Here is Spencers second marriage record: JB KNOTT COUNTY MARRIAGE BOOK 16 Page 49 REGISTER OF MARRIAGE Full names of parties, Husband: Spencer Combs Wife: Polly Collins By Whom Married: Elijah Hale Place of Marriage: Bath County of Knott Kentucky. Date of Marriage: May 31, 1922 Witnesses: Melvin Amburgey and Cassie Amburgey Age of Husband 42 years;Condition, Widowed Age of Wife 20 years; Condition, Single Race: White Husband`s Place of Birth: Letcher Co. Residence: Spider Wife`s Place of Birth: Knott Co. Residence: Spider Names of Parents of Husband: Andrew Combs and Nancy Combs Names of Parents of Wife: Clay Collins and Vasty Collins Occupation of Husband: Farmer Date of License: 30 day of May 1922 John Sturgill Clerk RECORD OF MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE I, Elijah Hale a Justice of the Peace , or religious order of that name, do certify that on the 31 day of May 1922, at Bath Kentucky, under authority of the above license, I united in Marriage Spencer Combs and Polly Collins, the persons named and described therein, in the presence of Melvin Amburgey and Cassie Amburgey I qualified and gave bond, according to law, authorizing me to celebrate the rites of Marriage in the County of Knott State of Kentucky. Given under my hand, this 31 day of May 1922 Elijah Hale A Copy,Attest: John Sturgill Clerk Transcribed on January 17, 2007 by Connie Spurlock In a message dated 9/23/2010 8:54:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jdxxm@q.com writes: Carter, I found this one in the KBI: Eula V Combs 4 Apr 1938 Pollie Collins Knott She is listed in the obit that JB has. I also see the kids in the 1930 census born to mother Pollie Engle. Didn't help clear things up, just further confused. Jack On 9/23/2010 4:59 PM, Carter Combs wrote: Jack The KBI has the children born to Polly Engle. The 1930 Knott Co Census has Polly as an Engle. Carter 1930 KNOTT COUNTY Census KENTUCKY DISTRICT 2 DISTRICT 4 98-100 Spencer COMBS head R m w 50 m 21 KYKYKY FArmer General Farm Polly wife f w 27 m 19 KYTNKY nee ENGLE Edgar son m w 7 s KYKYKY b. 6-8-1922 Knott Co Ky Oliver son m w 7 s KYKYKY b. 11-5-1923 Knott Co Ky Everett son m w 4 1/12 s KYKYKY Eaverette? b. 3-5-1926 Knott Co Ky Ora M. dau f w 1 8/12 s KYKYKY b. 8-6-1928 Knott Co Ky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Martin" [1]<jdxxm@q.com> To: [2]<KYKNOTT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome Creek Times, Thursday, September 16, 2010 Darn, this is never easy. JB, Madge fits so nice into this family with the record from the KBI and the census records of Simeon but she is missing from this obit. Don't know what to make of that. Here is another question. I have Spencer marrying 2nd Polly Collins and here is the record from Gloria's website: Combs Spencer Collins Polly 31 May 1922 Married at Dema, Kentucky by Elijah Hale in the presence of Melvin Amburgey and Cassie Amburgey Attest: John Sturgill DC-County Court Clerk Bk 16 pg 49 Yet Polly wrote the obit and says he married Polly Engle. She should know her last name?? She was 19 when she married first according to the 1930 census which would match with this marriage so don't think she was an Engle who first married a Collins. Any thoughts anyone? Jack On 9/23/2010 3:46 PM, [[3]1]Jbfrancis6@aol.com wrote: Lynda, Madge is new to me. But, the census record certainly shows her as highly likely dau of Spencer. But maybe not. Here is Obit of Spencer: Combs, Spencer ~ With a sad and lonely heart I will try to write an obituary of my beloved husband, Spencer Combs, born January 18, 1880, in Knott County .He was the son of Andrew and Nancy Combs. He had 11 brothers, Sam, Watson, Cullen, Simeon, Riley, Melvin, Ira, Andrew, Mat, Alvin and Doctor. His father and mother and 8 brothers preceded him in death- He married Cordelia Amburgey, daughter of Hiram and Dicie Amburgey. To them was born thre e children, Carl Combs, and Mrs. Fred Gioza, both of Phoenix, Arizona, and Mrs. Clyde West, who preceded in him death. Cordelia died about 1912. He lived alone with his children 10 years and then married Polly Engle. To them was born eleven children, 7 girls and 4 boys. Edgar, Washington, D. C; Oliver, Everett and Pearlie all of Dayton, Ohio; Mrs. Allen Budd and Mrs. Gilbert Edwards of Marshall, Va ; Carson, Ula Vale, Alpha Louise and Ortha Lida Combs all of Carr Creek, Ky. He was a good citizen, loved his neighbors and wa s loved and respected by all who knew him. He joined the Old Regular Baptist Church and was baptized at the Old Carr School house in 1947. He prayed most of the time while he was sick and one night he dreamed he was in the church house in the side next to the road and there was something in the other side trying to get to him to hang him some way and he was scared and tried to get away from Jr. He went to the door and it opened itself so he went out and there was a light shining from Heaven brighter than day, shining out the road that he could see to walk away from whatever was after him, so he got away from it through that light. He died the 16th and would have been 72, the 18th. I did. all I could for him and regret, that I couldn't do more. He left us to mourn his loss, though I believe our loss is Heavens gain. I have great hope that I will meet him in the glory world and am praying that our children will join us up there, where I believe my darling little daughter that preceded him in death is resting now. Written by a lonely wife, Polly Combs ~ Carr Creek, Ky. Here is note in my record for Cornilia. She is buried in the Carr Fork Memorial and I have a pic on her. JB "Cordelia died after the birth of daughter Violet and Spencer remarried. Their other children were Carl and Lola." Birth: Oct. 30, 1882 Littcarr Knott County Kentucky, USA Death: May 14, 1912 Kentucky, USA In a message dated 9/23/2010 5:29:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [[4]2]LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com writes: If Madge's mother, Cordelia, died right after her birth then that would explain why she was raised by Simeon and Mary Combs. Lynda In a message dated 9/23/2010 12:56:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [[5]3]Jbfrancis6@aol.com writes: Cordelia died at age 30. Born 30 Oct 1882 and Died 14 May 1912. JB In a message dated 9/22/2010 10:05:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [[6]4]LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com writes: Simeon Combs's brother Spencer md Cordelia Amburgey d/o Hiram & Leodicy Adams Amburgey. I bet Madge is Cordelia's (Delia?) child. 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