This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BBB.2ACI/1714.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sandy, I don't have any direct connection to the Havens. In my quest to establish the parents of Alfred Williams I've tap danced around any number of collateral lines. Please email me directly at crice@pullman.com. I do have a copy of a letter that may be of interest to you. Cindy