----- Original Message ----- From: "dmsst" <dmsst@woh.rr.com> To: <kyknott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:19 AM Subject: Fw: [KYKNOTT] Fwd: Fwd: Re: obits--Troublesome Creek Times, Thursday, September 16, 2010 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dmsst" <dmsst@woh.rr.com> > To: <kyknott@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:16 AM > Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] Fwd: Fwd: Re: obits--Troublesome Creek Times, > Thursday, September 16, 2010 > > >> Jack and others: >> This is the reply I received on why some of the messages are bouncing. >> Mine are also bouncing. >> >> "RootsWeb uses SORBS as a spam filtering tool and on occasion (more >> frequently of late) legitimate servers and legit ISPs find their way onto >> the >> SORBS blacklist as being spammers. Resending the list mail until it goes >> through >> successfully is the only solution" >> >> Debbie T. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jack Martin" <jdxxm@q.com> >> To: <KYKNOTT@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:16 PM >> Subject: [KYKNOTT] Fwd: Fwd: Re: obits--Troublesome Creek Times, >> Thursday, September 16, 2010 >> >> >>> >>> This one has bounced twice now?? >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> >>> Subject: Fwd: Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome Creek Times, Thursday, >>> September 16, 2010 >>> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:14:33 -0600 >>> From: Jack Martin [1]<jdxxm@q.com> >>> To: [2]KYKNOTT@rootsweb.com >>> >>> This is the 3rd message I have had to resend because they bounced the >>> first >>> time?? >>> >>> Carter, JB, >>> I think this info from Betty and the census records JB has on Clay >>> Collins clears it up. I am going to show her as an Engle who was raised >>> by a Collins when her mother remarried. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jack >>> >>> On 9/23/2010 7:15 PM, Carter Combs wrote: >>>> Here is something in my notes from Betty who was very close to the >>>> family. >>>> >>>> Polly was an Engle, daughter of Nathaniel Engle and Nervesta (Vesta) >>>> Hall. >>>> Nathan's parents were Frances (Frank) Engle and Mary (Polly) Adams. >>>> Vesta >>>> had two children by Nathan, Polly and Benjamin. Then Vesta married Clay >>>> Collins. The 1920 census was in error when it listed them as "Collins". >>>> Nathan and Vesta's son Benjamin was my husband's father. >>>> Betty >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jack Martin"[3]<jdxxm@q.com> >>>> To:[4]<kyknott@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:46 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome Creek Times, Thursday, >>>> September >>>> 16, 2010 >>>> >>>> >>>>> This would be easily solved if I could find a marriage record for >>>>> Polly Collins to Nathan Engle but no such luck, so far. Will look at >>>>> this again tomorrow and then do what JB did last time and get confused >>>>> and give up. >>>>> >>>>> Jack >>>>> >>>>> On 9/23/2010 5:16 PM, [5]Jbfrancis6@aol.com wrote: >>>>>> Carter, I think Polly was dau of Clay Collins and Nervesta Hall. >>>>>> Polly >>>>>> first married Nathan Engle. Nathan is son of Benjamin Engle. That >>>>>> is >>>>>> what I >>>>>> think. JB >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In a message dated 9/23/2010 6:59:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>>> [6]lcombs1@windstream.net writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> Jack >>>>>> >>>>>> The KBI has the children born to Polly Engle. The 1930 Knott Co >>>>>> Census >>>>>> has >>>>>> Polly as an Engle. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carter >>>>>> >>>>>> 1930 KNOTT COUNTY Census >>>>>> >>>>>> KENTUCKY DISTRICT 2 DISTRICT 4 >>>>>> 98-100 Spencer COMBS head R m w 50 m 21 KYKYKY FArmer General Farm >>>>>> Polly wife f w 27 m 19 KYTNKY nee ENGLE >>>>>> Edgar son m w 7 s KYKYKY b. 6-8-1922 Knott Co Ky >>>>>> Oliver son m w 7 s KYKYKY b. 11-5-1923 Knott Co Ky >>>>>> Everett son m w 4 1/12 s KYKYKY Eaverette? b. 3-5-1926 Knott Co Ky >>>>>> Ora M. dau f w 1 8/12 s KYKYKY b. 8-6-1928 Knott Co Ky >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Jack Martin"[7]<jdxxm@q.com> >>>>>> To:[8]<KYKNOTT@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:48 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome Creek Times, Thursday, >>>>>> September >>>>>> 16, 2010 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Darn, this is never easy. JB, Madge fits so nice into this >>>>>>> family >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> record from the KBI and the census records of Simeon but she is >>>>>> missing >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> this obit. Don't know what to make of that. >>>>>>> Here is another question. I have Spencer marrying 2nd Polly >>>>>>> Collins >>>>>> and >>>>>>> here >>>>>>> is the record from Gloria's website: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Combs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Spencer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Collins >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Polly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 31 May 1922 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Married at Dema, Kentucky by Elijah Hale in the presence of >>>>>>> Melvin >>>>>>> Amburgey >>>>>>> and Cassie Amburgey >>>>>>> Attest: John Sturgill DC-County Court Clerk Bk 16 pg 49 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yet Polly wrote the obit and says he married Polly Engle. She >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> her last name?? She was 19 when she married first according to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> 1930 >>>>>>> census which would match with this marriage so don't think she >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> Engle >>>>>>> who first married a Collins. Any thoughts anyone? >>>>>>> Jack >>>>>>> On 9/23/2010 3:46 PM, [[9]1]Jbfrancis6@aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lynda, Madge is new to me. But, the census record certainly shows >>>>>>> her >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> highly likely dau of Spencer. But maybe not. Here is Obit of >>>>>>> Spencer: >>>>>>> Combs, Spencer ~ With a sad and lonely heart I will try to write >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> obituary of my beloved husband, Spencer Combs, born January 18, >>>>>>> 1880, >>>>>> in >>>>>>> Knott >>>>>>> >>>>>>> County .He was the son of Andrew and Nancy Combs. He had 11 >>>>>>> brothers, >>>>>>> Sam, >>>>>>> Watson, Cullen, Simeon, Riley, Melvin, Ira, Andrew, Mat, Alvin >>>>>>> and >>>>>> Doctor. >>>>>>> His father and mother and 8 brothers preceded him in death- He >>>>>>> married >>>>>>> Cordelia Amburgey, daughter of Hiram and Dicie Amburgey. To them >>>>>>> was >>>>>> born >>>>>>> thre >>>>>>> e >>>>>>> children, Carl Combs, and Mrs. Fred Gioza, both of Phoenix, >>>>>>> Arizona, >>>>>> and >>>>>>> Mrs. >>>>>>> Clyde West, who preceded in him death. Cordelia died about 1912. >>>>>>> He >>>>>> lived >>>>>>> alone with his children 10 years and then married Polly Engle. To >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> born eleven children, 7 girls and 4 boys. Edgar, Washington, D. C; >>>>>>> Oliver, >>>>>>> Everett and Pearlie all of Dayton, Ohio; Mrs. Allen Budd and Mrs. >>>>>> Gilbert >>>>>>> Edwards of Marshall, Va ; Carson, Ula Vale, Alpha Louise and Ortha >>>>>>> Lida >>>>>>> Combs all of Carr Creek, Ky. He was a good citizen, loved his >>>>>>> neighbors >>>>>>> and wa >>>>>>> s >>>>>>> loved and respected by all who knew him. He joined the Old Regular >>>>>>> Baptist >>>>>>> Church and was baptized at the Old Carr School house in 1947. He >>>>>>> prayed >>>>>>> most of the time while he was sick and one night he dreamed he was >>>>>>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>> church house in the side next to the road and there was >>>>>>> something in >>>>>> the >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> >>>>>>> side trying to get to him to hang him some way and he was scared >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> tried >>>>>>> to get away from Jr. He went to the door and it opened itself so >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> went >>>>>>> out and there was a light shining from Heaven brighter than day, >>>>>> shining >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> the road that he could see to walk away from whatever was after >>>>>>> him, >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> got away from it through that light. He died the 16th and would >>>>>>> have >>>>>> been >>>>>>> 72, the 18th. I did. all I could for him and regret, that I >>>>>>> couldn't >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> more. He left us to mourn his loss, though I believe our loss is >>>>>> Heavens >>>>>>> gain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have great hope that I will meet him in the glory world and am >>>>>>> praying >>>>>>> that our children will join us up there, where I believe my >>>>>>> darling >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> daughter that preceded him in death is resting now. Written by a >>>>>>> lonely >>>>>>> wife, Polly Combs ~ Carr Creek, Ky. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is note in my record for Cornilia. She is buried in the >>>>>>> Carr >>>>>>> Fork >>>>>>> Memorial and I have a pic on her. JB >>>>>>> "Cordelia died after the birth of daughter Violet and Spencer >>>>>>> remarried. >>>>>>> Their other children were Carl and Lola." >>>>>>> Birth: Oct. 30, 1882 >>>>>>> Littcarr >>>>>>> Knott County >>>>>>> Kentucky, USA >>>>>>> Death: May 14, 1912 >>>>>>> Kentucky, USA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a message dated 9/23/2010 5:29:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>>>> [[10]2]LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If Madge's mother, Cordelia, died right after her birth then that >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> explain why she was raised by Simeon and Mary Combs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lynda >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a message dated 9/23/2010 12:56:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>>>> [[11]3]Jbfrancis6@aol.com writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cordelia died at age 30. Born 30 Oct 1882 >>>>>>> and Died 14 May 1912. JB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a message dated 9/22/2010 10:05:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight >>>>>>> Time, >>>>>>> [[12]4]LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simeon Combs's brother Spencer md Cordelia Amburgey d/o Hiram& >>>>>>> Leodicy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adams Amburgey. 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