So sorry to hear about your husband's death, my prayers will be with you. Just a e-mail buddy of the web site. Brenda

Sharon, I am so sad for you and your family. I did not know he was ill. My thoughts and prayers are with and the ones left behind. I know what you mean by letting God's nature keep the memories and remind us of those who have gone to their heavenly reward. May God's Blessings keep and guide you and your family. Let's keep in touch. With a saddened heart, Garnett McKenzie Skaggs ----- Original Message ----- From: "olliecox" <olliecox@mrtc.com> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: [KYJOHNSON] Just letting you all know > It is with a sad heart that I write of the loss of my husband of 35 years on Thursday March 18. Though he had been ill with Black Lung for the last 10 years, this was so unexpected to us all. We who are left behind have many good memories of this great and wonderful man, though he was a kind simple person, he made our lives. We will carry on with the thoughts that someday we will see him again, and that now he can walk where he wants without the smothering that so troubled him. He will be with us always in the sun, the wind and the rain, the flowers that bloom and the gently falling snow, we have nothing but good memories of our husband and father. Remember our family when you say your prayers, and don't put off to long if you need to tell someone you love them, or to give them that one last kiss and hug. Life is so short compared to the hours and minutes without them. In loving memory of Ollie Cox. > Sharon > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.639 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 3/22/2004

Sharon, please know that you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers! Know that God is there for you in these troubled times! :) Julie Van Hoose Hussain

Sharon, I offer my heartfelt condolences to you. Please know you are in my prayers. Ann

It is with a sad heart that I write of the loss of my husband of 35 years on Thursday March 18. Though he had been ill with Black Lung for the last 10 years, this was so unexpected to us all. We who are left behind have many good memories of this great and wonderful man, though he was a kind simple person, he made our lives. We will carry on with the thoughts that someday we will see him again, and that now he can walk where he wants without the smothering that so troubled him. He will be with us always in the sun, the wind and the rain, the flowers that bloom and the gently falling snow, we have nothing but good memories of our husband and father. Remember our family when you say your prayers, and don't put off to long if you need to tell someone you love them, or to give them that one last kiss and hug. Life is so short compared to the hours and minutes without them. In loving memory of Ollie Cox. Sharon

The Senate did not vote on the vital records bill yesterday. (HB100) They passed it over and did not vote on it. It still could come up for a vote before the sessions ends. To make your feelings known, contact the Senate: Out of State 502-564-8100 In Kentucky: 1-800-372-7181 You can leave a message for ALL Senators. If you do not live in Kentucky tell them that this bill affects your right to information about your family who died in Kentucky. Other states have solved the identity theft issue by issuing certificates that are non-certified and stamped "For Genealogical Use Only - Not For Identification." Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 HB 100

I've gotten so many requests that I'd better clarify how to get copies of the non-certified death certificates for 1911 - 1953 from the Kentucky Historical Society. You have to GO to the Kentucky Historical Society in Frankfort to copy them yourself for .30. You can also request a library reference person to copy it for you by mail or online. The charge is $5 if you are in-state or $12 if you are out-of-state. If you want more than one certificate use the Staff Researcher service which is hourly. $25 per hour (or $15 if you are a member of the Kentucky Historical Society.) They can copy several in an hour. Please us the online index to get the certificate number and year that it was filed. (usually this is the same year as the death.) One of the easiest to use is the Kentucky Vital Records Project of the Kentucky Gen Web. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygenweb/kvrp/ You can order the certificates online with a credit card from the Kentucky Historical Society. Go to http://history.ky.gov Click on "Shop the 1792 Store" Click on "research" By mail with a check in advance: Kentucky Historical Society Library 100 W. Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601

Glen, I did not have this information. Thank you very much. It enforces my thought that this is the correct Ross Smith. It also gave me some more information I did not have. Jas. H.(Haden) Smith`s first wife was Rutha Rowland, sister to my grandfather Daniel Rowland. Jas. H. Smith and Rutha Rowland had two sons, Henderson and Powell Smith. Thank you again for this information. Barb Johnson Williston, FL e-mail: ronbar@atlantic.net

--part1_147.251b9d83.2d90870b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barb, I have info from pension file of Luvisa Smith, widow of Covington Smith. I believe they are parents of your Ross or Roscoe Smith. I am attaching that file. Did you have this already? Glenn Blevins --part1_147.251b9d83.2d90870b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="PENCOVSM.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="PENCOVSM.TXT" Info extracted from pension file of Luvisa Smith, widow of Covington Smith; No. 735,405 - Declarations for Widows Pension - Morgan Co., KY 20 Oct 1911 - Luvisa Smith, age 69 - resident of Mima, KY - widow of Covington Smith - he enrolled at Catlettsburg, KY on 27 Aug 1863 as private in Co. C 45th KY Mtd Inf - honorably discharged 24 Dec 1864 - Luvisa Cantrell m. Covington Smith at Relief, KY on 22 Aug 1861 by Hardy Williams - her 1st marriage - Covington previously married and divorce granted in=20 about the year 1859 in Morgan Co., KY - Covington Smith died 25 July 1911 at Redbush, KY - he left 12 children all of whom she is the mother & all living and over 16 years of age - attested by Powell Smith & James Bradley; both have been acquainted with her for 10 years - Covington Smith replies to questions - currently married to Luvisa Smith maiden name Luvisa Cantrell - m. about 23 Aug 1861 at Relief, Morgan Co., KY by=20 Rev. H H Williams - marriage on record at county court clerks office - previously married to Elizabeth Lemaster; divorced in about the year 1858 - Children living: Preston Smith b. Dec 24th 1862; Jas H Smith April 16 1864; Duvall Smith Nov 22 1866; Tureasy Smith May 30 1868; Mary J Smith Aug 16 1870; Jasper Smith Apl 27 1872; Lucinda O? Smith Jan 3 1874; Armstrong Smith Feby 18 1876; Raney P Smith July 6 1878; Rosco Smith Jun 16 1892; Phroney Smith Mch 20 1880; Mima Smith June 20 1882 - dated May 4th 1898 - Jane stays among them and has no permanent home - name of a friend who would be willing to write them about this case: A J Spradlin, Win KY - sworn to on 24 July 1912 in Magoffin Co., KY Morgan Circuit Court - Nov 20th 1911 - copy of divorce rendered in Morgan Ciruit Court - Covington Smith plaintiff vs. Elizabeth Smith defendant - November term, 19th day Dec 5th 1859 [???] - Divorce recorded in order Book No. 8, pp98, Morgan Circuit court Affidavit by Elijah Smith - Morgan Co., KY - Elijah Smith age 65, resident of Dingus, KY - he has known Covington Smith and his widow Louisa Smith for some years before they were married to each other - they lived together since the marriage until the death of soldier - attested by E. Smith & Dolly Smith - 5 Dec 1911 Application for Invalid Pension - claimant Covington Smith - P. O. Releif, KY - Private, Co. C 45 KY Mtd Inf - disabled by rheumatism dis heart & throat - Approvals - submitted for adm. 13 May 1892 - 08 June 1892; approved for rheumatism and disease of heart and throat $8 - no other notable disability shown - Service record - enlisted 18 Aug 1863; honorably discharged 24 Dec 1864 - declaration filed 09 June 1891; alleges permanent disability from general devility; affidavit filed Nov 16 1891 avers measles, weak back, dis of lungs and rheumatism, all prior to June 9, 1891; affidavit filed Mar 23 1892 avers disease of throat prior to June 9, 1891 Application for Increase of Pension - Covington Smith a resident of Relief, Morgan Co., KY - unable to earn a support by manual labor by reason of rheumatism, weakness of eyes back & etc. - he is a pensioner under the Act of June 27 1890, enrolled at the Louisville Pension Agency at the rate of $8 per month, Certificate No. 783827 - witnessed by C C Doolin & N A Doolin - C C Doolin & Miss Nettie Doolin reside at Mima, KY; both have been acquainted with Covington Smith for 20 years - E A Holbrook of Relief, KY and John T? Smith of Relief, KY also appeared; declare they have known Covington Smith for 20 years - sworn to 27 Dec 1897 - filed by Wm D Boyd of Toms? KY Claim for Covington Smith - Johnson Co., KY; 20 Dec 1897 - Covington Smith, age 55, resident of Relief, Morgan Co., KY - he was a private in Co. C 45 regt of KY inf vols & is a pensioner of the US enrolled at Louisville KY Pension Agency at rate of $8 per month bu cert. no. 783827 by reason of disease of rheutism disease of heart and throat - requesting pension increase to $12 per month - current pension rate is unjustly to low and not in accordance with his disability and not in proportion to the rate allowed others for similar and equivalent disabilities - Wm D Boyd of Toms KY his agent to represent him - witnessed by E A Holbrook & John T? Smith - signed by Covington Smith Drop Order and Report - Covington Smith, Cert. No. 783,827 dropped from roll - he died July 25, 1911 - last paid $12 per month to May 4, 1911 - dated Oct 13, 1911 Pensioner Dropped - May 22, 1917 - Luvisa Smith last paid at $20, to Feb 4, 1917 - dropped because of death, about Mch 1st 1917 Ltr from A O Stanley, United States Senate Committe on Interstate Commerce to Hon. Washington Gardner, Commissioner of Pensions - dated Nov 26, 1923 - in regard to claim of Ross Smith, infant son of - Covington Smith obtained pension at rate of $12 per month, but his son has no papers connecting the transfer to him, except a will, executed by his mother, L. Smith, widow of Covington Smith. - he was 19 years old when his father Covington Smith died - will advise him if this evidence is sufficient or what further is necessary Letter signed by John V. Ward - River, KY; 12 Apr 1934 - Roscoe Smith of Redbush, KY asked me to take up his case with Veterans Administration - Roscoe disabled from birth and was over age of 16 at time of fathers death - Roscoe has no breast bone & has been that way from birth --part1_147.251b9d83.2d90870b_boundary--

Glen, Thank you. That is the same family that Dave sent me information on and I believe it is the Ross Smith I was looking for. My mom seems to remember him being older with two daughters and a son. With her being a child she probably would think he was older. Thanks again. Barb Johnson Williston, FL e-mail: ronbar@atlantic.net

The Kentucky Death certificates for 1911-1953 are available on microfilm at the Kentucky Historical Society and other genealogical libraries in Kentucky. At KHS the cost is .30 each. The deaths are indexed online at: Rootsweb http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi (1911-2000) Vital Search http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ (1911-2002) University of Kentucky http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ (1911-1986) This will not change if the legislation passes. Only the later certificates will not be available. Sharon

In the 1930 Morgan Co., KY census there is a Roscoe Smith (age 37), wife Monnie (35) with children Louise (11), Fay (9), Eugene (7), Pauline (4) and Edra (2). Let me know if this is your Ross. Glenn Blevins

Bill and Ann, Thank you both so much. Ross Smith would have been there in the latter thirties or early forties. Another list member sent me some information on Ross C. Smith but my Mom seems to think that he was to young and had to many children to be the one she was thinking of. But when you are a child 40 or 50 seems old and he could have had more children than she knew of. And when you get Mom`s age, your memory dims. I appreciate any thing help. Thank you again. Barb Johnson Williston, FL e-mail: ronbar@atlantic.net

The Kentucky Legislature is getting ready to drastically limit access to Kentucky vital records including BIRTHS, DEATHS, MARRIAGES, and DIVORCE. (MILITARY RECORDS are also being limited but I do not know which bill is involved.) You can find the entire bill at: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/04rs/HB100/SCS1.doc Death certificates will still be public record after 50 years but more recent death certificates will only be available to: 1. the decedent's widow or widower, 2. child eighteen (18) years of age or older 3. parent 4. grandparent 5. sibling eighteen (18) years of age or older 6. funeral director handling the decedent's funeral arrangements 7. personal representative of the decedent's estate 8. a named beneficiary of an insurance policy of the decedent 9. a person with a claim against the decedent's estate This means that genealogists can no longer order great-uncle Jasper's death certificate to see his parents' names. Birth records will be have limited access while the person is living but will still be public record after 100 years. Divorce and marriage records will be closed for 70 years. We are very late in the process. Jan 6-introduced in House; to Health and Welfare (H) Jan 15-posted in committee Jan 29-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Jan 30-2nd reading, to Rules; floor amendment (1) filed to Committee Substitute Feb 2-posted for passage in the Regular Orders of the Day for Tuesday, February 3, 2004 Feb 10-3rd reading, passed 94-2 with Committee Substitute, floor amendment (1) Feb 11-received in Senate Feb 17-to State and Local Government (S) Mar 16-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Mar 17-2nd reading, to Rules THIS TUESDAY, March 23, this bill will be voted on in the full Senate. If it passes, it will go to Gov. Fletcher for his signature into law. Call and email your senator and let him know that you want HB 100 to fail. Time is critical! Do it by Monday, at the latest. You can find your Senator at http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/whoswho/whoswho.htm Telephone: 502-564-8100 FAX : 502-564-6543 Postal address: 700 Capitol Avenue, Frankfort, KY 40601 Toll Free Numbers - 2004 Session (only for Kentucky) Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 Legislative Message Line: 1-800-372-7181 This is the same bill that failed in committee during the last Legislative session. The genealogists of the state worked together to stop its passage. Please pass this information along to others.

Oops! I had the wrong price. Please note the correct information below. Sharon Kentucky residents may be interested in attending a series of discussions about Kentucky life in the Great Depression sponsored by the Kentucky Historical Society. The Great Depression started earlier and lasted longer in Kentucky than it did in more urban states. Spend four evenings with noted historians Tracy Campbell and David Hamilton in a series of lively discussions about Kentucky life throughout the 1930s. The four topics to be discussed are: * "Kentucky during the Great Depression." Tracy Campbell begins the series with a detailed look at the impact of the Great Depression on the commonwealth. Thursday, April 8 * "Rural Life and the New Deal." David Hamilton shares how the New Deal affected the lives of rural Kentuckians. Thursday, May 13 * "Franklin Roosevelt in Kentucky." Tracy Campbell returns to discuss the public response to President Roosevelt's visit to Kentucky and his New Deal policy. Thursday, June 10 * "Depression Diversions: 1930s Popular Culture." David Hamilton concludes by exploring books, movies, music, and other aspects of cultural life in the thirties. Thursday, July 8 Background reading materials will be provided and a Depression-era dessert will be served at each session. All sessions begin at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky History Center. The fee is $45 for members of the Kentucky Historical Society or $50 non-KHS members. Preregistration and prepayment are required because attendance is limited. You may register and pay with a credit card by calling Joanie DiMartino at (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467. Kentucky Historical Society Attn: Joanie DiMartino 100 West Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601 (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467 <mailto:joanie.dimartino@ky.gov> joanie.dimartino@ky.gov. <http://history.ky.gov/> http://history.ky.gov <http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm> http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm

Kentucky residents may be interested in attending a series of discussions about Kentucky life in the Great Depression sponsored by the Kentucky Historical Society. The Great Depression started earlier and lasted longer in Kentucky than it did in more urban states. Spend four evenings with noted historians Tracy Campbell and David Hamilton in a series of lively discussions about Kentucky life throughout the 1930s. The four topics to be discussed are: * "Kentucky during the Great Depression." Tracy Campbell begins the series with a detailed look at the impact of the Great Depression on the commonwealth. Thursday, April 8 * "Rural Life and the New Deal." David Hamilton shares how the New Deal affected the lives of rural Kentuckians. Thursday, May 13 * "Franklin Roosevelt in Kentucky." Tracy Campbell returns to discuss the public response to President Roosevelt's visit to Kentucky and his New Deal policy. Thursday, June 10 * "Depression Diversions: 1930s Popular Culture." David Hamilton concludes by exploring books, movies, music, and other aspects of cultural life in the thirties. Thursday, July 8 Background reading materials will be provided and a Depression-era dessert will be served at each session. All sessions begin at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky History Center. The fee is $40 for members of the Kentucky Historical Society or $45 non-KHS members. Preregistration and prepayment are required because attendance is limited. You may register and pay with a credit card by calling Joanie DiMartino at (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467. Kentucky Historical Society Attn: Joanie DiMartino 100 West Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601 (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467 <mailto:joanie.dimartino@ky.gov> joanie.dimartino@ky.gov. <http://history.ky.gov/> http://history.ky.gov <http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm> http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm

Barb, Just looked at the 1920 census. There was no Ross Smith there at that time. Are you certain of the years? I'll go through the 1930 and see if I can find him there. Bill

I am on my way to Johnson County this morning. I will see what I can find for you. Ann

Please refrain from posting "forwards" on the list. While some are interesting to read, they need to be shared by private e-mail. Thanks, Ann Applegate Listowner

I found this really informative. Thanks for this. -:) Jerry