This list isn't country Vs. city. HBO aired documentaries on Eastern Ky that apparently made all of us Kentuckians look like we are too ignorant to work, live in shacks and survive on welfare and foodstamps. The "city suits" I referred to are the executives and directors that dream up these crazy documentaries in order to boost their ratings and make a buck or two at the expense of we Kentuckians. Please do not twist my words to make it appear I said something that I did not. If you have a reply to this, do so by private e-mail Ann Lemaster-Applegate annapplegate@maysvilleky.net

I have an ancestor, Edea Elizabeth Music(k). She was born on 11 Sept. 1860 in Johnson County KY. She married Washington PORTERin Litchfield, Meeker, MN. Does this name appear in any of your information? Hazel Harley hharley@bigsky.net -----Original Message----- From: RLHALLESQ@aol.com <RLHALLESQ@aol.com> To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 6:55 PM Subject: Re: HALL FAMILY >Thanks Donna, anything you can give me on David Hall or Betty Music and if >they had more children than John M. would be greatly appreciated...Ron > > >==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== >Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate >annapplegate@maysvilleky.net >Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html >

Thanks Hazel, but my Betty or Elizabeth Music had my gggrandfather in 1822 and yours wasn't born until 1860. I will keep her listed just in case mine go in that direction. Once again thanks..Ron

Sorry everyone but I just had to put in my 2 cents. My Mom was born in those hills and what she became instilled in us was it is not what you have but how you use it. Mom quite school in the sixth grade. Education was not really deemed necessary in some places. Mom was very articulate. She met and married my Dad, (a northern Mi. potato farmer) Dad started a construction business and Mom took care of all the paperwork and payroll. It should be noted that the IRS did come to the house to do an audit and after going back into 4 years of records they found one error of 7 cents, in their favor I might add. Just from the learning of a country girl. I think I should also point out that Mom took great pride in the fact that whenever someone had the nerve to call her a hillbilly, she pointed to the dictionary and directed them to look up the word. It seems Dad was the hillbilly as it shows a hillbilly to be " a northern Michigander" Since I am from lower Mich that must make me only half hillbilly. Poorness knows no boundaries. Semper Fi. Mary in Mich Researching surnames: Hajduk, Welch, Litton, Collins, Merritts, Meier, Staples and Szela Proud member of the WOMEN MARINES ASSOCIATION, MOTOR CITY CHAPTER

I have seen so many questions regarding coalmines and miners that I thought I would pass this info on. Happy Hunting Semper Fi. Mary in Mich Researching surnames: Hajduk, Welch, Litton, Collins, Merritts, Meier, Staples and Szela Proud member of the WOMEN MARINES ASSOCIATION, MOTOR CITY CHAPTER ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Nisbet <kiwikin@ihug.co.nz> To: <COALMINERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 1:37 AM Subject: Links to Coal Mining websites Hello from New Zealand The website listed below contains links to websites all over the world that deal with Coal Mining and related topics. There are 26 websites for Pennsylvania alone! http://www.coolguitars.com/coalinks.html Let me know what you think about it. Thanks to you all for sharing your memories. Linda ==== COALMINERS Mailing List ==== >>>>COALMINERS mailing list<<<< This list is made possible by Rootsweb members and subscribers. Please visit their web page at http://www.rootsweb.com

Very well said, Ron! We are on the brunt end of jokes, and basically are viewed as ignorant hill people. The media makes us look like uneducated, lazy slobs. I resent that to the very core of my being. They do not show the beauty of our state, nor do they recognize the fine colleges and vocational schools we have. They comb the area looking for the worst possible scenario and play that off as a representation of the entire Eastern section of Kentucky. We know alot more than the big city suits. We know the value of family and tradition verses the high paced conglomerate world where no one trusts anyone nor has time for family and friends. I, for one, am danged proud to be Kentucky born and raised!! Ann Lemaster-Applegate

I'm looking for information on Hiram Butcher who married to June Kistner (her name is seen as Juney his name is seen as Harum in the Bible record). The only record I have of them was given to me verbally by a lady who owned a Kistner family Bible which she has since given away. June would have been born anytime after the 1880 Johnson Co., KY federal Census was taken. Her father died in 1910 so she wouldn't have been born after 1911. Haven't seen the 1900 Federal Census to know if she was still a minor then and living with her parents. Thank you for looking this over and for any help that you can give. Wendy

Thanks Donna that does help. And thank you list for all your help. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Hall <DonnaHallH@webtv.net> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Oscar FRANCISCO-1835 > I have one date. I hope it helps...... > John Webb m. Phebee Butcher 1-21-1846 > > Donna > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

I'm not Kentucky born and raised. I'm another "downtrodden" Okie. But I have become Kentucky "oriented" during the past 15 years of visiting, studying, and getting acquainted with so many relatives in Kentucky. You shou ld be proud. Bud Caudle

I have one date. I hope it helps...... John Webb m. Phebee Butcher 1-21-1846 Donna

Does anyone have an address for a web site for Magoffin Co (geneology)?????

Why did this list become about city folks versus country folks?

Yes that would help. I have 15 of their children listed and not much after that. I have Simon Dotson and Phoebe Hollingsworth as Artie's parents but no dates for any of them. Thanks. Donna Sisco ----- Original Message ----- From: <MouseMoran@aol.com> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 7:14 PM Subject: Re: Oscar FRANCISCO-1835 > The parents, according to info I have, of Phoebe Butcher were Jacob Butcher > and Artie Dotson. They are my Great,great,great,great,great grandparents on > my mother's side. Do you need to know about descendents of Phoebe. If so > write me. > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

Ron, I have a few dates. I hope these help......... David Hall died abt.1822-23 in Rowan Co. NC m.Betty Music Son: John M Hall b.1822 Rowan Co NC d.11-25-1913 Meally,Ky (Johnson Co) I will send more when I find it .ok. Donna

Hello, I married into a family that are descendants of the Hamilton and Henson families. I cannot seem to find much information on the William Henson (Hanson) (b. Abt 1836 and m. Dorcas Bentley) that was the father of Joseph Henson (m. Nancy Osborne). Does anyone have information on these families? Thank you in advance. Marylou Hill queenbasket@aol.com

Comments on us Eastern Kentuckians are nothing new, as we all know. I know we have problems, but the media never mentions the abundant jobs in the north that are filled by men and women from the tri-state area simply because they know they are honest and hard working. I worked 15yrs in Washington, D.C. and if anyone wants to subject themselves to crime, drugs, prostitution or anything of that nature I would be happy to give them streets or areas in D.C., Baltimore, NYC, Boston just a few cities I worked in, and I was on the streets at all hours. Be proud. We know what we are, and please don't lure these "people" to our hills. That's my two cents worth also...Ron Hall

Donna, try http://genweb.net/~magoffin/ it works for me...Ron

Thanks Donna, anything you can give me on David Hall or Betty Music and if they had more children than John M. would be greatly appreciated...Ron

Hello back cousin, This is the first time I've found anyone looking for the same Boyd line. I didn't know Sarah's last name was Pack. I have the same census records showing what you have. And I came to the same conclusion you did, that they are from a previous marriage. But last year I was searching older censuses and found Boyd and Calloway in the same household again. Unfortunately I didn't copy it because at the time I didn't realize the connection. I dropped my research for them after that, so I will have to dig out all the files again. So far, I have the 1850, 1870, 1880, and 1900 census of Lawrence Co.; and 1910 census of Martin Co. Anderson (Ancil) Boyd's daughter Gracie (Bowling) is my husbands grandmother. May I ask how you are related? It's always good to find someone else searching the same family. I hope we can share info. Thanks again. Donna Sisco > Hello Cousin: > > Your Ancil parents were James Boyd and Martha, and his parents were James > Boyd and Sarah Pack. James Had a brother named Anderson and he had a son Leo. > This is indeed the family that I am working with. Trying to find out where > James came from. Calloways are listed with James Boyd and other family > members. I think that perhaps Sarah could have been married to a Calloway > prior to James? The reason is that Cornealis is listed in a census with Lewis > and is listed as a brother. > > Write back soon. > > Laurie > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

----- Original Message ----- From: <LOCOLAURIE@aol.com> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Re: BOYD > In a message dated 12/02/1999 12:43:33 PM Central Standard Time, > jeni2000@comteck.com writes: > > << Anderson (Ancil) Boyd b Jan 1 1873>Ulysses,Ky and > Catherine Beasley. Ancil's parents were James Boyd b Feb 1845 and Martha > Walker b Jan 1850. Anderson died in Johnson County Jan 2, 1951. I've not > done as much research on the Webb line yet, so there may be a connection > there later on. Do you have a Boyd > Calloway connection? >> > > Hello Cousin: > > Your Ancil parents were James Boyd and Martha, and his parents were James > Boyd and Sarah Pack. James Had a brother named Anderson and he had a son Leo. > This is indeed the family that I am working with. Trying to find out where > James came from. Calloways are listed with James Boyd and other family > members. I think that perhaps Sarah could have been married to a Calloway > prior to James? The reason is that Cornealis is listed in a census with Lewis > and is listed as a brother. > > Write back soon. > > Laurie > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html