RESPONSE: Cassy, As you probably already know, there is no Green MESSER who shows up on the 1880 Clay or Knox Co. However, as of the 1900 Knox, he appears as follows: Dwelling -- - 305 MESSER, Green, husband, b. 1-1880, 20, mar. 0 yrs,b. KY; parents b. KY - day laborer . . Corda, wife, b. 3-1882, 18, mar. 0 yrs, 0 children born; b. KY; parents b. KY NOTE: I found their marriage record in Bell Co. as follows: October 18, 1899 MESSER, Green to GAMBRELL, Cordie, Book ), Page 476 He is living right next to: Dwelling 302-304 MESSER, John, husband, b. 12-1877, 22, mar. 4 yrs, b. KY; parents b. KY - day laborer . . Lizzie, wife, b. 5-1880, 20, mar. 4 yrs, 2 born; 1 living, b. KY; parents b. KY . . Cora, dau, b. 6-1897, 2, b. KY NOTE: Now this is the John MESSER who was married to Eliza GAMBREL, dau. of Samuel GAMBREL and Easter MILLS. I have him as Ambrose "Ellis" MESSER and Elizabeth EDWARDS children. After the death of his wife, he married 2nd to Rutha GROSS who was married lst to Christopher Columbus TAYLOR who was killed. I am wondering if perhaps in the transcribed record, his birthdate was not Jan. 1880 but could have been some month later in the year and was therefore missed by the 1880 Fed. Census. Then because he married in 1899, he just doesn't show up until the 1900 as a married man. If we were lucky, his marriage record might show his parents or perhaps his death cert. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYKNOX-L@rootsweb.com >I am looking to find a Green Messer. This is from an old post and wondering if anyone knows anything about him. Who are his parents??? Thanks, Cassy. Looking for parents of Green Messer, b. 1880 Knox Co. KY. Have been told his father was Ellis, but can find no proof. Anybody have a Green Messer in their family? Thanx. -- <

I am looking to find a Green Messer. This is from an old post and wondering if anyone knows anything about him. Who are his parents??? Thanks, Cassy. Looking for parents of Green Messer, b. 1880 Knox Co. KY. Have been told his father was Ellis, but can find no proof. Anybody have a Green Messer in their family? Thanx. --

From The Corbin News Journal On Line 4 Sep 2002 Betty Jewell Perkins Bowling, 61, South 11th Street, Williamsburg, Elijah J. Carter, 74, London, Ora Rose, 85, Ferndale, Michigan, Bobby Ray Stevens, 66, Highway 92 West, Jellico Creek Community, Clint Smith, 80, Mt. Airy, Georgia, Lucille "Alma" Moses, 85, Wolf Creek Road, Williamsburg, William Douglas Thomas, 49, West Highway 204, Williamsburg, Grace Coomer, 62, Newbern, Tennessee, formerly of Williamsburg, Ordell Hoover, 71, Williamsburg, Isaiah Henderson Mason, 7 months, Corbin, William (Billy) E. Sammons, 62, Corbin, Ray Love, 52, Woodbine, Hazel Gilbert Morgan, 80, Herman Hall Goodman, 66, New Richmond, Ohio, Evelyn Elswick, 76, Williamsburg, ====================================================== Betty Jewell Perkins Bowling, 61, South 11th Street, Williamsburg, passed away Saturday, August 31, 2002 at the Baptist Regional Medical Center in Corbin. Survivors include three sons, Ron Whittaker and wife, Donna of Williamsburg, Bob Whittaker of Manchester, Tennessee and Mike Bowling of Lexington; three granddaughters, Heather Whittaker, Stephanie Whittaker and Natasha Michelle Bowling; three brothers, Robert Perkins, Greg Perkins, and Richard Perkins, all of Williamsburg; five sisters, Jean Vest of Clarksville, Indiana, Shirley Bryant of Louisville, Lou Prewitt of Charlestown, Indiana, Margie Woodruff of New Albany, Indiana and Debbie Grasham of Charlestown, Indiana. She was preceded in death by her parents, Truitt and Pearl Perkins and one brother, Michael Perkins. Funeral services were held Monday, September 2 at the Ellison Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Freddie Powers officiating. Burial was in the Canadatown Cemetery. Ellison Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Elijah J. Carter, 74, London, passed away Monday, August 26, 2002 at the Baptist Regional Medical Center. He was a World War II and Korean Conflict veteran and a member of Calvary Worship Center in London. Survivors include one daughter, Sandy Carter of London; two sons, Steve and Sharon Carter of London and Larry Joe and Yunhui Carter of Colorado Springs, Colorado; one grandson, Steven Ray Carter, Jr. of Okinawa, Japan; two sisters, Linda Ballard of Powell, Tennessee and Georgia Freeman of Fort Wayne, Indiana. His wife, Juanita Dykes Carter, preceded him in death. Funeral services were held Thursday, August 29 at the Jones & Son Funeral Home Chapel with pastor L.J. Harrison officiating. Burial was in the Croley Addition - Highland Park Cemetery. Pallbearers were Larry J. Carter, Steve R. Carter, Jack Carter, Ron Thornton, Freddy Dykes, Randy Webb and Steve Horner. Jones & Son Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Ora Rose, 85, Ferndale, Michigan, passed away Monday, August 26, 2002 at St. Joseph Hospital in Pontiac, Michigan. She is survived by her husband, Albert Rose of Ferndale, Michigan; three step-daughters, Wilma Sue Brooks of Ferndale, Michigan, Wanda Arlene Brown of Lake Orion, Michigan and Betty Lois Vangorder of Madison Heights, Michigan; four step-sons, Billy Ray Rose of Brown City, Michigan, Albert Wayne Rose of Warren, Michigan, Jimmy Rose of Madison Heights, Michigan, and Jeffery Dale Rose of Hazel Park, Michigan; several step-grandchildren and step-great-grandchildren; two sisters, Beulah Oreda Ray of Jonesville, Virginia and Delora Cain of Harlan. Funeral services were held Friday, August 30 at the Jones & Son Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Harold Lawson officiating. Burial followed in the Canadatown Cemetery. Jones & Son Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Bobby Ray Stevens, 66, Highway 92 West, Jellico Creek Community, Williamsburg, passed away Monday morning, August 26, 2002 as a result from injuries sustained from an automobile accident on Highway 92 West. Survivors include one daughter, Betty Wilson and husband, Oscar of Williamsburg; two sons, Bobby Joe Stevens and wife, Teresa of Highway 92W, Williamsburg, and Bruce Stevens and wife, Shonda of Highway 92, Williamsburg; two grandchildren, Eric Wilson of Williamsburg and Marina Wilhoit of Highway 92W, Williamsburg; his mother, Hettie Stevens of Hwy. 92W, Williamsburg; one brother, Vernon Stevens and wife, Jewell, of Highway 92W, Williamsburg; one sister, Jeanette Neal of Highway 92W, Williamsburg; nephews, Ronnie Neal, Brad Stephens, Greg Manning, George Manning, and Michael Manning; nieces, Sue Lewis and Brenda Neal; sisters-in-law and brother-in-law, Vicki Manning of Williamsburg, Joyce Stephens of Hwy. 92W, Williamsburg, and Suzanne Manning and Wendell Manning of New Jersey. He was preceded in death by his wife, Bessie Manning Stevens; father, Walter Stevens; brother, Junior Stephens; two sisters, Glenna Stephens and Mary Willie Stevens; daughter-in-law, Dee Dee Stevens; nephew, Brian Stephens; brother-in-law, Howard Neal. Funeral services were held Friday, August 30 at the Jellico Creek Baptist Church with Rev. Herbert Wells, Rev. Doyle Lester and Rev. Larry Day officiating. Burial was in the Jellico Creek Cemetery. Croley Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Clint Smith, 80, Mt. Airy, Georgia, passed away Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at Habersham County Medical Center. He was born in Whitley County on July 3, 1922 to James and Dora Smith, that precede him in death. In addition to his parents, he is also preceded in death by two brothers, Clyde and Clarance Smith; five sisters, Irie, Cleta, and Eric Smith, Clara Cornelius and Clemma Prewitt; and his wife, Edna Smith. Clint retired from Whitley Farm Supply in Williamsburg. Survivors include his children by his first wife, Patty Eaten of Mt. Airy, Georgia, Brenda Love of Corbin, Lois Lovitt of Williamsburg, Darlene Faulkner of Mt. Airy, Georgia; one son, Clint Smith, Jr. of Williamsburg; ex-wife of 39 years, Mary C. Smith; a grandson whom he raised, Phillip Sluss of Williamsburg; one sister-in-law, Della Smith of Williamsburg; many nieces, nephews and friends to mourn his passing. Funeral services were held August 16 at the Hillside Memorial Chapel in Clarkesville, Georgia. Burial was in the Freewill Baptist Church Cemetery in Williamsburg. Lucille "Alma" Moses, 85, Wolf Creek Road, Williamsburg, passed away Monday morning, August 26, 2002 at the Williamsburg Nursing Home. She was a member of the South Second Street Tabernacle Church of God and member of Venus Chapter 179 O.E.S. Survivors include her husband, Rev. Quint Moses of Wolf Creek Road, Williamsburg; one daughter, Wanda Rountree of the Pleasant View Community, Williamsburg; two sons, Benny Lee Moses Sr. and wife, Shirley of Woodbine and Archie Moses and wife, Debra, of the Pleasant View Community, Williamsburg; ten grandchildren, 11 great-grandchildren and three great-great-grandchildren; several nieces, nephews and a host of other relatives and friends to mourn her passing. Funeral services were held Thursday, August 29 at the Croley Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Bill Mitchell and Rev. Ward Wilson officiating. Burial was in the Oaklawn Cemetery at Pleasant View. Croley Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. William Douglas Thomas, 49, West Highway 204, Williamsburg, passed away Sunday evening, August 25, 2002 at the Baptist Regional Medical Center, Corbin. He is survived by his wife, Shelia Gipson Thomas of Williamsburg; one son, Billy Jack Thomas of Williamsburg; four daughters, Melinda Sue Thomas of Williamsburg, Crystal Dawn Perkins and husband, Thomas of Williamsburg, Autum Renae Thomas of Williamsburg, and Mildred "Keri" Elizabeth Thomas of Williamsburg; two granddaughters, Samantha Marie Thomas of Williamsburg and Mahala Cheyenne Lee Perkins of Williamsburg; his parents, Billy and Mildred Thomas of Fort Cobb, Oklahoma; three sisters, Dorathy Fay Garrett and husband, Noel Ray of Minco, Oklahoma, Janice Thomas of Missoula, Montana and Connie Rambiure and husband, Danny of Las Vegas, Nevada; his father-in-law and mother-in-law, Elmer and Faye Bryant of Williamsburg; two sisters-in-law, Georgie Perkins and husband, Roy of Rockholds and Sherrie Strunk and husband, Jim of Beaverton, Michigan; a brother-in-law, James Gipson of Williamsburg; as well as several nieces, nephews and a host of other relatives and friends to mourn his passing. Funeral services were held Thursday, August 29 at the Sanders Creek Church of God with Rev. Manuel Meadors and Rev. Bill Meadors officiating. Burial was in the Canadatown Cemetery. Croley Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Grace Coomer, 62, Newbern, Tennessee, formerly of Williamsburg, passed away Sunday, August 25, 2002 at the Methodist North Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee. She is survived by three sisters, Betty Argiropoulos Heavner of Corbin, Opal Schidler and husband, Joe, of Corbin, and Lillian Hubbard of Louisville; one brother, James Coomer of Salem, South Carolina; as well as several nieces and nephews. Funeral services were held Thursday, August 29 at the Croley Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Billy Mitchell from Jamestown, Tennessee officiating. Burial was in the Croley Addition - Highland Park Cemetery, Williamsburg. Croley Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Ordell Hoover, 71, Williamsburg, passed away Saturday, August 31, 2002. Funeral services will be held at 2:00 p.m., September 4 at Harp Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Jerry Shelton and Rev. Ronnie Jeffers officiating. Burial will follow in the Jellico Cemetery by Harp Funeral Home. Isaiah Henderson Mason, 7 months, Corbin, passed away Thursday, August 29, 2002 at the Baptist Regional Medical Center. Graveside services were held Sept. 1 at the E.L. Jones Family Cemetery with Rev. Steve Mayle officiating. Burial followed by the Hart Funeral Home. William (Billy) E. Sammons, 62, Corbin, passed away Thursday, August 29, 2002. Funeral services were held August 31 at the Hart Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Gary Elliott and Rev. Jim Murray officiating. Burial was in the Perkins Cemetery by Hart Funeral Home. Ray Love, 52, Woodbine, passed away Thursday, August 29, 2002 at his home. His wife, Carla Love of Woodbine, survives. Funeral services were held August 31 at the Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Keith Decker officiating. Burial was in the Corn Creek Cemetery by Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home. Hazel Gilbert Morgan, 80, passed away Wednesday, August 28, 2002 at the Hillcrest Nursing Home. Eight children survive. Funeral services were held September 1 at the Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Wayne Kidd and Rev. Donnie Mathis officiating. Burial was in the Resthaven Cemetery by Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home. Herman Hall Goodman, 66, New Richmond, Ohio, passed away Monday, August 26, 2002 at Jewish Hospital in Cincinnati, Ohio. His wife, Ruby Sams Goodman, survives. Graveside funeral services were held August 31 at the Sams-Hill Cemetery with VFW Post 1410 conducting the graveside military services. Burial followed by the Vankirk-Grisell Funeral Home. Evelyn Elswick, 76, Williamsburg, passed away Friday, August 30, 2002 at the Baptist Regional Medical Center in Corbin. She was the wife of the late Otho Elswick of Williamsburg. Graveside services were held September 1 at the Highland Cemetery with Rev. Junior Kersey officiating. Burial followed by Ellison Funeral Home. ===================================================== "Genealogy is like playing hide and seek: they hide...I seek!!!" www.byrge.com/genealogy/ Searching: BYRGE, BUNCH, DAUGHERTY, DUNCAN, KENNEDY, PATTERSON, PHILLIPS, SEIBER, TACKETT, WARD. =====================================================

Posted on Wed, Sep. 04, 2002 Compiled By Scott Monroe BARBOURVILLE - AMANDA ALICE "Mandy" MILLS, 82, Girdler, homemaker, sister of Artie Bruner, died Sunday. Services 11 a.m. today, Hampton Funeral Home. Visitation 9 a.m. today. ===================================================== "Genealogy is like playing hide and seek: they hide...I seek!!!" www.byrge.com/genealogy/ Searching: BYRGE, BUNCH, DAUGHERTY, DUNCAN, KENNEDY, PATTERSON, PHILLIPS, SEIBER, TACKETT, WARD. =====================================================

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5036.1 Message Board Post: Hello, From the 1880 Knox Co. Fed. Census: Dwelling 179-183 VALENTINE, Henry C., b. 10-1844, 53, mar. 25 yrs, b. KY; parents b. KY . Joice A., wife, b. 3-1854, 46, mar. 25 yrs, 7 born; 6 living, b. KY; parents b. KY . Laura, dau, b. 7-1881, 19, KY . Matthew, son, b. 3-1881, 19, b. KY . Daniel, son, b. 12-1882, 17, b. KY * * . Robert, son, b. 9-1881, 15, KY . Ready, son, b. 2-1899, 1, KY NOTE: I typed out the ages and dates as they appear on the transcribed census with full recognition that they don't make sense. This may be because the dates were entered incorrectly or they may have been read incorrectly. Knox Co. Marriage Book BB and C dated January 12, 1875 VALENTINE, Henry C. to Joicy A. HAWN By: S. H. JARVIS At: Daniel HAWNS' Wit: James PAYNE, John YAGER and others Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5036 Message Board Post: Seeking copy of obit for Daniel Valentine born 1882,died 1963 and is buried in Patterson Cemetery in Heidrick. Trying to find the name of his parents. Believe they are Henry Valentine and Adeline. When and where was he born and died. Will pay for copies of obits, etc. Mary E. Wilson "DEDICATED TO HELPING OTHERS"

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BLACK, MORELAND, RALSTON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/1281.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Yes, the name Mary Hawn has been mentioned to me. My Frances Ellen was called "Ellen", rather than Frances. She died in Pineville, Bell Co, KY, though she lived in Pittsburg, Laurel/Knox Co, KY when she married. I believe her husband, Charles Moreland worked in the Wallsend Mines in the early 1900's. She is buried at the Wallsend Cem. I would love to talk w/ you more about this family.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/576.1434.1.1.1 Message Board Post: It sounds like you are gleaning from the past the same way I am. I remember when my grandmother was in contact with Sue Diggle about 40-some years ago helping her with the Criswell History. Ms Diggle was researching it for Pastor W.A. Criswell of First Baptist, Dallas. He is descended from one of William's younger brothers as John Y. Sr is his great-grandpa. Anyway, as a result, we received a copy of her painstaking work. It is single-spaced, on onion-skin paper, about one inch thick. It contains everything that was known at the time regarding John Y Criswell, Sr. and his family. It also includes anectdotal history regarding her findings, such as one of the cousins who moved to Llano/San Saba, Texas area was roping calves one day. As he tossed his rope and stepped off the horse to catch the calf, on of the loops settled around his neck. The calf hit the end of the rope and, as the other end was dallied around the saddle horn, it broke this cousins neck, killing him instantly. Incidentally, My sister and mother went and found the old original cemetary where grandpa Wm was first buried, before his being moved to the State Cemetary. We lived in Fayette County, Texas at the time and located several of the burial plots of Criswells. If you've not been to the State Cemetary to view his marker, it is on a website on-line, but I forget how to get there. Probably through the State of Texas somewhere. If I discover it, I'll get it to you, unless you tell me different. If you have any questions about something in this history, you may contact my sister, who has the copy in her possession. Her e-mail is: elmtexas@awsomenet.net Good luck. Charles B.

Found grave of Thomas Stewart. This was a wonderful find and I have to thank Lisa Wombles who led me to this cemetery. I was looking for someone else and they weren't there, but I know others have recently spoken about Thomas Stewart. His tombstone can be seen on my tombstone web page. This was a fairly large cemetery, but most of the stones were unmarked. It was said to see how over grown it was and I think the last burial was in 1997 but you couldn't tell that from looking around. You need an invite if not already a member. Contact me directly at foe3643@mac.com Cassy. --

Hi Krista, thank you so very much for the look ups. I can't make Anderson Smith,s/o Elias & Eddy come round to be mine- although they do have a Blevens and Lumb (Columbus) Smith. Wonder who Lucas belongs to? He too is a s/o Elias & Eddy. Family lore is the "Smith boys are indeed the sons of Elias & Eddy! family lore also states? The 4 Lewis sisters, Sylvania, Polly Jane, Martha and Liziana are the daughters of Judah Lewis and Rebecca Hoskins. All ideas most welcomed! Thanks again, Katie k.t@core.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Krista Loyd To: Clarence Dossett Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: Re: 1870 KNOX COUNTY LOOK UP ??? Hi Katie. I am sorry, but I am not finding a Blevens Smith on the 1870 Knox census. There is an Adis W. on pg 97 listed as follows: Smith, Leander 33, farmer, KY Anny L. 33, KY America, 14, KY Albert W., 6, KY Roseanna J., 4, KY Adis W., 1, KY There is also no Columbus or Steven Smith on the 1870 Knox census. I have the census index for several eastern KY counties. I searched for Adison, A, Columbus, Steven, Bleven, and B Smith and found the following: No Blevens. Under B Smith I found them in Oldham, Henderson, Taylor, Warren, Campbell, Hopkins and Pike counties Columbus Blevens was found in Bourbon, Webster and Nicholas counties Steven Smith was found in Campbell, Nelson and Cumberland counties. Adison was in Todd county. Addison was in Lee county There was an AJ Smith in Nicolas and an AK Smith in Campbell. Since Campbell seems to be the most common denominator, you might consider starting there? The index does not list any one other than head of household, so I can't give you any more information other than the above. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck! Krista ----- Original Message ----- From: Clarence Dossett Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 7:07 PM To: KYKNOX-L@rootsweb.com Subject: 1870 KNOX COUNTY LOOK UP ??? Hi Listers, could some one do a look up for me please? Blevens Smith,b,1862-Knox County.I think my Adison Smith, hubby to Polly J. Lewis, was not from Clay County KY. as I thought. I would like the names of all the folks listed with him. Ad Smith had a brother named Blevens m, Lewis-d/o Judah Lewis Brother named Columbus Smith m, Lewis-d/o Judah Lewis Brother named Steven Smith m, Lewis d/o Judah Lewis Thanks, Katie k.t@core.com Hoskins Lewis , Perry County Means, Arthur O., TN, Clay County, son William,daughter, Hally,(MAHALA) Smith, Adison, Blevens, Columbus, Steven (WHO ARE THE PARENTS??) Swafford IsaacN.C.- Clay County KY, my Frankiln Swafford m, Mahala Means Parents of, Sarah, b, 1894? Maggie , b, 1896 Alex,b, 1900 Hilder? ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Listers, could some one do a look up for me please? Blevens Smith,b,1862-Knox County.I think my Adison Smith, hubby to Polly J. Lewis, was not from Clay County KY. as I thought. I would like the names of all the folks listed with him. Ad Smith had a brother named Blevens m, Lewis-d/o Judah Lewis Brother named Columbus Smith m, Lewis-d/o Judah Lewis Brother named Steven Smith m, Lewis d/o Judah Lewis Thanks, Katie k.t@core.com Hoskins Lewis , Perry County Means, Arthur O., TN, Clay County, son William,daughter, Hally,(MAHALA) Smith, Adison, Blevens, Columbus, Steven (WHO ARE THE PARENTS??) Swafford IsaacN.C.- Clay County KY, my Frankiln Swafford m, Mahala Means Parents of, Sarah, b, 1894? Maggie , b, 1896 Alex,b, 1900 Hilder?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Criswell/Vannoy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/576.1434.1.1 Message Board Post: I always welcome information! Even when it turns out to be something that I THINK I already have........because it is always helpful to me for another set of eyes and ears to review things. While I did know about William fighting the Mexicans -- and about his body being moved to the State Cemetery (that is the only reason I know what I know.....), I was not clear on the dates for Papa William being in Kentucky. So thanks! There are several resources available to you - if you are new at all of this (I am....and the more I know the more confused I am!) about the Criswells. I happily share any and all..... It is nice to have another cousin on the "tree"!! I know that my mother will be happy to make this contact with you! My grandmother was Effie Criswell, daughter of John Henry and grand daughter of William Vannoy. She was a treasure to have in my life -- and always VERY much comitted to her family -- no matter how many "once-removed" they were! While I am new to all of this -- I do have a wealth of information from my mother. It is not that I am so all fired up about genealogy as much as it is this intense fear I have that all the work she has done (by hand and by GOING places, I might add! -- none of this "click-the-mouse-stuff" you and I can access!) will just disappear with herI am deperately trying to at least get it all down somewhere and in some fashion that I can understand nad know how to "cull through". Thank you for your response. And I appreciate the info. Beverly Rutledge bevrutledge@earthlink.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5034.1 Message Board Post: Rich their address is Knox County Genalogical Society P.O. Box 20788 Louisville Ky 40250

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/576.1434.1 Message Board Post: Since your original msg was posted three years ago, this may be old information to you. Wm. V. Criswell is my g-g-g-grandfather. His daughter, Elizabeth Jane, was my grandmother's grandmother. So, hello cuz!! I just read a posting in the Criswell pages by Dennis Yancey which indicated that John Y. Criswell, Sr. (Wm.V.'s father) moved to Knox Co, KY from Sullivan Co., TN. Our family records indicate that Wm was born in Knox Co., KY in 1815 and died in Texas in 1858 after having fought in several of the battles for Texas Independance......Come and Take It battle in Gonzales, TX; Siege of Bexar, San Antonio; and San Jacinto. I had no idea, though, that he had travelled through MO at any time or had relatives there. I have found that Wm V's grandfather, William Vannoy, lived in Knox Co, KY from 1802 until sometime after the 1840 census. His daughter, Eleanor, married John Yancey Criswell, Sr. Hope some of this helps and is not "old news"..... Charles Bauch

I have no knowledge they have an e-mail address or website. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYKNOX-L@rootsweb.com >Does anyone have an e-mail address for the Knox County Genealogical Society? I want to send in an article for the next issue of the 'Kinfolk' newsletter. My e-mail is RNallenweg@aol.com <

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5034 Message Board Post: Does anyone have an e-mail address for the Knox County Genealogical Society? I want to send in an article for the next issue of the 'Kinfolk' newsletter. My e-mail is RNallenweg@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5025.1.2 Message Board Post: Hello, Sorry about the census postings with no year. These postings were all from the 1850 Knox Co. Fed. Census transcribed and sold by the Knox Co. Gen. Society. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Black Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/1281.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I might have a Francis in my family group. She was born abt. 1867 to John S Black and Mary Hawn. John was born in TN and the general family had a presence in the Pineville, Bell Co, KY area early in the 20th century. 'Would like to hear from you. There is a pretty good possibility we can connect. Lee

Can someone do a look up for me and tell me if there was a Jess Messer who m. a Martha Combs around 1861. I am also looking for a Rueben Messer who m. Lulu Mills. in the early 1900's maybe 1920's or so. Lulus father was Richard Mills and her grand parents were James M. Mills and Mary Thomas Messer. I would love to find out who the parents of each of these messers were. Thanks, Cassy. --

Hi, I am trying to see if there is a connection to this line to my other Smith lines. I am not positive about the Henry father of Hiram or Robert father of Henry. Please let me know if you know anything about this family. Thanks, Charlotte Miller Descendants of Robert Smith 1 Robert Smith .. +? ....... 2 Henry Smith ........... +? ................ 3 Hiram Harrison Smith b: February 1824 in Clay County, Kentucky d: Unknown .................... +Sarah Elizabeth Hurst b: March 1824 in Claiborne County, Tennessee d: Unknown m: September 21, 1843 .......................... 4 Henry Smith b: 1845 .......................... 4 Farmer Smith b: 1847 in Clay Co., Ky. .............................. +Amanda Smallwood .......................... 4 Susan Smith b: 1849 in Clay Co., Ky. .......................... 4 China Smith b: 1852 in Clay Co., Ky. .............................. +Jefferson Baker m: November 25, 1868 in Clay Co, Ky. .......................... 4 Felix G. Smith b: December 1853 in Clay Co., Ky. d: 1923 .............................. +Catherine Holland b: November 01, 1854 in Clay Co., Kentucky m: December 17, 1874 in Clay Co., Kentucky ................................... 5 Hiram Smith b: November 19, 1879 in Clay Co., Kentucky d: August 18, 1958 in Bush, Clay Co., Ky. ....................................... +Jane Barnard b: February 14, 1886 in Rockcastle, Ky. d: November 05, 1961 in London, Laurel Co., Ky. m: September 08, 1904 in Clay Co., Kentucky ............................................ 6 Ed Smith b: October 06, 1906 in Hazel Patch, Ky. d: October 20, 1979 in Victory, Laurel Co., Ky. ................................................ +Matilda Lawson m: March 04, 1927 in Bush, Clay Co., Ky. ............................................ 6 Eb Smith b: June 20, 1909 d: June 04, 1929 ............................................ 6 Charlie Smith b: June 25, 1912 d: June 04, 1976 in IN ................................................ +Hettie Barnett ............................................ 6 Bertha Smith b: September 02, 1914 d: 1997 ................................................ +Tommy Fultz ............................................ 6 Calvin Smith b: November 16, 1916 in Lake, Laurel Co., Ky. d: June 11, 1996 in Walla Walla, Walla Walla Co., WA. ................................................ +Edna Margaret Delph b: June 08, 1927 in Hare, Ky. d: June 01, 2000 in Oregon m: August 10, 1945 in London, Laurel Co., Ky. ............................................ 6 Allie Smith b: November 22, 1918 d: March 2002 in Kentucky ................................................ +Otis Sams ............................................ 6 Lizzie B. Smith b: May 01, 1921 d: November 27, 1939 ............................................ 6 Ethel Smith b: August 18, 1923 in Ky. d: February 03, 1985 in Indianapolis, IN. ................................................ +Otis Hollin, Sr. ............................................ *2nd Husband of Ethel Smith: ................................................ +George Nixon ............................................ 6 Nancy Smith b: May 01, 1926 d: May 05, 1964 ............................................ 6 Chester Smith b: October 07, 1930 in Kentucky d: November 18, 1984 ................................................ +Betty ? .......................... 4 Polly Smith b: 1856 in Clay Co., Ky. .......................... 4 Daugherty Smith b: 1858 in Clay Co., Ky. d: Unknown .............................. +Nancy Jane Jackson b: Bet. 1858 - 1861 in Clay County, Kentucky d: Unknown m: January 22, 1880 in Clay County, Ky. ................................... 5 Melzelia Smith b: November 1880 in Kentucky d: December 28, 1939 in Blanche, Bell Co., Kentucky ....................................... +Franklin Hooker b: January 10, 1877 in Clay Co., Kentucky d: February 25, 1955 in Blanche, Bell Co., Kentucky m: 1896 in KY ............................................ 6 Allie Fair Hooker b: November 04, 1896 in Kentucky d: October 19, 1960 in Bell County, Kentucky ................................................ +Jasper Hensley b: April 04, 1893 d: Unknown ............................................ 6 Sandlin Hooker b: May 22, 1899 in Brightshade, Clay County, Kentucky d: March 12, 1970 in Kentucky ................................................ +Bertha Lawson b: March 10, 1900 d: January 03, 1970 m: June 23, 1920 in Arjay, Bell County, Kentucky ............................................ 6 Floyd Hooker b: January 28, 1901 in Clay Co., Kentucky d: February 10, 1961 in London, Laurel County, Ky. ................................................ +Minnie Mavis Pennington Rice b: May 11, 1911 in Knox Co., Kentucky d: December 29, 1940 in Bell Co., Kentucky m: December 25, 1926 in Bell Co., Ky. ............................................ *2nd Wife of Floyd Hooker: ................................................ +Delitha/Telitha (Litha) Spurlock b: December 19, 1916 in Kentucky d: March 23, 1997 in Bell Co., Ky. m: February 24, 1951 in Middlesboro, Bell County, Kentucky ............................................ 6 Mary Hooker b: February 19, 1903 in Kentucky d: May 1975 in Muskegon, Muskegon County, Michigan ................................................ +Mack Gray b: Unknown ............................................ *2nd Husband of Mary Hooker: ................................................ +John Smith ............................................ 6 Victor Hooker b: May 28, 1905 in Kentucky d: April 25, 1949 ................................................ +Thelma Rice b: October 05, 1908 in Kentucky d: June 21, 1985 in Cincinnati, Ohio m: September 14, 1925 in Bell Co., Ky ............................................ 6 Genety Hooker b: 1908 in Kentucky d: July 16, 1918 in Bell County, Kentucky ............................................ 6 Robert Hooker b: April 12, 1910 in Knox County, Kentucky d: July 08, 1982 in Hamilton, Butler County, Ohio ................................................ +Mary Spurlock b: June 13, 1915 d: Unknown m: March 14, 1931 in Ivy Grove, Bell County, Ky. ............................................ 6 Albert Hooker b: May 26, 1913 in Bell County, Kentucky d: January 31, 1961 in Danville, Boyle Co., Ky. ................................................ +Cora L. Smith b: January 24, 1913 in KY. m: June 20, 1936 in Bell Co. , Kentucky ............................................ 6 Minnie Hooker b: 1917 in Kentucky d: February 18, 1937 in Bell County, Kentucky ................................................ +Henry Horn ............................................ 6 Franklin Hooker, ll b: October 17, 1919 in Bell County, Kentucky ................................... 5 Eller Smith b: 1882 ................................... 5 Elizabeth Smith b: 1884 ................................... 5 Andrew Smith b: Abt. 1883 in Kentucky d: 1926 ................................... 5 Adison/Addison Smith b: 1886 ................................... 5 Noah Smith b: Unknown ................................... 5 Albert Smith b: Unknown ............................................ 6 Slusher Smith ............................................ 6 Ford Smith ................................................ +Mandy Jones ............................................ *2nd Wife of Ford Smith: ................................................ +Charlotte ? ............................................ 6 Paul Smith ............................................ 6 Clarence Smith .......................... 4 Joseph Smith b: 1859 in Clay Co., Ky. .......................... 4 Sarah Smith b: Unknown in Clay Co., Ky.