J B Is that called "thinking outside the box". <g> Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jbfrancis6@aol.com> To: <kyknott@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] New Start on Elizabeth Fuller > > Carter, You have got your Thinking Cap on today. I will try to find out. > Jenny has the original image. She checked it for me yesterday on the > informant. JB > > > > In a message dated 9/8/2010 12:03:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lcombs1@windstream.net writes: > > This is probably a real long shot but do you think maybe that on the dc > for > Elizabeth, the original dc had Elizabeth Dorcas instead of Elizabeth Lucas > and someone transcribed it incorrectly? > > Carter > > > > DEATH CERTIFICATE > ELIZABETH LUCAS COMBS > Commonwealth of Virginia > Vital Statistics > Date 031050 > Cert: # 23069 > Name: Elizabeth Lucas Combs > Female, White, Widowed > Age: 71 yrs 7 mos 17 days > Occupation: Housewife > Place of Death: Cedar Creek, Virginia Bath Co > Birth Date: 16 Feb 1879 > Place of Birth: Sassafras, Kentucky-Knott Co > Spouse: Fielding Charles Combs > Father: Not Given > Mother: Mary Fuller > Informant: Woodrow Patton > Death Date: 03 Oct 1950 > Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemorrhage > Signed: Ira Howbayer 04 Oct 1950 > Burial Place: Cochran Creek Cemetery > Rimel, WV 06 Oct 1950 > Undertaker: Charles N. Lourney > File Date: 09 Nov 1950 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com> > To: <KYKNOTT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] New Start on Elizabeth Fuller > > >> You know, I wasn't sure before but now I'm beginning to think that >> Elizabeth & Dorcus Fuller are one and the same. In the 1880 census >> Archibald & >> Dicy don't list an Elizabeth as a daughter. And neither can I find a >> marriage >> record for Elizabeth & Fielding......only Sylvania & Dorcas. >> >> 1880 Perry Co Ky, Dist 2 part 1 >> 259-266 Fuller Archabald M W 45 M KyKyKy Farmer, s/o Elijah & > Elizabeth >> Messer Fuller >> 259-266 Fuller Dicy Wife F W 46 M KyKyKy m. 22 Feb 1857 d/o Ira Silas & >> Perminia Combs Couch >> 259-266 Fuller Martin Son M W 14 ? Ky Farm laborer, Martin V. md. > Nancy >> Ritchie on 30 June 1888 >> 259-266 Fuller Lourenzo Son M W 12 ? Ky >> 259-266 Fuller Christopher Son M W 10 ? Ky >> 259-266 Fuller Hosey Son M W 8 ? Ky md. Adaline Combs, 14 July 1904 >> Perry Co., Ky. >> 259-266 Fuller Doctor Levi Son M W 6 ? Ky m. Cynthia ? >> 259-266 Fuller Solomon Son M W 5 ? Ky >> 259-266 Fuller Nancy Dau F W 4 ? Ky >> 259-266 Fuller Dorcus Dau F W 2 ? Ky >> 259-266 Fuller Mary NR F W 40 ? Ky Domestic Servant >> 259-266 Fuller Elijah Father M W 90 ? NCNCNC b. 1790 North Carolina m. >> Elizabeth Messer >> 259-266 Fuller Sally Ann NR F W 1 ? KyKyKy >> >> Lynda >> >> >> In a message dated 9/8/2010 8:46:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> dmsst@woh.rr.com writes: >> >> JB: >> I think that is correct. Dorcus Fuller d/o Archibald married Fielding >> Combs >> s/o Jackson. >> I am going to connect them, but haven't done it yet. >> Debbie >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Jbfrancis6@aol.com> >> To: <kyknott@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 9:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] New Start on Elizabeth Fuller >> >> >>> OK I am asking you another question. What do you think about Darcus >>> the >>> widow, being the 1st wife of Fielding Charles Combs? >>> 1896 May 20. Knott Co. Marriage: Fuller Dorcas, Combs Fielding, >>> 1896-05-20, KC-MB3 (Knott Co., Ky. Kinfolk). >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 9/7/2010 8:37:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> dmsst@woh.rr.com writes: >>> >>> Your asking me??? I gave up on this one, but will give you my >>> thoughts >> on >>> it. >>> >>> Elizabeth Fuller that married Jiddy Hays I feel was only married to >> Jiddy >>> Hays. This Elizabeth Fuller is d/o Archibald Fuller & Dicie Combs > per >>> her >>> 1948 DC. >>> >>> Darcus Fuller d/o Archibald Fuller & Dicie Combs/Couch appears on > 1900 >>> census as Darkis Combs widow. This is the Darcus Fuller that I > believe >>> went >>> on to marry Frank Ritchie >>> 1900 Buchanan Co., VA census >>> Rock Lick Magisterial District >>> June 16, 1900 >>> 261-262 Fuller Lee J. Head WM Apr 1865 35 M4yrs KYKYKY >>> 261-262 Fuller Tennessee Wife WF May 1871 29 M4yrs 0/0 WVWVWV >>> 261-262 Fuller Lewis D. Brother WM Nov 1865 34 S KYKYKY >>> 261-262 Combs Darkis Sister WF Apr 1878 22 WD 2/2 KYKYKY >>> 261-262 Combs Joseph Nephew WM Oct 1897 2 S KYKYKY >>> 261-262 Fuller Hossie Brother WM Sept 1873 26 S KYKYKY >>> 261-262 Hall Emmanuel Cousin WM Apr 1875 25 S KYKYKY >>> >>> As to the Elizabeth that married Fielding Combs. Don't know. >>> >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <Jbfrancis6@aol.com> >>> To: <kyknott@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:58 PM >>> Subject: [KYKNOTT] New Start on Elizabeth Fuller >>> >>> >>>>I think went went to far out of the question. I wonder where >>>>Debbie >> is? >>>> Here is the total question: Who is the Elizabeth that was married >>>> to >>>> Fielding Charles Combs after he divorced Sylania Engle. This >>> Elizabeth >>>> was >>>> the Daughter of Mary Fuller per DC. We don't know who Mary is. >>> Somehow >>>> Elizabeth got linked to Lucas and Dooley surnames. So, none of >>>> this >>>> relates >>>> to Elizabeth dau of Arch Fuller. Here are my notes: >>>> >>>> Mothers name was Mary Fuller. Source is DC. In my photo records. >>>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> 1880 Perry Co., KY, HH#259-266 >>>> Census Place Perry, Kentucky >>>> Archabald FULLER Self M Male W 45 KY Farmer KY KY >>>> Dicy FULLER Wife M Female W 46 KY Keeping House KY KY >>>> Martin FULLER Son Male W 14 KY Farm Laborer KY KY >>>> Lourenzo FULLER Son S Male W 12 KY KY KY >>>> Christopher FULLER Son S Male W 10 KY KY KY >>>> Hosey FULLER Son S Male W 8 KY KY KY >>>> Doctor Livi FULLER Son S Male W 6 KY KY KY >>>> Soloman FULLER Son S Male W 5 KY KY KY >>>> Nancy FULLER Dau S Female W 4 KY KY KY >>>> Darcus FULLER Dau S Female W 2 KY KY KY >>>> Mary FULLER Other Female W 40 IA Domestic Servant NC KY <<<<<* >>>> Elijah FULLER Father Male W 90 IA KY KY >>>> Sally Ann FULLER Other S Female W 1 KY KY KY >>>> * Could be mother of Elizabeth below. JB >>>> >>>> DEATH CERTIFICATE >>>> ELIZABETH LUCAS COMBS >>>> Commonwealth of Virginia >>>> Vital Statistics >>>> Date 031050 >>>> Cert: # 23069 >>>> Name: Elizabeth Lucas Combs >>>> Female, White, Widowed >>>> Age: 71 yrs 7 mos 17 days >>>> Occupation: Housewife >>>> Place of Death: Cedar Creek, Virginia Bath Co >>>> Birth Date: 16 Feb 1879 >>>> Place of Birth: Sassafras, Kentucky-Knott Co >>>> Spouse: Fielding Charles Combs >>>> Father: Not Given >>>> Mother: Mary Fuller >>>> Informant: Woodrow Combs (Son) >>>> Death Date: 03 Oct 1950 >>>> Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemorrhage >>>> Signed: Ira Howbayer 04 Oct 1950 >>>> Burial Place: Cochran Creek Cemetery >>>> Rimel, WV 06 Oct 1950 >>>> Undertaker: Charles N. Lourney >>>> File Date: 09 Nov 1950 >>>> Submitted by Jenny Combs >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: _Jbfrancis6@aol.com_ (mailto:Jbfrancis6@aol.com) >>>> To: _CJenRN@aol.com_ (mailto:CJenRN@aol.com) >>>> Sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 7:13 pm >>>> Subject: Elizabeth >>>> Jenny, I am a little slow, so you will need to over looks some of >>>> my >>>> questions. >>>> Here is part of your Gen Rpt >>>> ". FIELDING CHARLES1 COMBS1 was born October 03, 1866 in > Sassafrass >>>> Kentucky1, and died November 22, 1939 in Mountain Grove (Bath Co.) >>>> Virginia2. >>>> He married (1) ELIZABETH FULLER DOOLEY34. She was born February > 16, >>> 1879 >>>> in >>>> Kentucky5, and died October 03, 1950 in Hot Springs,( Bath County) >>>> Virginia6. He married (2) SYLVIAINA ENGLE September 22, 1885 in > Perry >>>> County, >>>> KY. She was born January 10, 1875 in Perry Co. Kentucky7, and died >>>> February >>>> 12, 1922 in Knott Co. Kentucky7." >>>> >>>> Question? Is Elizabeth Fuller Dooley the same as Elizabeth Lucas. >> And >>>> which Elizabeth is in the Pic with Fielden. Was Elizabeth married >>>> to >>>> Dooley >>>> before Fielden? OR did I read one of your emails wrong about >>>> Lucas. >>>> >>>> JB >>>> -------------------------------Answer from Jenny Combs >>> below------------- >>>> JB, >>>> The Family Thought it was either Fuller or Dooley, if you read >>>> the >>>> Obituaries I sent you will see some say Fuller, others may say > Dooly. >>>> Anyhow her >>>> Death Cert. Says Lucas, But lists her mother as Mary Fuller. But, > I >>>> think >>>> it was Fuller. She is the same woman that is in the Photo I sent. >>> Keep >>>> asking anthing you like. >>>> Talk to you soon Jenny >>>> >>>> Jenny Email 27 Oct 2007 >>>> Okay- I have talked with several family members about this Dooley >>>> situation. It is still unclear, but, the family story is that >>>> Elizabeth >>>> Fuller/Lucas/ Dooley Combs, mother Mary Fuller( Full Cherokee >> indian) >>>> brought a >>>> fellow by the name of Tom Dooley to High Top Mountain Several times >>>> to >>>> visit. >>>> Not sure if they were married, friends etc, But it was assumed by >>>> the >>>> family that he was Elizabeth's father. But, Fielden's children >> thought >>> a >>>> lot of >>>> Mr. Dooley, he was very nice, and kind. >>>> --Another note: I was told that they thought Elizabeth Fuller was >>>> a >>> twin >>>> and somehow her twin was burned in a fire, she was wearing a dress > and >>>> wherever she was, it caught fire and she died. >>>> >>>> END >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 9/7/2010 5:57:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> glomrc@yahoo.com writes: >>>> >>>> JB >>>> I can't get this straight. Sylvania that married Fielden and >>>> William >>>> Thacker have a 10 years difference in age. >>>> >>>> glo >>>> >>>> --- On Tue, 9/7/10, Jbfrancis6@aol.com <Jbfrancis6@aol.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Jbfrancis6@aol.com <Jbfrancis6@aol.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] Elizabeth Fuller >>>>> To: kyknott@rootsweb.com >>>>> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 12:02 PM >>>>> Carter, he was married at least >>>>> twice. Once to the Elizabeth/Darcus we >>>>> have been discussing and he married Sylvania >>>>> Engle. Sylvania remarried >>>>> later to William Thacker. JB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 9/7/2010 9:37:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight >>>>> Time, >>>>> lcombs1@windstream.net >>>>> writes: >>>>> >>>>> I have been reading all of the posts about the >>>>> families of Fielding >>>>> Charles >>>>> Combs. Are you saying that he was married twice or >>>>> three times? >>>>> >>>>> Carter >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Gloria" <glomrc@yahoo.com> >>>>> To: <kyknott@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:05 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] Elizabeth Fuller >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Someone else transcribed it so I don't know for >>>>> sure. >>>>> >>>>> DEATH CERTIFICATE >>>>> ELIZABETH LUCAS COMBS >>>>> Commonwealth of Virginia >>>>> Vital Statistics >>>>> Date 031050 >>>>> Cert: # 23069 >>>>> Name: Elizabeth Lucas Combs >>>>> Female, White, Widowed >>>>> Age: 71 yrs 7 mos 17 days >>>>> Occupation: Housewife >>>>> Place of Death: Cedar Creek, Virginia Bath Co >>>>> Birth Date: 16 Feb 1879 >>>>> Place of Birth: Sassafras, Kentucky-Knott Co >>>>> Spouse: Fielding Charles Combs >>>>> Father: Not Given >>>>> Mother: Mary Fuller >>>>> Informant: Woodrow Patton >>>>> Death Date: 03 Oct 1950 >>>>> Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemorrhage >>>>> Signed: Ira Howbayer 04 Oct 1950 >>>>> Burial Place: Cochran Creek Cemetery >>>>> Rimel, WV 06 Oct 1950 >>>>> Undertaker: Charles N. Lourney >>>>> File Date: 09 Nov 1950 >>>>> Submitted by Jenny Combs >>>>> >>>>> --- On Tue, 9/7/10, LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com >>>>> <LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > From: LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com >>>>> <LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [KYKNOTT] Elizabeth Fuller >>>>> > To: KYKNOTT-L@rootsweb.com >>>>> > Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 1:56 AM >>>>> > This gets more and more complicated. >>>>> > On Elizabeth's DC I only showed >>>>> > Woodrow (no last name). I can't explain why the >>>>> one you >>>>> > refer to has him as a >>>>> > Patton. >>>>> > >>>>> > I did notice that Fielden Charles Combs DC had >>>>> his >>>>> > son, Woodrow Combs, as >>>>> > the informant. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Name: Fielding Charles Combs >>>>> > Born: October 3, 1866 in Sassafrass Ky >>>>> > Died: November 22, 1939 >>>>> > Place of Death: Bath County, VA >>>>> > Parents: Not listed. >>>>> > Wife listed: Elizabeth Lucas Combs >>>>> > Buried in Private Cemetery on November 24, 1939 >>>>> > Informant: Woodrow Combs (Son) >>>>> > Undertaker: Charles Loving >>>>> > Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemorrhage >>>>> > ( Certificate of Death Commonwealth of VA) >>>>> > Bath County Courthouse transcribed by Jenny >>>>> Combs) >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Lynda >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > In a message dated 9/7/2010 1:24:17 A.M. Eastern >>>>> Daylight >>>>> > Time, >>>>> > glomrc@yahoo.com >>>>> > writes: >>>>> > >>>>> > Her Dc says her mother is Mary Fuller. 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