This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5177.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for all the information, it does seem to be a confusing family. But there are great leads for me to look for more information, so again thank you. Jean Rowcliffe

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5176.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Pleas Edwards lived in Clay Co. in 1900, I have not been able to locate Sarah Jane in any census till she married Pleas, but from what my family tells me she was also in Clay

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5176.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: thanks Joyce, Sarah Jane Brown was married to a Gillis Combs before she married Pleasant Edwards 8-16-1910 so when the census was done in 1910 she was probably listed as Sarah or Jane Combs

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5177.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I am not absolutely sure about all of this information, but here goes. Some I have in my database and some I do not. As far as Celia BAKER , this could be her: 1870 Knox Co. Dwelling 153-2-2 BAKER, Joseph, 69 farmer, VA . Jane, 69 ,b. KY . Margaret J., 26, KY . Amanda, 20 ,KY . .Celia A., 17, b. KY * * NOTE: This family does not appear to have yet arrived in Knox Co. as of the 1860. Don't know where they were. As far as Gorden/Gordon is concerned, by 1880, he appears as follows: Dwelling 201-208 MESSER, Gorden, 24, husband, b. KY; parents b. KY . Cealy, 24, wife, b. KY;parents .KY . Wesley, 4 , son, b. KY . Pallas, 2, son, b. KY . .Frank C., 2 mo's, son, KY NOTE: I could not locate their marriage in Knox or in Bell Co.;however. I have this Gordon as a child of Edward/Edmond MESSER, b. ABT.1816 in Knox Co. (s/o Moses MESSER and Winnie GOLDEN MESSER) and Annabelle DUNLAP/Anna/Anne PATTERSON b. abt. 1815 in Knox Co. Although Edward MESSER was in Knox co. the whole first part of his life, by the 1880 Fed. Census he was in Ray Co., MO where he supposedly died at some point aft. the 1880 Fed. Census. Edward was married to a Arin WALKER TAYLOR abt. which I have no additional information. Then in 1834 in Knox co. , he married to Anna PATTERSON who had married lst to John WALKER and was a widow when she married to Edward MESSER. They had a whole bunch of children and then later in life , he took up with a Mary SCALF less than half his age, and started having children with her. After a while, they married and continued having more children. What is a little confusing is that the 1860 Fed. Census for Knox does not list this Gordon and then the 1870 lists him but slightly out of order. Actually Edward MESSER this new wife, Mary SCALF MESSER , and his former wife, Anna and her dau. from her first marriage and granddau. are all listed as though they were in the same household but were probably living in another home on his property. 1870 Knox Co. Dwellinb 90-1-1 Flat Lick MESSER, Edward, 55, farmer, b. KY . Mary , 21, KY (nee SCALF) .l Elihew, 4, KY . Anthony, 1, KY . Richard, 20, KY . .Ellis, 13, KY . .Gorden, 16, KY * * . Anna, 60, KY (former wife, Anna PATTERSON WALKER MESSER) . Jane, 35, KY . .Martha, 2 mo's, KY 1860 Knox Co. Dwelling 597 MESSER, Edward, 44, KY . .Anora, 50, KY (Anna) . .Jane, 25, KY . .Asa J., 21, KY . .Dicia, 18, KY . .Allen, 16, KY . .Mary, 12, KY . .Richard, 10, KY His father is 3 dwellings removed: Dwelling 600 EDWARDS, Mosses, 65, b. SC . .Winna, 60 ,TN (nee GOLDEN) . Andrew, 21, KY By the time of the 1900 Knox Co. , this family is gone. Perhaps he left for Ray Co., MO as had his parents. Don't really know what happened to Gordon and Celia. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5177 Message Board Post: Hi, I have hit a brick wall with my research and wondering if someone has some information to help get over it. I am searching for the parents of Telithia Messer, I have her death certificate and it states she was born in 1886. The death certificate is hard to read but , it actually looks like Barberville or Barkerville, but can find no town spelled either way. So I am thinking it is suppposed to be Barbourville. It says her father was G T (or F) Messer and her mother was Celia Baker both listed as being born in the same town as Telithia. Has anyone come across information about this family? I have searched the 1880 Knox county census and have found a Gorden and Cealy Messer livng in Knox county, this is the closest I have come to a possibility. By 1910 Telithia was married living in Illinois, Union County Thank you for any help Jean Rowcliffe in Colorado

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5176.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, You may have this information but in case you don't, : 1910 Clay Co. Dwelling 245-245 EDWARDS, Andy, 45, mar.1, mar.29 yrs, b. KY; parents b. KY . . Fannie, wife, 45, mar. 1, mar.29 yrs, 9 born; 8 living, b. KY:parents b. KY . .Maggie, dau, 27, single, KY . . Lucy, dau, 21 , single, KY . .Pleasent, son, 17, KY * * (assume this is him) . .Harry, son, 15 , KY . .Jeff, son, 12, KY . .Willie, son, 9, KY . .Tip, son, 5, KY JOHNSON, Andy, grandson, 8, KY 1920 Knox Co. Fed. Census Girdler Township Dwelling 160-161 EDWARDS, Pleas, 27, KY . Jane, 30, KY, wife . Mossie, 14, dau, KY . Maudie, 8, dau, KY . McKinley, 6, son, KY (2-15-1914 in Clay Co.) . Lucy, 3 yrs, 6 mo's, dau, KY (6-10-1916 in Clay Co.) SSN 404-14-3676 EDWARDS, Pleas, b. Jan 29, 1892 d. July 15, 1972; last address for benefits: Gray, Knox Co. 1930 Clay Co. Dist. 8, EDWARDS, Pleasant, 38, mar. at 18, KY . Jane, 35, wife, KY . McKinley, son, 16, KY . Lucy, dau, 13, KY . James, 9, son, KY . Millie, 8, dau, KY . Robert, 4, son, KY . .William, son, b. (11-2-1928 in Clay Co.) NOTE: On birth records, Jane or Janie isshown as a BROWN. I do not seem to locate her in Knox or in Clay Co. in 1910. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5176.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Since Daw/Daughtery BROWN is not in Knox in 1880 or 1900 , do you have any information or source as to where Pleasant EDWARDS or Daw's dau., Sarah Jane lived? Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

I know that most of my Honeycutts are buried in Scalf cemetery, but some are turning up in a Howard or Howard B Cemetery. I can find no info on Howard in Knox. I know there are a few Howard Cemeteries in Bell Co. It's not these. Someone suggested to me that perhaps Scalf cemetery might have been called Howard at one time. Has anyone else heard of this before? Thanks, Cassy. -- Please check out my new free genealogy site. I am currently looking for others willing to share their photographs as well. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~foe3643/

I have a death certificate for one Alice Mills. parents are Ewell Jordan and Martha Hammons. Alice I believe to be Martha Alice Jordan b. Mary 15, 1873 died Feb 10, 1936. She is buired on Greenroad, Knox County, Kentucky. Can anyone tell me which Obie Mills she married? Thanks, Cassy. -- Please check out my new free genealogy site. I am currently looking for others willing to share their photographs as well. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~foe3643/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5176.1.1 Message Board Post: hi Joyce, thanks for the reply, the only info I have on Daugh (Daw) Brown is that he married Martha mills, I know he had one daughter Sarah Jane b 4-19-1884 m. Pleasant (Pleas) Edwards m. 8-16-1910

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5175.1 Message Board Post: Deborah, My daughters and I are always looking for photographs and material relating to Flat Lick, or Knox County. I saw a message conc; the Michael Mills Book and my daughter is ordering it, I will keep on the look-out for the infor. that you are seeking and I have included our family Site address on Rootsweb. I think you will see a lot of familiar names. we are of the Mills, Taylor, Patterson, Epperson and truthfully, most people in Knox County; families. Wendy http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=binkalex&id=I70

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5176.1 Message Board Post: Hello, Are you speaking of the Daugherty "Daw" BROWN b. Nov 15, 1857 in Knox Co. He was a s/o Stephen BROWN and Thursey Ann BINGHAM. I have that he married Rebecca JACKSON on May 14, 1879 in Knox Co. (Mar. Bk BB & C). Just checked the BINGHAM book for additional information. It says tradition has it that he was killed by Ben GOLDEN but does not say when. He does NOT appear in Knox or Clay Co's as of the 1800 Fed. Census or 1900 Fed. Census. So, I am curious about what information or children, you have about this marriage to a Martha MILLS. I have no other information or date of death on him. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5176 Message Board Post: need someone to look up a marrige for Daugh Brown and Martha Mills around 1880 in Knox or Clay????? thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/4798.1 Message Board Post: I have a partial roster of the home guards, and a after battle report. I have done resarch on this for 5 years. I am a civil war re-enactor who with others paly the home guards in the battle of barbourville, this is our 3rd year doing so

Just wanted to let everyone know I just added a new Cemetery to Tombstone Central. I have added the Gray-Foley Cemetery on RTE 6 in Paint Hill. Happy Hunting. Cassy -- Please check out my new free genealogy site. I am currently looking for others willing to share their photographs as well. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~foe3643/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HELTON, FOLEY, HUBBARD, GOLDEN, PARTIN, PARTON, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/5175 Message Board Post: Morning List Family, well after having half of a longed for wish filled, by the help of a lovely lady that is on our list here, i now own the book ' BARBOURVILLE, LOOKING BACK,' now i'm in search for A PICTURE or PAINTING, that IS there in BARBOURVILLE, here is what i know of the painting, 1. IT HANGS IN A PUBLIC BUILDING s.e; LIBRARY, POST OFFICE, CITY HALL COURT HOUSE ??? exactly where i don't know but i know it is there, in Barbourville Ky, 2. in this picture is A COUPLE, and they are looking off ,(into the past or into the future,perhaps). and it was like a yesteryear picture,... i think, 3. this picture was always spoken of, when MICHAEL MILLS and his books were mentioned, hmm, actually before the book was ever mentioned i seem to remember, but i THINK, the name/title of this picture could be LOOKING BACK, A LOOK BACK, LOOKING FORWARD ???exact title unknown, but like i said it IS there is BARBOURVILLE,(somewhere) 4. the people in the picture are related to me,.... i am a HELTON, FOLEY, HUBBARD,GOLDEN and all the others that go into the HELTON lines there, and of course PARTON/PARTIN, so i think the ones in the picture would be of these blood lines, and there you have it, the OTHER HALF of my wish is to FIND THIS PICTURE-PAINTING-PHOTOGRAPH, and i'd like to have a copy of it, or a snapshot of it, why i'm not really sure, except all my life i've had a deep seeded hunger to KNOW MY PEOPLE there in KENTUCKY, being raised with a daddy who dearly loved and remembered HIS Kentucky, i grew up KNOWING 'about' kentucky and our people there, but never knowing the people themselves, my blood, my family there,until now, and so i NEED to know; WHERE that picture is,.... WHO was the artist, or owner of the picture ? WHAT IS THE PICTURE CALLED ? so my dears as you go about your daily lives, there in my daddys beloved Barborville, PLEASE keep an eye on the WALLS, of the public buildings you enter, and help me fulfill the rest of my heartfelt wish, i'm in your debt, in kinship, Deborah Dora Lee d/o JAY ESTEL PARTON/PARTIN gd/o DORA NETTIE HELTON,& JOHN PARTIN/PARTON of BARBOURVILLE,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/5127.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am the grandaughter of Henry and Etta Barret.I"m glad that you thought they were nice neighbors.When they put in the new road they moved to Barbourville.They are now both deceased.My father is Clarence Barrett and is still living.Hope this finds you well.Carol Barrett Williams

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5173.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I was simply curious about Elizabeth MESSER's date of death since the date stated was so specific and yet the writer did not know the burial place. It's not likely there was any formal death record other than perhaps a Bible record or something like that. I was wasn't questioning the date, simply wanted to know the source. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5173.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Joyce and Randy, That is the same information that I have also. the only difference is that I have Didamy being born in 1856 and that Elizabeth did died on Feb 16, 1856 not 1855. Like Randy I have no source for this information but word of mouth, and the fact that in 1860 Elizabeth is no longer with William and Didamy is still with William which would have been usually back then if Elizabeth was still living. I do have a little information on Didamy's children but nothing on her spouses except for the name and dates. Didamy and Lewis Hale had Nancy b. abt. 1877 and Perry born abt. 1879 Didamy and Elijah had the following five children and what little I have on them: 1) Elijah Hobbs b. May 1853 & Didamy Jackson b. 5 Feb 1856, Knox County, Kentucky m. 3 May 1888, Knox County, Kentucky | (2) Almire Hobbs | b. Apr 1883 | & William Tuttle | | (3) Nora Tuttle | | b. 23 Oct 1912 | | d. 5 Feb 1993 | | bur. Girdler Cemetery, Girdler, Hwy 11, Knox County, Kentucky AKA Hammons Cemetery AKA Jones Cemetery | | ud. dates from tombstone, on web page | | & Paul Jordan | | b. 14 Oct 1906 | | d. 15 Dec 1993 | | bur. Girdler Cemetery, Girdler, Hwy 11, Knox County, Kentucky AKA Hammons Cemetery AKA Jones Cemetery | | ud. dates from tombstone, on web page | | m. 17 Feb 1934, dates From Tombstone, Have Photo | (2) Josephine Hobbs | b. Feb 1886 | (2) Walter Hobbs | b. Jul 1894 | (2) Dempsey Hobbs | b. Apr 1895 | (2) Joseph Hobbs | b. Sep 1896 | & Mahala Unknown | | (3) Dempsy Hobbs | | b. 1917 | | (3) James Hobbs | | b. 1919 Would love to know more if you have different or additional information. Cassy.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5154.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, As far as I know the death records for the State of Kentucky are on line and one can look for one's self. However, I have the KY Death CD's I ordered from the State of Kentucky, so I looked for you. BARRETT, Lovadie, died on 10-24-1918 in Knox Co., KY at the age of 32 years; Vol. 059, Cert #29284 BIRTH CD's: BARRETT, Earl b. 6-30-1913 in Knox Co., Vol. 202-93156; maiden name of mother: Lavada SHELTON You can order the Death Cert for $1.50 from Mr. Chester WARD on line. Go to: http://www.google.com and type in his name on the search line and you should be able to get his web page. For the past couple weeks, I have also seen on line on the Message Boards for Knox and maybe Clay Co. someone advertising free look-ups from the CD's and that they go to Frankfort weekly. So, those are two choices for you. Apparently Lavada SHELTON BARRETT died in the great Spanish Influenza epidemic of abt. 1918 that killed millions of people in that day. Most anyone in KY had someone die during this period. I know I had several relatives who died from this flu. I suspect you are having a hard time locating William BARRETT in Knox Co. because as of 1900, I do not see him or Lavada SHELTON there. I also did not see Lavada in Bell Co. as of 1900. I also did not see them as a couple as of the 1910 Fed. Census for KY. It may be they had not yet married. Hopefully, her death record will shed some light on her parents or birthplace. With regard to William BARRETT, I saw several of them around as of 1910 in Clay, in Laurel, in Bell, etc. but not with a Lavada. With no other information regarding his parentage or age, I cannot provide you any further information. Good luck to you in your search. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA