Hi list, I could use a little help here. Looking for ANY information concerning Arthur Means , or his son, William Means, William, b, ca,1854, Clay County- moved to Flat Lick and ran a store, owned 7 houses. I would like to know where they are buried, and see if I have any Cousins out there! Thanks , Katie k.t@core.com

Hi, I am trying to find information on Lucy and Frank Davis. They lived on Log Mountain, Bell County, Kentucky, before 1947, and had my great great grandfather, Clinton Hooker living with them at one point. Does anyone know anything about them? Thank you, Charlotte Miller

From The Corbin News Journal on line 21 Aug 2002 Ella Mae Lawson, 76, Louden Road, Williamsburg, Hettie Rains, 82, Audrey Hill Chaffins, 58, Huber Heights, Ohio Eva Jeanette Hubbs Manes, 37, Whetstone Church Road, Williamsburg, Andrew Faulkner, 97, Little Patterson Creek Road, Williamsburg, Hallie R. Helton, 91, Woodbine, Timothy Paul Dudley, 46, Lily, Paul Overbey, 66, Gray, Elizabeth S. Harris, 97, Corbin Brandon Lee Clayton Douglas, Randall Heath Davis, 29, Hamilton, Ohio, Elmer Hale, Williamsburg, Burl Kelsay, 65, Corbin, Pauline Cox, 78, Rockholds, Ella Walters Bingham, 92, formerly of Corbin, Howard W. Karr, 88, Keavy, ====================================================== From The Corbin News Journal On Line 21 Aug 2002 Ella Mae Lawson, 76, Louden Road, Williamsburg, (Mulberry Community), passed away Friday, August 16, 2002 at Central Baptist Hospital in Lexington. She was a member of the Mulberry Community Church. Survivors include two daughters, Glenda Lawson Wilson of Williamsburg and Brenda Aileen Lawson Atchison and husband, James of Dayton, Ohio; two sons, Glennis Lawson and fiancee, Mossella White of Williamsburg and Darrell Lawson and fiancee, Carolyn Anderson of Williamsburg; seven grandchildren, Michael Noble and fiancee, Peggy Cox, Jimmy Atchison, Jeffery Atchison, Mark Lawson, Glenna Lawson, Alicia Lawson, and Jonathon Elliott; two step-grandchildren, Laura Young and Kristy Young; two great-grandchildren, Justin Noble and Jeremy Noble; one sister, Della Marie Powers of Louden Road, Williamsburg; one brother, Bennie Wayne Smith of Williamsburg. She was preceded in death by her parents, Samuel Claude and Rhoda Hamblin Smith; her husband, Emerson Lawson; and a grandson, Darrell Lawson, Jr. Funeral services were held Monday, August 19 at the Jones & Son Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Jerome McCullah and Rev. Bart Powers officiating. Burial followed in the Carr Cemetery at Yaden. Pallbearers were B.J. Gerald, Jeffrey Atchison, Mike Powers, Glen Cornett, Jonathan Taylor, Matthew Taylor, Travis Tiller, and Brian Lawson. Jones & Son Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Hettie Rains, 82, passed away Monday, August 19, 2002 at home. She was predeceased by her husband of 40 years, R.D. Rains, by her parents, Tom Henry and Martha Lawson, and by three sisters. Hettie was a life-long, faithful Christian, and a member of the First Baptist Church Williamsburg, where she taught the Fidelis Sunday School class for 45 years. Hettie was a graduate of the St. Paul Bible College, St. Paul, Minnesota, and Cumberland College in Williamsburg. She taught in the Whitley County School System for 32 years. Hettie is the precious mother of four children, Tom Rains and his wife, Debbie of Williamsburg, George Rains of Atlanta, Georgia, Bobbie Brown and her husband, Bill of Kodak, Tennessee, and Martha White and her husband, Glenn of Moundsville, West Virginia, and the cherished grandmother of nine grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. Loving sisters and brothers, Thelma Chinn and Pruda Mosley of Williamsburg, George Lawson of Pine Knot, Richard Lawson of Zephyrhills, Florida; and many nieces, nephews, and loving friends and neighbors also survive Hettie. Hettie had many interests in life. She was a published poet. She loved her flower gardens, her many church activities and she led an active prayer life praying intercessory prayer each day for friends, family and other concerns. Hettie's faith was a great testimony to everyone who knew her, and she touched many lives with her devotion to Jesus and her belief in Him. Her great faith sustained her and her family during these last months of her life and her brave battle with cancer. Due to the renovations of the sanctuary of First Baptist Church, funeral services will be held at the Ellison Funeral Home Chapel on Wednesday, August 21 at 11:00 a.m. with Reverend Harold Mauney officiating. Burial will follow in the Highland Cemetery. Memorial contributions may be made to First Baptist Church, 230 South 5th Street, Williamsburg, KY 40769 or Tri-County Hospice, PO Box 395, London, KY 40743. Ellison Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Audrey Hill Chaffins, 58, Huber Heights, Ohio, passed away Monday, August 12, 2002 at the Good Samaritan Hospital in Dayton, Ohio. Survivors include three daughters, Mary Ann Faulkner and husband, Mark of Dayton, Ohio, Betty Cochran and husband, Jim of Vandalia, Ohio, and Elizabeth Vanderpool of Huber Heights, Ohio; five grandchildren, Amy Daigle and husband, Brett, Michael Faulkner, Tyler Cochran, Haley Cochran and Kayla Zagula; one great-grandson, Brian Daigle; father, Cecil Hill of Williamsburg; two brothers, Randal Hill of Huber Heights, Ohio and Terry Hill of Huber Heights, Ohio; also several aunts, uncles, and a host of other relatives and friends to mourn her passing. She was preceded in death by her husband, Bob Chaffins; her mother, Mary Edna Partin Hill; and a brother, Birchell Hill. Funeral services were held Friday, August 16 at the Croley Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Pete Fields officiating. Burial was in the Partin Cemetery. Croley Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Eva Jeanette Hubbs Manes, 37, Whetstone Church Road, Williamsburg, passed away Sunday, August 11, 2002 at the University of Tennessee Medical Center in Knoxville. Survivors include her husband, Terry Wayne Manes of Bee Creek Road, Corbin; one daughter, Jessica RaeLynn Paul of Whetstone Church Road, Williamsburg; one son, Justin Paul of Williamsburg; her mother, Iva Hubbs of Whetstone Church Road, Williamsburg; two sisters, Juanita Bargo of Whetstone Church Road, Williamsburg and Carol Hubbs of Seymour, Indiana; one brother, Don Hubbs of Cincinnati, Ohio; two step-daughters, Terri Beth Manes of Jonestown and Tabatha Nicole Bingham of Jonestown; one step-grandchild, Haven Cheyene Bingham of Jonestown; also several nieces, nephews, and other relatives and friends to mourn her passing. She was preceded in death by her father, Steely Hubbs. Funeral services were held Thursday, August 15 at the Croley Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Lowell Huddleston and Rev. Jimmy Siler officiating. Burial was in the Whetstone Cemetery. Pallbearers were Shannon Wynn, Joe Allen Fuson, Paul Hubbs, Scott Johnson, David Lanham, Mack Carnes, Dewey Fuson and Neal Wynn. Croley Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Andrew Faulkner, 97, Little Patterson Creek Road, Williamsburg, passed away Friday morning, August 16, 2002 at his home. He was a deacon and member of the Nevisdale Baptist Church and a member of the United Mine Workers Union (UMWA) and a Kentucky Colonel. Survivors include five daughters, Jeree McCain and husband, Harold of Lebanon, Ohio, Barbara Lee and husband, Charlie of Hebron, Ohio, Mary Magaline Young and husband, Jim of Mainville, Ohio, Sandra Mahan and husband, Rev. Lee of Williamsburg, and Shirley Faulkner of Williamsburg; seven sons, Chester Faulkner and wife, Harolyne of Williamsburg, Fred Faulkner and wife, Eunice of Bronston, Howard Faulkner of Bronston, Ralph Faulkner and wife, Sharolett of Mason, Ohio, Jessie Faulkner of Williamsburg, Ronnie Faulkner and wife, Novella of Williamsburg, and Michael Faulkner and wife, Kim of Williamsburg; 34 grandchildren, 58 great-grandchildren and six great-great-grandchildren; two sisters, Daisy Goins of Williamsburg and Opal Bruce of Meadow Creek; also several nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by a daughter, Andrea Fay Faulkner; two daughters-in-law, Nadine Faulkner and Terry Huddleston Faulkner. Funeral services were held Sunday, August 18 at the Nevisdale Baptist Church with Rev. Arnold Petrey and Rev. Lee Mahan officiating. Burial was in the Faulkner Cemetery. Croley Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Hallie R. Helton, 91, Woodbine, passed away Sunday afternoon, August 18, 2002 at the Rockcastle Hospital in Mt. Vernon. She was a member of the Meadow Creek Baptist Church. Survivors include two daughters, Sue Hunter of New Zion Road, Williamsburg and Faye Allen and husband, Jim of Hwy. 26, Corbin; five sons, Jack Miller and wife, Marie of Cincinnati, Ohio, Bill Miller and wife, Geneva of Norwood, Ohio, Lewis Miller and wife, Eldrada of Rockholds, J.P. Miller and wife, Liz of Goshen, Ohio, and Cliff Miller and wife, Norma of Rockholds; several grandchildren and several great-grandchildren; one step-daughter, Wilma Terrell of the Meadow Creek Community, Rockholds; five step-sons, Raymond (Jim) Helton of Rockholds, Norman (Pete) Helton of Cumberland Falls Road, Williamsburg, Ralph (Curley) Helton and wife, Lela of Corbin, Ray (Monk) Helton of Rockholds and Paul Helton of Rockholds; one sister-in-law, Ada Henderson of Corbin; also several nieces, nephews and a host of other relatives and friends to mourn her passing. She was preceded in death by her husband, Charlie Helton; two sons, Lonnie Clifton Miller and Dwayne Helton; and a step-son, Billy Helton. Funeral services were held Tuesday, August 20 at the Croley Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Harvey Logan and Rev. Dale Phipps officiating. Burial was in the Broyles Cemetery in Rockholds. Croley Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Timothy Paul Dudley, 46, Lily, passed away Wednesday, August 14, 2002 at his home. He was a 1973 graduate of Corbin High School and served in the U.S. Air Force. Survivors include his wife, Vicki A. Dudley; his parents, C.H. and Juanita Dudley of Corbin; a sister, LaFonda Mauldin of Zebulon, North Carolina; a brother, Philip Dudley of St. Matthews; a niece, Stephanie Bentley of St. Petersburg, Florida; Vicki's parents, Waneth Combs of Corbin and J. Bart Amburgy of Berea; Botsey Amburgy and his family; Bobby and Betsy Allen and their family. He was the father of the late Marc Anthony Dudley. A private service was held at the Cumberland Memorial Gardens Mausoleum with Brother John Gill officiating. Memorial contributions may be given to the First Christian Church of Barbourville or Corbin. O'Neil Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Paul Overbey, 66, Gray, passed away Thursday, August 15, 2002 at the University of Louisville Medical Center. His wife, Shirley Owens Overbey, survives. Funeral services were held August 18 at the Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Brent Carroll officiating. Burial was in the Cumberland Memorial Gardens by Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home. Elizabeth S. Harris, 97, Corbin, passed away Saturday, August 17, 2002 at the Christian Health Center. A daughter, Mary Jaynes, is among her survivors. Funeral services were held August 20 at the Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home Chapel with Brothers Larry Smith and David Scott officiating. Burial was in the Smith Cemetery by the Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home. Brandon Lee Clayton Douglas, infant son of Virgil Douglas Jr. and Stacy Combs Douglas of Williamsburg, passed away Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at the Baptist Regional Medical Center. Funeral services were held August 16 at the Croley Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Fred Powers and Rev. Kenneth Rickett officiating. Burial was in the Highland Park Cemetery, Croley Addition by the Croley Funeral Home. Randall Heath Davis, 29, Hamilton, Ohio, passed away Sunday, August 18, 2002 at Jellico Creek Road, Williamsburg. His father, Carson Davis of Williamsburg, survives. Visitation will be August 21 after 6 p.m. at Ellison Funeral Home. Funeral services will be held August 22 at 11 a.m. in the chapel of the funeral home. Burial will follow in the Piney Grove Cemetery by Ellison Funeral Home. Elmer Hale, Williamsburg, passed away Wednesday, August 14, 2002 in LaFollette, Tennessee. Funeral services were held August 17 at the Ellison Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Clyde Pence and Rev. Ralph Engle officiating. Burial was in the Little Wolf Creek Cemetery by Ellison Funeral Home. Burl Kelsay, 65, Corbin, passed away Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at Baptist Regional Medical Center. Two sisters survive. Funeral services were held August 17 at the Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Robert King officiating. Burial was in the Hart Cemetery by Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home. Pauline Cox, 78, Rockholds, passed away Wednesday, August 14, 2002 at The Heritage Nursing Home in Corbin. Her husband, Glenn Cox, survives. Funeral services were held August 16 at the Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Darvin Wells officiating. Burial followed in the Cumberland Memorial Gardens by Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home. Ella Walters Bingham, 92, formerly of Corbin, passed away in Northern Kentucky on Monday, August 12, 2002. She was the widow of Roy S. Bingham. Graveside services were held August 15 at the Worley Cemetery by O'Neil Funeral Home. Howard W. Karr, 88, Keavy, passed away Friday, August 16, 2002 at his home. He was the husband of the late Zola M. Karr. Funeral services were held August 19 at the Locust Grove Christian Church with Bro. Tommy Lanham and Bro. David Maltzan officiating. Burial was in the Locust Grove Cemetery by Hart Funeral Home. ===================================================== "Genealogy is like playing hide and seek: they hide...I seek!!!" www.byrge.com/genealogy/ Searching: BYRGE, BUNCH, DAUGHERTY, DUNCAN, KENNEDY, PATTERSON, PHILLIPS, SEIBER, TACKETT, WARD. =====================================================

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: jones, Rose Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5023 Message Board Post: I am looking for info on Wiley Jones and wife Delilah Rose. they had a daughter Mary Jane Jones who married my great grandfather thomas Jones. Looking for info on Wiley Jones and ancestors. Thanks Sandra Jones-Woods

Posted on Thu, Aug. 22, 2002 By Compiled By Jennifer Hewlett BARBOURVILLE - BERADEAN GIBSON, 44, Dalton, Ga., formerly of Knox County, former manager of Mattress Factory Outlet in Dalton, wife of David Gibson, died Monday. Services 2 p.m. Friday, Hopper Funeral Home. Visitation noon today, 10 a.m. Friday. Contributions suggested to American Cancer Society. ===================================================== "Genealogy is like playing hide and seek: they hide...I seek!!!" www.byrge.com/genealogy/ Searching: BYRGE, BUNCH, DAUGHERTY, DUNCAN, KENNEDY, PATTERSON, PHILLIPS, SEIBER, TACKETT, WARD. =====================================================

Can anyone help me to figure out which family Amos belongs to? Who is John Will Mills parents and Nannie Mills parents? Thanks, Cassy. AMOS MILLS, 75, of Gray, was born on June 20, 1927 to the late John Will Mills and Nannie Mills at Stinking Creek. Mr. Mills passed away in the Corbin Nursing Home, Saturday, July 27, 2002. He was a member of the Mount Pleasant Baptist Church. Mr. Mills worked for the Chrysler Automobile Corporation before retiring. On December 20, 1948, he united in marriage to Maudie Swafford and to this union two dear children were born. He was preceded in death by his wife, Maudie, his daughter, Brenda S. Luker; sister, Evie Hensley; brother, H.T. Mills; sister-in-law, Martha Mills and brothers-in-law, Otis Swafford, Lester Broughton and Ted Stewart. Surviving Mr. Mills, his son, Rodney Mills and wife Wanda of Gray; his grandchildren, Steve and wife Nina, Chrissy and beloved companion, Jim, Shannon and Minda; a great grandson, Nolan Reilly; his son-in-law, Danny Luker of Centerline, Michigan; his sisters, Susie Mills of Stinking Creek, Sallie Broughton of the Turkey Creek Community, Axie Mills and husband Mark and Elizabeth Mills and husband Russell, all of Knox county, Kentucky; his brothers, Arnold Mills, Ralph Mills and wife Ruth and Carl Mills and wife Irene, all of Gray; his sisters-in-law, Letha Stewart of Manchester, Kentucky, Betty Sue Mills of Corbin, and Geneva Swafford of Manchester; his brothers-in-law, Hobart Swafford and wife Lizzie and John Hubbard Jr. and wife Idie, all of Clay County, Kentucky. Funeral services for Amos Mills were conducted in the Hopper Funeral Home Chapel, Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 11 a.m. with the Rev. Garrett Garland and the Rev. Mark Mills officiating. Interment was in the Gray Cemetery. Pallbearers were grandsons: Steve Mills and Jim Gouin and family members, Pat Frederick, Leon Mills, Preston Mills and Toby Miller. Honorary pallbearers were all staff at Corbin Nursing Home and all staff at Baptist Regional Medical Center in Corbin. Hopper Funeral Home was in charge of all arrangements. --

From McMinn Co, TN Deed abstracts: 155 4 Jun 1831 Martha, William H., Sarah M. Polly Ann C., Catherine .M., Margaret and James Bell, heirs of Robert Bell dec'd to Elijah Reese of Morgan Co. Joyce Gaston Reece Rootsweb Mail Administer for: Meigs Co, TN, South East TN, North East TN, Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath,Hemby, Hembree, Knuckles Message Board Administrator for: Gaston, Shields, Reece, Raper, Gilbreath, Galbreath, Hemby Hembree, Knuckles, Daugherty & Polk Co., TN

Can someone straighten me out. i am quite mixed up. There are two Larkin Hubbards one born 1847 and one born 1834. One of these Larkins Married Sarah Merida/Meredith one married Martha Jane Jackson and one married Rebecca Gambrel. Can anyone tell me who married who and who do the children belong to. This isn't my direct line and I ran into someone who is the great granddaughter of Larkin and Martha, but she doesn't know a whole lot of the children so I'm struggling to seperate who belongs to who. Thanks, Cassy. --

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LEE,BLANKENSHIP,SINGELTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/5002.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hazel, I am searching for information about William Thomas Lee, born in Knox Co. ca: 1862. Wife: Alice Blankenship. Was your James Lee from Knox Co?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5022.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: First, thank you again for all your help! My understanding of census taking is that although it is listed as being 1880, it could actually have been conducted during the later part of the previous year. Even if it was done during the spring of 1880, Ellis was born in August so it could possibly have been completed before his birth. The only reason I am confident of his date of birth and birth place is that his wife Lura (known to all as Lurie), had it in her Bible. Now, I realize that could still be incorrect, but I think odds are it was accurate. Unfortunately, she did not list his parents, only hers. I have done some more checking and I have the following information on some of Ellis' siblings, although I'm not certain how accurate some of the dates are: Charity b. 2/1877 d. 4/1950 mar. Kit York Riley b. 5/1884 d. 5/1960 mar. 1st Lola Jones had six children, when she died, he married her sister Nola and had eleven children. George b. 1878 d. 1960 John - I have no information other than at some point in time, Ellis and Lurie adopted his daughter Ethel. I am doubtful that the Sterling Rose family is mine because it does not list Charity and the age for George is about five years off. It would seem they moved around quite often, so I guess I'll keep digging. It's possibly they could have been in Whitley County just prior to Ellis' birth, then moved to Knox. Again, thank you!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5022.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, The only married family appearing on the 1880 Knox is as follows: I suspect these could be the parents. They are not there as of 1870, however. The reason I think it could be them is that his mother's name was Clarindy/Clarinda and in one of the later census, one of the dau.'s of Ellis ROSE was named Clara. Dwelling 393-399 ROSE, Sterling M., 36, husband, mar., b. KY; parents b. KY . Clarindy, 33, wife, mar. b. KY; father b. TN; mother b. KY . Mariam, 13, at home, dau, KY . James A. B., 11, farms, son, KY . Richard S.,9, son, KY . George M. A., 7, son, KY . Sarah A., 5, dau, KY . Rachel M., 2, dau, Ky NOTE: Just about time that another child would have been due!!! My thinking was that the birth date was off a bit, either later in the year after the census was taken or something like that. The later census records seem to bear that out, although one cannot depend upon census records to be correct either. There was no much illiteracy and lack of general recordkeeping. Birthdates can vary all over the place. Tombstone dates are also not accurate at times. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

From The Knoxville News Sentinel 21 Aug 2002 BEGLEY, JILL - age 45, of Knoxville, Tenn., formerly of Corbin, Ky., passed away suddenly Monday, August 19, 2002, at Fort Sanders Parkwest Medical Center in Knoxville, Tenn. Jill was the daughter of the late, James L. and Gladys E. Begley, Jr. She is survived by two brothers, James L. Begley and James L. Begley III, and a niece, Macy C. Begley, and sister-in-law, Susan C. Begley, all of Corbin. She is also survived by her best friend, Suzanne Beard of Knoxville, and by many loving friends in Knoxville, Lexington, Corbin and co-workers of Quest Diagnostics in Knoxville, Tenn. Jill was inducted into the Corbin High School Hall of Fame for basketball. She will be truly missed by all whose life she touched. Funeral service will be 10:00 a.m. Friday, August 23, 2002, at the O'Neil Funeral Home with Bro. C. H. Dudley officiating and burial will be in the Pine Hill Cemetery. Visitation will be 5 to 7 p.m. Wednesday, August 21, 2002, at Rose Mortuary Mann Heritage Chapel, 6200 Kingston Pike, in Knoxville, and 6 to 9 p.m. Thursday, August 22, 2002, at the O'Neil Funeral Home in Corbin, Ky., at 204 N. Kentucky St. O'Neil Funeral Home, in charge of arrangements. ===================================================== "Genealogy is like playing hide and seek: they hide...I seek!!!" www.byrge.com/genealogy/ Searching: BYRGE, BUNCH, DAUGHERTY, DUNCAN, KENNEDY, PATTERSON, PHILLIPS, SEIBER, TACKETT, WARD. =====================================================

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5022.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Your Ellis Rose is listed with a Hammons family in 1900 in Whitley Co, KY, Woodbine Precinct, ED 138, Sheet 23... as a hired hand. This record states that he was then 19 and that he was born in Aug, 1880... which explains why he was not in the 1880 census. If you are sure that he was born in Knox Co. I guess your best bet is to look for a young childless couple by the name of Rose or a growing Rose family there that had a child about 2 years... as Ellis may have been ready to appear there very shortly... and focus your search on that family. Elaine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5022.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I am not directly related. Just doing a look-up for you. Again, he is NOT on the 1880 Knox Co. Perhaps his parents moved prior to the 1880. Don't really know. I can tell you where he was as of 1910 and 1920. 1910 Knox Co. Dwelling 0023, Enum. Dist: 0113 ROSE, Ellis, 30, b. KY, husband . Turie A., wife, 28, b. KY . Travis J., 8, b. KY . John, 6, no birth place recorded . Cordelia, 3, b. KY . Bertha C., no age recorded, b. KY HAMMONDS, Green B., 58, father-in-law 1920 Knox Co. Dwelling 287-287 Enum. Dist: 129 - Wilton ROSE, Ellis, 40, b. KY; father b. TN; mother b. KY . Lura, wife, 33, b. KY, parents b. TN . John, son, 16 . Cordie, dau, 12 . charlie, son, 8 . Clara, dau, 5 yrs, 11 mo's . Riley, son, 2 yrs, 11 mo's Also, I see that Ellis ROSE died July 6, 1949; lived and died in Bell Co., KY; Vol. 27, Cert #13156 NOTE: I would suggest you order his death record which hopefully will list his parents' names. Go to: http://www.google.com . Type in the name: Chester Ward . Mr. Ward only charges $1.50 per certificate for the records he gets for you. Much less expensive than ordering from the State. I think this is the same Green HAMMONS as of 1900 Knox: he is a boarder, b. 12-1852, age 47, divorced, farm laborer and living in the home of Fielding HAMMONS, age 52, and wife, Susan. Good luck in your search. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5022.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for such a prompt reply. Yes, I am positive he was born in Knox County, Kentucky. No, I do not know his parents names, that is why I was trying to locate a census with him on it. I do know he married Lura Hammon(d)s in Whitley County, KY then at some point, moved to Bell County. As to Ellis being a nickname, I really wouldn't know. That is the name on his tombstone in Pineville cemetary, and all relatives have only ever referred to him as Ellis, so I am assuming that is his legal name.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5022.1 Message Board Post: Hello, There is NO Ellis ROSE of any age or similiar spelling as of the 1880 Knox Co. The 1890 Fed. Census, in most all cases, was destroyed and does not exist for Knox Co., KY. As of the 1900, there is no Ellis ROSE listed. Are you sure it was Knox Co., KY and not perhaps some other state??? Or, it may have been one of the nearby KY counties. In any case, perhaps if you come back to this posting or your original posting and add in any other information you have such as where he grew up, his wife, his children, where they all lived, perhaps someone can be of further help. When and where did he die? Who were his parents? What is YOUR relationship to this Ellis ROSE? Is it possible he had some other name. As an example, could he have been a William "Ellis" ROSE or an Ambrose "Ellis" ROSE. These are just examples and not actual listings I have seen. As of the 1880 Knox there is no ROSE family listed with any child of 1 - 3 years of age who is a male. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

Can anyone identify the Parents of Helen Messer b. 4-5-1922 d. 4 7 1993? I have recently been told that she had a brother by the name of Dempsy Messer he may have also been known as "Chick" he was married to Lucille Disney and Elsie Brock. Thanks. Cassy. --

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rose Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5022 Message Board Post: I am searching for Ellis Rose, born 8/30/1879 in Know County. Any information would be greatly appreciate!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5021.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I had hoped there was a possibility of your George B. HALE being the George HALE in Knox Co. early on. However, I don't believe that is now true. A George or George W. (depending upon the census year) appears in Knox Co. from 1850 through 1880. He is the son of T. J. HALE and a Barbara MARLOW (I think). She is a widow by 1870. On the 1850, there is a George W. HALE who is 22 years old, born in KY and probably the son of a Rochester HALE b. in KY. By 1860, George shows in the home of T. J. HALE and Barba ALLIN (MARLOW) HALE and he is 8 years old. By 1870, Barbara is a widow and George shows as George W. and is 16 years old, b. in KY. By 1880, he is 24 years old and still in the home with his mother and siblings. Your George or George B. , I think, married prior to 1880. As of the 1900, this George appears as follows in Knox Co. while at the same time your George B. is in Laurel Co.; then later in 1910 in Bell Co. Dwelling 147-148 HALE, George, husband, b. 10-1863, 46, mar. 11 yrs, b. KY , parents b. KY (note how his age continues to change and now instead of his mother being born in NC , both are b. in KY) this happens all of the time! . Bettie, wife, b. 11-1864, 35, mar. 11 yrs, b. KY; 5 born; 4 living, b. KY . Johnnie, son, b. 5-1892, 8, KY . Robert, son, b. 5-1894, 6, KY . Mollie, dau, b. 1-1896, 4, KY . Willie, son, b. 10-1899, 8 mo's, KY There is also another George W. born in 1881 who is in the household of T. J. HALE. Most likely the "W" in George's name stands for George Washington and the T. J. in the other HALE stands for Thomas Jefferson. People back then liked to name folks for famous people, Presidents, generals, and so on and so forth. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5021 Message Board Post: This would have been my great-grandfather and he would have been approximately 8 years old during the 1860 census. I would appreciate someone taking a look thru their 1860's Knox county,Kentucky census records. It's possible that the spelling of " Hale " could variate. Thank you,Bill Hale