Lynda, Thank you, this is what I was looking for. It just adds to my thoughts that the Nathan that married Nervesta is the son of Benjamin Engle. Note Nervesta had a son with Clay Collins that she named John Henry probably after her father. Anyone know what Polly's surname is that married John Henry Hall? Jack On 9/24/2010 10:09 PM, LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com wrote: > > There were two Nervesta Halls, one born in 1861 and one in 1878. The one > born in 1861 married Will Singleton, one married first Nathan Engle and > then Clay Collins. > > Here are the two in the 1880 census....... > > 1880 Perry Co Ky Dist 2 > > 470-476 Hall Phillip W. M W 56 M Va NC Va b. 5/27/1823 d. 4/17/1914 s/o > John/Elizabeth Whisman Hall > > 470-476 Hall Elizabeth Wife F W 55 M Ky NC Va b. 18 Oct 1823 d. 28 Jan > 1892 m. 6/3/1855 > 470-476 Hall Eli Son M W 23 S Ky Farm laborer, b. 7 March 1857 m. Susan > Combs > 470-476 Hall Nervesta Jane Dau F W 19 S Ky b. 1861 m William C. > Singleton HH# 526 Nov 1886 > 470-476 Hall Lucinda Dau F W 17 S Ky m. Hiram s/o Clark& Dicy Caudill > Ingram > 470-476 Hall Collumbus Son M W 13 ? Ky b. 25 May 1867 d. 1935 m. Dulcena > Combs 5 Jan 1891 > 470-476 Branson Green NR M W 18 S KyKyKy Previously listed as James > > > 1880 Perry Co Ky, Dist 2 > > 564-573 Hall John Henry M W 24 M KyKyKy Possible duplicate of HH# 313 > 564-573 Hall Polly Wife F W 18 M KyKyKy > 564-573 Hall Nervesta Dau F W 1 ? Ky > Lynda > > > In a message dated 9/24/2010 9:42:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Jbfrancis6@aol.com writes: > > Jack, I think this is where we ended a couple years ago. I know Debbie > has Nathan and Nevesta as son and dau-in-law of Benjamin and Malinda. So > did > I until today. I can't explain the 1900 census. > > > In a message dated 9/24/2010 9:08:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jdxxm@q.com writes: > > > JB, > > I am not ready to take this to the bank yet. I realize Nathan Engle is a > close relative of Betty and she is probably correct that Nathan who > married Nevesta Hall is the s/o Francis Engle. However, I can't find > another Nevesta or Vesta in the 1900 census that matches like the one we > found married to Nathan and living in his parents home, Ben and Linda. > They even have a son Benjamin who appears in the 1910 census with his > mother Vesta after she married Clay Collins. Hate to be so hard headed > but I need some evidence of another Nathan married to another Vesta in > 1900 with another son Benjamin. Does anyone have a record that would > help explain this? > > Jack > > On 9/24/2010 5:51 PM, Jbfrancis6@aol.com wrote: >> Glo, all I can say for sure is the nathan engle you have should be > married >> to Nevesta Hall. I followed the discussion on the other Nanthan > Engle, >> but did not record it I am telling you what I remember. It was on > another >> site. I remember Norma Adams posting some info. I remember him being > > shot >> the day after release from prison etc. I think there was a new paper >> article. At first I thought it was the Nathan I had. Debbie may have > gotten the >> jest of it. You can take to the bank that Nathan son of Francis Engle >> and Mary Adams was husband of Nevesta Hall. Nevesta later married > Clay >> Collins. JB >> >> >> In a message dated 9/24/2010 7:10:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> glomrc@yahoo.com writes: >> >> So you are saying that I have this reversed? >> >> glo >> >> --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Jbfrancis6@aol.com<Jbfrancis6@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> From: Jbfrancis6@aol.com<Jbfrancis6@aol.com> >>> Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome Creek Times, Thursday, >> September 16, 2010 >>> To: kyknott@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 6:28 PM >>> Glo, this Nathan Engle is the one >>> married to Nevesta Hall. Seems there >>> was a discussion this summer about another Nathan who >>> was shot and killed by >>> the sheriff of Perry County the day after he got out >>> of prison for killing >>> his father in law. If I recall correctly, this is >>> the Nathan that was >>> married to Delilah Stsurgill and Susan Cornett, could >>> be wrong. Then another >>> Nathan died in prison. I started to >>> get them mixed up also. But today >>> Betty Engle sent me an email to confirm that Nathan >>> who married Nevesta Hall >>> is son of Francis Engle and Mary Adams. Francis >>> is son of Nathan Thomas >>> Engle and Juda Hall. JB >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 9/24/2010 5:55:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight >>> Time, >>> glomrc@yahoo.com >>> writes: >>> >>> I also have a Nathan that is the s/o Francis Engle >>> & Mary Polly Adams, but >>> I have that Nathan married to Delilah Sturgill& >>> Susan Cornett. >>> >>> glo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Jbfrancis6@aol.com >>> <Jbfrancis6@aol.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> From: Jbfrancis6@aol.com >>> <Jbfrancis6@aol.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome Creek >>> Times, Thursday, >>> September 16, 2010 >>>> To: kyknott@rootsweb.com >>>> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 4:54 PM >>>> And here is what Betty said, >>>> "Nathan's parents were Francis (Frank) and >>> Mary Polly >>>> Adams Engle. You >>>> also have Spencer's parents right and Polly did >>> marry >>>> Spencer Combs" >>>> >>>> JB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 9/24/2010 4:03:58 P.M. Eastern >>> Daylight >>>> Time, >>> > Jbfrancis6@aol.com >>>> writes: >>>> >>>> Yes Jack. I have that census. >>> That is why >>> > I am asking Betty again. >>> JB >>> > >>>> In a message dated 9/24/2010 3:43:14 P.M. >>> Eastern >>>> Daylight Time, >>> > jdxxm@q.com writes: >>>> JB, >>> > >>>> Doesn't this look like Nervesta and >>> Nathan? If >>>> so it appears Nathan's >>>> father is Benjamin Engle, mother >>> Linda UNK. >>>> 1900 census, Cutshin Prec Mag Dist 3, Leslie, >>> KY, 7 >>>> Jun 1900. >>>> HH 88/88 Benjaman Ingle age 45, wife Linda >>> age 45, >>>> son Andrew age 17, >>>> daughter Mary J age 14, son William J age >>> 12, >>>> daughters Patsy age 8, >>>> Dicy age 5, Polly age 4, sons James age 0 >>> months, >>>> Nathan age 19, >>>> daughter in law Vesty age 21, grand >>> daughter Arizona >>>> age 2, grand son >>>> Benjamin age 2 months. Benjaman and >>> Linda married 23 >>>> years. Linda mother >>>> of 11 children, 9 living. Nathan and Vesty >>> married 2 >>>> years. Vesty mother >>>> of 2 children, 2 living. >>> > >>>> Jack >>>> >>>> On 9/24/2010 10:30 AM, Jbfrancis6@aol.com >>>> wrote: >>>>> Yes Lynda, I have that. That is what >>>> I was basing my statement >>> on. >>>> But, >>> > > have since found an email from >>> Betty who >>>> says that Clay Collins is >>>> > stepfather and Nathan Engle is >>>> father. Betty's husband is son >>> of >>>> Benjamin Engle >>> > > brother to Polly. So, >>> I must take >>>> her statement >>> as fact. JB >>>> > >>>>> In a message dated 9/23/2010 11:19:32 >>> P.M. >>>> Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>> LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com >>> > writes: >>>> > JB, >>>>> I had this marriage record that says Polly >>> was a COLLINS. >>> > > KNOTT COUNTY MARRIAGE BOOK 16 >>> Page 49 >>>>> REGISTER OF MARRIAGE >>>>> Full names of parties, >>>>> Husband: Spencer Combs >>> > > >>> Wife: Polly Collins >>>>> By Whom Married: Elijah Hale >>>>> Place of >>> Marriage: Bath, County >>>> of Knott Kentucky. >>>>> Date of Marriage: May >>> 31, 1922 >>>>> Witnesses: Melvin >>> Amburgey and Cassie >>>> Amburgey >>>>> Age of Husband 42 >>>> years;Condition, Widowed >>>>> Age of Wife 20 >>>> years; Condition, Single >>>>> Race: White >>>>> Husband`s Place >>> of Birth: >>>> Letcher Co. >>> Residence: Spider >>>>> Wife`s Place of Birth: Knott >>>> Co. Residence: Spider >>>>> Names of Parents of Husband: >>> Andrew Combs >>>> and Nancy Combs >>>>> Names of Parents of Wife: Clay >>> Collins and >>>> Vasty Collins >>>>> Occupation of Husband: Farmer >>>>> Date of License: 30 day >>>> of May 1922 >>>>> John Sturgill Clerk >>>> > By_______ D.C. >>>> > >>>>> RECORD >>> OF MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE >>>>> I, Elijah Hale a Justice of the Peace >>> , >>>> or religious order of >>> that >>>> name, >>>>> do certify that on >>> the 31 day of May >>>> 1922, at Bath Kentucky, under >>>> > authority >>>> > of the above license, I united >>> in >>>> Marriage Spencer Combs >>> and Polly >>> > > Collins, the persons named and >>> described >>>> therein, in the presence of >>>> > Melvin >>>>> Amburgey and Cassie Amburgey >>> > > I qualified and gave >>> bond, according >>>> to law, authorizing me to >>>> celebrate >>>>> the rites of Marriage in the >>> County of >>>> Knott State of Kentucky. >>>>> Given under my hand, this 31 day of >>>> May 1922 >>>> > Elijah Hale >>>>> A Copy,Attest: >>> John Sturgill Clerk >>>>> By___________________ >>> D.C. >>>>> Transcribed on January 17, 2007 by >>>> Connie Spurlock >>>> > >>>>> Lynda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Jbfrancis6@aol.com<Jbfrancis6@aol.com> >>> > >> Subject: >>> Re: [KYKNOTT] obits--Troublesome >>> > Creek Times, Thursday, >>>>> September 16, 2010 >>>>>> To: >>> kyknott@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Date: Thursday, September 23, >>>> 2010, 7:16 PM >>> > >> Carter, I think Polly was dau of >>> Clay >>>>>> Collins and >>> Nervesta >>>> Hall. Polly >>>> >> first married Nathan >>>> Engle. Nathan is son of >>>> >> Benjamin Engle. >>> That is >>>> what I >>>>>> think. 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