This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Runyon, Runion, Runnion Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/937.1 Message Board Post: Dear Judy, Your posting was several years ago and I doubt that you will find this message. Robert Runion was the brother of my grandfather John. Robert's wife's name is Selina. I have not been able to find Robert and his family since they left Knox County, KY. Robert's father's name was John and his mother's name was Ann Mariah. They are buried in Knox County, KY.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SAMS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/5838.2 Message Board Post: Hello, Euell/Ewell SAMS married in Bell Co., KY as follows . You might wish to order that record from the court clerk at Pineville, Bell Co., KY. July 13, 1908 SAMS, Euell to SMITH, Nannie - Book 9, Page 124 It may well be that Dexter SAMS married in either Bell or Knox Co.'s. However, none of the transcribed or on line records I have or can view go up into the 1940's which was apparently when they married. On the KBI, I see: SAMS, Victor b. 2-19-1916 in Knox Co.; maiden name of mother: Nannie SMITH SAMS, Dexter b. 1-20-1911 in "Knott" Co. (it prob. was Knox Co. Sometimes the way the microfilm reads Knott and Knox look very much alike. Vol. 7, Cert 2608 I don't know if this is the same Victor SAMS or not; however, from the KDI: Victor SAMS died in Pulaski Co., KY on 2-16-1996 at Somerset at the age of 79 years, Vol. 11, Cert 5225 I am not a SAMS researcher but I do have some information in my data base because of some SAMS marriage connections to my WALKER, MERIDA family connections. I will send that to you. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sams Miller Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/5838.1 Message Board Post: Try the online index : http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyknox/Knox-County-Home.html

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/5838 Message Board Post: I am researching my mother in laws family and her parents were; Dexter Sams b. 20 Jan 1911 d. 1975 m. Effie Miller unsure of the date but thier first child was born in 1944. Dexter was born in Knox Co. unsure on Effie Miller but both of thier children were born in Bell Co. Also a lookup for Ewel Sams and Nannie Smith both born in knox co thier first child was born abt 1910, according to the 1910 census. Thier second child Dexter was born 20 jan 1911. Thanks Kelly

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smith, Gibson, Mills, Henson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/3452.3460.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry, but I dont have any more information on your line..I dont even have who Sallie was married to..

While we`re on the subjest I don`t think anyone knows yet what may have happened to our John dugger sometime after 1850 (if I have thedate correctly). Civil war? Just left? etc. I heard of a friend who discopvered a name chane probably because the family was related and descended fom Rosannah McCoy and hence wanted to escape the stigma of the "Hatfield and McCoy" feud. I had one who was "lost at sea" Well, it turns out he had to go bankrupt in his harness business and i think he "just disappeared" on purpose. Just "yacking" Sue in Al.

Hi Patricia - thanks for your response! You could say I am guilty of all 3 of your suggestions below, - which is why I was trying another angle, as it were. The son-in-law who also seems to disappear, was named William Hales, the spellings for which are multiple. Since they all lived along Laurel Creek, my next challenge is the Hale/s line, into Laurel Co. as well. Was just trying to see if there was anything "historical" that occurred, besides migration farther west, in Knox Co. about the time of the formation of Laurel Co. I appreciate the responses so far - thanks for taking the time. Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Hobson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYKNOX] Tales of a name change With Eleanor's recent posting of the "disappearing" family, I wanted to tell my tale of disappearing relatives & how some of them finally showed up. I was trying hard to trace my gr-gr-grandmother Catherine Johnson & her daughter Maggie. Catherine had married a Wash Johnson in 1863, & I had papers which recorded Maggie's birthdate in 1864. Strangely, the only family member I can find on the 1870 census is Catherine-- living next door to her mother & working as a seamstress. When I checked the 1880 census, I was stumped---where were they? I knew Maggie had lived until 1920. When researching another line, I came across my answer--- well, part of it. In 1871, Catherine Johnson, listed as a widow, had married a David Kirtley. I looked up the 1880 census for Kirtley & found that Catherine had died in 1879 & was therefore on the 1880 Mortality census, and found that Maggie (& a younger brother named William) were listed as Kirtley children. A school census later confirmed that information, and I was able to get funeral home records that gave additional information. A few things remain unresolved. I've never found a death record for Wash Johnson (aka George Washington Johnson) that I could be sure was the correct one. And I've never found Maggie and William on the 1870 census. I suspect they were staying with aunts or uncles, but I've never been able to find the correct combination of names & ages. And finally, I have no idea which William Johnson (of the seemingly four per square mile) was my gr-gr-uncle, & what happened to him. I guess the moral of the tale is 1. Never give up & 2. Work every collateral line in the hopes of turning up clues & 3. Check records that might be off the beaten path. Good luck in all your searches! Pat ==== KYKNOX Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address [email protected] If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/3452.3460.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the reply yes this is my great grandparents. also i find it interesting that silvery died april 29 1928. My grandmother sallie died april 1 1928. My father robert dewey was born in Jan of 1928. he died in 2004 and knew very little about his mother. i would appreciate any information. Thanks Linda

With Eleanor's recent posting of the "disappearing" family, I wanted to tell my tale of disappearing relatives & how some of them finally showed up. I was trying hard to trace my gr-gr-grandmother Catherine Johnson & her daughter Maggie. Catherine had married a Wash Johnson in 1863, & I had papers which recorded Maggie's birthdate in 1864. Strangely, the only family member I can find on the 1870 census is Catherine-- living next door to her mother & working as a seamstress. When I checked the 1880 census, I was stumped---where were they? I knew Maggie had lived until 1920. When researching another line, I came across my answer--- well, part of it. In 1871, Catherine Johnson, listed as a widow, had married a David Kirtley. I looked up the 1880 census for Kirtley & found that Catherine had died in 1879 & was therefore on the 1880 Mortality census, and found that Maggie (& a younger brother named William) were listed as Kirtley children. A school census later confirmed that information, and I was able to get funeral home records that gave additional information. A few things remain unresolved. I've never found a death record for Wash Johnson (aka George Washington Johnson) that I could be sure was the correct one. And I've never found Maggie and William on the 1870 census. I suspect they were staying with aunts or uncles, but I've never been able to find the correct combination of names & ages. And finally, I have no idea which William Johnson (of the seemingly four per square mile) was my gr-gr-uncle, & what happened to him. I guess the moral of the tale is 1. Never give up & 2. Work every collateral line in the hopes of turning up clues & 3. Check records that might be off the beaten path. Good luck in all your searches! Pat

Regarding the "disappearance" of your family b/t 1820 and 1830, it's often said that the simplest answer is most often the correct one. A very large portion of my ancestors left Knox during this time, eventually settling in Missouri. The idea of free land and freedom in general further west was very strong during this period, and for many Knox was just a stopping point on the road.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CBB.2ACE/5836.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much you have really helped me so thank you very much,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CBB.2ACE/5837.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you to those who have responded so far to my query. Wow! Some really good information here to add to what I have. The supposition that Susan belonged to Randolph Adams is correct. I'll have to look more closely at the tombstone but I have several references that the name there is Susan Miller, not Milner. At least, here is information adding to speculation that perhaps she was Benj's sister. If you find family for Armstead and Susan Miller/Milner, I'd love to have that info. One note that I found has the possibility of Benjamin Ohler's father having been Madison with the possibilities of Tom and Ella being other children in the family. In the marriage reports here it lists "bondsman". What is that? Is this for someone marrying underage?? Again my thanks for the great information. It's all worth collecting as each shred adds another clue!

Yes, I have considered that, and a variety of spellings as well. I would consider it a possibility with the son who mar. the TN woman, 'specially since word never filtered back to TN that she was a new widow. I can't help but wonder, however, if there was some kind of disturbance that might have caused him to return to Knox Co. to help his family (or bury them). Thanks, Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYKNOX] 1820s - Disappearance Have you ever thought of a name change. I hadn't either until I started researching one of my uncles. It appears that sometime between 1900 and 1912 the family name was changed from Roark to Maxie for some unexplained reason. That is a hard thing to realize and I was just lucky identifying the families. If it hadn't been for a couple of unusual first names I might have missed it entirely. Jerry. -----Original Message----- From: ELEANOR McCAIN <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 23:42:44 -0400 Subject: RE: [KYKNOX] 1820s - Disappearance Good point! I always felt it has to be something most unusual - son deserted (or simply left with the promise to return) his wife of a few years in Grainger Co., TN, then never is heard from again (he went back home to help out?) - at least as far as any written surviving record is concerned. There, of course, is always the other explanation, that he simply left - but when two families and at least 3-9 individuals just vanish, there has to be more to it. I didn't know if a history of Knox Co. addressed this time frame and its problems. Thanks, Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYKNOX] 1820s - Disappearance Eleanor Scroll down this list of Epidemics to 1822. Could this be a possible cause of your family's disappearance....Lois . Some Of the Major Epidemics in the United States Epidemics have always had a great influence on people ---and thus influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. -------------------------- 1657 Boston: Measles 1687 Boston: Measles 1690 New York: Yellow Fever 1713 Boston: Measles 1729 Boston: Measles 1732-33 Worldwide: Influenza 1738 South Carolina: Smallpox 1739-40 Boston: Measles 1747 Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania & South Carolina: Measles 1759 North America (areas inhabited by white people): Measles 1761-61 North America & West Indies: Influenza 1772 North America: Measles 1775 North America (especially hard in New England): Epidemic (unknown) 1775-76 Worldwide: Influenza 1781-82 Worldwide: Influenza (one of worst flu epidemics) 1788 Philadelphia & New York: Measles 1793 Vermont: Influenza and a "putrid fever" 1793 Virginia: Influenza (kills 500 people in 5 counties in 4 weeks) 1793 Philadelphia: Yellow fever (one of worst) 1783 Delaware (Dover): "extremely fatal" bilious disorder 1793 Pennsylvania (Harrisburg & Middletown): many unexplained deaths 1794 Philadelphia: Yellow fever 1796-97 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever 1798 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever (one of worst) 1803 New York: Yellow Fever 1820-23 Nationwide: "fever" (starts on Schuylkill River, PA & spreads) 1831-32 Nationwide: Asiatic Cholera (brought by English emigrants) 1832 New York & other major cities: Cholera 1837 Philadelphia: Typhus 1841 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (especially severe in South) 1847 New Orleans: Yellow Fever 1847-48 Worldwide: Influenza 1848-49 North America: Cholera 1850 Nationwide: Yellow Fever 1850-51 North America: Influenza 1852 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (New Orleans: 8,000 die in summer) 1855 Nationwide (many parts): Yellow Fever 1857-59 Worldwide: Influenza (one of disease's greatest epidemics) 1860-61 Pennsylvania: Smallpox 1865-73 Philadelphia, New York, Boston, New Orleans, Baltimore, Memphis, & Washington D.C.: a series of recurring epidemics of Smallpox, Cholera, Typhus, Typhoid, Scarlet Fever & Yellow Fever 1873-75 North America & Europe: Influenza 1878 New Orleans: Yellow Fever (last great epidemic of disease) 1885 Plymouth, PA: Typhoid 1886 Jacksonville, Fl: Yellow Fever 1918 Worldwide: Influenza (high point year) More people hospitalized in World War I from Influenza than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps-with 80 percent death rate in some camps. Finally, these specific instances of cholera were mentioned: 1833 Columbus, Ohio 1834 New York City 1849 New York 1851 Coles Co., Illinois 1851 The Great Plains 1851 Missouri . Elijah Bibbins had 400 acres on Laurel Creek, but he "lost it" somehow, in about 1822, and does not show up in later Laurel Co. records or census. Thus my quandary. Thanks for any assistance! Eleanor "Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only spend it once." ==== KYKNOX Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address [email protected] If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. 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Have you ever thought of a name change. I hadn't either until I started researching one of my uncles. It appears that sometime between 1900 and 1912 the family name was changed from Roark to Maxie for some unexplained reason. That is a hard thing to realize and I was just lucky identifying the families. If it hadn't been for a couple of unusual first names I might have missed it entirely. Jerry. -----Original Message----- From: ELEANOR McCAIN <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 23:42:44 -0400 Subject: RE: [KYKNOX] 1820s - Disappearance Good point! I always felt it has to be something most unusual - son deserted (or simply left with the promise to return) his wife of a few years in Grainger Co., TN, then never is heard from again (he went back home to help out?) - at least as far as any written surviving record is concerned. There, of course, is always the other explanation, that he simply left - but when two families and at least 3-9 individuals just vanish, there has to be more to it. I didn't know if a history of Knox Co. addressed this time frame and its problems. Thanks, Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYKNOX] 1820s - Disappearance Eleanor Scroll down this list of Epidemics to 1822. Could this be a possible cause of your family's disappearance....Lois . Some Of the Major Epidemics in the United States Epidemics have always had a great influence on people ---and thus influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. -------------------------- 1657 Boston: Measles 1687 Boston: Measles 1690 New York: Yellow Fever 1713 Boston: Measles 1729 Boston: Measles 1732-33 Worldwide: Influenza 1738 South Carolina: Smallpox 1739-40 Boston: Measles 1747 Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania & South Carolina: Measles 1759 North America (areas inhabited by white people): Measles 1761-61 North America & West Indies: Influenza 1772 North America: Measles 1775 North America (especially hard in New England): Epidemic (unknown) 1775-76 Worldwide: Influenza 1781-82 Worldwide: Influenza (one of worst flu epidemics) 1788 Philadelphia & New York: Measles 1793 Vermont: Influenza and a "putrid fever" 1793 Virginia: Influenza (kills 500 people in 5 counties in 4 weeks) 1793 Philadelphia: Yellow fever (one of worst) 1783 Delaware (Dover): "extremely fatal" bilious disorder 1793 Pennsylvania (Harrisburg & Middletown): many unexplained deaths 1794 Philadelphia: Yellow fever 1796-97 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever 1798 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever (one of worst) 1803 New York: Yellow Fever 1820-23 Nationwide: "fever" (starts on Schuylkill River, PA & spreads) 1831-32 Nationwide: Asiatic Cholera (brought by English emigrants) 1832 New York & other major cities: Cholera 1837 Philadelphia: Typhus 1841 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (especially severe in South) 1847 New Orleans: Yellow Fever 1847-48 Worldwide: Influenza 1848-49 North America: Cholera 1850 Nationwide: Yellow Fever 1850-51 North America: Influenza 1852 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (New Orleans: 8,000 die in summer) 1855 Nationwide (many parts): Yellow Fever 1857-59 Worldwide: Influenza (one of disease's greatest epidemics) 1860-61 Pennsylvania: Smallpox 1865-73 Philadelphia, New York, Boston, New Orleans, Baltimore, Memphis, & Washington D.C.: a series of recurring epidemics of Smallpox, Cholera, Typhus, Typhoid, Scarlet Fever & Yellow Fever 1873-75 North America & Europe: Influenza 1878 New Orleans: Yellow Fever (last great epidemic of disease) 1885 Plymouth, PA: Typhoid 1886 Jacksonville, Fl: Yellow Fever 1918 Worldwide: Influenza (high point year) More people hospitalized in World War I from Influenza than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps-with 80 percent death rate in some camps. Finally, these specific instances of cholera were mentioned: 1833 Columbus, Ohio 1834 New York City 1849 New York 1851 Coles Co., Illinois 1851 The Great Plains 1851 Missouri . Elijah Bibbins had 400 acres on Laurel Creek, but he "lost it" somehow, in about 1822, and does not show up in later Laurel Co. records or census. Thus my quandary. Thanks for any assistance! Eleanor "Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only spend it once." ==== KYKNOX Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address [email protected] If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. 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Good point! I always felt it has to be something most unusual - son deserted (or simply left with the promise to return) his wife of a few years in Grainger Co., TN, then never is heard from again (he went back home to help out?) - at least as far as any written surviving record is concerned. There, of course, is always the other explanation, that he simply left - but when two families and at least 3-9 individuals just vanish, there has to be more to it. I didn't know if a history of Knox Co. addressed this time frame and its problems. Thanks, Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYKNOX] 1820s - Disappearance Eleanor Scroll down this list of Epidemics to 1822. Could this be a possible cause of your family's disappearance....Lois . Some Of the Major Epidemics in the United States Epidemics have always had a great influence on people ---and thus influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. -------------------------- 1657 Boston: Measles 1687 Boston: Measles 1690 New York: Yellow Fever 1713 Boston: Measles 1729 Boston: Measles 1732-33 Worldwide: Influenza 1738 South Carolina: Smallpox 1739-40 Boston: Measles 1747 Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania & South Carolina: Measles 1759 North America (areas inhabited by white people): Measles 1761-61 North America & West Indies: Influenza 1772 North America: Measles 1775 North America (especially hard in New England): Epidemic (unknown) 1775-76 Worldwide: Influenza 1781-82 Worldwide: Influenza (one of worst flu epidemics) 1788 Philadelphia & New York: Measles 1793 Vermont: Influenza and a "putrid fever" 1793 Virginia: Influenza (kills 500 people in 5 counties in 4 weeks) 1793 Philadelphia: Yellow fever (one of worst) 1783 Delaware (Dover): "extremely fatal" bilious disorder 1793 Pennsylvania (Harrisburg & Middletown): many unexplained deaths 1794 Philadelphia: Yellow fever 1796-97 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever 1798 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever (one of worst) 1803 New York: Yellow Fever 1820-23 Nationwide: "fever" (starts on Schuylkill River, PA & spreads) 1831-32 Nationwide: Asiatic Cholera (brought by English emigrants) 1832 New York & other major cities: Cholera 1837 Philadelphia: Typhus 1841 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (especially severe in South) 1847 New Orleans: Yellow Fever 1847-48 Worldwide: Influenza 1848-49 North America: Cholera 1850 Nationwide: Yellow Fever 1850-51 North America: Influenza 1852 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (New Orleans: 8,000 die in summer) 1855 Nationwide (many parts): Yellow Fever 1857-59 Worldwide: Influenza (one of disease's greatest epidemics) 1860-61 Pennsylvania: Smallpox 1865-73 Philadelphia, New York, Boston, New Orleans, Baltimore, Memphis, & Washington D.C.: a series of recurring epidemics of Smallpox, Cholera, Typhus, Typhoid, Scarlet Fever & Yellow Fever 1873-75 North America & Europe: Influenza 1878 New Orleans: Yellow Fever (last great epidemic of disease) 1885 Plymouth, PA: Typhoid 1886 Jacksonville, Fl: Yellow Fever 1918 Worldwide: Influenza (high point year) More people hospitalized in World War I from Influenza than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps-with 80 percent death rate in some camps. Finally, these specific instances of cholera were mentioned: 1833 Columbus, Ohio 1834 New York City 1849 New York 1851 Coles Co., Illinois 1851 The Great Plains 1851 Missouri . Elijah Bibbins had 400 acres on Laurel Creek, but he "lost it" somehow, in about 1822, and does not show up in later Laurel Co. records or census. Thus my quandary. Thanks for any assistance! Eleanor "Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only spend it once." ==== KYKNOX Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address [email protected] If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi, cousins! Does anyone know if the picture I've posted on webshots is Middlesboro High School? It's a picture of girls teams of 1925, '26 & '27. Just click on the link below & go to the old school photos album. (You're quite welcome to look at the other albums, too--- some of them have eastern KY families, names & connections). Plus, if anyone has any identifications, that would be extra- wonderful. Thanks, Pat H. http://community.webshots.com/user/pshobson

Wayne (and others who may not know this), I noticed you replied to the Ohler query via the mailing list. The person posted the query to the Knox County Message Board and may not be subscribed to the list therefore may miss your reply to her query. I know it's happened to me, posting on a board and someone on the list replies via the list and I don't see it unless I happen to be browsing the archives months later :-)! It's nice that the message board and mailing lists are linked but it's only in one direction. That's why the message will include the url directly to the message board. So either go to the message board and reply or you can email them directly as the email addess is displayed in the list version of the posting. Kind regards, Shanan Anderson P.S. I was going to send this only to Wayne but I thought the list might find the information valuable. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Eleanor Scroll down this list of Epidemics to 1822. Could this be a possible cause of your family's disappearance....Lois . Some Of the Major Epidemics in the United States Epidemics have always had a great influence on people ---and thus influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. -------------------------- 1657 Boston: Measles 1687 Boston: Measles 1690 New York: Yellow Fever 1713 Boston: Measles 1729 Boston: Measles 1732-33 Worldwide: Influenza 1738 South Carolina: Smallpox 1739-40 Boston: Measles 1747 Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania & South Carolina: Measles 1759 North America (areas inhabited by white people): Measles 1761-61 North America & West Indies: Influenza 1772 North America: Measles 1775 North America (especially hard in New England): Epidemic (unknown) 1775-76 Worldwide: Influenza 1781-82 Worldwide: Influenza (one of worst flu epidemics) 1788 Philadelphia & New York: Measles 1793 Vermont: Influenza and a "putrid fever" 1793 Virginia: Influenza (kills 500 people in 5 counties in 4 weeks) 1793 Philadelphia: Yellow fever (one of worst) 1783 Delaware (Dover): "extremely fatal" bilious disorder 1793 Pennsylvania (Harrisburg & Middletown): many unexplained deaths 1794 Philadelphia: Yellow fever 1796-97 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever 1798 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever (one of worst) 1803 New York: Yellow Fever 1820-23 Nationwide: "fever" (starts on Schuylkill River, PA & spreads) 1831-32 Nationwide: Asiatic Cholera (brought by English emigrants) 1832 New York & other major cities: Cholera 1837 Philadelphia: Typhus 1841 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (especially severe in South) 1847 New Orleans: Yellow Fever 1847-48 Worldwide: Influenza 1848-49 North America: Cholera 1850 Nationwide: Yellow Fever 1850-51 North America: Influenza 1852 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (New Orleans: 8,000 die in summer) 1855 Nationwide (many parts): Yellow Fever 1857-59 Worldwide: Influenza (one of disease's greatest epidemics) 1860-61 Pennsylvania: Smallpox 1865-73 Philadelphia, New York, Boston, New Orleans, Baltimore, Memphis, & Washington D.C.: a series of recurring epidemics of Smallpox, Cholera, Typhus, Typhoid, Scarlet Fever & Yellow Fever 1873-75 North America & Europe: Influenza 1878 New Orleans: Yellow Fever (last great epidemic of disease) 1885 Plymouth, PA: Typhoid 1886 Jacksonville, Fl: Yellow Fever 1918 Worldwide: Influenza (high point year) More people hospitalized in World War I from Influenza than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps-with 80 percent death rate in some camps. Finally, these specific instances of cholera were mentioned: 1833 Columbus, Ohio 1834 New York City 1849 New York 1851 Coles Co., Illinois 1851 The Great Plains 1851 Missouri . Elijah Bibbins had 400 acres on Laurel Creek, but he "lost it" somehow, in about 1822, and does not show up in later Laurel Co. records or census. Thus my quandary. Thanks for any assistance! Eleanor "Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only spend it once."

Is there anyone who can shed some light on what might have happened (natural disaster, epidemic, family feuds, etc.) in Knox Co. between 1820 & 1830? I have been reading the posts of today, and notice more than once, a researcher has commented on the disappearance of different families after the 1820 census. I realize migration had something to do with this situation, BUT when 2 families (mine) just disappear completely, not to be found anywhere else in 1830 or later, I can't help but wonder if something in the history of Knox Co. might have been responsible. Elijah Bibbins had 400 acres on Laurel Creek, but he "lost it" somehow, in about 1822, and does not show up in later Laurel Co. records or census. Thus my quandary. Thanks for any assistance! Eleanor