It's Official! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!! Ann Lemaster-Applegate
Hooray, and our computers are working, too. So we can continue our genealogy research and fun on the net. Bud
Bill, Than YOU. You have been of much help to me and Im sure countless others. I feel so connected now that I have begun the search for my ancestors...and have met so many wonderful people. You and all of the others I have met and will meet in my journey have added much to my life. Happy New Year to all of my old and new friends and family. Nancy S
Nancy, You can get this info from the National Archives. At http://www.nara.gov First you need to request the forms, which you can do online. It takes a long time but is so worth it. Faith Faith ----- Original Message ----- From: <specialteach@dickson.net> To: <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Civil War Records
Names in this message: WELCH, Bigford,Butcher, Hurt, Wheeler, Lemaster, Darby, Blevins I have Clyde Welch born Jan 15, 1900 in Johnson Co. His father was Elijah Welch(son of James Welch and Elizabeth Collins) Who is the mother of Clyde? Elijah was married to Sarah Rowland in 1909 and Clyde is not her son. Am also looking for the family lines for the following Welch lines. These are the children of Elijah Welch. Arthur Welch m. Olive Bigford Mart Welch m. Easter Butcher Charlie Welch m. Marie Hurt Ralph Welch m. Lenchie Wheeler Mary Welch m. Raymond Lemaster Mae Welch m. Paul Darby Clyde Welch m. Julie Blevins All help greatly appreciated. Semper Fi. Mary in Mich Researching surnames: Hajduk, Welch, Litton, Collins, Merritts, Meier, Staples and Szela Proud member of the WOMEN MARINES ASSOCIATION, MOTOR CITY CHAPTER
I just thought that I would share this with everyone who has been so helpful to me in 1999 and I would like to say don't give up, your ancestors are out there somewhere and they left a trail for you to follow and some left mighty big shoes for you to fill. Some left fond memories that will never be forgot, while others left wounds that only time alone will heal. Whatever the case may be, we, your extended family, are always here to help one another and we wish you a very prosperous and Happy New Year. Bill Reed The reason we search: The Legacy Voices of a distant time Speak softly thru the years Carried on winds of ages past Whispering gently in our ears. Seeking to be remembered Rather than forgotten as though never here, Reaching out to their children's children... "Do they listen? Will they hear?" >From far off lands and distant seas With courage and fear interlaced, They sought a new future for their children, But unsure of the future they faced. They arrived at port as families, As well as lone woman or man. Even a child or infant would travel To the promise of that other land. Hazards of travel, whether land or sea Would claim both young and old. This new land would hold a price for some, But undaunted, forward they'd go. Far from what they once called home They embraced this new found land. Though their hearts recalled it, they'd still proudly Proclaim it : "I'm an American." Though many to America were penniless With nought but their Bible to hold, They knew therein lie a treasure: Joys and sorrows, recorded and told. Each name seems to say: "Don't forget me; please remember those things we endured." "We risked it all; life, home, love and family, so your future would be secured." by Rebecca Watson Walker
On the bottom of the page it usually tells who submitted the info.
Mary, here is the url for Maryland Vital Statistics:http://www.vitalrec.com/md.html You can upload a form to apply for a copy of Johns birth record. I hope this helps. Bill
Absolutely! I was just getting ready to unsubscribe from this list. You all have each other's e-mail address. Use them or the phone! I just downloaded 37 messages for nothing! ---------- : From: SassyMan46@aol.com : To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com : Subject: Re: Copyright "NOT" : Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 7:25 PM : : Can we quit all this bickering about copyright laws and get back to the : business of what this forum was intended for!!!! "GENEALOGY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : !!! : Bill : : : ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== : Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate : annapplegate@maysvilleky.net : Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: : http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html
Barbara wrote: I'm Barbara Green Justice and these files came from Family Search. Thank you very much Barbara. I keep forgetting that the LDS information is now online. I have that John was born in Maryland. I was hoping to find out where specifically in Maryland and where the information came from about him. Thank you very much for your input!
My husband is a computer technician. He assures me that everything is A-OK. He is recommending that people do leave their computers off from about 11:55-12:10 just in case there is a power fluctuation right at midnight. They are shutting down our entire company on Friday and turning it back on on Sunday as a precaution. My opinion is that all of the "hype" could lead to a disaster of its own. For example, we could cause a gas shortage, a "run" on the banks, food and grocery shortages, etc. by people overreacting. Of course, we also have all of those terrorists to be concerned wtih.... We have a few jugs of water, flashlights and batteries and some food items that could be easily heated on our grill or eaten at room temperature. We also have a little money in case there are problems with debit machines or check centers (as often happens during storms or even extremely windy days and power outages). We've stocked the same items that we did when we lived in "earthquake" terrritory and that we keep on hand in case of winter storms or power outages. Other than that, we plan on eating lots of snack foods and taking lots of pictures to document the turn of the century. I have been collecting quite a bit of information about the year 1900 to compare to today (population, annual wages, inventions, etc) if anyone is interested, I will gladly share... compiling was harder than I anticipated. Hope everyone has a safe and happy weekend! Candy Parent Tazewell County, VAGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~vatazewe Candy's Clan http://www.htonline.com/~candy candy@htonline.com -----Original Message----- From: Ann Lemaster- Applegate <annapplegate@maysvilleky.net> To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com <KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Off subject >Since tomorrow is New Year's Eve and I am sure alot of the subscribers on >this list have wondered the same thing, I think it is ok to post answers to >Shannon's question to the list. I am curious also as to others opinions on >the subject. > >Ann Lemaster-Applegate >Johnson CO. Listowner > > >==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== >Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: >annapplegate@maysvilleky.net >Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > >
I'm also a computer techie. I'm a systems programmer for mainframe computers (the big ones). I don't foresee any major catastrophes caused by computers on New Years. There will probably be numerous minor (and often humorous) glitches. Like bills might get printed with a due date in January 1900. In fact I've already experienced one minor glitch. About 6 months ago I received a new gasoline credit card with an expiration date of 08/00. When I inserted it into a gas pump the readout indicated it had expired. The register inside the station accepted it, and the pumps were updated soon afterwards. I don't know the exact figures but every major US corporation and utility has spent millions to eliminate Y2K problems in their systems. But lets say the electric company hadn't tested their systems and the generators shut down. I don't think those engineers are going to throw their arms into the air, say "Oh well", and go home. The power would be back on in a matter of minutes or hours. Y2K preparedness is the most common subject in my barbershop. Some are amazed that I (the computer guy) keep enough provisions for a 3 or 4 day blizzard every winter and have done nothing special for Y2K. I am totally disgusted with those that are promoting Y2K panic and making money off of it. Jeff Dixon
I think that the news media has thrown people into a near panic for no good reason and there are those that have made a fortune off of that fear. I have heard that they will even close the airport in Chicago. If anything happens it will be from people that want to "leave their mark" that night. I would be more worried about vandalism than anything. I think that the biggest thing that could happen is that some people may lose electricity for a few hours or in some remote places maybe even a day or two. We have have some pretty bad winters here in Ohio and I have a gas camp cook stove and a gas camp heater. I also have a gas grill. That is the extent of my preparation for Y2K, too. Just like any other winter. Marilee Ann Lemaster- Applegate wrote: > > Since tomorrow is New Year's Eve and I am sure alot of the subscribers on > this list have wondered the same thing, I think it is ok to post answers to > Shannon's question to the list. I am curious also as to others opinions on > the subject. > > Ann Lemaster-Applegate > Johnson CO. Listowner > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html
Since tomorrow is New Year's Eve and I am sure alot of the subscribers on this list have wondered the same thing, I think it is ok to post answers to Shannon's question to the list. I am curious also as to others opinions on the subject. Ann Lemaster-Applegate Johnson CO. Listowner
HI All!! I am very curious to know if I am the only person who thinks this Y2K thing is hype??? Please contact me by private e-mail to share opinions. shan146@webtv.net Shannon A Daniels Columbus Ohio
Can anyone tell me if they have information on John May married to Sarah Jane Phillips? I believe John was born ca 1760 and his daughter, Mary married John Hamilton s/o Benjamin Hamilton and ? Hurst?. John's son Dave is buried near the Pennington graveyard in Johnson County near the border with Morgan County. Dave's second wife is supposed to be a Mary Lemaster Hamilton. Any ideas would be appreciated!
This is a gentle nudge to get the focus back on Johnson CO. Ann Lemaster-Applegate Johnson County Listowner
Hello Douglas: For your consideration and comment: Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Tel. Service Co., held that the directory listings were merely "a collection of facts arranged in a commonplace, non original fashion," and that the listings themselves were not copyright able. "Without originality, time and effort do not factor into the copyright equation." Records that are held as public i.e. telephone directory's, voter registration, land, marriage and other documents distributed or held to inform the general public are not protected under copyright law. Protection under "Fruits of Labor" does extend and or protect original content contained within published works sold for profit or to earn reimbursement of expenses for those works. During litigation, the parties reached an understanding wherein both parties prevailed. Without hashing over words, the copyright laws protect original works for a period of 70 years. Recently changes were made allowing an additional 20 years of protection under special circumstances for a total of 90 years. Therefore for the purposes of not confusing the members of this list and others, Publications written before 1910 would be a fairly safe bet for inclusion to mail list or web pages. Additionally, an excerpt or citation from a published work for purposes of reference or comparison are not protected but rather expected. Wishing you a Happy New Year, Jim Hawes P.S. To those who are wondering, debate is an honest exchange of words that establish ones position and an argument to support same. In no way does it represent anger or disrespect. I support Douglas's belief's, his understanding of the issue and freedom to disagree. More often than not arguments such as these have no ending especially where the advent of new technology has blurred the letter of the law. These very issues are being wrestled with in Washington as the Internet has truly changed how information is disseminated. ............................................................. end ...................................................... Douglas Cartier wrote: > Jim, since I have earned an excellent living throuh the practice of law for > many years, I was giving you some free legal advice in my first post. If > you chose to ignore it that is entirely up to you. I have read other of your > posts and realize you are a man with many opinions. I always try to make > utterances in a language understood by the person to whom I speak, thus my > choice of words. All law, copyright or otherwise, should be taken very > seriously. The laws were made for a reason. Laws are not made because > legislators need something to do. Most printed and electronic materials > contain the warning that we may NOT reproduce the work in any form without > the explicit written permission of the author. Choosing to ignore this > warning is asking for trouble. And a good attorney could go to the archives > of this list and use your posts as evidence and his/her case against you > would be won. I retire once again now to the recesses of this list. Since I > get paid handsomely for arguing, I do not do it pro-bono. > Y2K to you, also. > DC > > >From: Jim Hawes <JimHawes@ix.netcom.com> > >Reply-To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com > >To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: Copyright "NOT" > >Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:17:04 -0800 > > > >Douglas your thoughts are abstract at best and speak poorly of your ability > >to understand and intrepid > >the law. If you take exception to what I have written then I suggest you > >take it up with the Superior > >Court in the Fifth District. I further state rather that suggest that there > >is case law to support what > >I have written. There are always jack authors who would like to elevate > >their line for line copying of > >public documents as protected material. If you care to continue this > >exchange for the sake of argument > >rather than enlightenment, I am not interested. To frequently persons will > >attempt to invoke an > >emotional response with catch words or phrases i.e. "desperately" or "find > >yourself in a mess" or an > >accusatory "you cannot". Nothing you wrote suggested any first hand > >knowledge of copyright law or how > >case law has further defined copyright laws. Most honest genealogical > >publications contain the > >following statement or something very similar: Kentucky Bluegrass Roots, > >aka' Kentucky Genealogical > >Society; "The purpose of Bluegrass ROOTS is to provide help for all > >genealogists, Therefore, other > >not-for-profit organizations with the same purpose are hereby authorized to > >reprint any material > >published in Bluegrass ROOTS, If appropriate, credit will be appreciated, > >but it is not required." This > >statement is more common than not and I challenge you to produce one > >instance where a suit has been > >filed against any person sharing genealogical related information from a > >printed or electronic > >publication. > > > >Happy New Year, > >Jim Hawes > > > >Douglas Cartier wrote: > > > > > Jim you desperately need to consult with a copyright attorney before you > >get > > > yourself into a mess. You cannot interpret the laws to suit yourself. > >They > > > say what they say. Material from public records that are a part of a > > > genealogical work are indeed part of the copyright. And if you think > >that > > > any coyrighted material published in a publication then becomes the > >property > > > of the purchasers of the publication, you are way off. Way, way off. > >If > > > this were the case, there would be no need for copyrights to start with. > > > Some people are a law unto themselves; I certainly hope that everyone on > > > this list will be careful rather than sorry. > > > DC > > > > > > >From: Jim Hawes <JimHawes@ix.netcom.com> > > > >Reply-To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: KYJOHNSO-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Copyright "NOT" > > > >Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:32:27 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > >There is some question as to rather an electronic reproduction and > > > >written/printed document are the same. > > > > > > > >There is no law wherein you cannot share with others of common interest > > > >material wherein: a: The amount of material shared does not degrade the > > > >marketability of the copyrighted text in its entirety. b: The material > > > >is not generally available to the public. c: The material shared is not > > > >for profit. d: A copyright is for original material and not that which > > > >is copied from public records! > > > > > > > >(Conclusion) > > > >This has been challenged many times in the courts where the court has > > > >found that a book/text can be broken down into sections. The original > > > >conclusions or comments of the author are protected by copyright but > >not > > > >the public records contained within the same book/text. These remain > > > >public documents and can be shared, posted reprinted to your hearts > > > >content. A good example is the New England Dictionary published in > > > >1829. A person whom I will not name found the book, typed the > > > >information for electronic publication and called it copyrighted! This > > > >is just not how the copyright laws work nor is it how they were > >intended > > > >to work. A genealogical study is a research project not an attempt to > > > >plagiarize original works. When information is taken from more than > >two > > > >sources, IT'S RESEARCH. Articles written and published monthly, > > > >quarterly etc. in genealogical publications is copyrighted. You may > > > >extract portions, insert your own comment and it is not copyrighted. > > > >Again, an article that quotes original material is only protected for > > > >that portion of original content. The preoccupation with copyright law > > > >by persons who operate these mail list's is totally beyond me. I > > > >question rather any genealogical publication produced for the > > > >distribution of it's members is copyrighted at all! I arrive at this > > > >for the following reason. Members pay a monthly or annual membership > > > >fee. The material is produced for its members as a result of their > > > >membership. This means that any member can then copy and freely > > > >distribute information generated as a result of their membership. It > > > >short, the material belongs as much to any member as the group as a > > > >whole. If a member sells an original publication, then he has sold the > > > >rights to this material to the person that takes possession. > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > >Jim Hawes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > > >Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the > > > >listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > > > >annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > > > >Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > > > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > > > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to the > >listowner, Ann Lemaster-Applegate > > > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > > > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > > > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > > > > > >==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > >Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: > >annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > >Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== KYJOHNSO Mailing List ==== > Comments or suggestions pertaining to this list may be sent to: > annapplegate@maysvilleky.net > Visit the Johnson County Historical Society homepage: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjchs/johnson.html
Nope, no problems with the list. Not really sure what you meant by your last posting. Ann