--WebTV-Mail-3489-1160 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit HI CHARLENE!! I checked some of my records and did not find a single name you mentioned. I have NOT researched my BORDER or SELLARD heritage thats probably why. I plan on mastering my DANIELS line before I move on to the Maiden names of my family. Shannon --WebTV-Mail-3489-1160 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.97) by storefull-258.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:53:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <KYJOHNSO-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id KAA10581; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13733; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:52:34 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:52:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <38529EC4.3CDBA3CE@localaccess.com> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:58:12 -0800 From: cwoodring <cwoodring@localaccess.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Borders and Sellards References: <8462-3851A7BD-9771@storefull-255.iap.bryant.webtv.net> <3851F77D.34D0@dickson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8PkUxD.A.SWD.y1pU4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1702 X-Loop: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: KYJOHNSO-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi Shannon, I descend from "Old John" (as I've come to call him!) and Catherine through their son, Hezekiah Borders, his son Joseph Borders, his youngest daughter Julia Ella Borders. Do you have any Prestons, Rices, Browns, Davis', Hannahs in your lines? Charlene specialteach@dickson.net wrote: > Shannon....Hi cousin!.....what is your line back to John and Catherine? > > Nancy > > shannon daniels wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I am the gr gr gr(ect...) granddaughter of John Borders B.1756 and > > Catherine Elizabeth Sellards. She is the daughter of Hezekiah Sellards > > B.1734. > > > > Shannon Daniels > > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: > > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html --WebTV-Mail-3489-1160--

Kim: And Happy Holidays to you, too. And good luck on the time capsule. Bud

Looking for information for Isaac HOLLAND, who apparently changed his name to HOLLINGSWOWRTH or HOLLINGSWORTH. Born June 1, 1871, in Johnson County, KY. Was married to Mary SMALLWOOD and died October 13, 1946. Any information would be greatly appreciated. TIA kycherokee@aol.com

I am a social worker who deals with older people. One of my clients shared how they are passing on their family heritage to their children. This couple writes a chapter of their lives, complete with pictures, documents etc. for each of their 10 children. They give one chapter each Christmas. By concentrating on just one period of their lives, and spending a year on it, the resulting chapter is quite impressive. They are very much interested in genealogy (DAR member) so are very thorough in their information and documentation. By the time they finish, the family will have a wonderful book of their family heritage. I thought this was such a wonderful idea that I wanted to share it with all of you. Charlene Woodring Kim Hall wrote: > Bud & Candy, > Thanks for the Ideas, especially how to store the items placed in a time capsule to preserve them.. I didn't know that the pictures of today aren't as well made as they were years ago... I do plan on adding letters and stories............and documents. What great ideas you have added!!! Thanks, I knew I could count on this list to help!!!!! Happy Holidays!!!! Kim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BnLFAMILY@aol.com > To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:20 PM > Subject: Re: The future > > Kim: > One of the nicest things I've seen to be left for generations to come was > handed out by the celebrating couple at a 50th wedding anniversary. It was > an album type thing or book if you will, just a Xerox copy, but very nice. > It was put together by the couple themselves, no publisher or anything like > that. > It had several generations of pictures, all identified. It had a very nice > genealogy in it. And it had (best of all) family stories handed down from > several generations and up to the present generation. These stories, the > real history of the family, are what I think made it so special. There were > copies of birth, marriage, and death records where appropriate, and even some > land records. A person could include whatever they would like to include, > but should always include stories whether today's person thinks it is > interesting or not. A few generations from now that story probably will be > interesting. > I found an old newspaper article one time about someone selling eggs - a lot > of them. I sent the article to a descendant who had no idea the family had > ever even had a chicken except to eat. > Just some ideas. Good luck. > Bud Caudle > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

Bud, That was wonderful. Thank you for sharing. Charlene Woodring (Sellards, Borders, Brown, Preston, Hannah, Rice, Davis, Vaughan) BnLFAMILY@aol.com wrote: > I received this on the Pittsylvania County, Virginia List. Since it is > completely about genealogy, I thought I'd pass it on. I love it. > Bud Caudle > > Twas The Day Before Yesterday > > TWAS the day before yesterday and all through the branches, > NOT a name to be found, none of my ancestors. > > THE Journals and Bibles were dusty and worn, > WHY should we care, these kinfolk are gone. > > THE pictures of children and family, long ago dead, > ARE scattered, crinkled, and crammed under beds. > > DAD in his chair, and I with a book, > HAD just settled back to give the TV a look. > > WHEN out on the street there arose such a clatter, > I sprang to my feet to see what was the matter. > > ON the way to the window I tripped with a crash, > I tore open the curtains and looked through the glass. > > THE sun in the sky was nowhere in sight, > THE clouds were so gray, it could have been night. > > WHEN what to my wondering eyes should appear, > THE Mailman with packages, letters and cards of good cheer. > > THE driver was grumbling while sorting his letters, > I knew in a moment, things had to get better. > > THE size of one letter stood out from them all, > A distant cousin was asking about family, one and all. > > THE names of Grandpa and Grandma, Great Grandparents all, > NEXT came my Father, my Brother, and Uncle Paul. > > FROM cousins and uncles to aunts and nephews, > NIECES and in-laws, just to name a few. > > SO through the many journals and photos, and stuff I possessed, > MY search for my ancestors slowly progressed. > > WHILE up the family tree I gradually climbed, > MY ancestors names, I was seeking to find. > > UPON that tree I have carved many a name, > THE branches of which, will never be the same. > > THE tree is now filled with many I've found, > BUT in the search for others, now I am bound. > > THE ancestors whose names, I have written with love, > THE Lord has gathered to take to His Father above. > > WITH so many names yet to be carved on that tree, > I have little time to waste on games and TV. > > GATHERING names, photos, histories and places, > REQUIRES a lot of love, patience, and God's good graces. > > SOME were Farmers, Soldiers and such, Mothers and Fathers > who struggled much. > SOME were Settlers, who traveled far, some Adventures, > who followed the stars. > > SOME were rich but most were poor, they came by ship, > seeking more. > SOME died young, others old, many their stories yet untold. > > I cried when I thought of those brothers and sisters, > FOR I am who I am, thanks to my ancestors. > > MY family is but one branch on the Tree of Life, > A tree that grew strong through toil and strife. > > ALONE, I'm just a bare twig or a stub, > TOGETHER we build a Family Tree of Love > > (Written by > Linnie Vanderford Poyneer > one night after a long day of research) > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

Bud & Candy, Thanks for the Ideas, especially how to store the items placed in a time capsule to preserve them.. I didn't know that the pictures of today aren't as well made as they were years ago... I do plan on adding letters and stories............and documents. What great ideas you have added!!! Thanks, I knew I could count on this list to help!!!!! Happy Holidays!!!! Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: BnLFAMILY@aol.com To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 7:20 PM Subject: Re: The future Kim: One of the nicest things I've seen to be left for generations to come was handed out by the celebrating couple at a 50th wedding anniversary. It was an album type thing or book if you will, just a Xerox copy, but very nice. It was put together by the couple themselves, no publisher or anything like that. It had several generations of pictures, all identified. It had a very nice genealogy in it. And it had (best of all) family stories handed down from several generations and up to the present generation. These stories, the real history of the family, are what I think made it so special. There were copies of birth, marriage, and death records where appropriate, and even some land records. A person could include whatever they would like to include, but should always include stories whether today's person thinks it is interesting or not. A few generations from now that story probably will be interesting. I found an old newspaper article one time about someone selling eggs - a lot of them. I sent the article to a descendant who had no idea the family had ever even had a chicken except to eat. Just some ideas. Good luck. Bud Caudle ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

Here is a poem that I just couldn't resist sending. It fits right in with genealogy and history. Ann In Spite Of All Her Faults I hail from Old Kentucky, The State of Bluegrass fame, I love her rolling meadows, Her quaint, historic name. Along her winding byways, No hostile steps resound; Our fathers made it sacred, This dark and bloody ground. I hail it as a treasure, The State that gave me birth; It is beyond all measure, The fairest spot on earth. And when my weary spirit If wafted home to God; I ask but that my body Rest 'neath its Bluegrass sod. Then give me Old Kentucky, The State that I love best, Yes, give me Old Kentucky, The world may have the rest. Author unknown

List, there was a lot of time, energy and frustration in regard to this Carrie person and I can't help wonder if you are aware that some people will do what we just observed and see what they can stir up on a newsgroup or message board. I wouldn't surmise whether she was as she presented herself or not but on other newsgroups I see this happen and it's best to not respond (though I had taken her at face value at her first posting). I certainly don't mean to condescend that you're unaware of "Trolls", but maybe some of the list is new or haven't realized they exist and are active. Thanks for letting me get off focus but maybe if we don't respond we'll keep trolls off the list. "I was going to buy a copy of The Power of Positive Thinking, and then I thought: What the hell good would that do?" ...Ronnie Shakes

Jim, Trust me, the "unidentified subject" of last night was not worth reading anyway. Ann

Hello Folks! Whew! What a night, huh? I think someone got really bored and decided to cause trouble. Whatever the case may be, I have blocked her from the list. There is no place here for that type rudeness! Now, with that behind us, let's have a great day of research! Ann

Ronnie, much my own thoughts. Carrie could be anyone. Did you know there are these people who like to stir things up, maybe even in a group to which they belong or for which they have ownership. A person who does this kind of thing can be anyone. The absolute best thing is to ignore them. This Carrie person did not seem real to me, no one with any kind of "fetching up" would say the things she did, even posing as another person. I can't help but think there is some underlying reason why this went down like it did..... >From: markyivan@webtv.net >Reply-To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com >To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Hesitant to, but about Trolls >Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 12:43:44 -0500 (EST) > >List, there was a lot of time, energy and >frustration in regard to this Carrie person and >I can't help wonder if you are aware that >some people will do what we just observed >and see what they can stir up on a newsgroup >or message board. I wouldn't surmise >whether she was as she presented herself >or not but on other newsgroups I see this >happen and it's best to not respond (though >I had taken her at face value at her first >posting). I certainly don't mean to condescend >that you're unaware of "Trolls", but maybe >some of the list is new or haven't realized >they exist and are active. Thanks for >letting me get off focus but maybe if we >don't respond we'll keep trolls off the list. > >"I was going to buy a copy of The Power of >Positive Thinking, and then I thought: What >the hell good would that do?" > ...Ronnie Shakes > > > > >==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== >Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: >annapplegate@maysvilleky.net >Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Carrie: Family history is a personal project where other researchers share information on common lines. It is not the purpose of any list that I have ever seen just to "tell you about your family". Go to the various research libraries in your area and do your own research. Very few things are given to us on silver platters and to the best of my knowledge your family research nor mine are listed on a menu where you can go order. I know I may sound harsh but stop and think. Those of us who actual do the research and documentation have spent not only the time but the money to gather the information -- and it appears to me that you are demanding we share. Choosing your words more carefully and certainly not referring to people as "stupid" would more than likely get you more information. It was your reference to the list members be stupid that set me off. The list members for the most part are related to me in one way or another and I didn't appreciate your name calling of members of my family. Herma McAllister

Ann, I realized this after I sent it so I tried to send it to her personally and my mail was rejected so I guess she wasn't that interested in finding out about her BLANTON family. Thanks Ann, Sherri

Hi You Guys/Gals! I have been away too long!!!! Well, I knew you all were responsive! Ol' Carrie got plenty of responses.... way to go! My mailbox is full of this stuff and I'm having a good ol' time but I am so glad that Ann got rid of our "VIRUS"!!!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU!!! Sherri Hale

Hi, I'm researching WHEELER and CHANDLER. These two surnames tie in to my tree with HALE. The area is Johnson County also. I don't have much info but will send what I have. Sherri

Faith, Thanks for sharing the meanings of certain symbols. I actually never thought much about it but I'm glad to know what they mean. Thank you very much, Sherri Hale

In a message dated 12/12/99 2:21:37 AM Central Standard Time, pharoh@eesc.com writes: << From: Carrie Mains <cmains64@go.com> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 11:16 PM Subject: Unidentified subject! To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:16:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Stupid people Is everyone on these lists stupid ? What does it take to get an answer? I have been on five lists in the past week and no one will ever answer my nots. >> Carrie, This list is one of the best list that I know of. I know it can be frustrating digging around searching for answers and this list is very supportive and responsive and I am PROUD to be a part of this list! I believe I responded to your posting just a few minutes ago before I read this one. In the future, please try to practice patience because it is one of the main ingredients you must have in order to do your genealogy. Take Care, Sherri

Hi Everybody! Been out of the state for awhile but I'm back and you know what I'm doing... GENEALOGY! I have BLANTON, McCARTY, WEBB, and HALE that tie in together and was wondering if there is anyone who may have a connection with me. I am researching the following family(ies): I have my McCARTY's back to THOMAS McCARTY and MARGARET Peggy SALYER. The following I'm not sure about so I will list the names that I have so far: George BLANTON, Mary SALYER, Polly DAVIS: I have a James BLANTON and Polly DAVIS....they had a son, Bud BLANTON, who married Minerva (McCARTY?, d/o John McCARTY and Patsy UNKNOWN) John McCARTY/Patsy UNKNOWN FAMILY: Listed in 1850 Census---place unknown---info was given to me but has not been verified: John McCARTY age ? Patsy age ? Rebecca age 8 Nelson age 9 (his mother was a Johnson) David age 6 Minerva age 4 ------>>>>Nelson (above) married Louisa BLANTON ---->>> John McCARTY is the grandfather of Mary Etta McCARTY. John was born 1824 in Russell County, Va. Died 11-30-1861 in Johnson County, KY. He married Patsy UNKNOWN. ---->>>>John's McCARTY's father was Thomas McCARTY. Thomas McCARTY born: 1797 d. 1850 in Johnson County, KY. Mary Etta McCARTY is the daughter of Nelson McCARTY and Louisa BLANTON. ---->>>>Mary Etta McCARTY married William WEBB on 11-18-1880. William WEBB was 25 yrs of age and Mary Etta McCARTY was 16 yrs of age. The following is where I have hit a brick wall. William WEBB and Mary Etta McCARTY WEBB had a daughter, Addie WEBB who married John BLANTON, son of UNKNOWN. They were married in GREENUP COUNTY, KY on 10-19-1916. Addie WEBB has been married to a MEADE, VALENTINE, JUSTICE (dates and places unknown) The family of John BLANTON and Addie WEBB are: (note: not all the children are the children of John): 1) Lovesta BLANTON b. 10-18-1910 d. 6-4-1946 (buried in Dixon Cemetary--Ashland, KY); m. John HALE (these are my grandparents) I wonder why Lovesta's name is BLANTON when she was born BEFORE the marriage of John and Addie. Anyone got any ideas out there????? 2) Leona BLANTON b.? still living.... she married a STURGILL 3) Ray JUSTICE b. 4-4-1930 (according to obit his father's last name was VALENTINE) d. 1-27-1999 in Ashland, Boyd County, KY and is buried in the Dixon Cemetary. I traveled to Ky this past July and was supposed to meet Ray. Unfortunately, he died before I got that chance. 4) John Jay BLANTON b. (don't have the date with me) d. 11-11-1986. He was married to a JUSTICE. He is also buried in the Dixon Cemetary near his mother Addie and grandmother Mary Etta. I noticed another headstone with the name GARFIELD McCARTY who is supposed to be a brother or Uncle to Mary Etta McCARTY WEBB. Anyone with any information please contact me. I do run a website with most of the research that I am doing. Please visit my site and send any comments you may have. For those who haven't received a response from me, I apologize. I have been out of town and recently returned and will get back with you as soon as possible. Here is my url address: >>>http://members.aol.com/aslaton300/index.htm<<<< Remember.....SILENCE DIVIDES US!!!! Sherri Hale

Hi List! I am a little behind in my email. I am researching: Burchett, Cantrell, Curtis, Fyffe, Hamilton, Keeton, Lemaster, and Pennington. If you are researching any of these lines also, please contact me. Deanna Levito

Carrie, Aka as cmains64@go.com I myself have answered you several times. Perhaps you are not old enough to be on a group and perhaps you need to learn to put your subject in the subject line. The people on these lists are kind and caring and try to help. You are rude and need to learn to get along. Look under the Blanton listing for the info you seek. It has been posted several times for you. Semper Fi. Mary in Mich Researching surnames: Hajduk, Welch, Litton, Collins, Merritts, Meier, Staples and Szela Proud member of the WOMEN MARINES ASSOCIATION, MOTOR CITY CHAPTER ----- Original Message ----- From: Carrie Mains <cmains64@go.com> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 11:16 PM Subject: Unidentified subject! To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:16:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Stupid people Is everyone on these lists stupid ? What does it take to get an answer? I have been on five lists in the past week and no one will ever answer my nots. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html