OOOH! Jack. I remember going through all this a couple years ago. I got confused and quit. See my notes below: JB From: shirley couch To: _KyPerryKnott@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:KyPerryKnott@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: [KyPerryKnott] polly engle/ spencer combs?? i have a polly engle born 15 oct 1902 died 26 0ct 1988 married to spencer combs born 1880 died 1952 it says that polly parents was nathan engle and nervista hall , i have a polly engle who parents was nathan thomas engle born abt 1817 and juda or judith hall born about 1880 they lived in leslie, ky could these be the same people ? does anyone know who henry engle and nervita hall parents was? 1910 Knott Co Ky Transcribed by Louise Gaskill 20-20 COLLINS Clay 22 Head md 7 yrs TN TN TN Nervesty Jane 30 wife 6/5 KY KY KY ENGLE, Benjamon 10 son KY Polley 7 dau KY COLLINS, Corsia 5 dau Ky Luther? 2 son KY Merlin 6/12 son KY 1920 Knott Co Census, Upper Carr Pct by Lynda Combs Gipson 200-204 Collins Clay Head M W 33 M TnTnTn Farmer 200-204 Collins Vester Wife F W 40 M KyKyKy 200-204 Collins Ben Son M W 20 S KyTnKy 200-204 Collins Polly Dau F W 17 S KyTnKy 200-204 Collins Corsie Dau F W 15 S KyTnKy 200-204 Collins Luther Son M W 12 S KyTnKy 200-204 Collins Maryland Son M W 10 S KyTnKy 200-204 Collins Myrtle Dau F W 8 S KyTnKy 200-204 Collins Henry John Son M W 5 S KyTnKy 200-204 Collins Coy Son M W 3 S KyTnKy I found Polly's parents on the 1900 census. 1900 Leslie Co., KY census CUTSHIN PCT Series: T623 Roll: 538 Page: 45 June 7, 1900 87-87 Adams Frazier Head WM Apr 1872 28 M? KYKYVA 87-87 Adams Martha Wife WF Mar 1873 27 M1yr 2/2 KYKYKY 87-87 Adams Joseph L. Son WM Apr 1900 2/12 S KYKYKY 87-87 Shell John Stepson WM May1895 5 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Benjaman Head WM Apr 1855 45 M23yr KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Linda Wife FW May1855 45 M23yr 11/9 KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Andrew Son WM Jan 1883 17 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Mary J. Dau WF June1885 14 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle William ?I? Son WM Mar 1888 12 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Patsy Dau WF Mar 1892 8 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Dicy Dau WF June1894 5 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Polly Dau WF May1896 4 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle James Son WM May1900 0/12 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Nathan Son WM Aug 1880 19 M1yr KYKYKY<<<<<<<<< 88-88 Ingle Vesty D-in-Law WF Dec 1878 21 M1yr 2/2 KYKYKY<<<<<<<<< 88-88 Ingle Arizona Gr.Dau WF June1897 2 S KYKYKY 88-88 Ingle Benjamin Gr.Son WM Apr 1900 2/12 S KYKYKY 89-89 Adams Soloman Head WM Feb 1845 55 M35yr KYNCVA 89-89 Adams Elizabeth Wife WF Dec 1844 55 M35yr 7/7 VAVATN 89-89 Adams Elizabeth Dau WF Feb 1877 23 S KYKYVA 89-89 Adams Monroe Son WM May1879 21 S KYKYVA 90-90 Adams Lilly Head WM May1883 17 M0yr KYKYVA 90-90 Adams Rosa Wife WF June1884 15 M0yr 0/0 KYKYKY I'm still confused as to the parents of Nathan Engle and also his wife Vesty. Any help would be appreciated. Debbie T. In a message dated 9/23/2010 6:48:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jdxxm@q.com writes: Darn, this is never easy. JB, Madge fits so nice into this family with the record from the KBI and the census records of Simeon but she is missing from this obit. Don't know what to make of that. Here is another question. I have Spencer marrying 2nd Polly Collins and here is the record from Gloria's website: Combs Spencer Collins Polly 31 May 1922 Married at Dema, Kentucky by Elijah Hale in the presence of Melvin Amburgey and Cassie Amburgey Attest: John Sturgill DC-County Court Clerk Bk 16 pg 49 Yet Polly wrote the obit and says he married Polly Engle. She should know her last name?? She was 19 when she married first according to the 1930 census which would match with this marriage so don't think she was an Engle who first married a Collins. Any thoughts anyone? Jack On 9/23/2010 3:46 PM, [1]Jbfrancis6@aol.com wrote: Lynda, Madge is new to me. But, the census record certainly shows her as highly likely dau of Spencer. But maybe not. Here is Obit of Spencer: Combs, Spencer ~ With a sad and lonely heart I will try to write an obituary of my beloved husband, Spencer Combs, born January 18, 1880, in Knott County .He was the son of Andrew and Nancy Combs. He had 11 brothers, Sam, Watson, Cullen, Simeon, Riley, Melvin, Ira, Andrew, Mat, Alvin and Doctor. His father and mother and 8 brothers preceded him in death- He married Cordelia Amburgey, daughter of Hiram and Dicie Amburgey. To them was born thre e children, Carl Combs, and Mrs. Fred Gioza, both of Phoenix, Arizona, and Mrs. Clyde West, who preceded in him death. Cordelia died about 1912. He lived alone with his children 10 years and then married Polly Engle. To them was born eleven children, 7 girls and 4 boys. Edgar, Washington, D. C; Oliver, Everett and Pearlie all of Dayton, Ohio; Mrs. Allen Budd and Mrs. Gilbert Edwards of Marshall, Va ; Carson, Ula Vale, Alpha Louise and Ortha Lida Combs all of Carr Creek, Ky. He was a good citizen, loved his neighbors and wa s loved and respected by all who knew him. He joined the Old Regular Baptist Church and was baptized at the Old Carr School house in 1947. He prayed most of the time while he was sick and one night he dreamed he was in the church house in the side next to the road and there was something in the other side trying to get to him to hang him some way and he was scared and tried to get away from Jr. He went to the door and it opened itself so he went out and there was a light shining from Heaven brighter than day, shining out the road that he could see to walk away from whatever was after him, so he got away from it through that light. He died the 16th and would have been 72, the 18th. I did. all I could for him and regret, that I couldn't do more. He left us to mourn his loss, though I believe our loss is Heavens gain. I have great hope that I will meet him in the glory world and am praying that our children will join us up there, where I believe my darling little daughter that preceded him in death is resting now. Written by a lonely wife, Polly Combs ~ Carr Creek, Ky. Here is note in my record for Cornilia. She is buried in the Carr Fork Memorial and I have a pic on her. JB "Cordelia died after the birth of daughter Violet and Spencer remarried. Their other children were Carl and Lola." Birth: Oct. 30, 1882 Littcarr Knott County Kentucky, USA Death: May 14, 1912 Kentucky, USA In a message dated 9/23/2010 5:29:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [2]LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com writes: If Madge's mother, Cordelia, died right after her birth then that would explain why she was raised by Simeon and Mary Combs. Lynda In a message dated 9/23/2010 12:56:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [3]Jbfrancis6@aol.com writes: Cordelia died at age 30. Born 30 Oct 1882 and Died 14 May 1912. 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