One of our Aunts (maiden name: Mary Frye) married George Dewey Howard (1898-1982. He was the son of Samuel Howard (1864-1911) and wife Cornelia Carmical. However, on One World Tree, someone has posted that Dewey was married to Rosa Lea Mowery. I've never heard of this and perhaps it is a different Dewey Howard. Nevertheless, this information was given to me by my mother-in-law and Dewey Howard is her brother-in-law. If you have anything further on this or know of any corrections I need to make, please feel free to advise. Anita Collins Wages Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bluecat4u Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have found findagrave.com very helpful. Here's a link to help assist you. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=csr&CScn=flat lick&CScntry=4&CSst=19 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

RESPONSE: Hello, I am not related to this family so far as I know, however, I did a little investigating for you and will just give you what I see. You can make the final determinations or perhaps it will help you to gather some more documentation: MARRIAGE RECORD from my Knox Co. marriage books sold by the now defunct Knox Co. Genealogical Society: June 11, 1887 Groom - lst marriage Bride - lst marriage at: Thomas SMITH HAMPTON, John Will, age 18 born: Knox Co. father: not listed mother: not listed but states she was from Rockcastle Co., KY to: SMITH, Ellen, 18, no other information on the marriage record As of the 1880 Knox Co., there is this listing: Dwelling 234-236 HAMPTON, James, 33, head, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Martha, 28, wife, b. IN; parents b. KY . .R. T., 14, at home, dau, b. KY . .John W., 8, son, b. KY * * * . .Mary M., 7, dau, b. KY . .Barbara E., 5, dau, b. KY . .Allis, 3, dau, b. KY . .George R., 1, son, b. KY Now, going back to the 1870 Knox Co., KY: Dwelling 169-5-5, HAMPTON, James H., 24, b. KY - farmer . .Martha, 19, b. KY . .Rebecca J., 3, b. KY . .John N., 1, b. KY STEWART, Martha, 44, b. KY NOTE: Assuming it is correct from his marriage record that he was born in Knox Co., this John N. fits perfectly. The listing above is from my transcribed books of census. When I looked at the actual microfilm, it is actually difficult to read the middle initial of the John HAmPTION, the one year old in this family. I tend to think that he was actually a John W. As for the 1860 Knox Co., KY, there is only one family in Knox Co. that James could be a part of. His age is off but that sort of thing happens all of the time due to lack of good record keeping and lack of education. I have no way to know at this point if this would be the correct James HAMPTON because he simply could have arrived from elsewhere: Dwelling 698 HAmPTON, Joel, 33, b. TN . .Nancy, 30, b. KY . .Lotta, 13, b. KY . .John, 11, b. KY . .Malinda, 9, b. KY . .James, 7, b. KY * * . .Lewis, 4, b. KY . .Darthula, 2, b. KY . .William, 2 months, b. KY NOTE: When you go forward to the 1870 Knox Co., Nancy HAMPTON seems to be widowed or at least no husband is present. James, age 17 is still in the household. Therefore, although they might be related, this is a DIFFERENT family. 1900 Knox Co., KY Dwelling 219-222 HAMPTON, John W., head, b. 10-1870, 29, mar. "7" years, b. KY; parents b. KY - day laborer . .Mary, b. 9-1874, mar. 7 yrs, 3 born; 3 living, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Viola, dau, b. 5-1895, 5, b. KY . .Mattie S., dau, b. 10-1896, 3, b. KY . .Cris, son, b. 7-1899, 10 months, b. KY NOTE: Here is the "2nd" marriage for this John W. HAmPTON as follows: Knox Co. Marriage Book V dated Aug 10, 1893, Page 7 HAMPTON, J. W., 22, 2nd marriage, farmer father: James H. HAMPTON mother: Martha HAmPTON at: Tom LOCKARD; Wit: Henry CANNON and Mat COLE; by: N. M. PCIKARD L. M. COLE, bondsman to: Mary A. LOCKARD, age 21, Res. Knox Co., KY; lst marriage; father: Thos. LOCKARD; mother: Mariah LOCKARD In a different area on the 1900 Knox Co. at Poplar Creek: Dwelling 50-50 HAmPTON, Will, head, b. 11-1874, 325, mar. 5 yrs, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Mary E., wife, b. 3-1877, 23, mar. 5 yrs, 2 born; 2 living, b. KY . . Roxy E., dau, b. 9-1895, 4, b. KY . .Ada, dau, b. 3-1898, 2, b. KY MACKEY, Elias, father-in-law, b. 3-1818, 82, widow, disabled, b. KY; father b. TN; mother b. KY . .Alice, dau, b. 16, single, b. KY . .Alex, son, 17, b. KY . .Ben F., son, 14, b. KY . .Luther, son, 9, b. KY . .China, dau, 7, b. KY Right now I am not really seeing this Henderson HAmPTON so will get back to you on that. Not sure I found all of this family or the correct one. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 4/23/2008 7:27:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sandyc0324@comcast.net writes: > Does anyone have any information on a John Will Hampton born about 1869 in > Knox County? > > Here is what I do know: > > > > He married Ellen Smith on 11 Jun 1887 in Knox County. > > He had a son named Henderson Hampton born 17 Sep 1891 and died 8 Oct 1970. > > Henderson married Barbara Lee on 20 May 1920 in Knox County. They had 16 > children that I know of, (all born in Knox County) so I am hoping that > someone might know about John Will's ancestors. > > > > Any help would be most appreciated. If you have any info you can contact me > direct at: > > sandyc0324@comcast.net > > >

Could someone please direct me to early census records since so many changes have been made at Rootsweb. I'm looking for the 1830 and 1840 census of Knox, Laurel, and Whitley counties. Thanks very much, Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KarenBays15 Surnames: Howards Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Personally I would not recommend the book; Howards of Southeastern Kentucky. I have found more mistakes and messes in this book then can be counted. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: HOWARD, SERGENT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Wanda, Thank you for thinking of me. I have their childen. I have a copy of the book. A few years back, I was able to visit the graves of William Martin SERGENT and Elizabeth Ann HOWARD SERGENT in the cemetery at Rosspoint. I believe the cemetery is called the Howard Cemetery. It was nicely maintained and sat up in an elevated area. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WandaBHoward Surnames: Howard, Ball and Sergent Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joyce, I don't know if you have this information from "The Howards in Southeastern Kentucky". Your William Martin Sergent is listed in the following family: James B. Howard & Nancy Ball 1. Elizabeth A. Howard, b. 1841, m. 23 Feb 1858 Harlan, William Martin Sergent, b. 1842, son of Ephraim Sergent & Deborah. James B. and Nancy Ball Howard have 11 more children listed, if you are interested. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Does anyone have any information on a John Will Hampton born about 1869 in Knox County? Here is what I do know: He married Ellen Smith on 11 Jun 1887 in Knox County. He had a son named Henderson Hampton born 17 Sep 1891 and died 8 Oct 1970. Henderson married Barbara Lee on 20 May 1920 in Knox County. They had 16 children that I know of, (all born in Knox County) so I am hoping that someone might know about John Will's ancestors. Any help would be most appreciated. If you have any info you can contact me direct at: sandyc0324@comcast.net Thank you, Sandy Collester

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, So happy about your great day today in finding Britton "Brit" JOHNSON. Cassy is the greatest. Great to call her a cousin of mine. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnitaNC Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.knox/9325.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cassy, Thank you so much. This is it! So many years I've been searching for his grave. Thanks for your online website and all the work you put into it. For people like me, who live too far away to get to these cemeteries (I live in Western NC) this is a blessing. Anita Collins NC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.