Here is something in my notes from Betty who was very close to the family. Polly was an Engle, daughter of Nathaniel Engle and Nervesta (Vesta) Hall. Nathan's parents were Frances (Frank) Engle and Mary (Polly) Adams. Vesta had two children by Nathan, Polly and Benjamin. Then Vesta married Clay Collins. The 1920 census was in error when it listed them as "Collins". Nathan and Vesta's son Benjamin was my husband's father. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Martin" <jdxxm@q.com> To: <kyknott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome Creek Times, Thursday, September 16, 2010 > > This would be easily solved if I could find a marriage record for > Polly Collins to Nathan Engle but no such luck, so far. Will look at > this again tomorrow and then do what JB did last time and get confused > and give up. > > Jack > > On 9/23/2010 5:16 PM, Jbfrancis6@aol.com wrote: >> Carter, I think Polly was dau of Clay Collins and Nervesta Hall. Polly >> first married Nathan Engle. Nathan is son of Benjamin Engle. That is >> what I >> think. JB >> >> >> In a message dated 9/23/2010 6:59:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> lcombs1@windstream.net writes: >> >> Jack >> >> The KBI has the children born to Polly Engle. The 1930 Knott Co Census >> has >> Polly as an Engle. >> >> Carter >> >> 1930 KNOTT COUNTY Census >> >> KENTUCKY DISTRICT 2 DISTRICT 4 >> 98-100 Spencer COMBS head R m w 50 m 21 KYKYKY FArmer General Farm >> Polly wife f w 27 m 19 KYTNKY nee ENGLE >> Edgar son m w 7 s KYKYKY b. 6-8-1922 Knott Co Ky >> Oliver son m w 7 s KYKYKY b. 11-5-1923 Knott Co Ky >> Everett son m w 4 1/12 s KYKYKY Eaverette? b. 3-5-1926 Knott Co Ky >> Ora M. dau f w 1 8/12 s KYKYKY b. 8-6-1928 Knott Co Ky >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jack Martin"<jdxxm@q.com> >> To:<KYKNOTT@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome Creek Times, Thursday, >> September >> 16, 2010 >> >> >>> Darn, this is never easy. JB, Madge fits so nice into this family >>> with >>> the >>> record from the KBI and the census records of Simeon but she is >> missing >>> from >>> this obit. Don't know what to make of that. >>> Here is another question. I have Spencer marrying 2nd Polly Collins >> and >>> here >>> is the record from Gloria's website: >>> >>> Combs >>> >>> Spencer >>> >>> Collins >>> >>> Polly >>> >>> 31 May 1922 >>> >>> Married at Dema, Kentucky by Elijah Hale in the presence of Melvin >>> Amburgey >>> and Cassie Amburgey >>> Attest: John Sturgill DC-County Court Clerk Bk 16 pg 49 >>> >>> Yet Polly wrote the obit and says he married Polly Engle. She should >>> know >>> her last name?? She was 19 when she married first according to the >>> 1930 >>> census which would match with this marriage so don't think she was >>> an >>> Engle >>> who first married a Collins. Any thoughts anyone? >>> Jack >>> On 9/23/2010 3:46 PM, [1]Jbfrancis6@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> Lynda, Madge is new to me. But, the census record certainly shows >>> her >>> as >>> highly likely dau of Spencer. But maybe not. Here is Obit of >>> Spencer: >>> Combs, Spencer ~ With a sad and lonely heart I will try to write an >>> obituary of my beloved husband, Spencer Combs, born January 18, 1880, >> in >>> Knott >>> >>> County .He was the son of Andrew and Nancy Combs. He had 11 brothers, >>> Sam, >>> Watson, Cullen, Simeon, Riley, Melvin, Ira, Andrew, Mat, Alvin and >> Doctor. >>> His father and mother and 8 brothers preceded him in death- He married >>> Cordelia Amburgey, daughter of Hiram and Dicie Amburgey. To them was >> born >>> thre >>> e >>> children, Carl Combs, and Mrs. Fred Gioza, both of Phoenix, Arizona, >> and >>> Mrs. >>> Clyde West, who preceded in him death. Cordelia died about 1912. He >> lived >>> alone with his children 10 years and then married Polly Engle. To them >>> was >>> born eleven children, 7 girls and 4 boys. Edgar, Washington, D. C; >>> Oliver, >>> Everett and Pearlie all of Dayton, Ohio; Mrs. Allen Budd and Mrs. >> Gilbert >>> Edwards of Marshall, Va ; Carson, Ula Vale, Alpha Louise and Ortha >>> Lida >>> Combs all of Carr Creek, Ky. He was a good citizen, loved his >>> neighbors >> >>> and wa >>> s >>> loved and respected by all who knew him. He joined the Old Regular >>> Baptist >>> Church and was baptized at the Old Carr School house in 1947. He >>> prayed >>> most of the time while he was sick and one night he dreamed he was in >> the >>> church house in the side next to the road and there was something in >> the >>> other >>> >>> side trying to get to him to hang him some way and he was scared and >>> tried >>> to get away from Jr. He went to the door and it opened itself so he >>> went >>> out and there was a light shining from Heaven brighter than day, >> shining >>> out >>> the road that he could see to walk away from whatever was after him, >>> so >>> he >>> got away from it through that light. He died the 16th and would have >> been >>> 72, the 18th. I did. all I could for him and regret, that I couldn't >>> do >>> more. He left us to mourn his loss, though I believe our loss is >> Heavens >>> gain. >>> >>> I have great hope that I will meet him in the glory world and am >>> praying >>> that our children will join us up there, where I believe my darling >>> little >>> daughter that preceded him in death is resting now. Written by a >>> lonely >>> wife, Polly Combs ~ Carr Creek, Ky. >>> >>> Here is note in my record for Cornilia. She is buried in the Carr >>> Fork >>> Memorial and I have a pic on her. JB >>> "Cordelia died after the birth of daughter Violet and Spencer >>> remarried. >>> Their other children were Carl and Lola." >>> Birth: Oct. 30, 1882 >>> Littcarr >>> Knott County >>> Kentucky, USA >>> Death: May 14, 1912 >>> Kentucky, USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 9/23/2010 5:29:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [2]LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com writes: >>> >>> If Madge's mother, Cordelia, died right after her birth then that >>> would >>> explain why she was raised by Simeon and Mary Combs. >>> >>> Lynda >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 9/23/2010 12:56:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [3]Jbfrancis6@aol.com writes: >>> >>> Cordelia died at age 30. Born 30 Oct 1882 >>> and Died 14 May 1912. JB >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 9/22/2010 10:05:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [4]LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com writes: >>> >>> Simeon Combs's brother Spencer md Cordelia Amburgey d/o Hiram& >>> Leodicy >>> >>> >>> Adams Amburgey. 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