I would be interested in knowing your Hackworth line. My Aunt was Ival Hackworth. She married David Beecher Ealey. Email me privately at SassMan46@AOL.com Bill

In 1956, my dad brought us to Johnson County to visit his brother James Arthur Ealey at Flat Gap. I was about 12 at the time, and I remember seeing a one room schoolhouse in Paintsville. If my memory serves me correctly it was somewhere near to where the Johnson County High is now. Can someone tell me if I'm right or not? My dad said he attended that one room schoolhouse in the 1920's. As did his brothers James and David Ealey and his cousin Dixie Bayes. Bill Reed

good sermon Bill and let everyone listen to what you say. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mattheis, William G <Mattheis.Bill@HQ.NAVY.MIL> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Let there be Peace > To All: > > As a preface to this topic, I want to say that I try to be more of a > listener that a "talker", or to at least make my comments as short as > possible. Now, I'm not as good of a manager of the subject line as I should > be, and I probably don't manage other aspects of the use of this "list" as > well as I should - - in response to the comments today, I promise to be less > lazy and manager better. > > However, I, for one, find the "banter" to be (1) charming, (2) an > illuminating insight into folks that I feel (or in fact enjoy) a kinship > with, and (3) Educational. I, personally, have learned/gleaned many > precious facts and insight into my genealogy from the info posted to this > site for all to read. At the same time I understand that many folks are > "space limited", and find the things I enjoy to be a liability. Perhaps the > correct solution is a chat room. I don't know, because I have never chatted > on line, and know little about doing so. I am willing to learn, however, > and to find ways to address the needs of all. > > I, for one, however, do not respond well to being "chastised." One of the > most enjoyable aspects of this list for me is the mutual respect and > admiration that the vast majority of list users demonstrate to each other, > and their obvious joy at the interaction and learning afforded to all of us. > The least enjoyable thing I encounter, is the "whining" of those customers > who are "disatisfied.", especially when that whining is critical of others. > This is a voluntary event as far as I can tell. Frankly, if I didn't like > the way the list was run, or the actions of the folks who use it, I's start > my own list, run it my own way, and have discourse limited to just those who > think, act and fell just like me. But, of course, that would take > initiative, work and a level of risk that most "complainers" aren't ever > willing to take on - - now that is something I just can't respect. > > Well, having vented here, I sit, paused over the send key. Should I, or > shouldn't I send. Hmmm! Having spent the energy to write this, should I > send it and take the risk of offending others, or, even worse, opening > myself up to criticism. Will my intended audience even HEAR me. Based on > my experience in dealing with children (both young and adult children), I > suppose they wont Should I send? Oh, heck yes. Let's all be adults, work > together, and I'm sure that we can have what we want and/or need without any > further character assassination. > > My sermon for the week. I will send. > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ann Lemaster- Applegate [mailto:annapplegate@maysvilleky.net] > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 1:35 AM > To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Let there be Peace > > > Come on, gang! > > There is no need to be criticizing one another. If there is a problem, > bring it to my attention by means of private e-mail. > > This list is not limited to just names & dates. It is also for learning > more about the history and landmarks of Johnson County. It is for sharing > stories about our Johnson County ancestors. Through these we can better > understand how our ancestors lived, the struggles they faced, the challenges > they met on a day to day basis. And along that road, we are getting to know > each other better. What traits of our ancestors have we inherited? What > likeness to them do we share? We learn these important and interesting > tidbits through our bantering, i.e., height seems to run in the Lemaster > bloodline. It also lets those that are not familiar with Johnson County > learn more about the traditions, foods, superstitions, etc. that may not > be common in their area. > > > Nonproductive? I believe I have seen quite a bit of info swapping lately on > the list. I have seen list members reaching out to help each other in their > quest. > > I do agree that we could all try a little harder on keeping the subject line > appropriate to the body of the message. But as I have said before, if you > read something you do not like, or feel the topic of conversation has gone > astray from Johnson County, either bring your complaint/concern to me, or > delete it, dont debate it. > > And, for those interested, I am checking into chat forums. As soon as I > find one that suits our needs, I will post details. In the meantime, if any > of you know of a good chat forum that is user friendly and easy to set up, > please let me know. > > Ann Lemaster-Applegate > your Johnson County Listowner > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html >

Bill, I agree. ....Marilyn Daniel Chesney > >==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== >Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: >annapplegate@maysvilleky.net >Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html >

Depends on when???

Would anyone happen to have a list of the children that attended this school? I am sure there is one somewhere its just a matter of where to look or who to contact. Mary in Ohio

More information provided by the Mountain HomePlace near Paintsville. It is my belief that the O.B McKenzie referred to in this article was Oliver B. McKenzie b. March 17, 1813 in Scott Co., Virginia; d. June 05, 1878 in Johnson County, Kentucky. However, my records show that he settled at Laurel Creek. Is there someone out there on our list who can comment about this? Thanks, Sharon in Pleasant Hill, CA The McKenzie School Few institutions have been held in such fond regard and recalled in such nostalgic terms as the little red schoolhouse. It ranks with the old oaken bucket, the little brown church in the vale, and pictures of the old home place that are remembered by millions as they recall that long ago way of life. But the Johnson County schoolhouses were not painted red; they were mostly white, if not of unpainted log construction. The rude log schools with their puncheon floors, were around for nearly a century and provided the typical school experience for the great majority of Kentuckians. The cracks between the logs were filled with mud to keep out the wind on a cold winter day. Much of the furniture was hewn from logs. Students in these early schools used goose quill pens and ink made from polk or elderberry juice. Equipment was limited and it was left to the inventiveness of the teachers, community leaders and older pupils to come up with the homemade learning tools of that time. Built in the late nineteenth century, this is one of Johnson County's common schools. The original site of the building was a tract of the O.B. McKenzie property located on McKenzie Branch. The Johnson County School Board received title to the half acre plot on which it stood in 1898. The site also contained a well for the school's use. The McKenzie Branch School is a rectangular log building one and one-half stories in height and containing a single classroom. The only entrance to the school is in the gable end facing the road. Each family whose children attended the school contributed four logs to the structure. Thus, the preparation of the logs is varied but half dovetailed notching is used to join the logs. You will note that the sources of light were the four windows, the oil lamps that sat of their high brackets attached to the walls, and the front door when the weather permitted it to remain open. You will also note that the benches were handmade and did not take into consideration the comfort of the occupants. The school year began after blackberry picking time in July and lasted for six months. The class could range in size from thirty to sixty pupils and in age from six to twenty. The teacher and the classroom supplies were provided by the county. It was the teacher who was the key to the success of the district schools. The county school commissioners and the district trustees were responsible for examining and certifying teachers. Teacher salaries were always low and the differences in salary among counties and districts were extreme. In many neighborhoods teachers had no choice but to board in homes where board was cheap - typically $1.50 - $2.00 per week, with the option of staying over for the weekend at no extra charge. Because of their knowledge and authority, the teacher stood tall in the eyes of the community and the students. Teachers were expected to be models of behavior and scholarship, get the needed education, dress well, and live on wages that were not always paid on time. Educational aids included one box of chalk, erasers, a pressed poplar blackboard covered with slate impregnated paint, a coal bucket to fire the Burnside No. 1, and a 10 gallon water bucket with two cups that set on a small table or shelf behind the front door. The parents and teacher contributed books to the school's permanent collection. Since the building was seldom locked, it also served the function of a public library.

Bill, Couldn't have said it better myself!!! Julie

To All: As a preface to this topic, I want to say that I try to be more of a listener that a "talker", or to at least make my comments as short as possible. Now, I'm not as good of a manager of the subject line as I should be, and I probably don't manage other aspects of the use of this "list" as well as I should - - in response to the comments today, I promise to be less lazy and manager better. However, I, for one, find the "banter" to be (1) charming, (2) an illuminating insight into folks that I feel (or in fact enjoy) a kinship with, and (3) Educational. I, personally, have learned/gleaned many precious facts and insight into my genealogy from the info posted to this site for all to read. At the same time I understand that many folks are "space limited", and find the things I enjoy to be a liability. Perhaps the correct solution is a chat room. I don't know, because I have never chatted on line, and know little about doing so. I am willing to learn, however, and to find ways to address the needs of all. I, for one, however, do not respond well to being "chastised." One of the most enjoyable aspects of this list for me is the mutual respect and admiration that the vast majority of list users demonstrate to each other, and their obvious joy at the interaction and learning afforded to all of us. The least enjoyable thing I encounter, is the "whining" of those customers who are "disatisfied.", especially when that whining is critical of others. This is a voluntary event as far as I can tell. Frankly, if I didn't like the way the list was run, or the actions of the folks who use it, I's start my own list, run it my own way, and have discourse limited to just those who think, act and fell just like me. But, of course, that would take initiative, work and a level of risk that most "complainers" aren't ever willing to take on - - now that is something I just can't respect. Well, having vented here, I sit, paused over the send key. Should I, or shouldn't I send. Hmmm! Having spent the energy to write this, should I send it and take the risk of offending others, or, even worse, opening myself up to criticism. Will my intended audience even HEAR me. Based on my experience in dealing with children (both young and adult children), I suppose they wont Should I send? Oh, heck yes. Let's all be adults, work together, and I'm sure that we can have what we want and/or need without any further character assassination. My sermon for the week. I will send. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Ann Lemaster- Applegate [mailto:annapplegate@maysvilleky.net] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 1:35 AM To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Let there be Peace Come on, gang! There is no need to be criticizing one another. If there is a problem, bring it to my attention by means of private e-mail. This list is not limited to just names & dates. It is also for learning more about the history and landmarks of Johnson County. It is for sharing stories about our Johnson County ancestors. Through these we can better understand how our ancestors lived, the struggles they faced, the challenges they met on a day to day basis. And along that road, we are getting to know each other better. What traits of our ancestors have we inherited? What likeness to them do we share? We learn these important and interesting tidbits through our bantering, i.e., height seems to run in the Lemaster bloodline. It also lets those that are not familiar with Johnson County learn more about the traditions, foods, superstitions, etc. that may not be common in their area. Nonproductive? I believe I have seen quite a bit of info swapping lately on the list. I have seen list members reaching out to help each other in their quest. I do agree that we could all try a little harder on keeping the subject line appropriate to the body of the message. But as I have said before, if you read something you do not like, or feel the topic of conversation has gone astray from Johnson County, either bring your complaint/concern to me, or delete it, dont debate it. And, for those interested, I am checking into chat forums. As soon as I find one that suits our needs, I will post details. In the meantime, if any of you know of a good chat forum that is user friendly and easy to set up, please let me know. Ann Lemaster-Applegate your Johnson County Listowner ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

Hi Ann, I would be interested in meeting people on the list. Rose M Smith rmsmith@bright.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Lemaster- Applegate <annapplegate@maysvilleky.net> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 5:00 PM Subject: Johnson County Gang > Would anyone be interested in a gathering for members on this list? (To be > held in Johnson County, of course..LOL) > > Ann > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html >

Hi, Does anyone know if there are any Jackson Cemeteries in Johnson Co. Not sure where the location would be. I believe I may have family in them. My lines are Jackson, Conley, Salyer, Hackworth, Stanley-that I am mainly working on. I am knew to this list, so if I should make a mistake please inform me. Not real sure how these list work. The Jackson family I am working on is the John W. Jackson line. I descend through Elisha Jackson, Mason Jackson and my granddad John F. Jackson. Thankyou

I found that to be very interesting. Thankyou.

HMM! OK, I will send direct to you, and offer to anyone else who is interested. Thanks, Bill -----Original Message----- From: BnLFAMILY@aol.com [mailto:BnLFAMILY@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 6:24 PM To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Mankins info for Bud C. and others Bill: Not sure if rootsweb will allow attachments. Bud ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

I, too, love to hear stories about our ancestors and like to include in my family file anything I can find regarding how they lived on a day-to-day basis. The following is excerpted from a handout we acquired at the Mountain HomePlace near Paintsville. This is only part of the information. I will post what it has to say about the one-room schoolhouse that was on the O.B. McKenzie property, located on McKenzie Branch, if anyone is interested. - Sharon McKenzie, Pleasant Hill, CA "Like charity and church services, school began in the home. Prior to 1840 education in Kentucky was on a do-it-yourself basis. There were no public schools and professional teachers were rare. Alarmed at the illiteracy in the state, a group of citizens met in 1830 and organized the Kentucky Education Association. Through its efforts and the work of other groups, the legislature in 1838 passed Kentucky's first public school law. Progress was slow and it was well into the 1850s before a workable system of public schools began to evolve. There is little recorded evidence of Johnson County's early efforts at education. However, the history of its formal education began with the election of School Commissioners in the 1840s but the first school building, as such, was not built until 1851, at Flat Gap. The second was built in 1855 at the mouth of School House Branch. This is not to say that education was neglected. However it was managed, by subscription schools, tutors, or parents teaching their own, most of the children of the early settlers were taught at least to read and write. The 1850 census revealed an almost 50% illiteracy rate in Johnson and other Big Sandy Counties. The 1870 census credits Johnson County with substantial improvement in its literacy rate. This must have been due in part to the efforts of Reverend William Jayne, a Baptist preacher and teacher who settled at Flat Gap and opened the Enterprise Academy in 1851. The unusual school turned out teachers who by the state of the art, were unusually well trained. Another outstanding private school, the Medina Seminary, was opened by Reverend John R. Long in 1870 at Oil Springs. In the early days the school authorities placed most of the responsibility for building and supervising the school on the community. They elected neighbors they knew and trusted as trustees. They felt free to use it for meetings and other purposes of interest to the people of the district. The people could truly say, "This is our school."

Sharon thanks so much for sharing that story. As you know I have McKENZIE's in my family and I am always looking for stories and information about them and related families. This proves that it is a good thing to post to the list stories we have about our families and stories about the area they came from. I have learned so much about the Johnson County, Kentucky area that I never knew before I joined this list. My grandfather was born in Flat Gap, Kentucky and this helps me understand the area where he was born. Mary in Ohio

Excite has chatrooms, easy to use, easy to set up. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Lemaster- Applegate To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 1:35 AM Subject: Let there be Peace Come on, gang! There is no need to be criticizing one another. If there is a problem, bring it to my attention by means of private e-mail. This list is not limited to just names & dates. It is also for learning more about the history and landmarks of Johnson County. It is for sharing stories about our Johnson County ancestors. Through these we can better understand how our ancestors lived, the struggles they faced, the challenges they met on a day to day basis. And along that road, we are getting to know each other better. What traits of our ancestors have we inherited? What likeness to them do we share? We learn these important and interesting tidbits through our bantering, i.e., height seems to run in the Lemaster bloodline. It also lets those that are not familiar with Johnson County learn more about the traditions, foods, superstitions, etc. that may not be common in their area. Nonproductive? I believe I have seen quite a bit of info swapping lately on the list. I have seen list members reaching out to help each other in their quest. I do agree that we could all try a little harder on keeping the subject line appropriate to the body of the message. But as I have said before, if you read something you do not like, or feel the topic of conversation has gone astray from Johnson County, either bring your complaint/concern to me, or delete it, dont debate it. And, for those interested, I am checking into chat forums. As soon as I find one that suits our needs, I will post details. In the meantime, if any of you know of a good chat forum that is user friendly and easy to set up, please let me know. Ann Lemaster-Applegate your Johnson County Listowner ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: annapplegate@maysvilleky.net Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html

Thank you Bill! (and Ann). The Floyd County list had a similar event several weeks ago. The disgruntled folk pushed the stories and memory telling off the list. (We moved the stories off to a list called Kentucky Memories.) But, you know, since then, the Floyd County list has grown silent. It still gets me how effective those people were at shutting everything down. I'd hate to see the same thing happen to this list. You can subscribe to the stories list at: KENTUCKY-MEMORIES-L-request@folklore.rootsweb.com (type SUBSCRIBE in the subject line and send) Mailing List address to send messages to: KENTUCKY-MEMORIES-L@folklore.rootsweb.com ...Karen

In a message dated 12/16/1999 10:34:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, annapplegate@maysvilleky.net writes: << This list is not limited to just names & dates. It is also for learning more about the history and landmarks of Johnson County. It is for sharing stories about our Johnson County ancestors. >>Thanks Ann, we needed that. I have always treasured this story that was passed on to me by an aunt who is now in her mid-eighties. Do any of you have this type of information that you can share with us? "Katy Estep was born in 1861 in Redbush, Johnson County, Kentucky. She married William Wallace McKenzie and helped rear their nine children to adulthood. She was responsible for the cleaning and the washing. The washing was done by hand with lye soap she made herself. She canned the food they ate from the garden they cared for. She would rise long before dawn to cook enough food to feed her family for the day. She would bake bread, fry chicken, slice ham, etc. Everything had to be on the table and ready to eat by dawn. When dawn came she went to the fields with her husband and children. It was custom to only cook once a day, place everything on the table and when it was time to eat it only had to be warmed a little and the family could return to the fields much faster that way. This custom is still carried on in some homes even though modern conveniences are installed in most of the homes. After her husband's death, she and the children continued running the farm. She died in 1935, at the age of 79 and was buried alongside her husband in the "McKenzie Cemetery", Patty Flats. The most vivid memory of my grandmother Estep was a trip made to see her in 1929. She had had a telephone installed. One with a crank on the side. She would crank and crank on that thing but could never get it to work. She would get so disgusted she would end up stepping out on the porch and yelling for who ever she wanted. The hills would echo and with help from neighbors the word was passed on to the person she wanted to speak with." Sharon in CA

Guilty! Sorry I forgot to change the subject line. It should have read Keeton instead of Johnson Co. Gang. I was too quick to hit my send button. Deanna Levito

I am a descendant of Nelson Keeton and Sarah Lewis. They had a daughter, Juliann that married Benjamin Hamilton. Any connections on your end? Mobita Keeton is not in my files but this line is new to me so there could be a possibility of a connection. Deanna Levito