This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Tye, Clem Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/5072 Message Board Post: Hi. My grandmother was Virginia Lee Tye, and she married Bennett Clem of Harlan Co., KY. She died in 1939, about age 30. She had a son, Robert, and a daughter, Thelma (my mother), in 1929. We have no information on her aside from my mother's birth records and a tin-backed photograph of her. If anyone has any information about Virginia, I'd greatly appreciate it. I can only add that she had several brothers, one of whom was named Noble. --Kris

William, would John have had another wife by 1920? I never found one with a wife Lizzie. Mary S. ----- Original Message ----- From: KYKNOX-D-request@rootsweb.com To: KYKNOX-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: KYKNOX-D Digest V02 #288

Here is what Ancestry.com has on the 1910 Kentucky Miracode Census Index: John Smith Enumeration District: 0109 Color: W Age: 27 Birth Place: Kentucky Visit: 0092 County: Knox Relation: Husband Relatives: Wife Lizzie 28, Kentucky Son Yerkes 11, Kentucky Son Richard 07, Kentucky Daughter Dora 04, Kentucky Son Ike 01, Kentucky Mary S. ----- Original Message ----- From: KYKNOX-D-request@rootsweb.com To: KYKNOX-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: KYKNOX-D Digest V02 #288

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5054.3.1 Message Board Post: Annette are you related to Alabama? Email me at ranjac42@msn.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5070.1 Message Board Post: Hello, Bobbi, I'm really not familiar with your family but here is some information I've gleaned for you. From the 1910 Knox Co. Fed. Census Enum. Dist. 0101 Dwelling 0122 GARLAND, Noah, 25, husband, b. KY . Annie, 23, wife, b. KY (your Annie LAWSON) . Jams, son, 7, b. KY (assume this is your James Wiley GARLAND) . Mandy L., dau, 5, KY . Sam, son, 3, b. KY You may wish to contact these two names. Both have information posted on the Internet on your family. First is Ray HOWELL at: nobilis_40906@hotmail.com The second is Ernie GRUBB at: ernieg@mchsi.com I see that Noah GARLAN was born June 13, 1882 and died Jan. 18, 1945 at the age of 62 years. He is buried at the Jackson-Garland Cem., Cannon, Knox Co., KY. His father was: Wiley Franklin GARLAND. On the 1900 Knox Co., this appears to be Noah and Annie LAWSON prior to their marriage: Dwelling 260-263 LAWSON, James W., husband, b. 5-1864, 36, mar. 0 yrs, b. IN; father b. TN; mother b. KY . Mary, wife, b. 7-1871, 28, mar. 0 yrs, 1 born; l living, b. KY; parents b. KY . Samuel, son, b. 10-1885, 14, KY - at school . Annie, dau, b. 11-1886, 13, KY - at school . Ellen, dau, b. 5-1892, 8, KY . Lillie, dau, b. 5-1894, 6, KY . Luisa E., dau, b. 3-1896, 4, b. KY CROFFORD, Laura, Stepdau, b. 7-1896, 4, b. KY; parents b. KY NOTE: It would appear that BOTH James W. and Mary have been married previously. Mary apparently was married to a CRAWFORD. Mary would not be the mother of Annie LAWSON. Next dwelling: 261-264 GARLAN, Wilson, husband, b. 1-1869, 31, mar. 7 yrs, b. KY; father b. TN; mother b. KY . Elvira, wife, b. 6-1874, 25, mar. 7 yrs, 2 born; 2 living, b. KY; father b. TN; mother b. KY . Daniel, son, b. 3-1894, 6, KY . Mary, dau, b. 11-1896, 3, KY . Noah, brother, b. 6-1883, 16, single, b. KY; parents b. TN - day laborer A Harvey and Matthew are living with their families next two dwellings. Dwelling 259-262 GARLAND, Wylie, husband, b. 3-1835, 65, mar. 40 yrs, b. TN; parents b. TN . Elizabeth, wife, b. 1-1842, 58, mar. 40 yrs, 14 born; 12 living, b. TN; parents b. TN . Ganam, son, b. 5-1879, 21, mar. 2 yrs, b. KY . Susan, daugther-in-law, b. 1-1882, 18, mar. 2 yrs, l born; 0 living, b. KY; parents b. KY Here is Noah's father, Wiley/Wyley GARLAND as of 1880: Dwelling 60-60 GARLAND, Wyley, 40, farms, disabled, husband, b. TN; parents b. VA . Elizabeth, 39, wife, b. TN; parents b. KY . Mary A., 18, at home, dau, TN . Emiline, 13, at home, dau, KY . Wilson, 11, farms, son, KY . Isaac, 10, farms, son, KY . July A., 8, dau, KY . Mathew, 6, son, KY . Harvey, 5, son, Ky . Gaynon, 4, son, KY . Cordelia, 1, dau, KY Hopefully, these two or some other HARRIS-GARLAND researchers can help you further. I am not related. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/4945.2 Message Board Post: Nelson Smith and Miriah Hale are my grandparents. Nelson had I believe 9 children with Miriah. One being my father. There is also a half dozen or so children by Cordia and they included Senior, Alice, Mayme, Otis, Arthur. I don't know a lot about the family other than who has died and who is living.

RESPONSE: Cassy, At first I thought I knew who these people were but now there are some questions. First, the Dwelling 304-307, I have different ages from you. Dwelling 304-307 MESSER, Anthony, husband, b. 3-1878, 22, mar. 3 yrs, b. KY; parents b. KY - grocer . . Susan, wife, b. 6-1880, 19, mar. 3 yrs, 0 born; b. KY; parents b. KY NOTE: I have checked for their marriage in Knox, Bell, Laurel, Clay and Clairborne Co., TN but did not locate it. I made the assumption that the husband, Anthony that I had b. abt. 1877, was a child of Allen MESSER, M.D. and his wife, Margaret PAYNE. My thoughts were that this Lucy was Lucy GILLUM/GILLIAM of VA who was b. abt. 1850. Lucy was married lst to Anderson A. Y. MESSER who died bef. 1891 . ON April 23, 1891, Marriage Bond Book M, Page 620 , 2nd marriages for both, C. T. WARREN, 48, b. Knox Co. both parents born in VA and Lucy MESSER age 38, b. VA Here is my problem. I have Cornelius WARREN mar. to Martha MESSER on both the 1870 and 1880. I CANNOT LOCATE HIM ON THE 1900. I have A. Y. MESSER married to Lucinda "Lucy" GILLUM MESSER on the 1880. Then the only Lucy MESSER or WARREN is the one listed as a widow on the 1900. Then on the 1910, here is C. T. WARREN again: Dwelling 115-121 - West Flat Lick, Precinct #6 WARREN, Cornelius, 73, mar. 2 times, mar. 20 yrs, father b. VA .. . Lucy, 58, mar. 2 times, mar. 20 yrs, 5 born; 4 living, b. KY; parents b. VA On her death cert from Carolyn GAMBREL, Cert #29463 WARREN, Lucy, female, white, widow b. 1-14-1850 in Scott Co., VA; d. 4-3-1929 in Knox Co.; age 79 yrs, 2 mo's, 20 days Husband: C. T. WARREN, Father: John GILLIUM, b. VA MOther: Minnia WElch, B. Wales Informant: John McMESSER, Himyar, KY Cause of Death: Aortic insufficiency and influenza Burial: Himyar: 4-5-1929 Now, if this is Lucy GILLIAM MESSER WARREN b. abt. 1850, why is she shown as a widow on the 1900 if she married C. T. WARREN in 1891 and later shows as his wife. Why would she be listed as a MESSER? Where was C. T. WARREN in 1900? Everything about her looks like her but . . . . something is wrong. A possibility is that they separated and she took back her widowed name and then they got back together and in the meantime ol' Cornelius T. WARREN is off somewhere. Anyone have further thoughts on this situation Cassy has brought up Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYKNOX-L@rootsweb.com >Can someone help me to track down the following two Messer's from the 1900 Knox County Census. It would seem that Lucy is possibly Anthony's mother's but on the other side of Anthony are the children of Ambrose Ellis Messer who married Elizabeth Edwards. So these two have me stumped. Are they possible in the 1880 census? thanks, Cassy. dwelling 304-307: Anthony Messer b. 3/1878 , age 33 m. 3 yrs Susan, age 19. No children. All born KY dwelling 305-308: Lucy Messer, head of hsehold, "widow" b. 8/1849, age 50. 6 children born-5 living. Her and parents b. KY -- <

Would someone please lookup on the 1910 and 1920 census for John Smith with a wife Lizzie. They had 2 children that I know the names of one being Nannie b. 1916 and the other being Nelse, but I don't know when he was born. Also if anyone has any information on these families, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thank You in advance William

RESPONSE: I am going to assume you are looking for John O. MILLS, b. June 13, 1862 at Hammond, Stinking Creek, Knox Co., KY; mar. Jan. 26, 1905 in Knox Co. ; d. May 7, 1937 in Hammonds Fork, Knox Co., KY. He had been married previously. Was the son of Obediah "Obie" MILLS and Nancy BARGO. His wife is actually Isabelle "Bell" SMITH, b. abt. 1872; died abt. 1945. She was the dau. of Harrison SMITH and Eliza Jane TOLIVER. I don't have him on the 1910 but here is the 1920 Knox Co.: Dwelling 174-176 Township: Girdler, Precinct A, Hammonds Road Fork MILLS, John O., 50, b. KY . . Isabell, wife, 42, KY . . Ruben, son, 18, KY . . Watler, son, 17, KY (which I assume is really Walter) . . Sarah, 16, dau, KY . . Willie, son, 12, KY (I have married a Ruth CALEBS) . . Myrtle, dau, 10, KY (I have married a Bill FROST) . . Criss, son, 8, KY (this is actually Christopher, b. 2-9-1911 in Knox co.; maiden name of mother: Bell SMITH) . . Nannie, 5, KY (which is Nancy, I have married R. J. WOODS) . . Mandy, 4 yrs, 3 mo's, KY (which is Amanda MILLS who mar. an Arthur SMITH) Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Message text written by INTERNET:KYKNOX-L@rootsweb.com >Could someone please look the family of John Mills with a wife Belle up on the 1910 and 1920 census please. Also looking for additional information on this family. Any and all help appreciated. William <

Can someone help me to track down the following two Messer's from the 1900 Knox County Census. It would seem that Lucy is possibly Anthony's mother's but on the other side of Anthony are the children of Ambrose Ellis Messer who married Elizabeth Edwards. So these two have me stumped. Are they possible in the 1880 census? thanks, Cassy. dwelling 304-307: Anthony Messer b. 3/1878 , age 33 m. 3 yrs Susan, age 19. No children. All born KY dwelling 305-308: Lucy Messer, head of hsehold, "widow" b. 8/1849, age 50. 6 children born-5 living. Her and parents b. KY --

While Darlene Sizemore and I were indexing the 1930 Leslie Co. KY census, we often had difficulty determining the actual names on the forms. To assist in deciphering some of them, we referred to the INDEX TO KY BIRTHS, among other resources, for guidance to given names, etc. Our index presents the names as we saw them on the census forms. The index, available on cd, is a valuable resource for identifying those born after 1911. HOWEVER, a comparison of the index to the 1930 Leslie Co census, shows many of those early births are not included in the index. I do not know if the same is true of all KY counties but can only verify that many children listed on the 1930 Leslie Co. census were not in the index! This is simply to alert you, that when using the birth index, (which is only a source leading to the actual birth certificate), you may not find the person listed for whom you are looking - for many reasons: 1- typographical errors in creating index 2- misreading of actual birth record 3- birth certificate never filed 4- birth certificate never existed. My suggestion is that you search the index under both the mother's maiden name and the child's name, using any variety of spellings. Be aware that even then, although the person existed, the birth may not be listed! Good luck in your family searching! Hermina Brinkmeier (Dayton, OH) Exploring branches of the family tree!

Could someone please look the family of John Mills with a wife Belle up on the 1910 and 1920 census please. Also looking for additional information on this family. Any and all help appreciated. William

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5071.2 Message Board Post: Sandy, Here is Caloway's census info. Please notice his ex wife Ellen Messer Carnes in 1900 also. Do you know if the child Lola is Caloway's child? I think she is, but you might know for sure. 1880 Knox Co. Federal Census, Dwelling 136-141 CARENS, Calaway 20, farms, KY KY KY . Carline 22, keeps house, KY KY KY 1900 Knox Co. Census, Vol 1, Dwelling 117-118 CARNES, Caloway 40, 1-1860, m. 1 yr., farmer, KY KY KY . Nancy 19, 3-1881, 1 child born - 1 liv, KY KY KY ***Calloway's new wife, youngest child must be hers. . Boyd 13, 10-1886, son, KY . Evie 10, 12-1889, son, KY . Will 6, 2-1894, son, KY . Ada 3, 5-1897, dau, KY . Esther 2, 5-1898, dau, KY . John Caloway 1, 1-1899, son, KY 1900 Knox Co. Census, Vol 1, Dwelling 111-112 BAKER, William 27, 4-1863, m. 20 yrs., farmer, KY KY KY . Sallie 32, 3-1868, 10 child born - 9 liv., KY KY KY . Henry 17, 3-1883, son, farm laborer, KY . Evie 16, 4-1884, son, farm laborer, KY . Ellen 13, 1-1887, dau, KY . Willie 12, 1-1882, son, KY . Jane 9, 10-1890, dau, KY . Tommie 7, 11-1892, son, KY . Dannie 7, 11-1892, son, KY . Effie 3, 2-1897, dau, KY CARNES, Ellen 30, 12-1869, sis-in-law, divorced, KY KY KY ***Calloway's ex- wife lives 6 houses away . Lola 8mo., 10-1899, dau, KY ***Is this Calloway's child ? Thanks, Carolyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carnes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5071.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I am related through Nelson's brother Kinningham Carnes. I have a tidbit of info that may help you. I wish I knew where he is buried, but I do not. Caloway married Nancy Henrickson last. She is listed as a widow in the 1910 census. IF the census info. is correct, Caloway would have died abt 1902. 1910 Bell Co. Fed Census, ED 17 Visit 21-21 HENDRICKSON, Sidnie 62, head, white, female, widow, m. 1 yr., 1 child born - 1 living, KY KY KY . Nancy 27, niece, white, female, widow, m. 2 yrs, 1 child born - 1 living, KY KY KY CARNS, John 10, nephew, KY KY KY (John Caloway Carnes) Here are his marriages, notice the 3rd being Nancy. Knox County Marriage Bond Book G page 204 dated 10-16-1879 CARNES, Calaway age 21 b. Knox Co. father b. Knox mother b. Harlan (?) VALENTINE, Caroline age 22 b. Knox Co. father b. Knox mother b. Knox groom's 1st marriage brides 1st marriage at: W. Valentine's Knox County marriage Bond Book L page 130 dated 6-19-1885 Calaway Carnes age 24 b. Knox Co. TO: Ellen Messer age 16 b. Knox Co. groom's 2nd marriage bride's 1st marriage at: William Baker's Knox County Marriage Bond Book T page 485 dated 3-26-1900 CARNES, C. L. age 40 b. Knox Co. HENDRICKSON, Nancy age 20 b. Bell Co. groom's 3rd marriage brides 1st marriage at: Flat Lick I would like to exchange some information with you, Carolyn Gambrel cgjsz@sun-spot.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5071 Message Board Post: Looking for information on callaway carnes, son of Nelson Edward Carnes. Callaway was born around 1859. He was married to Caroline Valentine, Nancy Mills, and Ellen Messer. We do not know what happend to Callaway.Last search lost around 1900. If anyone knows anything about him, please let me know. If you know where he died and how he died would help. His Grandson is now 85 years old and his health is failing. Wanted to know what every happened to Callaway. Any information would be helpful.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Harris, Garland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5070 Message Board Post: Hi, I am looking for any information on Garland's or Harris's from Kentucky. My grandma Iva Ann Garland born on April 7, 1926 was the daughter of Polly Ann Harris and James Wylie Garland Born on Feb. 12, 1902 . James Wylie Garland was the son of Noah Garland and Annie Lawson. Also they lived in Cannon, Knox, Kentucky. This is all I know, any information would help. Thanks, Bobbi Broughton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hammons, Long Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/234.698.735.2876.2897.2900.2901.2903.2932.2924 Message Board Post: Does your list of Peter's children show a son by the name of Edmund Hammons b. circa 1780 in VA. Thanks. Kennard

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HAYNES, COLLETT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5069 Message Board Post: Looking for a connection between ANDREW HAYNES on the 1800 tax list for Knox Co KY and ABRAHAM COLLETT late 1760-1800's. Did ANDREW HAYNES marry a dau of ABRAHAM COLLETT of TN, and did ANDREW HAYNES have a son COLLETT HAYNES??? Is there anyone that can do a marriage lookup on HAYNES/COLLETT?? Thanks for your time.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Addington Bays Goley Reynolds Mellton Carter Golden Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/2673.2741.1 Message Board Post: My great grandfather lived at Myrick switch. He was James W. Myrick. He also operated a general store. I am also related to Peter Bays and Polly Addington from Virginia. Their Son William Bays married Elizabeth goley. Wanda Bays Howard please E mail me at CMILLS1776@Aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/4961.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Blynda. Don't know how I got the name Larry. Bob