Bud, I am glad you brought that up. Volunteering can take form in many ways. Donations for equipment, lunch, garbage bags,etc. are very useful and much needed in cemetery projects. If anyone would like to make a donation, please let me know. Ann

Amen to that. I couldn't have said it better.

"GET BACK TO GENEALOGY"????? Discussion of cemeteries IS very much genealogy. WHINING about the conditions of cemeteries while sitting around waiting for someone else to do something about it is not. I have been organizing cemetery cleanup projects for the past two years in Johnson County. Seems everyone is quick to point out which cemeteries are in need of some TLC but when asked to volunteer to help clean it, no one has the time or gumption. You do not have to be famous to make a difference and a letter to Loretta Lynn's manager is certainly not a solution to the problem. And just for the record, the cemetery should be an historical site due to the age of the cemetery, not because it bears the ancestors of Loretta and Crystal. If that be the case, then so should the cemetery where Richard Thomas' grandparents are laid to rest. One of the reasons there are so many deteriorating cemeteries is because everyone waits for someone else to come along and do something about it. The media is not the answer for an overgrown cemetery. Gardening tools, rakes, chainsaws, weedkiller and a few interested people is all it takes to beautify a forgotten cemetery. Trust me on this one folks, I have spent many hours laboring in overgrown cemeteries. My proposal to this list is this....all those interested in getting the Butcher-Webb cemetery back to its original state contact me by private e-mail and we will get a crew together. If not, then the debate stops here. Ann Lemaster-Applegate Johnson CO. List Owner

Just to let you all know that I have tried this site and it is very good. Has all types of info for all states. I an currently researching in KY the Welch, Collins, Litton lines. Have already seen many of our Johnson Co names, Ratliff, Spradlin, Stapleton,Crum etc in many of these files. It will be worth a look. They have census, birth, death etc and you can search by name, county or state. Happy Hunting Mary Researching Hajduk, Welch Szela, Collins, Litton, and related families Censuslinks search engine has been added to GeneaSearch.com. at http://www.geneasearch.com You can search for online census links by state and county.

Sounds like a great idea.The younger Webbs where my gg,greatgrandparents are buried Webb and Hammonds,are now taken care of every Memorial Day weekend,it's tradtion in our family.I'm so thankful the youngins are following in there ancesters footsteps. Kate Webb Mesner

PS was reading down a little further and found this note on the next column. The states largest archive is at 300 Coffee Tree Road. The Kentucky Dept for Libraries and Archives has state and local government records dating from 1780. Library M-F 10-4pm archives T-S 8am -4pm 502-564-8300 I don't know if the two are the same or different but you have the numbers. Good luck Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Ann Merritt <pharoh@eesc.com> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Frankfort, KY Archives?? In my Great Getaway Kentucky Guide book it says the following: Slated for opening in early 1999. The Kentucky History Center will offer 167,00 sq. ft of museum and research space. The center will include hands on activities, interactive displays, dynamic collections, as well as the foremost genealogical tracing facility in the state. For tours and hours please call toll-free 877-4HISTORY. I hope this helps. I was hoping to go when we came to KY in Sept but we ran out of time. :( Spent to much time having fun and doing some research in Paintsville. Maybe next year. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: p.a.h.b. <nuleef@foothills.net> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:23 AM Subject: Frankfort, KY Archives?? Good Morning! Does anyone on the list know where the archives is located in Frankfort, KY, < I'll be driving from Paintsville by way of the Mountain Parkway> what time and when the Archives is open?? And is there a room there where I can search the records of vital statistics for the early 1900's through present?? Are all the records in the same building? I'd like to go spend a couple of days doing research there, next week. Much appreciation, Patty B. ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

In my Great Getaway Kentucky Guide book it says the following: Slated for opening in early 1999. The Kentucky History Center will offer 167,00 sq. ft of museum and research space. The center will include hands on activities, interactive displays, dynamic collections, as well as the foremost genealogical tracing facility in the state. For tours and hours please call toll-free 877-4HISTORY. I hope this helps. I was hoping to go when we came to KY in Sept but we ran out of time. :( Spent to much time having fun and doing some research in Paintsville. Maybe next year. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: p.a.h.b. <nuleef@foothills.net> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:23 AM Subject: Frankfort, KY Archives?? Good Morning! Does anyone on the list know where the archives is located in Frankfort, KY, < I'll be driving from Paintsville by way of the Mountain Parkway> what time and when the Archives is open?? And is there a room there where I can search the records of vital statistics for the early 1900's through present?? Are all the records in the same building? I'd like to go spend a couple of days doing research there, next week. Much appreciation, Patty B. ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

Patty, I don't know much about the archives, since I haven't been there in about 12 years, but I talked to someone recently who had been there. I'm told that you can take nothing into the research room except your research notebook or a laptop. All other belongings must be put in a locker outside the research room. So it is very important to have a list of topics and dates that you want to research, unless , of course, you do have a laptop. Janice

Ann, Wishing I could be closer to my KY roots so I could volunteer to clean up those cemeteries that are needing some TLC. Where do I send my monetary donation to help? Deanna Levito Morgan CC

Good Morning! Does anyone on the list know where the archives is located in Frankfort, KY, < I'll be driving from Paintsville by way of the Mountain Parkway> what time and when the Archives is open?? And is there a room there where I can search the records of vital statistics for the early 1900's through present?? Are all the records in the same building? I'd like to go spend a couple of days doing research there, next week. Much appreciation, Patty B.

Great proposal, Ann, and if I were anywhere near Kentucky, I'd sign up right now. I hope a lot of people will be willing to help. Perhaps just takes some one to organize. Bud

Yeah me too.

OK, a little confused here about the "getting back to genealogy comment." Since when were cemeteries not considered genealogy based? Here I thought they had everything to do with genealogy. Dag, guess I could have saved myself a lot of time and effort, traipsing through all those cemeteries searching for my roots. Deanna Levito

I don't know how to tell you to get there but i was there last year. It is really nice. They have all kinds of thing to look at. I'm sure they have what you need. You can get a map printed out from the computer. I think it's on Yahoo.com

Dear Donna and Johnson Co. friends, Well said, I am leaving tomorrow morning for good old Kentucky; so I am going to unsubscribe for a few days. I am going to go ancestor hunting AGAIN and visit a few cemeteries along the way. My husband and I are taking the old weed eater, and garden tools and cutters along. If you see a slightly old (62 & 65) couple working away, give a yell. God Bless Sarah Ann

Excuse me, but my statements weren't meant to sound mean. I was just really surprised at the condition of the cemetery. And ,yes the cemetery should be an historical site . I was mainly talking about the bull dozing that is going on up there , and the mess of it all. I just thought that Loretta might have a lttle pull in getting it cleaned up. And famous or not , there is eoungh family members that it shouldn't be in that shape, I know because my uncle,Gene Butcher, and Loretta are first cousins. Myself , I visit three family cemeteries every other weekend to mow , rake leaves , remove broken limbs , or anything else that needs to be done. Now if people did something for this cemetery , just think of all the others who would want something done to another one. where will all the time and money come from ? Well I guess I have enough dirt on my hands now. These is my last opinion on ANYTHING. So back to geneaology. Donna

Time to get back to genealogy, dear friends. God Bless, Sarah Ann Amen to Sarah Ann LOUIE Marjorie & Louie Vaughan jfm@zoomnet.net

Dear Wendy, I am sorry if it sounded like I was "trashing" Loretta Lynn, believe me I didn't intend it that way. I admire both the of these ladies and the younger ones coming in to their own talents. I just feel that perhaps they have not gotten the information on the state of this cemetery. I do hope they do; but you pointed out important facts and I think your ideas are good in doing something possitive in taking care of these long forgotten cemeteries everywhere. Time to get back to genealogy, dear friends. God Bless, Sarah Ann ---------- > From: Wynkydynk@aol.com > To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Webb-Butcher Cemetery > Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 6:15 AM > > Dear People, > I have been reading all the condemning statements being made about > Loretta Lynn regarding this cemetery. > The cemetery should be a historical site of interest for many people, > including those people who live in Johnson County, those who travel to > Johnson County because they are fans of Loretta Lynn, and because the Webb > and Butcher families have been there so long and their histories and some of > the history of Johnson County will live on because of the book and the movie, > Coal Miner's Daughter. > Johnson County didn't make Loretta Lynn famous her talent made her famous. > On the other hand, Loretta Lynn has made Johnson County famous. > Maybe the people of Johnson County or the historical & genealogical > societies in Johnson County could pay homage to Loretta and her family by > setting up work weekends at the cemetery on a regular basis. > Someone already noted that the man who usually takes care of the > cemetery has too much work to do alone and is becoming an age where it is not > as easy as it might once have been. Where is Christian kindness in this > matter? How about offering to help the man clean up the cemetery? > > Nothing is accomplished when you sling dirt, except you are left with the > dirt you intended for others on your own hands. > > And the cemetery still sits there in an unkempt state. Very very sad. > > Sincerely, > Wendy > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

Hi my name is Barbara Justice. Do you have any dates on your Bayes

Amen, Wendy!